I think we all know that SWs are addicts.
[QUOTE=Ms Lady1234]Cassandra is a blonde 47th street regular, heavy heavy dopefiend.
As for Megan
Another needle scarred junkie. "[/quote]I spent time talking to an older, longtime SW in Indianapolis a couple of weeks ago. She was about a week away from starting an 18 month sentence on a narcotics charge. She said that the last sentence helped her get off drugs temporarily and she was hoping that the 18 month sentence would get her clean again.
I asked her if she knew of any SWs who weren't addicted. She said in her experience over a lot of years, all SWs are druggies. She said she can put up a good show about enjoying the sex as long as she has the money for a fix.
You are right, Fork Please
At some point here, somebody is going to bust in and say "Can we get back to reporting please, instead of listening to you old farts talk about the way it WAS?" But you're missing the point. There is nothing to report. Seriously. Look back at the last few months.
You are right, Fork. When the concrete planter boxes went up and the wrought iron fences went around the new million dollar homes, something happened to this town. I have talked about with a lot of my friends who are my age, and because I work with a lot of people in their mid 20s, I talk about it with them too. The old ones miss the same things you do, and the young ones are feeling cheated because they missed out on something. But then again, I missed out on Wells St in its heyday in the 60s and early 70s, and the nightclubs of that era as well. Its hard for me to imagine a time when Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin (the P.Diddy and Kanye West of their day) were at the peak of their careers and played nightclubs with only a couple hundred people inside.
I too remember going to Times Square in NYC in the mid early 90s (as it was starting to be cleaned up), and I was like a wide eyed country boy. I was pretty seasoned at that point, but I was amazed at the sex that was available, the theatres , the Private Dancer booths that DIDNT have glass in them, so the girl could reach over and give you a hand job.
No you are right. It has been a gradual death in this city under Mayor ShortShanks. This City needs an enema. There is no soul in this town anymore.
I think that is one of the reasons AMPS have made a huge inroad in this city. LE knows they are brothels, but like the old Leevee District, they can keep the girls all in one place. They arent out on the street. Guys park go in, it happens behind closed doors, and bada bing, bada boom, an envelope is found by a city inspector or a gift is left for a desk sargent somewhere.
Well written Fork.
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New York and Chicago in the early to late 80's
I have never seen anything like this and will never again.....
SW families ( pimps , hoes, their families) would come to chicago in caravans of cars and proposition the chicago sw to come work in their city.
In the mid eighties girls from Chicago would hop on the peoples express airline. It was 60 bucks one way to Newark. Taxi into Manhattan and ply their trade. They'd meet up with the other SW they met from here.
You have never seen anything like this in your life. Literally 15-20 girls on any given corner in the SW district.
I remember seeing sw girls mixed in with fur clad housewives going to the opera . All would be standing on the same corner.
And these SW girls all dressed the part. Fur coats with nothing but lingerie underneath. They would flash the mongers as they drove by.
Heels, stockings, garters, panties, hair done and nails painted were the norm. They had to compete with 10-20 other girls, so they made sure their appearance was up to par.
They could easily make 2000 -3000 in a weekend on the street and be back on the plane to Chicago by sunday night. Professional SW looking to really live well. Not the Crack addicts you have today looking for rocks.
The ground would be littered with gold circle coins condoms wrappers 2 inches deep up to your ankles in those areas. Millions of used condom wrappers everywhere you stepped. I found out they don't make those condoms anymore.
For those of you that don't know Gold circle condoms were the choice of condom for the SW in N.Y.
I remember seeing them on the ground for the first time and thinking they were chocolate candy coverings....lol.
Going WTF who is eating all this candy? Duh!..lmao.
Picture of them below.
If a monger car stopped their would literally be 12 girls swarming on it like bees to honey.
A monger had his choice of girls not like today.
They even had a system with the Cops. The girls agreed to go in for one night every month. If it was their turn to go when the paddy wagon came to the corner the girls would simply get in to get it over with and be free for another remaning month.
I remember seeing girls agruing the the N.Y.P.D say " no you just took me two weeks ago" and they'd check their list and let her go.
It was a system that all the cops and the girls respected. They both worked in unison.
The paddy wagon showed up at different spots almost every night and if it was a girls turn she's walk right over and get in.
They had SW families complete with girls and pimps. The girls all stuck together like a gang. If you fought with one you had to fight with all.
They even had names like gangs. The oriental girls near 1#2nd were the "Seven Sisters"
" the black SW gang of one pimp called Hurricane were called the
Mallards" " another group of tall blondes were called the "Champagne girls" I could go on and on but these were organized gangs of SW.
And everybody knew every one.
They called their fellow crib mates their " wife in laws" and had to protect her or else face the wrath of their pimps when they got home.
Then there were girls without pimps called renegades. Very dangerous situation to be in in N.Y.C at that time. Because they had no protection. they would spend their night turning tricks and having to dodge pimps who would literally pull up behind then in whatever dark alley they were in and try to stalk them and their tricks.
If one of the gang sw got into a fight or altercation her whole family of SW sisters would jump in. if a renegade got into it no one would help her period. No one was allowed.
The sw bond court at 10:00 in the morning was a pimps paradise. They would stand behind the glass and watch as the girls were brought before the judge. There would be literally 20-30 pimps there bonding their girls out and vying to bond out girls they thought were cute and could make them some money. If a girl let one of these pimps pay her bond he would be waiting for her as soon as she stepped out on the ground. And would have to pay him off with interest before he would let her go. She was his property bought and paid for.
A very bad situation for the girl stupid enough to let herself get in it. But when they are locked up they are desperate. So they say yes to anyone that willing to bond them. Not fully understanding the price they'd pay in the end.
These girls had to make quota as well usually 1000 a night. Thats unheard of today.
Then came Mayor Rudy Giuliani and that era was over. He clean up all those areas and now you have what we see there today.