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Enjoying TJ. The Basics
[QUOTE=Ump1969;5430495]I suspect this guy had a bad experience or two. Nothing he says matches up with any of my many TJ visits over the years. To begin with, you won't find talent on Ave Revolucion. They cleaned it up years ago in hopes of getting the tourists back, based on media reports of how dangerous it was. All you'll get on that street is souvenirs. Yes, the price of ladies has gone up. You'll still do better than across the border. He contradicts himself. Will you find nothing but fugglies or the hottest that cost too much? It's not likely to get ripped off or knifed if you follow basic common sense safety rules. I could go on, but I think everyone gets my point. I am not that negative about TJ. And hot is often in the high of the beholder. Ordinary looking street girls in TJ still beat the hell out of emaciated drugged out wackos on American streets.[/QUOTE]I have to chime in on this one. Border Mexico is inherently more dangerous than most places I've traveled, even Colombia. The biggest concern for me has always been that steering clear of the cops is a bigger concern than the rateros. That being said, I lived in San Diego for 20 years and traveled to Zona Norte dozens of times for the sole purpose of mongering. While I've had a few unsettling 'incidents,' I've also had some of the best mongering experiences of my life. It's one of my favorite places on earth for seeking carnal pleasures and I recommend it highly to almost anyone. This is not intended to be a comprehensive list, but here are a few pointers for having a good experience in TJ: 1) Exchange your dollars for pesos before crossing. Working in pesos will give you a more favorable rate for everything you purchase. 2) Cross as a pedestrian and take a taxi to the Zona for $5. Tell the driver you will give him $5 for a ride to the Zona before you get in or else he may try to charge you more. Don't skimp on the $5 by walking to the Zona. The vast majority of robberies occur on or near the pedestrian bridge to the Zona even though it happens infrequently. You will circumvent this peril altogether by taking a taxi to and from the border crossing. 3) DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BUY DRUGS IN THE ZONA. You may like to party and let loose, but this is the number one way to find trouble in TJ both with thugs and with the policia. People will offer everything under the sun, but just say, "No thank you. " 4) To that point, do not accept "Help" from anyone who offers it. In addition to drugs, someone might offer you access to women or god knows what else. Kindly decline and keep moving. Don't make "friends" in the Zona. 5) Another rule I observe, not just in TJ but everywhere I travel, is to keep walking. Don't loiter too long. If you're scoping out the paraditas in the alley of Coahuila, it's fine to stop and talk to them along the way (hopefully you speak some Spanish). Just don't stand there too long for no good reason. Don't stand anywhere too long for no reason as it draws attention to your presence. If you need to relax take a break, or take a piss, step inside one of the bars or clubs like Hong Kong, Adelitas, etc. Order a beer and recharge you batteries. 6) Don't venture more than a block from the Zona in any direction. Believe it or not, the Zona is protected by the cartels. They prohibit street thugs from interfering in their operations. The protected area applies strictly to the Zona which is why you should never walk to or from the border. The perimeter of the Zona is where most of the danger lies. Of course this is not absolute. Anything can happen at any time so stay on alert. 7) Don't walk around with your smartphone in your hand, and never let a woman use your phone. One of the common scams is that a woman will wait until you're naked or otherwise indisposed, then ask if she can use your phone. The moment you give it to her, she'll bolt out the door and you'll never see her again. 8) Don't drink too much. This is the easiest way to be taken advantage of.
There are more tips and tricks, but this is enough for now. The Zona offers a vast array of beautiful chicas, young to old, sexy to skanky, whatever meets your taste. The prices are so low that you can have 5 sexual experiences for about $100 if you're targeting street girls. The ultra hot chicks at HK are typically between $60-$100/ session depending on your negotiating skills. Be safe, and have fun.
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The Zona these days is fairly safe these days. But it is important never to let your guard down. Always look to see who is walking behind you. The pedestrian bridge is fairly safe. There is almost always other people crossing the bridge. It is a good idea to avoid the stairs. The problem is that the walls are high on the stairs. So you will not be seen if the bandito's rob you. You can also take Uber or taxi vans. The taxi vans go to 4th & Madero. So it is a 3 block walk to the Zona.
