2000-2004 Archived Reports

I'd like to reply to some of the feedback which was generated by the feedback which I provided to Karma.

First of all Karma, I would not lose too much sleep over it. You did it and it's over and the important thing is to live and learn and the key to living well is to have the correct attitude. You only develop that by making mistakes. It's somewhat unfortunate but nonetheless true that they don't teach "Mongering 101" in college or anything at the secondary school level. So it's up to us to educate ourselves as a community.

With respect to Sgt Sad's comments: Don't kid yourself. They do search your clothes if/when you go for a shower. You can bet your ass the mamasan or one of the working girls comes into the room and goes through your clothes to see what's in there. That's how they know, for instance if you are LE and wearing a wire. If you thought they determined this by your looks, you were wrong. If, for some strange reason, you were packing a gun, you can once again bet your ass they would call the cops. And we all know the penalty for packing heat in the District.

Now I agree that they are unlikely to call the cops if you stiff one of the girls at an AMP, but still I think this is a bad habit to get into. For instance if you get into this habit and stiff a SW down on the block, you won't just be refused service next time you show up. You'll be given a cranial massage at the very least. And at the worst, you may lose your life.

As to who's responsible for what, you just can't hold the girl responsible every time you can't come. A lot of things can cause that which are beyond the control of the provider or (certainly) the establishment. For example, certain drugs (medically prescribed or otherwise) can cause problems. Alchohol can cause problems, certain medical conditions such as diabetes, benign prostate hyperplasia, etc. I'm certainly not implying that in Karma's case it was anything other than lack of stimulation. But the point is that there are too many factors which are beyond the control of the provider to hold her responsible. Karma said himself that they went 15 minutes over the session. So that indicates at least some effort on the part of the provider to provide satisfaction. The efforts may have been ineffectual, but they were efforts nonetheless.

I once had an experience in a SPA in Augusta, GA where I was just unable to achieve success. The provider began to rush me and I told her that I did not find her technique stimulating enough. She kept trying different things and I told her that it might help if I could DATY. She said she could not because she was at that time of her cycle. But she went and got another provider who allowed that and I achieved success. At the end, the first provider asked if I was going to provide some small tip for the second provider. Even though I had not asked for the second, I think I gave her 20 bucks in order to try to be reasonable.

I agree with Sgt. Sad that these girls chose their profession but that does not make it any more enjoyable for them. I think we need to be reasonable and kind when we deal with these girls. Notice I did not say overly generous. Just be polite and considerate and treat the girls like humans and you will enjoy the experience much more.

LexLuther

Quick request about (gasp!) non-FS tipping at DC AMPs--

I went a few times to an AMP in Bethesda before they started offering FS rather indiscriminately (and were soon busted). This was a few years ago, before Duncan & crew went on their anti-AMP rampage. As I recall, the usual tip was two Jacksons for HJ, and up.

I recall some discussions about how DC AMP providers won't even offer HJ--since they can get $100 for that same hour offering more. However, if I'm not interested in FS, can I signal that by just laying two jacksons on the table? Or will that just get me shoo'ed out the door for being cheap?

Obviously, this is all highly hypothetical and unrealistic, so please answer accordingly. Thanks.

Roman

Good Evenings Fellas..... just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00. I know you saying " He's full of shit" but i'm not... couple of my buddies went and turned me on to the info this week. the spots are hispanic ladies and some blk.... very nice looking from what i have been told and the service is out standing.... will post more info in a few days after i ck. out first hand... but you will aft to back channel me for address..... cause these are several spots we do not want to get closed down....

