Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Balcony;7638313]Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.

I'm just worried that it won't work given some of the things that I know about this girl. She's told me in the past that she enjoys living the stripper lifestyle and has no desire to get a more normal job anytime soon. She even claims to have never been in a serious long-term relationship before. Like many strippers, she's in the game for the money and men are her means of getting it. I'm well aware of this. So, asking her to see me without the financial incentives may be a tough sell indeed. On the other hand, I know other guys in similar situations have done it and I remain hopeful that maybe I, too, can find a way.

But as you've pointed out, having a mostly transactional type of relationship probably isn't healthy. So, I completely understand if other people think it's a bad idea for me to keep chasing this girl. I don't expect everyone to agree with my decisions. It is what it is.

In any case, I know that I'll probably have to resolve this situation one way or another eventually. But for now, I'm just brainstorming ideas and kicking the can down the road. I'll be cool with whatever eventually ends up happening either way.[/QUOTE]Ehh I think its totally fine to keep going out with her if you enjoy it. Are you being taken advantage of and being charged high prices, yes. But I mean if you have fun and enjoy her company, its fine to keep hanging out.

However, once you want to actually form a "real relationship" with them, then it becomes a problem and might be unhealthy "mental" wise. In general its going to be hard for most of these girls to leave the industry in general unless they keep getting a consistent flow of income. If you're used to getting an "INSANE" salary for a particular action and then suddenly not for "hanging out" pretty hard to stop. Especially since getting into the industry "money" is probably a "HIGH VALUE" for most of them.

I feel like only way to actually realistically date / marry someone would be able to afford to give her enough for her to quit the club for say 6-12 months. Form a 1 on 1 relatinship. And then see where the both of you are. Granted you're probably going to have to supply her "FOR LIFE" and she'll probably be a Stay AT Home Mom, and she'll pursue whatever she wants. But to even do this man yall are actually "Big Ball'and respect to yalls hustle".

[QUOTE=DrizzyDrizz;7634447]It depends how much the girl you are trying to take out makes on an average night factoring all her regulars. If she makes 1000+ in tips a night, she'll give you a discount based on her average since it's easier for her to go out for a few hours than it is to be at the club. Also it depends how much you're giving her normally. If you give her 400 weekly and she's a busy girl, she probably won't take less than 1000. If you give her 300 and she's not a busy girl, she would probably take 500-600. Also it depends how often you plan on seeing each other so if its weekly then she'll give you a better price since its dependable money. Ultimately, talk it out from your perspective to her and it has to make sense for both of you guys in terms of money and time.[/QUOTE]I mean in my mind $500 for a date is still pretty darn good. They don't have to "actively hustle," they are there just for the ride as long as you're not a Bore Slob. Also this money comes without fees and "probably taxes. " Usually girls aren't that busy and would be hanging out on a non-work day. (It's literally a free expensed day / night). Taxes / Fees are probably the biggest factor literally 40%+ discount since we live in CA and are probably in the higher brackets.

I mean the top chicks easily pulling a couple grand on busy nights.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;7640745]Ehh I think its totally fine to keep going out with her if you enjoy it. Are you being taken advantage of and being charged high prices, yes. But I mean if you have fun and enjoy her company, its fine to keep hanging out.

However, once you want to actually form a "real relationship" with them, then it becomes a problem and might be unhealthy "mental" wise. In general its going to be hard for most of these girls to leave the industry in general unless they keep getting a consistent flow of income. If you're used to getting an "INSANE" salary for a particular action and then suddenly not for "hanging out" pretty hard to stop. Especially since getting into the industry "money" is probably a "HIGH VALUE" for most of them.

I feel like only way to actually realistically date / marry someone would be able to afford to give her enough for her to quit the club for say 6-12 months. Form a 1 on 1 relatinship. And then see where the both of you are. Granted you're probably going to have to supply her "FOR LIFE" and she'll probably be a Stay AT Home Mom, and she'll pursue whatever she wants. But to even do this man yall are actually "Big Ball'and respect to yalls hustle".[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. I think money could ultimately end up being the deciding factor in all of this. It seems we're on the same page in our line of thinking.

[QUOTE=CumDripp;7640749]I mean in my mind $500 for a date is still pretty darn good. They don't have to "actively hustle," they are there just for the ride as long as you're not a Bore Slob. Also this money comes without fees and "probably taxes. " Usually girls aren't that busy and would be hanging out on a non-work day. (It's literally a free expensed day / night). Taxes / Fees are probably the biggest factor literally 40%+ discount since we live in CA and are probably in the higher brackets.