[QUOTE=DannyDavis;5450978]I have to chime in on this one. Border Mexico is inherently more dangerous than most places I've traveled, even Colombia. The biggest concern for me has always been that steering clear of the cops is a bigger concern than the rateros. That being said, I lived in San Diego for 20 years and traveled to Zona Norte dozens of times for the sole purpose of mongering. While I've had a few unsettling 'incidents,' I've also had some of the best mongering experiences of my life. It's one of my favorite places on earth for seeking carnal pleasures and I recommend it highly to almost anyone. This is not intended to be a comprehensive list, but here are a few pointers for having a good experience in TJ: 1) Exchange your dollars for pesos before crossing. Working in pesos will give you a more favorable rate for everything you purchase. 2) Cross as a pedestrian and take a taxi to the Zona for $5. Tell the driver you will give him $5 for a ride to the Zona before you get in or else he may try to charge you more. Don't skimp on the $5 by walking to the Zona. The vast majority of robberies occur on or near the pedestrian bridge to the Zona even though it happens infrequently. You will circumvent this peril altogether by taking a taxi to and from the border crossing. 3) DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BUY DRUGS IN THE ZONA. You may like to party and let loose, but this is the number one way to find trouble in TJ both with thugs and with the policia. People will offer everything under the sun, but just say, "No thank you. " 4) To that point, do not accept "Help" from anyone who offers it. In addition to drugs, someone might offer you access to women or god knows what else. Kindly decline and keep moving. Don't make "friends" in the Zona. 5) Another rule I observe, not just in TJ but everywhere I travel, is to keep walking. Don't loiter too long. If you're scoping out the paraditas in the alley of Coahuila, it's fine to stop and talk to them along the way (hopefully you speak some Spanish). Just don't stand there too long for no good reason. Don't stand anywhere too long for no reason as it draws attention to your presence. If you need to relax take a break, or take a piss, step inside one of the bars or clubs like Hong Kong, Adelitas, etc. Order a beer and recharge you batteries. 6) Don't venture more than a block from the Zona in any direction. Believe it or not, the Zona is protected by the cartels. They prohibit street thugs from interfering in their operations. The protected area applies strictly to the Zona which is why you should never walk to or from the border. The perimeter of the Zona is where most of the danger lies. Of course this is not absolute. Anything can happen at any time so stay on alert. 7) Don't walk around with your smartphone in your hand, and never let a woman use your phone. One of the common scams is that a woman will wait until you're naked or otherwise indisposed, then ask if she can use your phone. The moment you give it to her, she'll bolt out the door and you'll never see her again. 8) Don't drink too much. This is the easiest way to be taken advantage of.
There are more tips and tricks, but this is enough for now. The Zona offers a vast array of beautiful chicas, young to old, sexy to skanky, whatever meets your taste. The prices are so low that you can have 5 sexual experiences for about $100 if you're targeting street girls. The ultra hot chicks at HK are typically between $60-$100/ session depending on your negotiating skills. Be safe, and have fun.[/QUOTE]
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Curiousity Question
[QUOTE=DannyDavis;5450978]I have to chime in on this one. Border Mexico is inherently more dangerous than most places I've traveled, even Colombia. The biggest concern for me has always been that steering clear of the cops is a bigger concern than the rateros. That being said, I lived in San Diego for 20 years and traveled to Zona Norte dozens of times for the sole purpose of mongering. While I've had a few unsettling 'incidents,' I've also had some of the best mongering experiences of my life. It's one of my favorite places on earth for seeking carnal pleasures and I recommend it highly to almost anyone. This is not intended to be a comprehensive list, but here are a few pointers for having a good experience in TJ: 1) Exchange your dollars for pesos before crossing. Working in pesos will give you a more favorable rate for everything you purchase. 2) Cross as a pedestrian and take a taxi to the Zona for $5. Tell the driver you will give him $5 for a ride to the Zona before you get in or else he may try to charge you more. Don't skimp on the $5 by walking to the Zona. The vast majority of robberies occur on or near the pedestrian bridge to the Zona even though it happens infrequently. You will circumvent this peril altogether by taking a taxi to and from the border crossing. 3) DO NOT ATTEMPT TO BUY DRUGS IN THE ZONA. You may like to party and let loose, but this is the number one way to find trouble in TJ both with thugs and with the policia. People will offer everything under the sun, but just say, "No thank you. " 4) To that point, do not accept "Help" from anyone who offers it. In addition to drugs, someone might offer you access to women or god knows what else. Kindly decline and keep moving. Don't make "friends" in the Zona. 5) Another rule I observe, not just in TJ but everywhere I travel, is to keep walking. Don't loiter too long. If you're scoping out the paraditas in the alley of Coahuila, it's fine to stop and talk to them along the way (hopefully you speak some Spanish). Just don't stand there too long for no good reason. Don't stand anywhere too long for no reason as it draws attention to your presence. If you need to relax take a break, or take a piss, step inside one of the bars or clubs like Hong Kong, Adelitas, etc. Order a beer and recharge you batteries. 6) Don't venture more than a block from the Zona in any direction. Believe it or not, the Zona is protected by the cartels. They prohibit street thugs from interfering in their operations. The protected area applies strictly to the Zona which is why you should never walk to or from the border. The perimeter of the Zona is where most of the danger lies. Of course this is not absolute. Anything can happen at any time so stay on alert. 7) Don't walk around with your smartphone in your hand, and never let a woman use your phone. One of the common scams is that a woman will wait until you're naked or otherwise indisposed, then ask if she can use your phone. The moment you give it to her, she'll bolt out the door and you'll never see her again. 8) Don't drink too much. This is the easiest way to be taken advantage of.
