Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393030]Got to FC about 5 pm. Dayshift. Nice lineup. Had great food service and drinks. Sat at the bar. I had been there about 4 hours was ready to go when a mexican girl came over. She was beautiful and fun. Super friendly. She kept bugging me to go to the VIP. I finally gave in and I got taken advantage of yet again. We agreed on 3 for 30 min. Anything goes. Curtians shut. Asks for the money right away. I'm dumb enough to give it to her. 2 min into it she says CBJ only. I'm like what? She says FS is 300 more. I'm like getting pissed now. I'm like whatever. Kept asking me for 300 more before ever even starting to earn the first 300. Then she goes well times up. I never got anything at all. Maybe 30 secs of a condom on. We were together maybe7 min max. I was pissed which I never am but these fuckin upcharges I'm done. I will never pay before the task is done and if I hear 1 upcharge comment I'm walkin the fuck right out. Worst experience ever in a VIP room. She bolted out of there and disappeared quick. I like the clubs but I'm done being hustled. She didnt deserve even 50 dollars. Beware of her. Works nights Fri and Sat. Any suggestions are appreciated. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Whats her name so we can out her here on these boards !! ??

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7393114]Whats her name so we can out her here on these boards !! ??[/QUOTE]I don't remember. It was said once but I forgot. Long blonde hair. Pretty. D cups natural. Gets there about 7 on Fri and Saturdays. Mexican.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393030]Got to FC about 5 pm. Dayshift. Nice lineup. Had great food service and drinks. Sat at the bar. I had been there about 4 hours was ready to go when a mexican girl came over. She was beautiful and fun. Super friendly. She kept bugging me to go to the VIP. I finally gave in and I got taken advantage of yet again. We agreed on 3 for 30 min. Anything goes. Curtians shut. Asks for the money right away. I'm dumb enough to give it to her. 2 min into it she says CBJ only. I'm like what? She says FS is 300 more. I'm like getting pissed now. I'm like whatever. Kept asking me for 300 more before ever even starting to earn the first 300. Then she goes well times up. I never got anything at all. Maybe 30 secs of a condom on. We were together maybe7 min max. I was pissed which I never am but these fuckin upcharges I'm done. I will never pay before the task is done and if I hear 1 upcharge comment I'm walkin the fuck right out. Worst experience ever in a VIP room. She bolted out of there and disappeared quick. I like the clubs but I'm done being hustled. She didnt deserve even 50 dollars. Beware of her. Works nights Fri and Sat. Any suggestions are appreciated. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Dude, our 2nd brain gets us into trouble. When they ask for money up front, I reply with "I always pay at the end. " I might even show them the cash, just to prove I have it. If they say no, then I stand up and get ready to leave. And 100% of he time, they say, ok, let's go, you can pay after.

I decided to visit a few strip clubs last night before some soon to come bills arrive, while I had the chance. I decided against BT's due to their valet only parking, and Bogart's was uneventful. Things picked up after that. I spent some quality time in back at Silver Criket w / Brittney, a 27 year old, White, long haired lass. Can't recall exactly but I shelled out around $160.00 to taste her front and back. At H8, I first got a simple lap dance from Roxanne, then a full session (well, orally speaking) from 'Dream' for $120.00. Going down on her front and back really WAS like a dream, and I highly recommend both of these gals. Roxanne is reasonably attractive, sweet and honest (she was the one who returned my wallet untouched when I dropped it in back last year). Dream is an absolute knockout if you (like myself) prefer younger, thinner gals. She's 22, long haired, White, has long legs in proportion to her body, very small on top, pretty as can be in the face and athletically built. The only thing I can say 'negative' about her is that she is very quiet, if that matters to you. Not negative or snobby mind you, just a woman of very few words. I would definitely repeat w / either H8 gal.

Lastly, I hit Centerfold and enjoyed a lap dance w / 'Foxy', and early 30's hottie similar in face / body to Dream but perhaps a bit shorter. She too was fun to be w / and more talkative than Dream.

[QUOTE=Lamarr;7393135]Dude, our 2nd brain gets us into trouble. When they ask for money up front, I reply with "I always pay at the end. " I might even show them the cash, just to prove I have it. If they say no, then I stand up and get ready to leave. And 100% of he time, they say, ok, let's go, you can pay after.[/QUOTE]All the clubs have ATMs and there are bouncers and even valet to prevent a customer from dining and dashing. There is absolutely no reason for these dancers to ask for money up front.