I mean the top chicks easily pulling a couple grand on busy nights.[/QUOTE]I would also add that another benefit of doing business outside the club is that the girl doesn't have to give a cut to the venue. For example, some places take 40% of the money that a girl makes from selling dances at the club. So, if you paid $180 for a trip to the VIP room, the club gets $72 and the girl only keeps $108. This is why a lot of strippers end up offering extras in the first place. There's not nearly as much money to be had from only offering clean dances. Just be careful that the venue doesn't find out that you're doing any of this. Some managers are very strict when it comes to that sort of thing.

[QUOTE=Roland2418;7630969]She looks like the fresh young type that is going to throw out a crazy number to start because she doesn't really want to do it. But eventually will turn to the darkside at a regular high number that some guys will pay. Similar to Ariel.[/QUOTE]I had run in with Ariel when she first started. She was 2 week in when I took her into VIP. I acted on a tip from her friend Katie. At first I wanted Katie but she insisted she doesn't do extras and referred me to see Ariel because she gives head.

In the VIP I inquired about extras. She said was interested and willing to work something out for us. She casually floated 500 to see how I would react. I thought that was beyond reason for half service so I declined. Then she dropped the price to 250 and clarified that it was for full service which honestly caught me off guard. Getting a taste of the new pretty girl at that price was an easy decision. As pretty as Ariel is, she was just an ok laid. Her spinner body lacks the tits and ass I like to grab. Also she refused lay on her back on the couch so we were limited to what we can do. But I managed to have a lot of fun with her. We chatted briefly before we parted ways.

I went to the club the following week and took her to VIP for seconds. I told her I want the same from last time and she didn't seem thrilled about it. She asked me for the tips before we begin. As I was getting ready, I could see that she was just sitting there uneasy. Then she turned to me with teary eyes filled with confusion and regret and said "I can't do this". I asked her what's wrong. She said she can't go through with this with so little money. She quickly took the tips out of her purse handed it back to me then put her panties back on to guard her pussy from me. I want to be compassionate for her but my selfishness only lets me think about the money I spent on the VIP room and I'm getting nothing from her. She ending up giving me HJ as a concession. We talked a little bit. I asked her if I was the first man she gave extras to. She has a regular that she brought over from Bliss and he was her first. I asked if he was tipping her 500 and she said no, 600. When time was up she just ran out. She pretend she can't see me ever since.

[QUOTE=Balcony;7638313]Hey, thanks for the thoughtful response!

To be honest, I don't want to cut off contact with her just yet. I really like her and we already have some really fun things planned in the future together. It would really suck for me to break things off right now. However, I'm taking your advice very seriously and I may end up doing something like that in the future. I actually like your idea of breaking off contact with her and then throwing a hail Mary to see if there's any chance of rebuilding the relationship from a more genuine standpoint. It seems pretty clear that I may have to do something drastic like that in order to re-frame how she sees me.
.[/QUOTE]Be prepare for some serious heartbreak. Strippers and pretty girls in general are heartless and will move on fast after break ups. The void that you created in time, money, complements and emotional support will be quickly filled by other guys. You'll be replaced almost immediately. Strippers with childhood trama (daddy issues) which a lot of them experienced , will not allow themselves to be attached to relationships. Something to do with fear of abandonment. Good luck.

Will the World Cup happening in LA bring out more or less dancers to clubs?

I doubt the visitors will have money after spending thousands on tickets, flights, food and hotels.

[QUOTE=JayM;7641419]Will the World Cup happening in LA bring out more or less dancers to clubs?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balcony;7631204]I find this to be a very interesting topic on a personal level.

I don't really want to give too many details, but I'm currently going out with a girl from SR who has also worked at Synn in the past. To be clear, we're not actually boyfriend and girlfriend or anything like that. I pay her to go on dates with me, so I guess it's more like a sugar daddy type of relationship. I believe others on this forum have called it "OTC" or something like that? I don't know. I'm new on here and still trying to figure out the lingo.

In any case, the girl I'm seeing has been mentioned on this forum multiple times before and it was pretty wild reading about some of the stuff other guys have reported doing with her. LOL.

Personally, I don't really care what she does or how many other dudes she does it with. I knew that was a part of the experience when I first asked her to go out with me outside of the club over a year ago. But what I didn't expect to have happen was to develop genuine feelings for her. I can honestly say that she's an amazing person and no other girl can give me the same feelings as her.

I'm sure there will be some people who think I'm a stupid sucker for caring about a girl who takes my money while she's getting ran through by half of the town. It doesn't matter.