There are more tips and tricks, but this is enough for now. The Zona offers a vast array of beautiful chicas, young to old, sexy to skanky, whatever meets your taste. The prices are so low that you can have 5 sexual experiences for about $100 if you're targeting street girls. The ultra hot chicks at HK are typically between $60-$100/ session depending on your negotiating skills. Be safe, and have fun.[/QUOTE]So you say the Cartel protects the Zona, Correct? If so does that mean the cops won't bother you in the Zona or?
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[QUOTE=Joesun1;5451994]So you say the Cartel protects the Zona, Correct? If so does that mean the cops won't bother you in the Zona or?[/QUOTE]It's been a while since I've been to TJ but I never had any problems, cops or otherwise. Of course I never did anything stupid as well. LOL.
The Zona being "protected" by the cartels made me think of Boystown in Nuevo Laredo. It's literally a walled in compound with cops at the entrance. Talk about keeping the playground safe. LOL.
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The cartels have a agreement to avoid violence in the Zona and in the tourist areas of TJ. There is still some low level drug dealers in TJ. Most of them hang out on Constitucion between the alley and Cohuilla st on the East side It is really ridiculous how openly the dealers operate.
[QUOTE=MNeiman;5452426]It's been a while since I've been to TJ but I never had any problems, cops or otherwise. Of course I never did anything stupid as well. LOL.
The Zona being "protected" by the cartels made me think of Boystown in Nuevo Laredo. It's literally a walled in compound with cops at the entrance. Talk about keeping the playground safe. LOL.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Joesun1;5451994]So you say the Cartel protects the Zona, Correct? If so does that mean the cops won't bother you in the Zona or?[/QUOTE]Well I will be in vegas soon and came to check on the SG scene. And bam all this TJ talk. And yes TJ is a great place to take a trip to, a mongers paradise without flying half way around the world. I'm there almost every weekend so I will chime in on a couple things.
Danny offers a lot of good info. As far as zona cops. Keep in mind for them getting assigned to the zona norte area is a big payday for them. They are exposed to all the sex tourists with pockets full of money. They do not like lights or cameras. So many of the shakedowns occur in the fringe areas.
One shakedown that has become a little to common is working in cahoots with a taxi driver. They will pull your cab over and leave the driver alone and will only be concerned with finding a way to extract money from you. A rather new tactic is to tell you they need to check your cell phone. If they find porn or nudes they will tell you that you have violated a serious mexican law and could be looking at serious prison time. And guys this has happened to are usually happy to get out of this one by paying a bribe. So keep your phones clean.
I will disagree with Danny on this one. When leaving the zona always go to the valet stand in front of HK and get the zona shuttle free ride to the border and just tip the driver a few dollars. While they act like its a perk with the HK VIP card. It is available to anyone. They may rarely ask for the VIP card if you don't have one just tell them you were a guest of the hotel. And they won't check any further. If you are walking into TJ and you see the HK limo or town car waiting it will take you right to the zona. It is just not worth waiting for if its not there. In that case catch a $5 dollar taxi to the zona. Just be sure to make it clear before you get in " $5 to Hong Kong." I have never heard of cab shakedowns going in to the zona, only leaving.
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HK Shuttle
[QUOTE=RoscoRules;5455475] When leaving the zona always go to the valet stand in front of HK and get the zona shuttle free ride to the border and just tip the driver a few dollars.[/QUOTE]This is a great inside tip as I have never taken the HK free shuttle, even when I had the HK card one year. I'll definitely try it out soon.
