Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Hairyolos;3886056]Where in pc is it located?[/QUOTE]Flamingo restaurant used to be on the second floor of this PC Business Plaza; the PCBP does appear to be "sketchy" as mentioned with referenced KB and (guessing) approximately 2-3 other KBs. Sunflower is karaoke-ready with friendly regulars, and easy ingress / egress for parking and KB; but be careful nevertheless as it is secluded enough for monkey business to easily occur. The front (Kam Hwy) door and parking would be your best bet for Sunflower as can see outside from the inside via glass door.

Was the grand opening this week? Looks like Kimberly is back running the place. I wonder what girls migrated there.

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3887737]Flamingo restaurant used to be on the second floor of this PC Business Plaza; the PCBP does appear to be "sketchy" as mentioned with referenced KB and (guessing) approximately 2-3 other KBs. Sunflower is karaoke-ready with friendly regulars, and easy ingress / egress for parking and KB; but be careful nevertheless as it is secluded enough for monkey business to easily occur. The front (Kam Hwy) door and parking would be your best bet for Sunflower as can see outside from the inside via glass door.[/QUOTE]Thanks ulchiro and mits!! Looking for someplace close to home for football season.

Waz up monger, new to this site but not the bar scene,* recent experience with a bar girl been seeing for a month, it only about the money and what they can get from you. Case in point this kbg wanted to be my gf, but very skeptical,* cause been there done that, anyway I play along being her bf, bang few times in her shared* condo, then she ask me to pay her share of the rent I agree but didn't give money yet, glad I didn't cause one night I guess she forgot she told me to pick her up after work, so I waited outside few cars from the entrance saw her coming out making out with a other customer, boy she was surprised I was there watching them, ops. Caught you. Took her home anyway told her you promise it was only me. Heard that line before. LOL. She was speakless, so I ended that one, so guys watch out. LOL, the other kbg I had caught her banging with other customer, her mistake was giving me the keys to her condo, her excuse was she had too because to make money.

Moral of this is watch out, and don't believe them it's just about the money, no matter how sincere they may sound, just have fun hooking up, no LTR.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3875344]This is funny, " you know I still have feeling for you". That remind of one incident while I was eating this KBG pussy. She was talking to her sugar daddy on the phone and told him " I have much feeling for you, I love you". I wanted to laugh out so hard, but I could not cause her sugar daddy might hear me on his end.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JusYoung;3889117]Waz up monger, new to this site but not the bar scene,* recent experience with a bar girl been seeing for a month, it only about the money and what they can get from you. Case in point this kbg wanted to be my gf, but very skeptical,* cause been there done that, anyway I play along being her bf, bang few times in her shared* condo, then she ask me to pay her share of the rent I agree but didn't give money yet, glad I didn't cause one night I guess she forgot she told me to pick her up after work, so I waited outside few cars from the entrance saw her coming out making out with a other customer, boy she was surprised I was there watching them, ops. Caught you. Took her home anyway told her you promise it was only me. Heard that line before. LOL. She was speakless, so I ended that one, so guys watch out. LOL, the other kbg I had caught her banging with other customer, her mistake was giving me the keys to her condo, her excuse was she had too because to make money.

Moral of this is watch out, and don't believe them it's just about the money, no matter how sincere they may sound, just have fun hooking up, no LTR.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me except it lasted about three months and I blew about 20 K on her. I totally regret it and stay away from hostess bars which I should have remembered in the first place but I was drunk and got caught up in the game. They act all in love with you but it's all BS!

Is Oldee still around? Haven't heard from him a long time.

[QUOTE=Ez808;3889170]Same thing happened to me except it lasted about three months and I blew about 20 K on her. I totally regret it and stay away from hostess bars which I should have remembered in the first place but I was drunk and got caught up in the game. They act all in love with you but it's all BS![/QUOTE]Oh man, you shell out lot of cash on that, what happen on that one, hope you bang her more than a few times at least.

To get some of that money you invested. LOL.

Anyway working on my next catch. Anyone got a scoop on this bartender working night at 904 Monday and Tuesday, think name is Sam or Sammy? Does she play?

Not all KBGs are con artists, but some of them are. The pros like to pick up old lonely folks and make them believe they are in love with them. Sorry you lost 20 k, lesson learned. Be careful when they tell you are the only one. Chances are they are humming other dicks beside you.

[QUOTE=Ez808;3889170]Same thing happened to me except it lasted about three months and I blew about 20 K on her. I totally regret it and stay away from hostess bars which I should have remembered in the first place but I was drunk and got caught up in the game. They act all in love with you but it's all BS![/QUOTE]

Ask for help paying for rent and car payment are old news. And usually you are not the only one they ask. Most of these BGs have multiple sugar daddy and BFs. Why you think they can afford luxury car and live at high end condo?