[QUOTE]Orginally posted by LoveLOS
[i]I need to visit Raleigh again soon, especially since you have been driving prices DOWN there! Does your post mean you are going to grace DC with your presence? Hope so, SW prices seem to be getting higher since the Trashman has not been out much lately...[/i][/QUOTE]
Don't be mistaken, LOS. I have been guilty of giving SWs 40 bucks on occasion! heh heh. But the Raleigh is still a very good place for a solid Jackson funded fuck (the bill, not the admin:)). DC is a little far but I may make it up there to take in some of those tourists sights in detail and if ya'll have me, I'll take a look around the hot-spots.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LexLuther
[i]With respect to Sgt Sad's comments: Don't kid yourself. They do search your clothes if/when you go for a shower. You can bet your ass the mamasan or one of the working girls comes into the room and goes through your clothes to see what's in there.
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Perhaps things are done a little different down here in the South since most (not all tho) of the times my clothes remained in my sight. At the very least, the door to the room where my clothes were at remained in view of my peepers. So unless they had a trick door or was crawling through a window, my clothes weren't searched. In fact, I have wondered many times that they are vulnerable to peeps that might bring in something.
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As to who's responsible for what, you just can't hold the girl responsible every time you can't come. A lot of things can cause that which are beyond the control of the provider or (certainly) the establishment. For example, certain drugs (medically prescribed or otherwise) can cause problems. Alchohol can cause problems, certain medical conditions such as diabetes, benign prostate hyperplasia, etc. I'm certainly not implying that in Karma's case it was anything other than lack of stimulation. But the point is that there are too many factors which are beyond the control of the provider to hold her responsible.
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Very true, and if it was one of those factors where it was beyond the providers control, the mongor should pay regardless of cumming. If Karma had said he was normally longwinded or had some kind of condition where he couldn't spew the spunk, I wouldn't have said it was the girls fault. But he did not so I assumed that under normal AMP services he would have no problems finishing up.
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Karma said himself that they went 15 minutes over the session. So that indicates at least some effort on the part of the provider to provide satisfaction. The efforts may have been ineffectual, but they were efforts nonetheless.
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From my experiences, going over the allotted time happens often. Lying there for an additional 15 minutes doesn't imply effort was exerted. Karma said she relied on her looks and did nothing else to get him off. For me personally, good looks can stiffen up the ol' shaft but it ain't going to shoot if she just lays there. So from what I read of the comments, it was the girl's not putting any effort into her job which caused the problem.
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I agree with Sgt. Sad that these girls chose their profession but that does not make it any more enjoyable for them. I think we need to be reasonable and kind when we deal with these girls. Notice I did not say overly generous. Just be polite and considerate and treat the girls like humans and you will enjoy the experience much more.
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Hear, hear, I'll drink to that. To being reasonable and expecting reasonable service! :D[/QUOTE]

With that said, I think we are going to the same place on the map, just taking different roads. I would feel justified in not giving her all the cash but probably still would just to keep good relations open and especially if I planned to come back.

Since I'm not really helping ya'll get that poontang, I going to refrain from commenting on this further. Your advice is sound LexLuther, I just had a [u]little[/u] difference of opinion but all is swell.

Take care gents,[blue]
Sgt. Sad[/blue]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrusgrBear
[i]Good just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00.[/i][/QUOTE]Hot damn bear! Stop hibernating and start forraging! <lol>

Check your mail dude!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ToeTapper
[i]e.g., Amber Reese, Satine, Anik, Kacey and Lila, a mix of local and visiting escorts. But the drawback is that the services are expensive [generally 250].[/i][/QUOTE]Ho-Tapper,

As we have discussed BC, I believe this board would appreciate detailed reports on escorts, which all agree is expensive pootang, but there is obviously a market... The Trashman himself has confirmed most of your intel, so fear not...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sgt. Sad
[i]I have been guilty of giving SWs 40 bucks on occasion! heh heh.[/i][/QUOTE]Sgt,

There you go, thinking with your little head. I'm gonna have to sick the Trashman on you for overpaying, but your still welcome here anytime.

LoveLOS

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveLOS
[i]Sgt,
There you go, thinking with your little head. I'm gonna have to sick the Trashman on you for overpaying, but your still welcome here anytime.[/i][/QUOTE]

heh heh, well its only happened twice in recent history. And to tell you the truth, I'm not entirely convinced I was overpaying. Had a very nice time in both cases. Plus I know I have recieved a lot more than my fair share of 'good deals.' I'm sure the Trashman would be proud! Now theres one fellow I can see eye to eye with though he may find I'm a little extreme at times.
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Sgt. Sad[/blue]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrusgrBear
[i]Good Evenings Fellas..... just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00. [/i][/QUOTE]

Where are these girls, do tell! One does not have to necessarily post, you can send email as well- hysteromania at yahoo Speak enough Spanish to win over the ladies. ;)

Will be in DC until next week and looking for some action. If not, may have to go up to Baltimore.

I have had piss poor luck lately (see Nova report). Only thing remotley of interest to report occurred around 1am Saturday morning near the 7-11 at 21st and Rhode Island.

Keisha a BSW was walking along Rte 1, didnt get a good look at her shoes as she got in my car but I think she is 5'7, or 5'8". She had D+ chest with a thin waist. Can't tell you anything about her technique cuz she wanted 40 for a CBJ - after asking 50 and refusing 30. If I'd had the time I would have explored FS options, would have loved to seen them titties bounce, but had to head home.

