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[QUOTE=LetzGetItDr;4746205]Does anyone else find it oddly unnerving when you see a provider out in public. Clear as day working another job? It's like seeing your fantasy diminish sometimes.[/QUOTE]I ran into Happy in the Don Quixote parking area a couple years ago. We hugged and chatted for a bit.
[QUOTE=LetzGetItDr;4746205]Does anyone else find it oddly unnerving when you see a provider out in public. Clear as day working another job? It's like seeing your fantasy diminish sometimes.[/QUOTE]I only find it awkward if I'm with a SO. But they being pros know how to handle the situation.
Since there's really no reviews and we've had to resort to playing the game of "who was the best provider-AMP girl-whatever", like sportsball shows have resorted to replaying old games, I'm interested in what the scene in Honolulu is going to look like post-virus.
Let's take a look at the scene a month before we were all told to stay at home (seems like years ago now). Strip clubs were on the decline. Femme Nu was a dead club walking. Club 939, Rock Za, better talent than Femme Nu, but those place are pulling nowhere near the kind of crowds they used to, especially on the weekdays (let's take Club Rose into consideration for 939, since that was the club at that location back in the day).
The HPD and prosecutor's office cast a long shadow over the AMPs. They were all worried about getting busted. Some of the AMPs had been busted but remained open, like Happiness, so their top earners had jumped ship to other parlors that hadn't been raided.
Indies were far and few between. But that's always been the case here. As for the working girls in Waikiki, well, we all know they're pimped and the HPD really didn't seem to care about that.
So let's say things start easing up and things go back to normal. Granted, it's not going to be like flipping a light switch, but I think in about a year to year-and-a-half (the time frame most people give with regards to the development and deployment of a vaccine) I think we'll find ourselves in a very different reality.
In a word, I think it'll be bleak.
1) The strip clubs will be in shambles.
Femme Nu was scheduled to close in October, but Yuni might very well close it earlier. Even if she can open the club, how many people can she have in the club at a time until a vaccine is ready? We're also looking at a timeframe of six months until October, so it very well may be more financially sound just to close.
939 and Rock Za — Again, how many customers will these places be allowed to have in them at a time? How much contact will be allowed between customers and the dancers? If we have to maintain six feet between customer and dancer, what's the point of going to a bar? I don't know if Yvonne owns the land under Rock Za or if Stuart owns the land under 939, but they might just throw in the towel and sell to a developer like Yuni — or the landowner might just throw in the towel, cut their losses because of the whole real estate market taking a dump and they have tenants that can't pay and sell. (To be fair, if Stuart does own the land under 939, he might very well keep it open because the girls there keep on telling me he likes to fuck the white girls that work for him.).
The smaller clubs, Hot Ash, Blossom — They're really just pickup spots for takeout. They're never really that busy. Probably not that viable to keep them open.
2) Hey, remember restaurants? And massage parlors?
The virus did what the HPD and Kaneshiro's / Nadamoto's corrupt prosecutors couldn't: effectively shut down the massage parlors. The girls have enough to worry about and I'm sure they don't want to have to worry about coronavirus on top of that.
Those mamasans are old and they don't want to get anything, and let's be honest — a lot of those girls in those AMPs were probably pushing 50 if not over 50, so yeah, again, they're worried about getting the virus.
Same with the guys: maybe you're fine with going BBFSCIP with your favorite at Happiness, but coronavirus is making you stop to think.
Most of the girls have probably gone back to China or Korea where the virus is further along bring contained than it here, or because they just won't have to deal with some monger who may very well be throwing off the virus slobbering all over them and fucking them. If they have a green card, they probably have their sugar daddies who are keeping them fed and maybe housed. You know and I know this is true.
Will they come back to work? I suspect the mamasans, if they could, have split back to Korea or China like the girls. Especially if they were worried about an indictment to begin with.
So when things open up, there may not be the mamasans, who have the pipelines to bring in the girls from Asia. The AMP scene may be dead or extremely constricted.
There's also the issue of whether the travel restrictions will stay in place, which brings us to the next point.
3) Indies? Nope.
So Hawaii has always been pretty indie-unfriendly. The girls I've met like visiting here, but they hate working here. They say the guys are too cheap and everything's too expensive. Hey, it practically sounds like they're locals!
Slap on a two-week travel quarantine, the utter lack of tourist traffic and now you have a situation where it's untenable to work here as a working girl.
I suspect there's going to be a permanent crackdown on travel. By that I mean you'll have to prove you're healthy and don't have any symptoms if you get on a plane. And even if there's a vaccine, there's probably going to be some kind of mandated health certificate to prove you've had your shot or recovered — and you'd still probably have to go through some kind of health screening regardless. Think I'm crazy? All you'd have to do is make an addition to the REAL I'd laws and existing airport policies.