[QUOTE=JusYoung;3889117]Waz up monger, new to this site but not the bar scene,* recent experience with a bar girl been seeing for a month, it only about the money and what they can get from you. Case in point this kbg wanted to be my gf, but very skeptical,* cause been there done that, anyway I play along being her bf, bang few times in her shared* condo, then she ask me to pay her share of the rent I agree but didn't give money yet, glad I didn't cause one night I guess she forgot she told me to pick her up after work, so I waited outside few cars from the entrance saw her coming out making out with a other customer, boy she was surprised I was there watching them, ops. Caught you. Took her home anyway told her you promise it was only me. Heard that line before. LOL. She was speakless, so I ended that one, so guys watch out. LOL, the other kbg I had caught her banging with other customer, her mistake was giving me the keys to her condo, her excuse was she had too because to make money.

Moral of this is watch out, and don't believe them it's just about the money, no matter how sincere they may sound, just have fun hooking up, no LTR.

Be safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ez808;3889170]Same thing happened to me except it lasted about three months and I blew about 20 K on her. I totally regret it and stay away from hostess bars which I should have remembered in the first place but I was drunk and got caught up in the game. They act all in love with you but it's all BS![/QUOTE]To back up the KBG's early in the game they might have had some feelings for their LVB's but got burned. Imagine they falling for a guy ands after giving it up they get dump. Or she see someone for a long time then all of a sudden ghost her and find someone else.

[QUOTE=TrueTemper;3889277]To back up the KBG's early in the game they might have had some feelings for their LVB's but got burned. Imagine they falling for a guy ands after giving it up they get dump. Or she see someone for a long time then all of a sudden ghost her and find someone else.[/QUOTE]I am just viewing the KBG's standpoint. But in order to stay in the business they always got to remember they do it for the money and got to separate their emotions. On the other hand us LVB's are always thinking of them and can't wait to see them again. Most of it is lust versus love. I hear some stories of LVB's that sounds exactly how I think. So most guys are clingy and weak once you become addicted to a KBG.

[QUOTE=Hairyolos;3888203]Thanks ulchiro and mits!! Looking for someplace close to home for football season.[/QUOTE]Yup. Potentially dangerous area. Police station on Waimano Home Rd, too. I used to see checkpoints under the freeway on Kam Hwy.

For the most part, the girls are mercenaries. However, sometimes when they let their guard down, you can woo them. This is Darwinism's survival of the fittest, KB style. The fittest guy is the one with the most money, not the nicest or best looking one. Unfortunately, some KBGs have chosen the wrong one. He looks like he has money because he spends a lot on her. Of course he spends money, it is because he wants something! They get together and some of them have married. The marriages usually do not last because the girl finds out he owes lots of money on his credit card. The beautiful Mercedes is leased, his Rolex is a fake. He really has nothing, and in a few instances, the guy spends all the money she worked hard for. Too late! Her money is gone and she has to go back to work in the bar. That is why some of the girls are so hardened.

To tell you how sneaky these BGs are. I am banging 3 of them in fact knowing they have sugar daddy or.

BFs. On one instance a girl get his sugar daddy drunk, waited for him to go home to his wife and met me at Pagoga after.

[QUOTE=JohnRoss;3889363]For the most part, the girls are mercenaries. However, sometimes when they let their guard down, you can woo them. This is Darwinism's survival of the fittest, KB style. The fittest guy is the one with the most money, not the nicest or best looking one. Unfortunately, some KBGs have chosen the wrong one. He looks like he has money because he spends a lot on her. Of course he spends money, it is because he wants something! They get together and some of them have married. The marriages usually do not last because the girl finds out he owes lots of money on his credit card. The beautiful Mercedes is leased, his Rolex is a fake. He really has nothing, and in a few instances, the guy spends all the money she worked hard for. Too late! Her money is gone and she has to go back to work in the bar. That is why some of the girls are so hardened.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Kolohe1;3889296]Yup. Potentially dangerous area. Police station on Waimano Home Rd, too. I used to see checkpoints under the freeway on Kam Hwy.[/QUOTE]Actually this area is much safer than it appears as there are a lot of pc cops drinking at the bars there.

Don't know if the strip bar below PC plazza still there. There was one night trouble started inside the bar escalated into a brawl outside, ended up someone been shot. I used to seen some big spooky mean people hangout around there.

