Streetwalker Reports

What's with all the ladies demanding a down payment before an appointment? The majority of us know this is a no no and usually leads to a disappointment. Also what's up with the 300 benchmark that providers are wanting. The regular mongers know this is unacceptable yet I have had multiple failures recently due to these issues. We as consumers must control these conditions, the way we do that is not allowing the little head to control the big head. Say NO to over priced, sweaty street meat and NO to mandatory deposits.

[QUOTE=Crush1238;5578816]What's with all the ladies demanding a down payment before an appointment? The majority of us know this is a no no and usually leads to a disappointment. Also what's up with the 300 benchmark that providers are wanting. The regular mongers know this is unacceptable yet I have had multiple failures recently due to these issues. We as consumers must control these conditions, the way we do that is not allowing the little head to control the big head. Say NO to over priced, sweaty street meat and NO to mandatory deposits.[/QUOTE]Down payment / deposit pretty much is just a scam.

Overpriced is pretty much a scam.

Outcall 9 times out of 10 is a scam.

The list goes on.

I would stay leery of streetwalkers with a room.

In fact, I would steer clear of the street crew. Although in other posts, I mentioned one of my faves Shai that still is around now and then.

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;5579255]Outcall 9 times out of 10 is a scam.

The list goes on.[/QUOTE]I disagree, I been contacting providers off LC for their out rates and it ranges from $. 2- 80 on average; That's not bad considering you have SW's taxing $$.

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;5579266]I would stay leery of streetwalkers with a room.

In fact, I would steer clear of the street crew. Although in other posts, I mentioned one of my faves Shai that still is around now and then.[/QUOTE]I have noticed the girls beefed up their security, Not sure if this is due to some internal issues among pimps or girls getting abused etc. Also when I first moved to Vegas many of the on-street providers had rooms, That's how they would approach tourists matter fact many of those Boulder SW's have rooms at the Budget in; Now whether they're willing to host is another matter.

I checked out the girls at Tropicana & Procyon and there were 3 BSW and 2 WSW they were out in full force tonight.

Ended up picking up a BSW goes by 'Starr' she has a overall slim physique, We agreed. 5 for head sadly I didn't emphasize on the BBBJ and she wouldn't do it without protection.

So we got rubbers and she went at it, The head was okay but there were a few things that were off-putting.

When she was getting the rubbers she left my car door wide open, Like really wide I had to accelerate and brake to get it shut I thought for sure it was a setup.

On the way to the spot I noticed she tried to record my face, I had a double mask on and covered it as well as called her out on it; She tried to play it off.

We get to the spot and agree on. 5 I didn't have change so give her. 6 and the upsell began; She offered FS for 20 more I mean how could I turn it down?

Inside the car she turns around and asks for doggy, I tell her its uncomfortable for me I'm 6'4 and drive a sedan; She then asks for 20 more to go outside at which point I lied.

And told her I only had 10 for gas; She wanted it too so I called her out on it and that was the end of that.

Overall the BJ was average, I've had better and I got semi-scammed in the sense that she had all these restrictions (no pussy rubbing, no doggy outside the car in a secluded area etc.).

Now that I know what she's about I will keep the # for emergency purposes but definitely won't be my regular. Only upside is that she will do outcall for. 5 BJ or 80 FS but I don't know how comfortable I feel.

Having her over my place. She also seems super paranoid and told me she's been caught before.

[QUOTE=IceCreamLoad;5582526]I checked out the girls at Tropicana & Procyon and there were 3 BSW and 2 WSW they were out in full force tonight.

Ended up picking up a BSW goes by 'Starr' she has a overall slim physique, We agreed. 5 for head sadly I didn't emphasize on the BBBJ and she wouldn't do it without protection.

So we got rubbers and she went at it, The head was okay but there were a few things that were off-putting.

When she was getting the rubbers she left my car door wide open, Like really wide I had to accelerate and brake to get it shut I thought for sure it was a setup.

On the way to the spot I noticed she tried to record my face, I had a double mask on and covered it as well as called her out on it; She tried to play it off.

We get to the spot and agree on. 5 I didn't have change so give her. 6 and the upsell began; She offered FS for 20 more I mean how could I turn it down?

Inside the car she turns around and asks for doggy, I tell her its uncomfortable for me I'm 6'4 and drive a sedan; She then asks for 20 more to go outside at which point I lied..[/QUOTE]You have to negotiate what you want before hand and don't accept anything less. You want a BBBJ? She doesn't do it? Move on. There are plenty of others out there my guy. And if she got out my car and left the door wide open, I'm flying out of there. Be safe!