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Slowing down in Vegas
I'm simply wasting way too much time on the streets and online here, it's become extremely difficult to find quality providers. Went to LA last weekend, it was incredible. Stayed in Barstow on Friday since I was working in the area. Of course nothing there so I just crashed. Woke up really early and thought about maybe hitting up something in the IE before heading into LA.
I found Sky in Victorville, $. 6 incall. Not bad and I could immediately leave if the pics were fake / old. They were not and this girl was spectacular! Great way to start my visit. When I got to town, I immediately hit the stroll on Fig, it was about 4 pm, I vowed not to go out there at night ever again. At 4 pm, girls were starting to hit the streets. As soon as I hit the stroll, I spot Aliyah, I was shocked to see a SW this hot on the streets. I pulled her over, she was really cool, not ghetto and really, really hot. I started thinking it was TGTBT so I got her number for later. I continued on and a few miles down the road spotted a SW with the one of the hottest, nastiest bodies I've ever seen. It took a lot of convincing getting her to talk to a black man but she finally did. Luckily for me the pimps were out harassing girls, she asked me for a ride, hell yeah get in. On our way I asked what was going on with her, she said she never comes out at night anymore, too dangerous and busy. Great, we planned on hooking up later that night.
Got to my hotel, showered, called Aliyah, she did not answer, surprise, surprise. Called the hot body SW, her name was Diamond, no answer! Oh well. Started looking online, found dozens of possibilities. Found Jenna, she was right down the street and had over 100 review, all positive. She picked right up, had a wonderful personality and was asking for $. 8. Went to see her, had an incredible time. What a nasty sweetheart! So now it's 7 pm and I'm pretty much done! Went and grabbed some food and drink, back to the hotel, we sleep by 10. Woke up at 3 am, looked at my phone there were 9 missed calls and 5 text messages all from Aliyah and Diamond! Well I wasn't planning on leaving until 7 or so, WTH, batteries recharged and I was ready to go. Called Diamond, no answer. Called Aliyah, she picked up and was also very close to me. Had her come over and also had an incredible time with her, she was a bit tipsy which led to a 2 hr intense multi pop session for $6! Left at about 7, was on the freeway near the stroll heading out of town and guess who calls? Diamond!! Damn, she's the one I wanted the most but Aliyah completely drained me and I wasn't ready for another round. Man, I haven't had an experience like that in Vegas in years. Wasted very little time and saw 3 hotties in 24 hrs.
I'm considering heading back tomorrow!
Aliyah [URL]https://adultsearch.com/california/los-angeles/female-escorts/2100153[/URL].
Jenna [URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/California/Torrance/JennaBell[/URL].
Sky [URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/64790841/5622436428[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Dac007;5460259]I'm simply wasting way too much time on the streets and online here, it's become extremely difficult to find quality providers. Went to LA last weekend, it was incredible. Stayed in Barstow on Friday since I was working in the area. Of course nothing there so I just crashed. Woke up really early and thought about maybe hitting up something in the IE before heading into LA.
I found Sky in Victorville, $. 6 incall. Not bad and I could immediately leave if the pics were fake / old. They were not and this girl was spectacular! Great way to start my visit. When I got to town, I immediately hit the stroll on Fig, it was about 4 pm, I vowed not to go out there at night ever again. At 4 pm, girls were starting to hit the streets. As soon as I hit the stroll, I spot Aliyah, I was shocked to see a SW this hot on the streets. I pulled her over, she was really cool, not ghetto and really, really hot. I started thinking it was TGTBT so I got her number for later. I continued on and a few miles down the road spotted a SW with the one of the hottest, nastiest bodies I've ever seen. It took a lot of convincing getting her to talk to a black man but she finally did. Luckily for me the pimps were out harassing girls, she asked me for a ride, hell yeah get in. On our way I asked what was going on with her, she said she never comes out at night anymore, too dangerous and busy. Great, we planned on hooking up later that night.[/QUOTE]Okay, I'm a little rusty on the abbreviations. I know the way you guys use them varies from state to state on here. But I know what my eyes see in one of those ads. Just out of curiosity, when you say " 6", are you saying $60? Because that Aliyah chick is talking $400 for an hour, which is freaking laughable on its face. But you said your session with her came out to "$6". Does that mean $600? I'm just confused as to how you guys use these abbreviations here in Vegas, that's all. I'm still new here.