[QUOTE=MIJohn;7393149]I decided to visit a few strip clubs last night before some soon to come bills arrive, while I had the chance. I decided against BT's due to their valet only parking, and Bogart's was uneventful. Things picked up after that. I spent some quality time in back at Silver Criket w / Brittney, a 27 year old, White, long haired lass. Can't recall exactly but I shelled out around $160.00 to taste her front and back. At H8, I first got a simple lap dance from Roxanne, then a full session (well, orally speaking) from 'Dream' for $120.00. Going down on her front and back really WAS like a dream, and I highly recommend both of these gals. Roxanne is reasonably attractive, sweet and honest (she was the one who returned my wallet untouched when I dropped it in back last year). Dream is an absolute knockout if you (like myself) prefer younger, thinner gals. She's 22, long haired, White, has long legs in proportion to her body, very small on top, pretty as can be in the face and athletically built. The only thing I can say 'negative' about her is that she is very quiet, if that matters to you. Not negative or snobby mind you, just a woman of very few words. I would definitely repeat w / either H8 gal.

Lastly, I hit Centerfold and enjoyed a lap dance w / 'Foxy', and early 30's hottie similar in face / body to Dream but perhaps a bit shorter. She too was fun to be w / and more talkative than Dream.[/QUOTE]Nice insight into these gals. Apologies for my bombardment of questions.

Offhandedly, do you know what nights Dream tends to work? Saturdays aren't great for me so hoping she's working weekdays, she sounds like my type.

Same question for Foxy, though is Centerfold an extras club? I've never ventured into the Detroit venues as I've heard they are pretty locked down in that regard.

How thin is Brittney? Assuming average as you hadn't specifically mentioned her being slender.

BTs I've been two a handful of times during their dayshift and they haven't questioned me arriving on foot (I park in a public lot to the east). Nightshift might be a different tale altogether.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393030]Got to FC about 5 pm. Dayshift. Nice lineup. Had great food service and drinks. Sat at the bar. I had been there about 4 hours was ready to go when a mexican girl came over. She was beautiful and fun. Super friendly. She kept bugging me to go to the VIP. I finally gave in and I got taken advantage of yet again. We agreed on 3 for 30 min. Anything goes. Curtians shut. Asks for the money right away. I'm dumb enough to give it to her. 2 min into it she says CBJ only. I'm like what? She says FS is 300 more. I'm like getting pissed now. I'm like whatever. Kept asking me for 300 more before ever even starting to earn the first 300. Then she goes well times up. I never got anything at all. Maybe 30 secs of a condom on. We were together maybe7 min max. I was pissed which I never am but these fuckin upcharges I'm done. I will never pay before the task is done and if I hear 1 upcharge comment I'm walkin the fuck right out. Worst experience ever in a VIP room. She bolted out of there and disappeared quick. I like the clubs but I'm done being hustled. She didnt deserve even 50 dollars. Beware of her. Works nights Fri and Sat. Any suggestions are appreciated. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Flight club is known to nickle and dime custies. Your first mistake was surrendering your car keys. If you have a dispute with a dancer about what you owe her the club will always side with the dancer. She's hard to replace, you're not. I've gone back with a dancer who insisted on being paid first. I say "this isn't going to work" and walked out. I've had the bouncers get involved. I tell them "I didn't want to pay first, now I'm leaving". Since my keys are in my pocket, I get in my car and leave.

[QUOTE=MIJohn;7393149]

Lastly, I hit Centerfold and enjoyed a lap dance w / 'Foxy', and early 30's hottie similar in face / body to Dream but perhaps a bit shorter. She too was fun to be w / and more talkative than Dream.[/QUOTE]I hit up Centerfold during the day shift since I was in the area as well. I didn't have much expectation but was surprised the girls was a bit better than H8 in terms of no big lady's. I saw 2 slim gals, a blond MILF and 2 AA. Dances are 25, the semi private area 5, no cover (day time) and parking 2 bucks. I don't think there is extra's since the dances are by the DJ and it's not very private but it was a nice lap dance, no fiv, roaming allowed. The main room is non smoking and there is a side room where they allowed smoking. The smoking room has lots of windows that is long, narrow and has long tables with bar stools to sit on. Overall it was a nice place where they are not blasting the music and not smokey in the main area but my domestic beer did cost me 10 bucks.

Hello.