I heard a teaser today on the WTOP, about new laws for Massage Parlors and the Police actively enforcing them. Didn't hear were. Someone please tell me it's not so.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chip_s
[i]I heard a teaser today on the WTOP, about new laws for Massage Parlors and the Police actively enforcing them. Didn't hear were. Someone please tell me it's not so. [/i][/QUOTE]The story you heard was about the new law took effect Saturday in Waldorf (Charles County) MD. The following is a link to the Post article. Fou us AMP mongers this could be a bid loss. Please pass on any info on recent visits.
Thanks in advance,
Crazy Dick

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17347-2003Jul19.html

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chip_s
[i]I heard a teaser today on the WTOP, about new laws for Massage Parlors and the Police actively enforcing them. Didn't hear were. Someone please tell me it's not so. [/i][/QUOTE]

The story was about Prince William County in Virginia. Seems that local politicos want all adult video stores and other 'sex industry' businesses to install video cameras at their entrances, and LE would be able to request and review all those tapes at any time (without a warrant?). Seems like simple harassment to me. One video store owner has hired the guy who defends Larry Flynt to fight the proposal (not sure if it's already an ordinance or not).

Roman

Easy initiates a Newbie.

As I posted before I came into Dc this weekend from Richmond va to cover a concert at FedEx field. Before I left I posted to ask for some directions to some action. I received a good bit of info, (thanks again guys), and I made sure to get all of the directions straight and all of my monger etiquitte down.

Just a tip to anyone who has not had the expirience as of yet. Knowing EXACTLY where you are going, and what steps you need to take to get good service, is a BIG problem solver, as you will see later.

As this trip was business related, the group of co-workers I was with was allowed to rent 2 cars between the 5 of us. I was fortunate in that I had an easy job that didn't require a great deal of time invovement. I fuguresd that I could visit Downtown and 1818, one on a friday evening, the other on a sat afternon. The only problem was that I had a "tag along". I have a habit of always finding a good time ,(bars clubs and so on),when we travel, and this (fairly cool), guy decided he wanted to be a part of it. Long story short, after some halfhearted attempts to get rid of him before I left I simply told him I was ging to get a massage. Because my buddy knows me well enough, he decided the whole deal was a jack shack and that he was in.

Since he was cool enough I told him the "rules" of the massage parlours, and drove from 50 into NY ave. (thanks again for the info), and did the 1818 thing. I gave him a 15 minute head start and went in. Thanks to you all my session went off without a hitch. I was nice to the mamasan, pleasant to the lady, put the $$$in plain view, and when the time came, so did I. Good deal. I went back to the car and my buddy is there with a 5h!t eating grin on him because he got more than he expected.

We went back, finished the job, and crashed. The next morning my buddy asks me what we are gonna go in the afternoon. I tell him I am gonna do some shopping and get another massage. He decides to tag along agin, and we end up downtown. This time I skip all the rules, (because I figure he knows the drill now), and just let him follow me. My session was again exellent. I have Mai (sp? sounds like the word "my"), who has nice tits and the most perfect ass I have seen in a while. This lady was so nice I forgot the actual massage part was supposed to start things off. Mai kindly reminds me, "massage 1st" and leads my by the convenient handle I have grown from place to place. When we got down to the deed, she was enthusiastic and skilled. She even let me slip a finger in her @$$...... Cool. I now am offically jealous of people who live here. Unfortunately my buddy does not have the same expirience. It seems he did not follow the "rules" and overtipped for underservice. Feeling like a true DC monger at this point I cussed him out and put him on a partial ban with me until he learns how to act properly.

The next time I come up there its gonna be pleasure not business beleive me. I just WISH we had this anywhere NEAR Richmond.

Hey! Do what I do and take it ....
Easy as 1-2-3

Easy,

If you were at Downtown Saturday nite, it sounds like you had Maya...Lucky dude, she's one of the best and often difficult to find available since she's very much in demand among the regulars. I know you had a great time! So you've learned the (sometimes miserable) trip up I-95 can most rewarding! BTW I spent the weekend in Richmond and couldn't wait to get back up here!
Happy Hunting

XSailor

New girl at Downtown: Yung. I was her third customer ever.

You know, there are pluses and minuses to being in that position. You can indulge the fantasy that you're tapping some reasonably untilled soil, to mix a metaphor or two. And she is gorgeous: creamy skin, nice full C-cup natural tits, about 5'4", maybe 110#, and she could walk down any high school corridor in the country unchallenged, except perhaps by a hall monitor for a bathroom pass.