Okay fellas. Which one of you were parked in a burgundy car next to the bridge on Sahara bouncing a chick on your lap at about 5 am?

LOL.

I was so tempted to take a picture, but decided against it. LOL.

[QUOTE=IceCreamLoad;5579492]I disagree, I been contacting providers off LC for their out rates and it ranges from $. 2- 80 on average; That's not bad considering you have SW's taxing $$.

I have noticed the girls beefed up their security, Not sure if this is due to some internal issues among pimps or girls getting abused etc. Also when I first moved to Vegas many of the on-street providers had rooms, That's how they would approach tourists matter fact many of those Boulder SW's have rooms at the Budget in; Now whether they're willing to host is another matter.[/QUOTE]Well there are different versions of scam and granted, I have had some success at a couple of outcalls. I do not like the idea of anyone coming to my home. I don't have a reason to book a hotel, but I would be hesitant to even do that. A lot of these chicks plot to get into your place, steal your shit or look for another way to take advantage, so if you like outcalls, that is all on you.

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;5584806]Well there are different versions of scam and granted, I have had some success at a couple of outcalls. I do not like the idea of anyone coming to my home. I don't have a reason to book a hotel, but I would be hesitant to even do that. A lot of these chicks plot to get into your place, steal your shit or look for another way to take advantage, so if you like outcalls, that is all on you.[/QUOTE]As with any situation in this business, the key is being smart and safe. If you are stupid enough to have valuables out where the provider has access, that's your fault. I'm the opposite of you. I do outcalls and get a room but only on the weekdays when they are dirt cheap. Wanted to get a room tonight but rates are insane, WWW is $200 tonight! I've probably had 75 outcalls in the 5 years I've lived here, have had some bad experiences but they were the normal bad experiences that we all have (poor service, upsells, etc.), nothing dangerous and nobody stole anything. There are a few things I do to prevent that and any possible future issues. I never let them out of my sight, except when they are in the bathroom, nothing in there to steal. I never use the bathroom unless she is also, my bathrooms are adjacent so I can hear when she's done and never close the door of the bathroom I'm in. I ask them how they are traveling to my house and let them know that I have several cameras surrounding my property. Before she arrives, my wallet and keys are in a secure location, all I have on me is her donation. Lastly I'll start a convo and I somehow get to the fact that I have multiple firearms in my home. I've actually had far more bad experiences with incalls, even at upscale hotels. Oh and service wise, outcalls have been 200x better, especially if she drinks.

[QUOTE=Dac007;5592594]As with any situation in this business, the key is being smart and safe. If you are stupid enough to have valuables out where the provider has access, that's your fault. I'm the opposite of you. I do outcalls and get a room but only on the weekdays when they are dirt cheap. Wanted to get a room tonight but rates are insane, WWW is $200 tonight! I've probably had 75 outcalls in the 5 years I've lived here, have had some bad experiences but they were the normal bad experiences that we all have (poor service, upsells, etc.), nothing dangerous and nobody stole anything. There are a few things I do to prevent that and any possible future issues. I never let them out of my sight, except when they are in the bathroom, nothing in there to steal. I never use the bathroom unless she is also, my bathrooms are adjacent so I can hear when she's done and never close the door of the bathroom I'm in. I ask them how they are traveling to my house and let them know that I have several cameras surrounding my property. Before she arrives, my wallet and keys are in a secure location, all I have on me is her donation. Lastly I'll start a convo and I somehow get to the fact that I have multiple firearms in my home. I've actually had far more bad experiences with incalls, even at upscale hotels. Oh and service wise, outcalls have been 200x better, especially if she drinks.[/QUOTE]The point for me is that I don't even want to give the risk it, because I don't feel that it is worth it. Honestly, I'm super selective on even going to incalls these days. Typically, car dates work best for me since there aren't really many providers out there that I would want to spend longer than 30 minute with. LOL.

[QUOTE=ShaolinSword;5592910]The point for me is that I don't even want to give the risk it, because I don't feel that it is worth it. Honestly, I'm super selective on even going to incalls these days. Typically, car dates work best for me since there aren't really many providers out there that I would want to spend longer than 30 minute with. LOL.[/QUOTE]First there are 3 options. 1. Incall 2. Outcall 3. Cardate.

