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[QUOTE=Joel259;2811604]Let me know when the court date is when you testify. I want to hear that story you give in front of a judge. LOL This could be epic.[/QUOTE]Would be fun to get a bunch of us in there and heckle the vice cops. No respect for them at all. That is the arm of the cops that don't have the balls to face real criminals so they lord over people commiting moral offenses.
They are not too different than the muslim thugs that patrol in the middle east.
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;2813949]No, I just don't give a shit about valets and they know this. I held out the ten and said, "I don't let anyone drive my car. I'll park it myself. " When it was obvious he was about to object, I didn't let him answer and said "Oh well guess I'll head someplace else," and started backing my car up. He then immediately changed his attitude and said to park near the back. That's same exact tactic I use on used car salesmen, and Insurance Agents. You got to understand two things. First the club owners and management want you in the club spending your money, if you are not there they make no money. The second thing is no one works as a valet attended because that is his goal in life. He works as a valet attendant because that's the only job he can get, and knows that if he drives too many customers away he will get fired. You understand those two facts, and they can tell you know this, and you usually get no argument. The few times I do get an argument I leave.
The only time so far I was ever turned away from parking my own car and parked elsewhere and was confronted about this was at Deja Vu in Vegas. When the polite but stupid idiot wouldn't let me park my own car, I just drove across the street, to the shopping mall and walked to the club. The same idiot valet tried to tell I couldn't get away with parking somewhere else and I just walked right past him and the doorman let me in no question. The parking for two hours in the mall was 1/6 the valet parking fee at the strip club.[/QUOTE]Love it. Great advice.
For those looking to use this wisdom, remember that you never want to escalate any situation further than you need to get what you want. Just push it when you have to, with the knowledge of how much further you can push it, and what your out is. Don't ever be rude, but do assert your reasoned position.
Was trying to set up a date in Madison Hts on my way up there. Escort never called back (texted "missed call" but didn't respond to call or texts).
Stopped at Subis for a warm up. I have only been offered extras there once and it was overpriced, but figured a lap dance or two wouldn't be bad. Got a lackluster dance.
From one girl and hit the road.
I hit Players about 11 pm. Very Crowded and with coat check, $13 to get in. Couldn't find a table, but found one with empty glasses. Never got offered a drink. Young lady (Alena?
Came up and said her real name was Sissy. VERY talkative blonde, so I agreed to a lap dance. Once in the room she said she liked this place more than all the others because of the curtains.
And because there were no cameras and we could do whatever we wanted. She pretty much offered everything, but I said I like blowjobs, so she took off my pants and gave me a BBBJ, CIM.
Spit. Not the best I've ever head, but not bad. Given the warm-up dance and songs it took, I handed her $120 thinking it was fair and hoping she wouldn't make an issue. She almost seemed.
Happy it was that much.
Normally girls negotiate beforehand (or during). I mean, what if I only had 50 dollars in my wallet? I would have gone back tonight, but I was busy.
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;2813949]No, I just don't give a shit about valets and they know this. I held out the ten and said, "I don't let anyone drive my car. I'll park it myself. " When it was obvious he was about to object, I didn't let him answer and said "Oh well guess I'll head someplace else," and started backing my car up. He then immediately changed his attitude and said to park near the back. That's same exact tactic I use on used car salesmen, and Insurance Agents. You got to understand two things. First the club owners and management want you in the club spending your money, if you are not there they make no money. The second thing is no one works as a valet attended because that is his goal in life. He works as a valet attendant because that's the only job he can get, and knows that if he drives too many customers away he will get fired. You understand those two facts, and they can tell you know this, and you usually get no argument. The few times I do get an argument I leave.
[/QUOTE]Yep. I'm in full agreement of taking care of your own ride. Honestly, I don't even use their lot if I don't have to, especially for clubs in and near Detroit, as there is usually plenty of street parking. The neighborhood would have to be exceptionally sketchy for me to choose the valet (and be a night visit).
And while I do agree about point 1, that clubs want you inside to spend, I don't think point 2 is accurate, as I don't think the club owners would know if the valet is "driving" a customer away. But I don't know how valets, strip club or otherwise, work. Is it a contracted thing where the valet revenue is separate from the club, or is it all together?