But some of the niceties that come from experience just weren't there: no rimming; very little crack-play at all, in fact; and the f-ck wasn't bad, but she didn't quite know how to get in the rhythm and I had to pretty much move her hips for her. She was trying, don't get me wrong - no dead fish here. But she just wasn't a polished humper.

Like I said, pluses and minuses.

I'll ask for her again the next time, though, so at least for this monger, the pluses outweighed the minuses.

Bysshe

I have tried to keep the info for AMPS updated. Added addresses for each establishment with credit given to the poster for this important intel. This list gives dates of reports and poster's handles to simplify RTFF. Ordered by number of reports. Girls may be gone if report is older than a day or two:

[b]Downtown:
1018 Vermont Ave NW 4th Floor[/b] - Mighty Spearsman 11/22/02
Yung - LoveLOS 7/25
Yung - Bysshe 7/22
Mai (Maya) - Easyas123 7/21
Mimi - LoveLOS 7/9
???? - Toe Tapper 7/9
Mimi - xsailor 7/2
CiCi (ShiShi?) - Unix Boy 7/1
Mimi - - LoveLOS 6/30
ShiShi - xsailor 6/10
Laura - LoveLOS 6/3
????? - Wendigo 6/2
Sony - LoveLOS 5/26
Paula - TrashMan 5/24
Coco, Julie, Maya - balabon38 5/22
Vicki - NoLatex 5/11 & 5/17
Julie - balabon38 5/7
Coco & Julie - xsailor 5/2
Coco - xsailor 3/20
Coco - xsailor 3/14
Kitty - Nova Guy 2/24
May - Mighty Spearsman 2/14

[b]CPHC:
3433 33rd Place[/b] - Logan Lurker 6/24
[b]Connecticut and Porter sort of across from Unos[/b] - Trashman 5/21
Barbie - Black 6/12
???? - fordster - 6/1
Yung - NoLatex 5/17
Yung - Hunters 5/13
Sue - TrashMan 12/27

[b]Supra:
Dupont & 1333 Connecticut 4th floor[/b] - TrusgrBear 4/15
Sarah - Here I Am 7/16
????? - dumbass 6/3
????? - fordster 5/2
????? - jackdredz 4/27
Chi Chi - TrusgrBear 4/15

[b]Olympic:
1936 9th Street NW[/b] - LoveLOS 7/23
Yoyo - LoveLOS 6/30
Lucy & Gina - LoveLOS 6/3
Mimi & Cherry - LoveLOS 5/2
Annie (now mamasan) - LoveLOS 2/12

[b]IHC or Mini Health Club (1818):
1818 NY Ave NE[/b] - KarmaSX & thepunter7216 4/16
????? - Easyas123 7/21
Sandy & Sofia - ravensfan 5/26
Sophia - KarmaSX 5/9

[b]Sun Spa
1829 M Street 3rd Floor[/b] - Mighty Spearsman 7/18
Jenni - KarmaSX 7/15
Cindy - Mighty Spearsman 2/18
Cindy - Mighty Spearsman 8/2/02

[b]ICM (non-Asian):
1829 M Street 2nd Floor[/b] - Mighty Spearsman 7/18
Emily - Happy Day 3/18
Tony - Maxwell 3/17

[b]Castle Spa:
1716 I Street, NW[/b] - Mighty Spearsman 7/17
Jay - Mighty Spearsman 7/17
Yung - LoveLOS 6/3

[b]First Tanning Salon:
521 G St Nw[/b] - Logan Lurker 6/4
Gina - KarmaSX 2/16

[b]ACCU FITNESS
4380 MACARTHUR BLVD NW[/b] - LoveLOS 7/16
????? - Frogger 7/9 & 7/16

[b]H & H (non-Asian):
4652 Wisconsin Ave[/b] - Happy Day 3/31
Emily - Happy Day 3/31

[b]Sun Club
701 6th Street, NW, 2nd Floor[/b] - Mighty Spearsman 7/18
*** REPORT NEEDED ***

[b]Mirage Health Spa
617 K Street Northwest[/b] - Logan Lurker 6/4
*** REPORT NEEDED ***

[b]New World Spa
602 11th St NW[/b] - Logan Lurker 6/4
*** REPORT NEEDED ***

Please advise of corrections or omissions. I do want to make it perfectly clear to all readers that no illegal activities occur at the AMPS listed above. The providers do not give massages any more, rather it is muscular stretch training. Very healthy I think. Rumors of sexual services that are noted in some of the reports highlighted are pure rubbish. The writers are obviously pumping their pathetic egos by telling others that they actually had sex with their trainer - everyone knows that is total Bullshit because it simply does not happen.

LoveLOS