Out of the 3 I prefer Cardate on the first meet cause this eliminates majority of the risk. You control the situation, meaning hide your valuables and only have your donation that you agreed upon on you. Second is you can go to where your comfortable doing the date at. Third is it's just you and her and don't have to worry about a knock on the door or some bs excuse. Lastly don't ever give her the full donation especially if it's a first meet. Always offer to either pay at the end which works sometimes, or give her half of the donation and give her the rest after the date. Last would be collateral, if she won't do the date without donation either cut her loose or tell her that's fine but I get to hold your cell phone or purse. They won't dash on you if you have either of those, can't do business without a phone.

For incall it's very risky even in good neighborhoods because you don't know what to expect or who all is in the house or apartment or who is watching you from outside even. I usually only do incalls after I've already met the girl through a cardate already. Yes I've been had once before doing an incall and this is why I'm extra cautious when doing so. It provides the most risk out of the 3.

Outcalls are fine and second safest option. Everything applies to what I said for a cardate except the girl will now know where your room is so if anything bad happens you might want to check out ASAP. Also never do outcalls to your home always get a room. Girls can scope out your house once inside and eventually set you up to be robbed. Again just my opinion on the matter.

If I were a newbie I would find one or 2 regulars that I was comfortable with instead of rolling the dice on randoms cause it's always going to be a hit or miss with most of them. I'm personally tired of seeing randoms.

[QUOTE=Jokker;5593123]First there are 3 options. 1. Incall 2. Outcall 3. Cardate.

Out of the 3 I prefer Cardate on the first meet cause this eliminates majority of the risk. You control the situation, meaning hide your valuables and only have your donation that you agreed upon on you. Second is you can go to where your comfortable doing the date at. Third is it's just you and her and don't have to worry about a knock on the door or some bs excuse. Lastly don't ever give her the full donation especially if it's a first meet. Always offer to either pay at the end which works sometimes, or give her half of the donation and give her the rest after the date. Last would be collateral, if she won't do the date without donation either cut her loose or tell her that's fine but I get to hold your cell phone or purse. They won't dash on you if you have either of those, can't do business without a phone.

For incall it's very risky even in good neighborhoods because you don't know what to expect or who all is in the house or apartment or who is watching you from outside even. I usually only do incalls after I've already met the girl through a cardate already. Yes I've been had once before doing an incall and this is why I'm extra cautious when doing so. It provides the most risk out of the 3.

Outcalls are fine and second safest option. Everything applies to what I said for a cardate except the girl will now know where your room is so if anything bad happens you might want to check out ASAP. Also never do outcalls to your home always get a room. Girls can scope out your house once inside and eventually set you up to be robbed. Again just my opinion on the matter.




If I were a newbie I would find one or 2 regulars that I was comfortable with instead of rolling the dice on randoms cause it's always going to be a hit or miss with most of them. I'm personally tired of seeing randoms.[/QUOTE]I couldn't have said it better. That is my take on things as well. Just because people have security cameras and pistols in their home, doesn't really make things the wisest decision, but that is just my strong opinion. It doesn't change the fact that things could potentially get messy real quick. I've had some "Situations" during my experiences. It just so happens that 99% of them have been in Las Vegas.

[QUOTE=MidkniteMoon;5583761]You have to negotiate what you want before hand and don't accept anything less. You want a BBBJ? She doesn't do it? Move on. There are plenty of others out there my guy. And if she got out my car and left the door wide open, I'm flying out of there. Be safe![/QUOTE]You aiming towards a BBJ with a double mask on? Seems if your double masking you should be worrying more about the spread then getting a BBJ.

[QUOTE=Jokker;5593123]First there are 3 options. 1. Incall 2. Outcall 3. Cardate.

Out of the 3 I prefer Cardate on the first meet cause this eliminates majority of the risk. You control the situation, meaning hide your valuables and only have your donation that you agreed upon on you. Second is you can go to where your comfortable doing the date at. Third is it's just you and her and don't have to worry about a knock on the door or some bs excuse. Lastly don't ever give her the full donation especially if it's a first meet. Always offer to either pay at the end which works sometimes, or give her half of the donation and give her the rest after the date. Last would be collateral, if she won't do the date without donation either cut her loose or tell her that's fine but I get to hold your cell phone or purse. They won't dash on you if you have either of those, can't do business without a phone.

For incall it's very risky even in good neighborhoods because you don't know what to expect or who all is in the house or apartment or who is watching you from outside even. I usually only do incalls after I've already met the girl through a cardate already. Yes I've been had once before doing an incall and this is why I'm extra cautious when doing so. It provides the most risk out of the 3.

Outcalls are fine and second safest option. Everything applies to what I said for a cardate except the girl will now know where your room is so if anything bad happens you might want to check out ASAP. Also never do outcalls to your home always get a room. Girls can scope out your house once inside and eventually set you up to be robbed. Again just my opinion on the matter.