I am not sure about Dream as I did not ask, but Foxy is typically at Centerfold on Saturdays from what I've seen. No, Centerfold isn't an extras club, although w most gals there, you can touch anywhere except the puss during dances. April is another hot one (early 30's / slim / no tits / long legs and long hair) for guys like me who prefer that type.

Brittney is definitely in the 'thick but no fat' category. No 'big ass' or excessive side rolls, but definitely a few extra pounds in the middle and hips areas.

[QUOTE=Sixsixths;7393307]Nice insight into these gals. Apologies for my bombardment of questions.

Offhandedly, do you know what nights Dream tends to work? Saturdays aren't great for me so hoping she's working weekdays, she sounds like my type.

Same question for Foxy, though is Centerfold an extras club? I've never ventured into the Detroit venues as I've heard they are pretty locked down in that regard.

How thin is Brittney? Assuming average as you hadn't specifically mentioned her being slender.

BTs I've been two a handful of times during their dayshift and they haven't questioned me arriving on foot (I park in a public lot to the east). Nightshift might be a different tale altogether.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;7393327]Flight club is known to nickle and dime custies. Your first mistake was surrendering your car keys. If you have a dispute with a dancer about what you owe her the club will always side with the dancer. She's hard to replace, you're not. I've gone back with a dancer who insisted on being paid first. I say "this isn't going to work" and walked out. I've had the bouncers get involved. I tell them "I didn't want to pay first, now I'm leaving". Since my keys are in my pocket, I get in my car and leave.[/QUOTE]I have only gone to Landing Strip or Flight Club. Both have valet. How do you keep your keys in your pocket? I'm really trying to learnthis club game to avoid getting ripped off again. Mm686.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393710]I have only gone to Landing Strip or Flight Club. Both have valet. How do you keep your keys in your pocket? I'm really trying to learnthis club game to avoid getting ripped off again. Mm686.[/QUOTE]PL is referring to the clubs like Cricket and Bogarts where you can self park. People park off site at BTS and walk in. I don't believe they will let you do that at fc or ls.

It was pretty much all Cubans except for maybe 2 blonde's. Anna stopped by and negotiated down from 300 to 200 pretty easily. 1 warmup dance, one CBJ song, and she straddled me and rode it for one song and I popped in the cover. She is hot and knows her craft, LOL. Left quick and happy.

Nick6789, I think you and I were in the club at the same time. I arrived around 8 pm, and as he said, 95% of the dancers were Cuban. I caught Stephanie, Andrea, Leah, Bella, Paris, Kara, Adrianna, Giselle, Melissa, Kiara, Raquel, Alexa & Chelsea all dancing before Anna came over. She started at $300, quickly went to $250, and I told her my max was $200. Scooped her to the VIP and I bent her over the chair and lasted about two songs in before I blasted my Bacardi baby batter in the bag. Will repeat!

Left BTs happy and came to a regular spot where before shift change, Sunflower, Arabella & Brown Sugar were all dancing. Cassie was now in, as well as the blowjob queen Riley, and many others I've never met. About the time Armani got on stage, Capri, this well built black lady, late 30's came over to chat. We had some small talk and then I asked her how open she was. She said there's nothing she won't do. I asked how much for FS. She initially said $200. I paused, didn't say a word and she immediately said $140 without me prompting. Now I will try and go lower next time, but I wasn't saying no to watching that ass jiggle in the back. Left here happy and will return.

Visited a few clubs, mid-afternoon.

BTs had a sizable amount of girls, though all were huddled around who I could only assume was the owner or higher management, based on how he freely walked around the place. None were looking for work. What girls were dancing weren't my type, and the one that was promptly joined the table with the owner.

Went to Bogarts and found nothing worthwhile for me, with the exception of maybe Pixie (who I've mentioned prior), but she was occupied with one particular guy so I didn't wait around.

Ended at Henry's, where I met Brandy, a petite girl in her 30's. Great body, with soft skin, a handful of tattoos, and smaller breasts and a cute little ass. Would think she was in her early 20's based on the body. Face was what you'd expect of someone her age. Let me feel her up at the bar for a bit, without any promise of a dance or payment. Since she's my type almost to a T, I maybe overpaid at 240 (her initial price was 300), but little head and by that time a healthy amount of booze made me not negotiate as much as I should have. All covered and a good time.