[QUOTE=VietWhisperer;3891281]Actually this area is much safer than it appears as there are a lot of pc cops drinking at the bars there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3891337]Don't know if the strip bar below PC plazza still there. There was one night trouble started inside the bar escalated into a brawl outside, ended up someone been shot. I used to seen some big spooky mean people hangout around there.[/QUOTE]Yea. It's safe to go day time. Night time is a different story. Sunflower. Has new girls. For now. Until its gets more dangerous then they might leave. The power he has a lot of druggies.

They have security but hired wrong people. I seen an old man in his 60's trying to his job under poorly lighting area. The thing is they have lots of people hangout by the strip bar and a small gym near the cars. Have not gone there for a while. Hope it changed.

[QUOTE=Gargoyles1;3892373]Yea. It's safe to go day time. Night time is a different story. Sunflower. Has new girls. For now. Until its gets more dangerous then they might leave. The power he has a lot of druggies.[/QUOTE]

Walked into Ashley one night. The place was so dead. Asked the male bartender where is the people? He laughed and said, they are in Kalihi.

Next stop Camelot, good looking bartender, forgot her name, she hustled me for a drink, bought her one.

Most of the town girls are in Kalihi now. If you can't find your honey there, they probably are at Kalihi.

I have also noticed a few town girls work their way to Pearl Kai.

Saw big boobs Sandy from EG is at old Kstyle. She must have gained 20 pounds.

Kalihi girls is switching bar like they changing underwear. One day you see her there next day you not.

Bars are shrinking so they are jocking position to find the money pot.

Is right around the corner!

CHEEHOO!

Which KB'S has the NFL network?

I don't go bar watch NFL and college football anymore. My house got the channels. Beside it is free and not on PPV. Monday night football usually on at 2 pm, most people are working. College and NFL games starts early in the morning on the weekend. Most people are still in bed.

I will watch UH games at the bar cause it is on PPV. And it is usually at night.

[QUOTE=Lualualei808;3892833]Is right around the corner!

CHEEHOO!

Which KB'S has the NFL network?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lualualei808;3892833]Is right around the corner!

CHEEHOO!

Which KB'S has the NFL network?[/QUOTE]I think most bars have the football network.

[QUOTE=Hairyolos;3892977]I think most bars have the football network.[/QUOTE]Much mahalo for the 411.

[QUOTE=JusYoung;3889213]Oh man, you shell out lot of cash on that, what happen on that one, hope you bang her more than a few times at least.

To get some of that money you invested. LOL.

Anyway working on my next catch. Anyone got a scoop on this bartender working night at 904 Monday and Tuesday, think name is Sam or Sammy? Does she play?[/QUOTE]If this is the one that was working at Splash and other Kapiolani area KB'S, then watch out she is a hustler and is married to a younger guy.

She married to a Korean cab driver with 2 kids. Banged her a few times at Pagoda. Nice lady but very pushy for drinks. Since I have the youth and is single, I often run into KBGs looking for satisfaction since their sugar daddy are old and unable to perform.

[QUOTE=Lualualei808;3893554]If this is the one that was working at Splash and other Kapiolani area KB'S, then watch out she is a hustler and is married to a younger guy.[/QUOTE]

She wear a dental braces last two years but recently was remove 2 weeks ago, is this the same kbg.

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3893822]She married to a Korean cab driver with 2 kids. Banged her a few times at Pagoda. Nice lady but very pushy for drinks. Since I have the youth and is single, I often run into KBGs looking for satisfaction since their sugar daddy are old and unable to perform.[/QUOTE]

Never have seen her wearing braces. The lady can drink but I suspected her watering down her drinks. She get wet fast and a lot. I have to cum first cause if she cum first I could have swim in there.

[QUOTE=JusYoung;3894090]She wear a dental braces last two years but recently was remove 2 weeks ago, is this the same kbg.[/QUOTE]

A male K taxi driver shot and killed a KBG in the room of a KB (forgot the KB name, but it's the old Yokohama venue, Queen Street); he shot himself thereafter and died a couple days later. I'd like to think that this happened about 20 years ago but have lost track of time. Anyway, we all taking our chances out there with the KBGs, and no can be absolutely sure about safety, but try to be as careful as possible as nobody like be at "the wrong place at the wrong time" and in the news (especially with your pants down). Take care and live to drink another day.