That's not even taking into consideration that people will not be that crazy about being in a confined space for hours at a time with strangers, breathing recycled air in a sealed tube any time soon.
All this means no one will be in any hurry to take a vacation to Hawaii, and most people won't even be thinking about a vacation for a while because they'll either be looking for work, coming to terms with a job that's unlike anything they've done before or just grateful to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth. No tourism means no economic recovery here for years.
So, harsher travel restrictions, no tourists and locals with no money = no indies.
I think what we'll see is a reshuffling of the adult scene. There's been reports of dancers showing up at gaming rooms to hustle for work, so in the vacuum of strip clubs, the gaming rooms may be turning into the defacto strip clubs. And if anything goes in the clubs, those dancers are going to have to be willing to do more than a lap dance, because you know the girl hustling next to her is going to be willing to do more than a lap dance.
In the absence of AMPs, the few indie girls that have been working outside the AMP system might be our only viable choice. It'll be a long time before any working girl from the mainland tours here because once things get back under control, it'll be easier to just jump in your car and do a couple days in another city a few hundred miles away.
And even the girls who were working in AMPs do go back to work, there'll either be very few or no AMPs to work out of, so they could very well be going indie.
With fewer people coming into the islands, it'll be easier for ICE to keep an eye on girls they suspect who are working in AMPs. Expect the whatever AMPs that open or remain open to be heavily surveilled and never staying open for very long. I'd say you'd see underground brothels open up, but isn't that what massage parlors are to begin with?
I suspect we all may have to fly to LA or Vegas to get our fix.
Lucky we live Hawaii, eh?
[QUOTE=DangerBoy;4751023]Since there's really no reviews and we've had to resort to playing the game of "who was the best provider-AMP girl-whatever", like sportsball shows have resorted to replaying old games, I'm interested in what the scene in Honolulu is going to look like post-virus.
Let's take a look at the scene a month before we were all told to stay at home (seems like years ago now). Strip clubs were on the decline. Femme Nu was a dead club walking. Club 939, Rock Za, better talent than Femme Nu, but those place are pulling nowhere near the kind of crowds they used to, especially on the weekdays (let's take Club Rose into consideration for 939, since that was the club at that location back in the day).
The HPD and prosecutor's office cast a long shadow over the AMPs. They were all worried about getting busted. Some of the AMPs had been busted but remained open, like Happiness, so their top earners had jumped ship to other parlors that hadn't been raided.
Indies were far and few between. But that's always been the case here. As for the working girls in Waikiki, well, we all know they're pimped and the HPD really didn't seem to care about that.
So let's say things start easing up and things go back to normal. Granted, it's not going to be like flipping a light switch, but I think in about a year to year-and-a-half (the time frame most people give with regards to the development and deployment of a vaccine) I think we'll find ourselves in a very different reality.
In a word, I think it'll be bleak.
1) The strip clubs will be in shambles.
Femme Nu was scheduled to close in October, but Yuni might very well close it earlier. Even if she can open the club, how many people can she have in the club at a time until a vaccine is ready? We're also looking at a timeframe of six months until October, so it very well may be more financially sound just to close.
939 and Rock Za Again, how many customers will these places be allowed to have in them at a time? How much contact will be allowed between customers and the dancers? If we have to maintain six feet between customer and dancer, what's the point of going to a bar? I don't know if Yvonne owns the land under Rock Za or if Stuart owns the land under 939, but they might just throw in the towel and sell to a developer like Yuni or the landowner might just throw in the towel, cut their losses because of the whole real estate market taking a dump and they have tenants that can't pay and sell. (To be fair, if Stuart does own the land under 939, he might very well keep it open because the girls there keep on telling me he likes to fuck the white girls that work for him.).
The smaller clubs, Hot Ash, Blossom They're really just pickup spots for takeout. They're never really that busy. Probably not that viable to keep them open.
2) Hey, remember restaurants? And massage parlors?
The virus did what the HPD and Kaneshiro's / Nadamoto's corrupt prosecutors couldn't: effectively shut down the massage parlors. The girls have enough to worry about and I'm sure they don't want to have to worry about coronavirus on top of that.
Those mamasans are old and they don't want to get anything, and let's be honest a lot of those girls in those AMPs were probably pushing 50 if not over 50, so yeah, again, they're worried about getting the virus.
Same with the guys: maybe you're fine with going BBFSCIP with your favorite at Happiness, but coronavirus is making you stop to think.
Most of the girls have probably gone back to China or Korea where the virus is further along bring contained than it here, or because they just won't have to deal with some monger who may very well be throwing off the virus slobbering all over them and fucking them. If they have a green card, they probably have their sugar daddies who are keeping them fed and maybe housed. You know and I know this is true.