[QUOTE=Bacardi1314;7394897]Left BTs happy and came to a regular spot where before shift change, Sunflower, Arabella & Brown Sugar were all dancing. Cassie was now in, as well as the blowjob queen Riley, and many others I've never met. About the time Armani got on stage, Capri, this well built black lady, late 30's came over to chat. We had some small talk and then I asked her how open she was. She said there's nothing she won't do. I asked how much for FS. She initially said $200. I paused, didn't say a word and she immediately said $140 without me prompting. Now I will try and go lower next time, but I wasn't saying no to watching that ass jiggle in the back. Left here happy and will return.[/QUOTE]Capri is a good one, glad she is back working.

[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7391542]Good choices on all 3. I like that Andrea. She is down to earth and keeps it real. Her strip mall BBL story was entertaining. There is an AA dancer I talked to a few times that I might give a go that goes by "Lucky".[/QUOTE]I did not hear Andrea's "strip mall BBL" story, so I will ask next time I see her. Agreed, she is straightforward and transparent; what you see is what you get. I like her a lot.

Lucky has introduced herself to me at least twice now while the girls I came to visit were on stage or getting ready for me, and so unfortunately I have not had the pleasure of her company yet, as I have been occupied with the other ladies I mentioned.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393030]Got to FC about 5 pm. Dayshift. Nice lineup. Had great food service and drinks. Sat at the bar. I had been there about 4 hours was ready to go when a mexican girl came over. She was beautiful and fun. Super friendly. She kept bugging me to go to the VIP. I finally gave in and I got taken advantage of yet again. We agreed on 3 for 30 min. Anything goes. Curtians shut. Asks for the money right away. I'm dumb enough to give it to her. 2 min into it she says CBJ only. I'm like what? She says FS is 300 more. I'm like getting pissed now. I'm like whatever. Kept asking me for 300 more before ever even starting to earn the first 300. Then she goes well times up. I never got anything at all. Maybe 30 secs of a condom on. We were together maybe7 min max. I was pissed which I never am but these fuckin upcharges I'm done. I will never pay before the task is done and if I hear 1 upcharge comment I'm walkin the fuck right out. Worst experience ever in a VIP room. She bolted out of there and disappeared quick. I like the clubs but I'm done being hustled. She didnt deserve even 50 dollars. Beware of her. Works nights Fri and Sat. Any suggestions are appreciated. Mm686.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's happened to all of us: a dancer persuades a customer to pay first, then reneges on the deal. She won't last long as word gets around.

Scroll back in this thread, the message has been posted several times: Never pay before services are rendered. As MM says, if a peeler says you must pay first, she is signaling you that she will cheat you if you give her the opportunity. Take advantage of her free, early warning and end the session immediately. Do not argue or negotiate or engage. Stop. Pay for however many songs were played — the bouncer will tell you the song count, so there should be no dispute — then leave the VIP.

Haven't been much of a frequent visitor since covid but was flying back to town from a work trip and decided to see how things are going at Bogarts and Hanks.

Stopped by Bogarts and, for a Tuesday $10 dance night, it was dead. Over half a dozen mongers sitting unattended and only a couple girls in sight. The waitress said it was a very unusual Tuesday night so I finished my beer and decided to head over to Hanks.

Hanks was much better, fair number of girls. Still only one girl on stage at a time but girls were sitting with a fair portion of them and other a few others were walking around looking for someone to sit with. After a few rotations on the stage Jasmine came over to hang all over me. She seemed hot but something was off about her. I know there is a positive review a few posts back about her but she kept alternating between sexy talk and some very not sexy talk (sometimes tearful, sometimes angry). Won't go into specifics but decided that no matter how much fun she might be I wasn't up for playing with crazy that night.

Next I caught the attention of Nadia. She seemed nice and normal, until we got in the back. Demanded $100 prepay for five dances. Got a little indignant when I said I won't prepay so she said then it would be $25 a song. The vibe was bad at that point so I walked out.

Not too long after that it was 1:30 and everyone was packing up to close and go home early. All the girls disappeared and the waitresses were cleaning up the floor and the table. Thought is was already 2 for a second.