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3896053]A male K taxi driver shot and killed a KBG in the room of a KB (forgot the KB name, but it's the old Yokohama venue, Queen Street); he shot himself thereafter and died a couple days later. I'd like to think that this happened about 20 years ago but have lost track of time. Anyway, we all taking our chances out there with the KBGs, and no can be absolutely sure about safety, but try to be as careful as possible as nobody like be at "the wrong place at the wrong time" and in the news (especially with your pants down). Take care and live to drink another day.[/QUOTE]Wasn't that Black Horse or Crazy Horse or something like that? Black Stallion, the current Kalihi Station, had a KBG that was murdered, too. I think the guy ran his truck into a freeway wall and died.

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3896053]A male K taxi driver shot and killed a KBG in the room of a KB (forgot the KB name, but it's the old Yokohama venue, Queen Street); he shot himself thereafter and died a couple days later. I'd like to think that this happened about 20 years ago but have lost track of time.[/QUOTE]It was in 2004 at Club Queen Bee. Previously, the guy had allegedly bit, punched, slapped and kicked her, and allegedly told her that he would kill her "with a sashimi knife" if she was with another man. She obtained a TRO on him, but apparently it didn't help, because ultimately he shot her in the head and neck with a 9 mm handgun, and then shot himself in the mouth.

[QUOTE=Glogauer;3883531]"With five dollars in your pocket, you're handsome, you're funny, and you sing good, too!"

Yup. I'm a married guy and I'll try to explain to you single (and apparently younger) guys why most of the customers at KBs are married. If you hadn't noticed, most of us guys are a bit older and have seen better days. But despite what we see in the mirror everyday, deep down inside we still regard ourselves as the young studs we once were. The KBs are an oasis where we are waited on, cuddled, complimented, and pursued. I kinda enjoy just sitting at the bar and receiving the attention. If only for a little bit as far as my $20 neko will take me (usually about 10-15 minutes). It's a nice place to blow off the stress and cortisol that has built up over the day and week. It is massage for the ego. And it is completely fair to compensate the KBGs for their time. Most trades (plumbers, electricians) charge about $120/ hr. The higher priced professionals (engineers, accountants, lawyers) $150 - $300/ hr. So depending on the KBG, that's 4 drinks / hr on the lower end and 10/ hr on the higher end. If you're strictly looking for sex, then yes the KB is the wrong venue. Definitely no value at the KB for the physical sex act.

But here's where it gets interesting: many of us married guys cross over to the next level and go into "hunt" mode. It's the thrill of the chase. Yes, the KBGs will up their hourly rate accordingly and it's fun to bait and stalk. But that's why men fish and hunt. There's no hunt in buying the steak at the supermarket. Yes, it is expensive. But I think no more expensive than hunting or fishing. And as you see on this thread, we compare our catches and often post the trophies for display.

And yes, it is addictive. I now kinda think of KBGs like slot machines. I feed them drinks and see which ones will pay out. Some are looser than others. But it is the anticipation and the discovery that is fun. And oh that dopamine high when you hit a jackpot. There's no thrill of victory if there is no risk of losing. And as the old-timers put it, its about maximizing your earnings while minimizing your loses. So there is that much more joy when the KBG lets you take her home at no additional cost. Of course, there are hidden fees. But that's a whole 'nother topic. Sometimes you chase them 'til they catch you.

But the main thing is that for the most part in my experience KBGs are professionals. As a married man, I don't have to dress up. I can come to the bar when I want to. Usually right after work. They know and I know that this is their profession, and I won't be getting klingy text messages or calls at home. I'm not looking for another wife or girlfriend and am completely willing to share her with others. I'm paying, so I expect good service regardless what mood she is in. As a married man, can't do this thing with civilians at local or tourist bars.

I honestly can't speak for the guys who go into the next tier: long term relationships. I think the most I've slept with a particular KBG is three times. And the thrill is gone already. I hover between tier 1 and 2.

What I don't understand is why SINGLE guys go to KBs. Ok -if you fugly, I understand. But dammit, if you got good looks, game, and guns (or bazookas) - you should be hunting out at the local bars and clubs to chase women who aren't trying to earn a living by spending time with you!

P.S. as for intel - I've found recent happy hunting grounds West of Kalihi in the Aiea/Pearl City area. Got some younger KBGs working in those areas who I think get less attention and perhaps feel more lonely in their personal time.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's exactly how I explain to my friends who ask about going to the bars. Exact same analogy "slot machine. " I tell them it's like playing a slot machine, most time just feed the machine and enjoy playing but sometimes you get lucky. And like the slot machine. You get teased thinking you going hit something big. Also if you really lucky someone may have left some money in the machine so you just play and win!! Doesn't it fit so well?? The worst is falling in love with a particular machine that you Judy keep feeding money into but it never pays out!