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Nope
[QUOTE=EthanX;5460964]Okay, I'm a little rusty on the abbreviations. I know the way you guys use them varies from state to state on here. But I know what my eyes see in one of those ads. Just out of curiosity, when you say " 6", are you saying $60? Because that Aliyah chick is talking $400 for an hour, which is freaking laughable on its face. But you said your session with her came out to "$6". Does that mean $600? I'm just confused as to how you guys use these abbreviations here in Vegas, that's all. I'm still new here.[/QUOTE]$. 60 equals 160 that's what we use out here.
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Glad
[QUOTE=Dac007;5460259]I'm simply wasting way too much time on the streets and online here, it's become extremely difficult to find quality providers. Went to LA last weekend, it was incredible. Stayed in Barstow on Friday since I was working in the area. Of course nothing there so I just crashed. Woke up really early and thought about maybe hitting up something in the IE before heading into LA.
I found Sky in Victorville, $. 6 incall. Not bad and I could immediately leave if the pics were fake / old. They were not and this girl was spectacular! Great way to start my visit. When I got to town, I immediately hit the stroll on Fig, it was about 4 pm, I vowed not to go out there at night ever again. At 4 pm, girls were starting to hit the streets. As soon as I hit the stroll, I spot Aliyah, I was shocked to see a SW this hot on the streets. I pulled her over, she was really cool, not ghetto and really, really hot. I started thinking it was TGTBT so I got her number for later. I continued on and a few miles down the road spotted a SW with the one of the hottest, nastiest bodies I've ever seen. It took a lot of convincing getting her to talk to a black man but she finally did. Luckily for me the pimps were out harassing girls, she asked me for a ride, hell yeah get in. On our way I asked what was going on with her, she said she never comes out at night anymore, too dangerous and busy. Great, we planned on hooking up later that night.
Got to my hotel, showered, called Aliyah, she did not answer, surprise, surprise. Called the hot body SW, her name was Diamond, no answer! Oh well. Started looking online, found dozens of possibilities. Found Jenna, she was right down the street and had over 100 review, all positive. She picked right up, had a wonderful personality and was asking for $. 8. Went to see her, had an incredible time. What a nasty sweetheart! So now it's 7 pm and I'm pretty much done! Went and grabbed some food and drink, back to the hotel, we sleep by 10. Woke up at 3 am, looked at my phone there were 9 missed calls and 5 text messages all from Aliyah and Diamond! Well I wasn't planning on leaving until 7 or so, WTH, batteries recharged and I was ready to go. Called Diamond, no answer. Called Aliyah, she picked up and was also very close to me. Had her come over and also had an incredible time with her, she was a bit tipsy which led to a 2 hr intense multi pop session for $6! Left at about 7, was on the freeway near the stroll heading out of town and guess who calls? Diamond!! Damn, she's the one I wanted the most but Aliyah completely drained me and I wasn't ready for another round. Man, I haven't had an experience like that in Vegas in years. Wasted very little time and saw 3 hotties in 24 hrs.
I'm considering heading back tomorrow![/QUOTE]You had an awesome time were any of the girls BBFS?
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[QUOTE=Joesun1;5461305]$. 60 equals 160 that's what we use out here.[/QUOTE]Ohhhhh. Okay then. Gotcha. Thanks!
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Trop
Was on trop this morning and noticed an army of streetwalkers. One in the street by the bk and easily 7 on the side street by the truck stop. It was kind of strange because they all broke off in groups. The one by the bk was chatted up by several guys.
But no takers.
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[QUOTE=EthanX;5460964]Okay, I'm a little rusty on the abbreviations. I know the way you guys use them varies from state to state on here. But I know what my eyes see in one of those ads. Just out of curiosity, when you say " 6", are you saying $60? Because that Aliyah chick is talking $400 for an hour, which is freaking laughable on its face. But you said your session with her came out to "$6". Does that mean $600? I'm just confused as to how you guys use these abbreviations here in Vegas, that's all. I'm still new here.[/QUOTE]No bro, $ represents $100, so it was $160. Oh I'm sure she's charging that much online, that's why LA is such a great place to catch them on the streets to hook up later. Unlike here, they don't have the option of working the casinos so the SW's you find there will be comparable to the CG's in Vegas, she is a prime example. When I was talking to Jenna, she told me she recently worked the strip and of course her prices were more than double. Neither of them would I have expected to meet on the streets. Man this game is crazy!
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[QUOTE=Joesun1;5461315]You had an awesome time were any of the girls BBFS?[/QUOTE]I don't do BBFS so it never came up.