Hope my experience hasn't become the norm.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393030]Got to FC about 5 pm. Dayshift. Nice lineup. Had great food service and drinks. Sat at the bar. I had been there about 4 hours was ready to go when a mexican girl came over. She was beautiful and fun. Super friendly. She kept bugging me to go to the VIP. I finally gave in and I got taken advantage of yet again. We agreed on 3 for 30 min. Anything goes. Curtians shut. Asks for the money right away. I'm dumb enough to give it to her. 2 min into it she says CBJ only. I'm like what? She says FS is 300 more. I'm like getting pissed now. I'm like whatever. Kept asking me for 300 more before ever even starting to earn the first 300. Then she goes well times up. I never got anything at all. Maybe 30 secs of a condom on. We were together maybe7 min max. I was pissed which I never am but these fuckin upcharges I'm done. I will never pay before the task is done and if I hear 1 upcharge comment I'm walkin the fuck right out. Worst experience ever in a VIP room. She bolted out of there and disappeared quick. I like the clubs but I'm done being hustled. She didnt deserve even 50 dollars. Beware of her. Works nights Fri and Sat. Any suggestions are appreciated. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Lost count of the number of times this story has been reported at the Flight Club over the years. Haven't been there in ages and doubt I'll ever be back.

[QUOTE=AmPho;7396375]Haven't been much of a frequent visitor since covid but was flying back to town from a work trip and decided to see how things are going at Bogarts and Hanks.

Stopped by Bogarts and, for a Tuesday $10 dance night, it was dead. Over half a dozen mongers sitting unattended and only a couple girls in sight. The waitress said it was a very unusual Tuesday night so I finished my beer and decided to head over to Hanks.

Hanks was much better, fair number of girls. Still only one girl on stage at a time but girls were sitting with a fair portion of them and other a few others were walking around looking for someone to sit with. After a few rotations on the stage Jasmine came over to hang all over me. She seemed hot but something was off about her. I know there is a positive review a few posts back about her but she kept alternating between sexy talk and some very not sexy talk (sometimes tearful, sometimes angry). Won't go into specifics but decided that no matter how much fun she might be I wasn't up for playing with crazy that night.

Next I caught the attention of Nadia. She seemed nice and normal, until we got in the back. Demanded $100 prepay for five dances. Got a little indignant when I said I won't prepay so she said then it would be $25 a song. The vibe was bad at that point so I walked out.

Not too long after that it was 1:30 and everyone was packing up to close and go home early. All the girls disappeared and the waitresses were cleaning up the floor and the table. Thought is was already 2 for a second.

Hope my experience hasn't become the norm.[/QUOTE]If someone were to ask which night of the week is the worst to go to the clubs I would say Tues nights are worst.

Worst nights list.

1, Tuesday.

2. Sunday.

3. Monday.

4. Wednesday.

5. Thurs.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7396392]If someone were to ask which night of the week is the worst to go to the clubs I would say Tues nights are worst.

Worst nights list.

1, Tuesday.

2. Sunday.

3. Monday.

4. Wednesday.

5. Thurs.[/QUOTE]I understand that days are not available to everyone, but I prefer day shift. Girls on day shift seem more eager to make money. I've never gone long without company at BT's, and usually I have company before my one drink is served. Full disclosure, this often is due to a dancer texting me an invitation to see her that afternoon, or due to me sending a text to a dancer alerting her I am walking in; so I am expected.

[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;7396389]Lost count of the number of times this story has been reported at the Flight Club over the years. Haven't been there in ages and doubt I'll ever be back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EatonBeaver;7396389]Lost count of the number of times this story has been reported at the Flight Club over the years. Haven't been there in ages and doubt I'll ever be back.[/QUOTE]It seems the norm there. All of them do it. Try to hustle you and not deliver.

Here's a list of shit I've heard.

1. Oh its my turn to dance got to go or you need to pay for it.

2. Oh I touched you there for 3 seconds that's 200 more.

3 Oh now you want FS? I get 600 for that. When im sure her norm is 300

4. Well my time sitting with you at the bar was 200 and our VIP was 300. After I bouggt them 50 dollars in drinks.

5. I agreeded for a handy a rate. Oh please let bbj. They bbj for 6 seconds stop and say this is 200 more.

6. We agreed on 30 min after 8 min they say Times up. And never even looked at the time.

7. Song count was 3 songs. I say I'm good. They say that was 8 songs.

Many more lines of shit.

I'm more than willing to support these places but refuse to get in these stupid conflicts with these girls.

It Totally fuckin wrecks the whole visit for me. I'm done.

BTW TY for all the feedback.Its given me a lot of good info. mm686

Ya in the last year or so.

Ya in the last year or 2 I have had more bad than good experiences at these places. Before covid it was usually pretty good. It is one reason I have not bothered to attend the last 6 months.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7396699]It seems the norm there. All of them do it. Try to hustle you and not deliver.

Here's a list of shit I've heard.