I've seen many seemingly nice normal girls cheat before and I've even been the other guy that they were cheating on their boyfriends with. I'm pretty desensitized when it comes to that sort of thing. The way I see it, a sex worker may have a much higher body count, but at least she is honest about what she does. As long as I get to have my turn, it's fine.

So to answer OP's original question, I look at those guys mostly with respect. But more importantly, I also look at them with understanding. If my girl wanted to leave her line of work to run off into the sunset with me, I'd take her in a heartbeat!

I would actually be curious to know how the guy was able to go from being a customer to eventually marrying her. In my experience, it's really hard to break out of being labeled as a client in a girl's mind.

And on that note, if anyone has any experience or advice on how to go from being a client to getting into a legit relationship with a stripper, let me know! I'd be happy to be the next guy who takes a popular stripper off the market. Haha.[/QUOTE]It might be the dancer which name starts by a W.

[QUOTE=VisitUSA;7642089]It might be the dancer which name starts by a W.[/QUOTE]Nope. Her name does not start with a W.

[QUOTE=Jeep5151;7641112]Be prepare for some serious heartbreak. Strippers and pretty girls in general are heartless and will move on fast after break ups. The void that you created in time, money, complements and emotional support will be quickly filled by other guys. You'll be replaced almost immediately. Strippers with childhood trama (daddy issues) which a lot of them experienced , will not allow themselves to be attached to relationships. Something to do with fear of abandonment. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Oh, I know all about that. Some women have a hard time pair bonding with anyone. But it's ok. This is not my first rodeo.

[QUOTE=JayM;7641419]Will the World Cup happening in LA bring out more or less dancers to clubs?[/QUOTE]I guess its bad for business. This Thursday and Friday were pretty slow.

I would say only 1/2 customers before 9 pm and 2/3 after.

[QUOTE=Roland2418;7636823]Are you saying police shut them down? I thought it was understood they were just failed businesses that went under financially.[/QUOTE]No, these club were not shut down by the police at least not directly.

Hawaiian Theatre was shut down because the landlord did not renew their lease. From what, I heard SR offered the landlord a small fortune for the space.

Monarch was badly run from the get go. First off, they expanded the club without city approval. They added new VIP room which the city did not approve of, and the club was eventually forced to wall them up. Then club put a new sign without city approval. The club was originally to be called Pink, and someone though it would be good idea to stylized the I to kind look of like a pussy. The city was not happy with that. They had take the sign down and change the name of the club to Monarch before they allow to open. The club was financially in a hole before day one. The club became a huge money pit for SR.

Deja Vu was unofficial forced to shut down by the city. Because the it was next to school district HQ, there was a lot of pressure to shut the club down. The city harassed the club years. They had the police raid the club. They force the club to build a dressing room downstair, lower the bar, and put in a wheelchair left lift at the stage for disabled dancers they did not have. Later, they force the club to go bikini, without liquor license, which eventually drove away all their customers.

I add a few items:

1) The US is more expensive than almost every country in the Tournament.

2) Those that have money will find better return elsewhere (ie back home).

3) International travelers don't come to the US for vice.

4) Regardless how you feel, I doubt any visitor wants to risk getting into trouble with DHS or ICE.

[QUOTE=LaoneBug;7642680]I guess it’s bad for business. This Thursday and Friday were pretty slow.

I would say only 1/2 customers before 9 pm and 2/3 after.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balcony;7640970]Yeah, I agree. I think money could ultimately end up being the deciding factor in all of this. It seems we're on the same page in our line of thinking.

I would also add that another benefit of doing business outside the club is that the girl doesn't have to give a cut to the venue. For example, some places take 40% of the money that a girl makes from selling dances at the club. So, if you paid $180 for a trip to the VIP room, the club gets $72 and the girl only keeps $108. This is why a lot of strippers end up offering extras in the first place. There's not nearly as much money to be had from only offering clean dances. Just be careful that the venue doesn't find out that you're doing any of this. Some managers are very strict when it comes to that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]Good topic. Outside is always best. A matter of fact, my friend sees Roxy outside in a motel, good times according to him. Girlfriend experience.

Bro, tropical Lei reminds me of Little Ceasers Pizza, the females are hot and ready, BTW Synn Diamond works there, the mixed cute girl. The VIP ROOM is nice, no I did not take her in the VIP, but she's looking good, and love to hit it doggy w / her!! However, there are alot of cute females there, so these ladies got to let us see what's on the floor first which they don't understand. Seems the prices are reasonable on the extras, and open minded dancers. I'm sure the staff doesn't want us to give Intel on the club, I hate being the only customer in the club surrounded by 25 women, it's an ODD FEELING, AND EACH GIRL HAS A MENU.

Anything worth seeing at Secrets?