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;2806844]You had the correct understanding. She just ran a little scam on you. I never mention to the girl that this is the total price, no other charges for dances. No need to, if she says ok to a hummer for a benji, then that's what it is. I like to get my money all in one pocket, with an extra 10 for the wrist band guy. Then I can claim its all the money I have (the rest of my money is in my other pocket). These girls will back down in a second. The bouncers know the girls run scams. I'm not trying to be hard on you, I just want to give you my take. Anyway, good useful report.[/QUOTE]Didn't think you were being hard on me, man. Much appreciate your comments. Was there tonight and so was she. She approached me for a moment, said hello and that she would stop back after she took care of a few things. I was looking forward to talking to her. Next time she went by she had another guy with her so I figure it will have to wait until next time. I don't expect anything but I do want to let her know I think she owes be a trip to the back for. 8 for what she pulled. Just want to see what she says.
[QUOTE=Wleakr;2815132]Yep. I'm in full agreement of taking care of your own ride. Honestly, I don't even use their lot if I don't have to, especially for clubs in and near Detroit, as there is usually plenty of street parking. The neighborhood would have to be exceptionally sketchy for me to choose the valet (and be a night visit).
And while I do agree about point 1, that clubs want you inside to spend, I don't think point 2 is accurate, as I don't think the club owners would know if the valet is "driving" a customer away. But I don't know how valets, strip club or otherwise, work. Is it a contracted thing where the valet revenue is separate from the club, or is it all together?[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I parked in the grocery store lot behind BT's Detroit (f / k / a Tycoon's) and started walking toward the club entrance from the street, but was stopped by the valet who must have seen where I parked. The valet tried to give me shit about customers being required to valet their cars. I ignored the valet, but when I came out a few hours later, I saw that my front windshield had been shot by a BB pistol, which left a nice spider web of cracks all over the right side. I have to believe that it was the valet because no other car in the grocery store parking lot had any cracked windshields.
First timer doing VIP at SC. I have RTF and know all about SP's. But, still shocked that 1. 0 at place on Ave. In Inkster was able to get BBBJ, RCG, with finish BBBJ. I was really drunk, part of my excuse, but shocked it was all bare. Hopefully she killed any vag shit with saliva. For the life of me I can't remember her name. Dark haired with be cups. I will repeat as it is much safer from LE than SW right now. Good night out for 2. 0 after door fee, steak bits, beers, wristband, and good dance. Is the bare thing rare and is there any way I was lucky enough that she slipped a rubber on in my drunken state? I always do BBBJ but never BFS. Will not repeat such an error in judgement. I was giving he pro too much credit when it really is just a SW with a stage.
[QUOTE=Spartan99;2815379]First timer doing VIP at SC. I have RTF and know all about SP's. But, still shocked that 1. 0 at place on Ave. In Inkster was able to get BBBJ, RCG, with finish BBBJ. I was really drunk, part of my excuse, but shocked it was all bare. Hopefully she killed any vag shit with saliva. For the life of me I can't remember her name. Dark haired with be cups. I will repeat as it is much safer from LE than SW right now. Good night out for 2. 0 after door fee, steak bits, beers, wristband, and good dance. Is the bare thing rare and is there any way I was lucky enough that she slipped a rubber on in my drunken state? I always do BBBJ but never BFS. Will not repeat such an error in judgement. I was giving he pro too much credit when it really is just a SW with a stage.[/QUOTE]The County Health Department is FREE but skips tests when the issue has no known cure. A full 10 panel test is about $209 and takes a few minutes online and less than ten minutes at a clinic. TOTALY anonymous.
[URL]STDCHECK.com[/URL] has info on incubation periods. Some are very short, say 48 hours, other longer. For some scary perspective, One in Six adults have HERPES.