I'm more than willing to support these places but refuse to get in these stupid conflicts with these mm686[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MIJohn;7393149]Dream is an absolute knockout if you (like myself) prefer younger, thinner gals. She's 22, long haired, White, has long legs in proportion to her body, very small on top, pretty as can be in the face and athletically built. The only thing I can say 'negative' about her is that she is very quiet, if that matters to you. Not negative or snobby mind you, just a woman of very few words. I would definitely repeat w / either H8 gal.[/QUOTE]Last night, I met and went back with Dream at Henry's. Your description of her is very accurate. She's nice, easy to talk to and negotiations were no problem at all. She didn't rush me and she didn't try to upsell me. Yes, she is quiet in the back, but I prefer it that way. A personal pet peeve of mine with dancers, is when they do that fake porn star acting. Not only is it annoying, it throws my concentration off. I'd rate my experience with Dream as excellent and she's a definite repeat for me. I can easily see myself becoming one of her regulars.

I'm thinking about going back up there today, for day shift. Ideally, Sunflower is working. She's consistently been a favorite of mine. I haven't seen Selena up there in three or four weeks now.

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7396146]I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's happened to all of us: a dancer persuades a customer to pay first, then reneges on the deal. She won't last long as word gets around.

Scroll back in this thread, the message has been posted several times: Never pay before services are rendered. As MM says, if a peeler says you must pay first, she is signaling you that she will cheat you if you give her the opportunity. Take advantage of her free, early warning and end the session immediately. Do not argue or negotiate or engage. Stop. Pay for however many songs were played the bouncer will tell you the song count, so there should be no dispute then leave the VIP.[/QUOTE]You're going to trust the bouncer? If you're at flight club or landing strip you'll have surrendered your car keys, and you won't get them back unless the girl says you can get them back. They have an ATM for your convenience. Staff will always side with the dancer. They don't care if you'll never come back, they want the girls to know they'll back them up. If your keys are in your pocket you can leave.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7393710]I have only gone to Landing Strip or Flight Club. Both have valet. How do you keep your keys in your pocket? I'm really trying to learnthis club game to avoid getting ripped off again. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Bring an extra key.

I swear the girls at FC and LS are unionizing. It seems almost everyone I talk to now is quoting $500 and staying firm on it. I've walked away more than I ever have in the last few months.

[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7396893]Bring an extra key.

I swear the girls at FC and LS are unionizing. It seems almost everyone I talk to now is quoting $500 and staying firm on it. I've walked away more than I ever have in the last few months.[/QUOTE]So which extras club is the best to go to to get what you want without the games? H8 Bogies or BTs? Or another. I've only been to FC and LS. M686.

[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7396893]Bring an extra key.

I swear the girls at FC and LS are unionizing. It seems almost everyone I talk to now is quoting $500 and staying firm on it. I've walked away more than I ever have in the last few months.[/QUOTE]I'm with you! LS has attractive women still but as you said they have practically unionized! It's still fun to go there to look and have beer but I have little expectations of going to the VIP rooms anymore, Bogies is even worse lately, the only reason to go there is to watch the Tigers game and hope for the rare, eager new (non Cuban) girl to show up. Which hasn't happened all summer.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7396817]Last night, I met and went back with Dream at Henry's. Your description of her is very accurate. She's nice, easy to talk to and negotiations were no problem at all. She didn't rush me and she didn't try to upsell me. Yes, she is quiet in the back, but I prefer it that way. A personal pet peeve of mine with dancers, is when they do that fake porn star acting. Not only is it annoying, it throws my concentration off. I'd rate my experience with Dream as excellent and she's a definite repeat for me. I can easily see myself becoming one of her regulars.

I'm thinking about going back up there today, for day shift. Ideally, Sunflower is working. She's consistently been a favorite of mine. I haven't seen Selena up there in three or four weeks now.[/QUOTE]I hear you about the fake acting. Very over done and annoying. But yes, Dream is (so far) an unspoiled, young (22) starlet. Good to hear you enjoyed her company as well. I'm sure glad I found her when I did! .

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7396146] As MM says, if a peeler says you must pay first, she is signaling you that she will cheat you if you give her the opportunity. Take advantage of her free, early warning and end the session immediately. Do not argue or negotiate or engage. Stop. Pay for however many songs were played the bouncer will tell you the song count, so there should be no dispute then leave the VIP.[/QUOTE]WK,

I couldn't have said it better.

MM686, she gave you the opportunity to walk away, next time take it. I also paid a girl upfront once, and had a similar experience to you. Lesson learned, it is just part of being a good monger.