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3896053]A male K taxi driver shot and killed a KBG in the room of a KB (forgot the KB name, but it's the old Yokohama venue, Queen Street); he shot himself thereafter and died a couple days later. I'd like to think that this happened about 20 years ago but have lost track of time. Anyway, we all taking our chances out there with the KBGs, and no can be absolutely sure about safety, but try to be as careful as possible as nobody like be at "the wrong place at the wrong time" and in the news (especially with your pants down). Take care and live to drink another day.[/QUOTE]I think the name of the bar where KBG was murdered on Queen St was Queen Bee or something like that.

[QUOTE=Sukebe1808;3896148]Haha, that's exactly how I explain to my friends who ask about going to the bars. Exact same analogy "slot machine. " I tell them it's like playing a slot machine, most time just feed the machine and enjoy playing but sometimes you get lucky. And like the slot machine. You get teased thinking you going hit something big. Also if you really lucky someone may have left some money in the machine so you just play and win!! Doesn't it fit so well?? The worst is falling in love with a particular machine that you Judy keep feeding money into but it never pays out![/QUOTE]Good analogy. The other question you have to decide on is do you place the maximum bet on every spin or do you pick and choose when to place max bet. Problem is the machine may not pay off unless you put in the max. LOL.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3896098]It was in 2004 at Club Queen Bee. Previously, the guy had allegedly bit, punched, slapped and kicked her, and allegedly told her that he would kill her "with a sashimi knife" if she was with another man. She obtained a TRO on him, but apparently it didn't help, because ultimately he shot her in the head and neck with a 9 mm handgun, and then shot himself in the mouth.[/QUOTE]Thought this hapoened in the last days of yokohama. But that happened kind of long ago. All the timez I went queen bees thought it was a local karaoke bar.

Who fault is that letting your wife work at KBs? I would not if I was married. I would say 90 percent of married KBGs do cheat. The numbers might even be higher. The married ones try to hide the marriage. But their co-workers blow their cover in most cases. The lips not sealed when come to KBs. KBGs got the biggest mouth there is. They often tell who is coming to see so and so, lawyers, doctors, contractors and so on. Throwing their names out there just like nothing. But the thing is when the affair gone sour such as changing partners. That is when the shit hit the fan. The married high profiles clients got a lot to lose. The BGs just hop on to next target. It is fact of life at KBs.

[QUOTE=Hairyolos;3896995]Thought this hapoened in the last days of yokohama. But that happened kind of long ago. All the timez I went queen bees thought it was a local karaoke bar.[/QUOTE]Both of the Honolulu newspapers at that time reported that this particular incident occurred at Club Queen Bee, with one of them specifically calling Club Queen Bee a "hostess bar" at the time of the incident. However, it later became a local place for food, karaoke, etc.

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3897057]Who fault is that letting your wife work at KBs? I would not if I was married. I would say 90 percent of married KBGs do cheat. The numbers might even be higher. The married ones try to hide the marriage. But their co-workers blow their cover in most cases. The lips not sealed when come to KBs. KBGs got the biggest mouth there is. They often tell who is coming to see so and so, lawyers, doctors, contractors and so on. Throwing their names out there just like nothing. But the thing is when the affair gone sour such as changing partners. That is when the shit hit the fan. The married high profiles clients got a lot to lose. The BGs just hop on to next target. It is fact of life at KBs.[/QUOTE]So are you saying that it is a huge mistake to marry a kbg because there is a 90% chance she will cheat? How would you know if the kbg is part of the 10% that would be loyal to you? I guess if you could figure that out you would be way ahead of the game.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3897066]Both of the Honolulu newspapers at that time reported that this particular incident occurred at Club Queen Bee, with one of them specifically calling Club Queen Bee a "hostess bar" at the time of the incident. However, it later became a local place for food, karaoke, etc.[/QUOTE]Wasn't it also named Yellow Rose around that time? Man, FUN times! LOL.

Queen Bee room, Salt Lake wall, KBG apartment in Makiki. It's all the same: deadly. All it takes is one LVB or KBG to lose control, go mental, and do something unnecessary. It also shows how good KBG actresses are at catching plenty guys suckas. Take care and play it tight because 99% of the time you being played.

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3897500]Queen Bee room, Salt Lake wall, KBG apartment in Makiki. It's all the same: deadly. All it takes is one LVB or KBG to lose control, go mental, and do something unnecessary. It also shows how good KBG actresses are at catching plenty guys suckas. Take care and play it tight because 99% of the time you being played.[/QUOTE]It's a good thing we don't have crazies like that on this board!