CookyJar's Streetwalker Photos

[QUOTE=Frasier69;4147926]In my experience the benefit of a SD / SB arrangement is consistent / reliability meetings and lower rates for the time spent together. For me it felt more like a FWB arrangement of sorts where I provided an allowance. But a lot of that depends on the SB. I found it best when establishing arrangements with those that are new to it all and those that are just looking for one SD to see. Seeing a pro most of the time is too formal and down to business. I never felt that way when I was with a SB. As for the rules, that depends on the SD. If done right you set the terms / rules, they either accept them or not. The SD has all the leverage since he can just find someone else. After the arrangement ends the door is always open for you to see them again. Often they'll contact you when they're in need.[/QUOTE]I've had some pretty consistent relationships with a few of the girls I've met. I saw them when I wanted and I saw someone else when I wanted. I moved on when I got bored or things got creepy. It's whatever floats your boat.

One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4147981]Whatever floats your boat. I get that. But, in the end, it's all the same. She sees you on Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. Monday, Wednesday and Saturday she working the streets or some other poor sap. (Nothing personal).

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]One had three others besides me and another was out there after I dropped her off. I wanted a consistant experience. I was never their only trick.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148025]I've had some pretty consistent relationships with a few of the girls I've met. I saw them when I wanted and I saw someone else when I wanted. I moved on when I got bored or things got creepy. It's whatever floats your boat.

One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I been giving out my number since I got my first cell in 1997. Never any issues.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4147996]I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Not everyone gets the same thing for the same price. Some guys want their girl to swallow everytime. They do swallow but not with every guy they go with.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4147978]Customize it however you want, it's still pay to play. How often you do it, no matter the time frame, it's pay to play. Same as it's always been, same as it always will be.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Of course it is pay to play. That's what this website is all about. But there are gradations of the process and we give labels to the girl and / or the experience: SW, UTR, SB, escort, whatever. The labels can mean different things to different people and sometimes the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl. That doesn't mean the labels are invalid and it's all the same thing, even though the same girl can be all of these labels to different guys at different times. It can be about how much you pay and / or how you perceive or want to be perceived paying to play. A true-blue dyed in the wool SD most likely wants to be perceived as a top dog, dining in the best restaurants while the rest of us slobs are scarfing down Big Macs. In reality the same girl a SD calls his SB could be plying her trade on Kensington Ave the next day. She can be his SB and your SW. Are you both wrong or both right? Depends whether one asks him or you.

I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148025]One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. [/QUOTE]If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148025]We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.[/QUOTE]One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4147996]I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]"Prostitution Food Chain. " I like that!

Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't. I know that when I have fished and do fish in the SB pond I get more gorgeous, sweet college-aged tail than I ever got when I was in college. To me they seemed innocent and brand new to the pay for play biz, which is what I was paying for. Maybe I could have found some of them on the corner the next day and had a pipe cleaning for a Jackson, but I doubt it. It is always possible that any of these SBs could eventually be had at bargain basement prices on the Ave. I have had SWs that were just as fine as any SB. So SW gems are clearly available. But I never had any SBs that were as awful as some of the SWs I have encountered. Like I said. Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't.

I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.

It's all good my brothers!

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148175] the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl.
I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.[/QUOTE]It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148879]It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? Looks are one thing. Personality and attitude are another. A few SW gems could fill this bill but certainly not nearly all. I admitted that there were some SWs who might make good SBs. That's how this whole discussion got started in the first place. I suggested that Jordan and Rain could be good examples of this. But let's not pretend that all pussy is the same. That's absurd. It just isn't. And it isn't just some perception or delusion. Some pussy is just worth more than others for a whole host of reasons that only partly have to do with what a girl looks like. Attitude, intelligence, sensuality and personality are just a few of the numerous characteristics that are important parts of the equation. Just because you don't choose to play in a pool of genuine college-aged nubile gorgeous and innocent sweeties doesn't make your choices of SWs on the Ave just the same or better. A few might be close, but they just aren't the same and no quantity of claim by you will make it so. That is not to say that they are lesser or inferior. They are simply choices we make. I like SWs. I like SBs. I like pussy of all varieties and prices. And sometimes you can have a high quality girl for a bargain price. But they are most definitely NOT "all the same. ". If they were all the same I would stick with one good one and not seek variety. But that's another subject called why have a SO? Viva la difference.

I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.

There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.

Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148181]If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.

One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.[/QUOTE]The one paying makes the rules. When I get bored, I move on. There are millions out there for sale. We can choose from 1,000's whereas they take whatever comes their way.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation. [/QUOTE]LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets. [/QUOTE]Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.

Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.[/QUOTE]Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.

The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.[/QUOTE]Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.[/QUOTE]Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.[/QUOTE]Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.[/QUOTE]Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.

No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.

PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149223]
PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.[/QUOTE]I would like to find her one day soon.