If I were a newbie I would find one or 2 regulars that I was comfortable with instead of rolling the dice on randoms cause it's always going to be a hit or miss with most of them. I'm personally tired of seeing randoms.[/QUOTE]Interesting. For me cardates are the worst option. First I'm tall and it's extremely uncomfortable for me, I'm not a BJ only guy so it's hard. Second while you may control the situation, you can't be in a more vulnerable position than in a car with your pants down, especially if you decide to use the back seat. You can be set up that way too, you are in a secluded spot so if anybody rolls up, you are screwed, somebody could also be watching you and follow you. I like to be relaxed, not having to keep an eye out constantly for anyone pulling up. And if LE pulls up, you are really screwed. Also cardate service is always the least satisfying of the three options.

I've done one cardate, it was a disaster mostly for the first reason I mentioned, she wanted to get out and do it next to the car but I declined so I tried in the car but it didn't work. I was also extremely nervous for the other reasons. I was done after that.

I don't worry too much about outcalls or being robbed too much, I think it's extremely rare, most of them don't want to screw up their business, some may provide horrible service or rob you in the sense of not providing what was agreed upon but flat out robbing you for your money or valuables is rare because they know there's a good chance you will be able to find them and turn the tables on them. And one other thing, I never do an outcall and rarely will do an incall unless she is well reviewed or I have seen her before. Of all of the options, I've always had by far the best service on an outcall. As far as safety, I probably wouldn't do outcalls if I didn't have a firearm and security cameras. I live on a cul de sac so there is one way in and as soon a someone turns onto my street my cam notifies me, I'll take my chances if I can see them before they get near my home. By the time they are in my driveway, I can be locked and loaded with my phone ready to call 911 if need be. I've had people pull up in front of my house before late at night, probably nothing but I've hit the alarm on my cam and they took off immediately plus my home is lit up like the strip with several floodlights surrounding the front of my property that are always on and a few more that are motion detecting lights.

I think he most important reason why I've had only a handful of bad experiences is I trust my instincts. If I'm seeing someone from an ad, I won't see her if communication is only via text, if I talk to he and she's not very personable or I get a bad vibe I don't see her. Same applies for the streets, if she's too quiet, extremely cautious or the vibe is wrong, I'm declining. I've passed up some really hot ones for those reasons.

You have a good point as it isn't the most comfortable. I just make sure I always choose the spot and if the area has no spots, then I pull over and have her hit the road. Firearm and security is great for if they happen to come back to rob you, but if you have a hooker in your house and you got to use extreme measures. I am not sure who comes out the winner in that situation. I've had a few trustworthy providers at my home, although I have not seen them and they may have left the business. Or Vegas.

While we are on the subject, I can share a few stories just for shits and giggles.

Short story 1. I remember making a rookie mistake way back and picked up this little blond at a Dotty's. She suggested we pull around the back and I had a suspicion instantly. As we pulled around, I was thinking I would find my own spot. While we were deciding, she decided to ask for the donation. Once she had it in hand, she flung the door open and I grabbed her by the arm. By then, I guess her "pimp" came around and yelled something, then fired some bullets in the air. The girl took off running and I bolted out of there as fast as I could. I called the police and they actually showed up and swarmed the place. I drove by and saw them searching, but no idea what happened in the end. This was one of those times many hobbyists have where the little head tells the big head what to do. Lesson learned.

Short story 2. Another time I met with a girl at her incall. A few minutes after being there, she told me to get comfortable, face down on the bed. That rang a bell with me, but I had already given her the donation. I immediately said that I didn't like the vibe and asked for it back. When I did, another girl jumped out of the fucking T. V cabinet trying to film with her phone and yelling ghetto shit at me. Making threats. I restrained myself from beating them both into a pulp and left.

Short story 3. I had a girl come to my place and she was not the chick in the photos. She was decent enough and seemed kind, so we got comfortable. She began giving me a slap dash rub down and then tried to upsell me. I told her that I just gave her quite a donation. She said that it was simply for her showing up. So, careful not to lose my cool. I told her to get the fuck out of my house. I left her a review shortly after and this ***** had the nerve to text me, saying that she knew it was me who left her the review. Started making threats about sending her people to my house unless I took down the review. LOL. Seemed like some high school shit to me, so I told her she didn't have any friends and if she did, please do send them over.

I got a few other stories, but I'll save them for another time. These were all instances when I had first moved to Las Vegas after being spoiled to the good service of Houston for many years. Houston was also one place where cardates weren't really a thing.