MM.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;7396392]If someone were to ask which night of the week is the worst to go to the clubs I would say Tues nights are worst.

Worst nights list.

1, Tuesday.

2. Sunday.

3. Monday.

4. Wednesday.

5. Thurs.[/QUOTE]JOC,

I will just share my experiences. It is not on your list but Saturday night is always one of my worst nights. Part of the problem is mine that I like young fit girls and on any given night there are only 1 or 2 or 3 girls that fall into that category. So I have low selection to begin with.

Many of these girls have really successful Thursday and Friday nights so when they get to Saturday their purses are full. They demand high prices I refuse to pay. They often prefer to sit and drink and get wasted from the guys buying them alcohol than do a VIP session.

The make it rain crowd shows up on Saturday and often throws more money on stage dances than I pay for happy times in the VIP.

Finally if a girl who is my type wants to go to the VIP on Saturday, she has an abundance of customers. If I was the girl I would service the customer in price order putting as much money in my pocket early in the evening. So I sit there and nurse my drink while I watch her take all the $500 and $400 guys to the VIP. Sure she will eventually get around to me towards the end of the night. By then I don't even enjoy the session as much I just want to pop and get back to my hotel.

Most Saturday nights I struggle to get 1 session done. My preference is to do 2 sessions a night, but I can't think of the last time I was successful, and I have a higher success rate on all other nights of the week.

MM.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7396699]It seems the norm there. All of them do it. Try to hustle you and not deliver.

Here's a list of shit I've heard.

1. Oh its my turn to dance got to go or you need to pay for it.

2. Oh I touched you there for 3 seconds that's 200 more.

3 Oh now you want FS? I get 600 for that. When im sure her norm is 300

4. Well my time sitting with you at the bar was 200 and our VIP was 300. After I bouggt them 50 dollars in drinks.

5. I agreeded for a handy a rate. Oh please let bbj. They bbj for 6 seconds stop and say this is 200 more.

6. We agreed on 30 min after 8 min they say Times up. And never even looked at the time.

7. Song count was 3 songs. I say I'm good. They say that was 8 songs.

Many more lines of shit.

I'm more than willing to support these places but refuse to get in these stupid conflicts with these girls.

It Totally fuckin wrecks the whole visit for me. I'm done.

BTW TY for all the feedback.Its given me a lot of good info. mm686[/QUOTE]MM6868,

I only go to flight club if a girl I met someplace starts working there.

I have rarely gone FC since I had a horrible experience with Alasia in 2020, she later moved to H8.

I tried to make things work at FC, and occasionally I would find a fun girl. Cherry from 2018 comes to mind.

So many nights I would sit there and talk to 10 different girls and not find one I liked in my price range. I just wasn't up for telling so many girls thanks but no thanks, when in the other clubs I would rarely need to talk to more than 3 girls to find one I liked and was affordable.

Also there is some weird vibe at Flight Club, I have had girls who were totally fun at other clubs, get bitchy when they move over to Flight Club. I don't know why but it also cause me to avoid the place.

As for the hustles you list girls try them in all clubs, but in most club being clear during the negotiation phase eliminate most of the problems, and you can always walk out the VIP when she tries these hustles.

MM.

[QUOTE=MIJohn;7397135]I hear you about the fake acting. Very over done and annoying. But yes, Dream is (so far) an unspoiled, young (22) starlet. Good to hear you enjoyed her company as well. I'm sure glad I found her when I did! .[/QUOTE]Agreed, she is thus far an unspoiled starlet. Honestly, your review (and of course, her attractiveness), was what prompted me to tip her and have her come over to talk. That's the thing about new talent: you never know how things are going to be, in regard to hassles or performance. She checks all of the good boxes and none of the bad. Like I said before, I can easily see myself becoming one of her regulars.

I had some things going on yesterday, so I ended up not going able to go over there yesterday. How was it? Day shift, night shift?

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;7397022]So which extras club is the best to go to to get what you want without the games? H8 Bogies or BTs? Or another. I've only been to FC and LS. M686.[/QUOTE]I have had great success at BT's and very good success at Criket and Bogart's. But, skewing my success rate is the following:

1) I visit only during day shift, because day shift dancers tend to be more interested in earning, not partying, and there are fewer customers than night shift;.

2) I tend to repeat with the same dancers:

3) I exchange numbers with my favorites and we text each other as to availability, so I know when they are in the club, and they know when I am coming;.