[QUOTE=EmilioLargo;2815278]A few years ago, I parked in the grocery store lot behind BT's Detroit (f / k / a Tycoon's) and started walking toward the club entrance from the street, but was stopped by the valet who must have seen where I parked. The valet tried to give me shit about customers being required to valet their cars. I ignored the valet, but when I came out a few hours later, I saw that my front windshield had been shot by a BB pistol, which left a nice spider web of cracks all over the right side. I have to believe that it was the valet because no other car in the grocery store parking lot had any cracked windshields.[/QUOTE]That would make me want to put a bb pellet thru the valet. That is enraging. Did you get revenge? Complain to the club mgmt / call the police. perhaps they could have searched the valet stand for a BB gun. Club mgmt might care if their valets are driving away customers.
[QUOTE=LazarusII;2815415]The County Health Department is FREE but skips tests when the issue has no known cure. A full 10 panel test is about $209 and takes a few minutes online and less than ten minutes at a clinic. TOTALY anonymous.
[URL]STDCHECK.com[/URL] has info on incubation periods. Some are very short, say 48 hours, other longer. For some scary perspective, One in Six adults have HERPES.[/QUOTE]"1 in 6 adults have herpes" LOL I'm not sure where you get that stat from but it's much much higher than that. On another note, there's two types of herpes.
Herpes 1 (cold sores), and herpes 2 (genital herpes) most or if not all people have herpes 1 and it remains dormant until your immune system dips and it'll cause an outbreak. Same applies to herps 2, but herps two is on your gentals.
Herps 1 typically transfer by kissing etc, herps 2 is through dick / vaginal introcourse.
Knowing that, it's rare to have herps 2 on your mouth, and herps 1 on genital. So don't be afraid of BBBJ, it's not common for sti to transfer through BJ. Just make sure to use a jimmy and pick and choose carefully. Stay 100 mongers.
[QUOTE=Jackknoff;2816188]That would make me want to put a bb pellet thru the valet. That is enraging. Did you get revenge? Complain to the club mgmt / call the police. perhaps they could have searched the valet stand for a BB gun. Club mgmt might care if their valets are driving away customers.[/QUOTE]How about just pay the few bucks to valet park like the club requires? IMO not worth trying to prove a point, win an argument with a valet dude, make enemies, ect, over a few bucks.
[QUOTE=Jackknoff;2816188]That would make me want to put a bb pellet thru the valet. That is enraging. Did you get revenge? Complain to the club mgmt / call the police. perhaps they could have searched the valet stand for a BB gun. Club mgmt might care if their valets are driving away customers.[/QUOTE]I went to the dollar store and just walk toward the parking lot and was stop for parking there by the valet he want the price to park I told him I did not park in there lot so I would not pay any way he went to management they told me to pay him but they bought be two beers.
Anyone know what happened to this place? Drove by a few times in the past two months & looks like it was shut down. Never any cars in the lot and orange tags on the vallet booth and main door.
I assume they got raided, but just curious if anyone new. It used to be a very fun club when I would drop in after work. Any idea where the dancers are now?
[QUOTE=Wleakr;2815132]Yep. I'm in full agreement of taking care of your own ride. Honestly, I don't even use their lot if I don't have to, especially for clubs in and near Detroit, as there is usually plenty of street parking. The neighborhood would have to be exceptionally sketchy for me to choose the valet (and be a night visit).
And while I do agree about point 1, that clubs want you inside to spend, I don't think point 2 is accurate, as I don't think the club owners would know if the valet is "driving" a customer away. But I don't know how valets, strip club or otherwise, work. Is it a contracted thing where the valet revenue is separate from the club, or is it all together?[/QUOTE]I am not sure how it is in Detroit, but in many cases the Valet is a separate entity from the strip club. It depends on the owners and the city. Regardless the owners can tell if the valet is keeping customers away. The easiest way is to monitor the security cameras in the parking lot.
[QUOTE=Maho1;2816378]How about just pay the few bucks to valet park like the club requires? IMO not worth trying to prove a point, win an argument with a valet dude, make enemies, ect, over a few bucks.[/QUOTE]Most likely the valet attendant was the one who shot up the windshield. Your best bet is to call the cops on it, and report the damage to your insurance company. Doing nothing just allows idiot like that to keep getting away with it.