Will they come back to work? I suspect the mamasans, if they could, have split back to Korea or China like the girls. Especially if they were worried about an indictment to begin with.
So when things open up, there may not be the mamasans, who have the pipelines to bring in the girls from Asia. The AMP scene may be dead or extremely constricted.
There's also the issue of whether the travel restrictions will stay in place, which brings us to the next point.
3) Indies? Nope.
So Hawaii has always been pretty indie-unfriendly. The girls I've met like visiting here, but they hate working here. They say the guys are too cheap and everything's too expensive. Hey, it practically sounds like they're locals!
Slap on a two-week travel quarantine, the utter lack of tourist traffic and now you have a situation where it's untenable to work here as a working girl.
I suspect there's going to be a permanent crackdown on travel. By that I mean you'll have to prove you're healthy and don't have any symptoms if you get on a plane. And even if there's a vaccine, there's probably going to be some kind of mandated health certificate to prove you've had your shot or recovered and you'd still probably have to go through some kind of health screening regardless. Think I'm crazy? All you'd have to do is make an addition to the REAL I'd laws and existing airport policies.
That's not even taking into consideration that people will not be that crazy about being in a confined space for hours at a time with strangers, breathing recycled air in a sealed tube any time soon.
All this means no one will be in any hurry to take a vacation to Hawaii, and most people won't even be thinking about a vacation for a while because they'll either be looking for work, coming to terms with a job that's unlike anything they've done before or just grateful to be hanging on by the skin of their teeth. No tourism means no economic recovery here for years.
So, harsher travel restrictions, no tourists and locals with no money = no indies.
I think what we'll see is a reshuffling of the adult scene. There's been reports of dancers showing up at gaming rooms to hustle for work, so in the vacuum of strip clubs, the gaming rooms may be turning into the defacto strip clubs. And if anything goes in the clubs, those dancers are going to have to be willing to do more than a lap dance, because you know the girl hustling next to her is going to be willing to do more than a lap dance.
In the absence of AMPs, the few indie girls that have been working outside the AMP system might be our only viable choice. It'll be a long time before any working girl from the mainland tours here because once things get back under control, it'll be easier to just jump in your car and do a couple days in another city a few hundred miles away.
And even the girls who were working in AMPs do go back to work, there'll either be very few or no AMPs to work out of, so they could very well be going indie.
With fewer people coming into the islands, it'll be easier for ICE to keep an eye on girls they suspect who are working in AMPs. Expect the whatever AMPs that open or remain open to be heavily surveilled and never staying open for very long. I'd say you'd see underground brothels open up, but isn't that what massage parlors are to begin with?
I suspect we all may have to fly to LA or Vegas to get our fix.
Lucky we live Hawaii, eh?[/QUOTE]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.
Oldest profession ever will thrive once again guarantees. Fuck my first. Pro here decades ago seen a lot of changes fucked hundreds Even had one young midwest cowgirl was unforgettable body and BBBJ and total experience, just saying going have good ones again you can bet on it.
Pros never die just like the monster flying ca ca roach pretending to be politicians and dive bombing all year long, LOL.
You are correct, going have some flat out broke just like last recession time, coming here to suck dick out of necessity. If you got the cash, pussies will be had.
[QUOTE=ReallyOldGuy;4751399]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ReallyOldGuy;4751399]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.[/QUOTE]There were a little turmoil in honolulu AMPs while early virus outbreak.
Mamas wanted to take ANY dicks while girls were trying to be picky. Girls did not want young tourists from mainland cause they could hear news that many young ones ridicule at virus calling boomer remover. Some said she could never think a New yorker who dare to travel in March is responsible and sane one. Girls did not want coughing guys. A popular Japanese spots, owner forced girls to fuck any yen. While girls hesitated Japanese.
Just saying.
[QUOTE=ReallyOldGuy;4751399]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.[/QUOTE]Unless they are downtown druggies, they will not do bb service as happiness or kison do. Honestly I think kison with old super professional bb team may be an old story soon.
Local younger girls with more natural looks (they don't smile when they hear others' death cause no weird facial lifting) and cleaner service, I would love them. Bless to me and some, but not option for some.
[QUOTE=ReallyOldGuy;4751399]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.[/QUOTE]I think you ignore east asian economy too much.
I bet average kim and watanabe in south korea and japan have better quality of life than average americans with shitty insurance and high tax.
Most Chinese pros save A LOT. They most own buildings in China city.
In american big cities, asian amp girls are jack pots for host club or male strip clubs. They easily blow up 10k a night to blow up stress from their job. No one for amp to struggle like local american wives.
Most AMP asian women are not prostitutes in bangladeshi. They here to buy more rolex and cartier.
[QUOTE=AlohaSoul;4752040]I think you ignore east asian economy too much.
I bet average kim and watanabe in south korea and japan have better quality of life than average americans with shitty insurance and high tax.