4) Yes, I have been fortunate when choosing new dancers. I have met four this year whom I enjoy seeing regularly, and they ask me to come see them;.

5) I am a frequent customer (at BT's, anyway), so I am a known quantity to the girls and the staff.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw three of my favorites in succession, and spent most of my time in the VIP, because as soon as I exited, another favorite greeted me before I could return to my booth. I didn't get to finish my one drink until after seeing girl number three.

I am not a high roller, but I offer a reasonable amount because I like a complete session in the VIP.

And, it should go without saying, I practice good hygiene, good manners, good attire; I smile at the ladies, compliment them, and act genuinely happy to be there, because I am.

Oh, and I ensure they have a great time with me. I give just as good as I get, and this ensures repeat sessions. VIP sessions are not a one-way street, even it is the customer paying for services. Treat her better than your paid employee, you may reap dividends.

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7397699]I have had great success at BT's and very good success at Criket and Bogart's. But, skewing my success rate is the following:

1) I visit only during day shift, because day shift dancers tend to be more interested in earning, not partying, and there are fewer customers than night shift;.

2) I tend to repeat with the same dancers:

3) I exchange numbers with my favorites and we text each other as to availability, so I know when they are in the club, and they know when I am coming;.

4) Yes, I have been fortunate when choosing new dancers. I have met four this year whom I enjoy seeing regularly, and they ask me to come see them;.

5) I am a frequent customer (at BT's, anyway), so I am a known quantity to the girls and the staff.

A couple of weeks ago, I saw three of my favorites in succession, and spent most of my time in the VIP, because as soon as I exited, another favorite greeted me before I could return to my booth. I didn't get to finish my one drink until after seeing girl number three.

I am not a high roller, but I offer a reasonable amount because I like a complete session in the VIP.

And, it should go without saying, I practice good hygiene, good manners, good attire; I smile at the ladies, compliment them, and act genuinely happy to be there, because I am.

Oh, and I ensure they have a great time with me. I give just as good as I get, and this ensures repeat sessions. VIP sessions are not a one-way street, even it is the customer paying for services. Treat her better than your paid employee, you may reap dividends.[/QUOTE]So much wisdom here but the one that really sticks out to me is be a repeat customer.

Most strippers know that repeat customers are desirable, and hard to find. Repeat customers are rewarded with all kinds of services with out asking, naked photos and videos, lower prices, and more of a fun dating style interaction. The vast majority of girls would rather see you a for the 5th time than some new guy for the first time. You are a known quantity and happy with her performance. She doesn't have to worry about you cheating her. And every time you are in the club she makes good money, no wonder she is happy to see you.

Don't be surprised if she tells the other girls that you and her only do dances. And she charges you $1000 every time you come in. She gets status from the other dancers that she has repeat customers. Especially when you try to get you to dance with them or you decline there attempt to negotiate a VIP saying I came in to see Susie.

In 2022 and 2023 I had regular girl that both my buddy and I used to see. We would tag team her constantly in and out of the VIP. And when we were both too tired shoot another load we would sit at the table drinking and laughing with her for a couple hours. She would occasionally see another customer when we were in to see her. But most nights she only saw the two of us and we both took her to the VIP 2 times in the night. So she had 4 VIP sessions and a purse full of money. As we sat in the booth yucking it up we could often here peelers in the next booth complaining that those two guys only come in to see her and she spends all night with them, gets all there money and none of get any of it. Every time she would hear another stripper complaining about us being her regulars she would get the biggest smile on her face and be in a super good mood that the other girls were jealous of her.

MM.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7396817]Last night, I met and went back with Dream at Henry's. Your description of her is very accurate. She's nice, easy to talk to and negotiations were no problem at all. She didn't rush me and she didn't try to upsell me. Yes, she is quiet in the back, but I prefer it that way. A personal pet peeve of mine with dancers, is when they do that fake porn star acting. Not only is it annoying, it throws my concentration off. I'd rate my experience with Dream as excellent and she's a definite repeat for me. I can easily see myself becoming one of her regulars.

I'm thinking about going back up there today, for day shift. Ideally, Sunflower is working. She's consistently been a favorite of mine. I haven't seen Selena up there in three or four weeks now.[/QUOTE]Any chance you know if she works weekends?

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;7397514]I had some things going on yesterday, so I ended up not going able to go over there yesterday. How was it? Day shift, night shift?[/QUOTE]Check your pm's.

Best spot and best girls that usual work Sunday day shift. Thank you for any info!