Most Chinese pros save A LOT. They most own buildings in China city.
In american big cities, asian amp girls are jack pots for host club or male strip clubs. They easily blow up 10k a night to blow up stress from their job. No one for amp to struggle like local american wives.
Most AMP Asian women are not prostitutes in Bangladeshi. They here to buy more Rolex and Cartier[/QUOTE]Yes these Chinese girls have lots of money the few I know own multiple houses in the mainland and I went with them shopping here at high end stores they have lots of cash they make at least a grand a day when things was good about 30 gs a month they have lots saved up so this pandemic ain't hurting them much.
[QUOTE=LickYourClit;4752144]Yes these Chinese girls have lots of money the few I know own multiple houses in the mainland and I went with them shopping here at high end stores they have lots of cash they make at least a grand a day when things was good about 30 gs a month they have lots saved up so this pandemic ain't hurting them much.[/QUOTE]Last year after robert craft raid, irs tracked more than 10 M (yes M not K) money laundering in floria area to mainland China.
Soon after with east coast raids, 10 m in NY and another 10 M in another state.
While seattle China town AMP raids, california fbi raided Chinese tour company that launder more than 10 M to China.
China is huge country.
When korean AMP (in mainland but dallas, koreans are not main stream anymore with less influx of younger pros and older professional ****** retire)'s laundering is only half M, Chinese connection has different level.
Now for budget, raiding AMP is huge cash cow to government.
You have the worst of all possible worlds at that point.
Those girls won't know what to charge because they've never done this kind of work before. They'll think $300 for an unenthusiastic CBJ in a car is a steal.
The guys are going to be pissed because they have to bargain with girls who think they give the best head in the world and have golden pussies. I've never met a woman who didn't think she gave the best BJs and whose pussy wasn't the tightest.
In the end, if the girl is hard up enough, she will do it because she needs the money, but in the end you would have been better off going to a tube site and jerking off. It'll be like seeing a SW when she hasn't made any money all day and needs a fix.
As for if the Asians coming back, I'm sure they are because there's money to be made, but it won't be for a long time because the money won't be here. I suspect it'll be a long time, if ever, that Hawaii recovers because the state can't seem to get itself off the teat of tourism.
[QUOTE=ReallyOldGuy;4751399]Idk, it may not be too bad only different. Many locals are now unemployed or soon will be and will need income. Perhaps more local women will find it necessary to work in the sex trade. I kinda feel bad about this, we all should. But the decisions they will make is for them to decide.
The asians will come back when this covid19 mess is over. Financial conditions in their home countries are probably worse than here.
Rog.[/QUOTE]
Been MIA since this whole covid-19 started. Watching a lot of porn LOL. Anyone has a list of girls from O'ahu that has an onlyfans account?
Been debating to sign up on their and watch some vids and subscribe to some girls but only looking for Hawaii based chicks since we need to keep our money in our state LOL. Jk.
PM is fine.
TIA!
[QUOTE=LickYourClit;4743236]I am so disgusted right now just when things couldn't get any worse I lost my good friend he committed suicide he was just telling me a girl he thought was his girlfriend got married she was his first love he said he thought she loved him he said he couldn't handle thinking of her married to someone else. Then I get a call he shot him self in the head RIP bro just letting you newbies know don't fall in love with them the hurt is never worth it. It was only a week or two he told me they was doing fine together then this happened it makes me sick but I know how he felt never let them get the best of you never give up just move on I never thought he would of did something like that damn I wish I could of prevented that from happening these girls are the devil.[/QUOTE]I can imagine the heartache that he went through. Do you know which provider he was seeing?
[QUOTE=ShootsBrah;4752839]Been MIA since this whole covid-19 started. Watching a lot of porn LOL. Anyone has a list of girls from O'ahu that has an onlyfans account?
Been debating to sign up on their and watch some vids and subscribe to some girls but only looking for Hawaii based chicks since we need to keep our money in our state LOL. Jk.
PM is fine.
TIA![/QUOTE]Only one I got is.
[URL]https://onlyfans.com/genevievebarcelona[/URL]
The only two I know of so far:
Hapa Jasmine — [URL]https://onlyfans.com/genevievebarcelona[/URL].
Madison Marie / Madison Monroe (based on the Big Island) — [URL]http://onlyfans.com/madisonmariexxx[/URL].
Madison also has a pornhub page.
[QUOTE=ShootsBrah;4752839]Been MIA since this whole covid-19 started. Watching a lot of porn LOL. Anyone has a list of girls from O'ahu that has an onlyfans account?
Been debating to sign up on their and watch some vids and subscribe to some girls but only looking for Hawaii based chicks since we need to keep our money in our state LOL. Jk.
PM is fine.
TIA![/QUOTE]