Couple of BSW out on SB in the early evening. [ATTACH=CONFIG]327476[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]327475[/ATTACH].
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Couple of BSW out on SB in the early evening. [ATTACH=CONFIG]327476[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]327475[/ATTACH].
I cruised northbound Lankershim from 101 to the 5 from 2345 to midnight and did not see any action. I then went southbound Sepulveda from 118 to Burbank.
I did not see any SW. It was a complete ghost town.
[QUOTE=Ivonnahumpalot;2126046]The vice unit started shutting it down, any girl who tried to walk and all the guys on the bikes were all pulled over. They were out if force.[/QUOTE]I heard they where out just as bad yesterday a girl I know got it somewhere between 11-12 pm. There starting to hit a lot more. I'm seen plain.
Clothes officers hopping out of be&W's jacking girls up a lot more the last week around 2:30 - 4 am now. We are still out there I've seen a lot more girls.
From Raymer and up with a lot more coming out between 6 and 7.
BeCareful out there and have fun.
Kisses Carrie.
Last night, I got a text, around 2 am From a girl I had dated previously, asking me to meet her on SB. After texting back and forth for awhile, she directed me to a certain corner. I was getting ready to go, when she texted again, asking how long, and what kind of car I would be driving. This sent a warning chill up my spine, because she knows my car, so I left me phone home, went by the general area, but didn't see her. What I did see was a staging area with four Black and Whites, and two tow trucks in the parking lot of the Mobil on Sherman Way and Sepulveda. I went back home, and I had another text from "her" telling me to come and park in the CVS Parking lot, which is across the street from the staging area. I told her no, and went to sleep. Didn't hear anything further from her. I am wondering if I was being set up by LE.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2129956]Last night, I got a text, around 2 am From a girl I had dated previously, asking me to meet her on SB. After texting back and forth for awhile, she directed me to a certain corner. I was getting ready to go, when she texted again, asking how long, and what kind of car I would be driving. This sent a warning chill up my spine, because she knows my car, so I left me phone home, went by the general area, but didn't see her. What I did see was a staging area with four Black and Whites, and two tow trucks in the parking lot of the Mobil on Sherman Way and Sepulveda. I went back home, and I had another text from "her" telling me to come and park in the CVS Parking lot, which is across the street from the staging area. I told her no, and went to sleep. Didn't hear anything further from her. I am wondering if I was being set up by LE.[/QUOTE]Likely, I wouldn't put it past them, but would they do some obvious entrapment that you could easily prove in court?
But also, she could have been spooked by all the LE and so instead of walking the street she hit up old clients to pick her up. Spooky just the same.
[QUOTE=Blake4;2130324]Likely, I wouldn't put it past them, but would they do some obvious entrapment that you could easily prove in court?
But also, she could have been spooked by all the LE and so instead of walking the street she hit up old clients to pick her up. Spooky just the same.[/QUOTE]I don't think they care. That's why I left my phone home, because if I found her and we got stopped, they couldn't use the texts between the two of us as evidence. I couldn't see any reason why she would be asking what car I was driving, when she knows what car I have.
This was a bit of early afternoon fun. She was walking and I really was just on my way home, but I hit a side street and parked and she offered her services, so what the hell!
This is a girl that likes to spend the 1st part of the "date" cuddling and stroking, so if that isn't your thing, you probably wouldn't like her. Anyway she is a BSW about 5'4" tall, thin, but with a great ass and nice muscle definition in her legs, definitely not a crack jo type. She asks for $ for 30 minutes or $$ for an hour. A little expensive, and she really doesn't give good head, but she sure knows how to ride a cock CG. Have digits for qualified Senior Members.
Ratings: Face 8. 5 (she's cute, but not beautiful); body 8, lower half is a 10, but upper is about 7. 5; Service 9; Attitude 10; Price 5. If you are more skilled at negotiating than I, you can probably get a better deal.
[QUOTE=Blake4;2130324]Likely, I wouldn't put it past them, but would they do some obvious entrapment that you could easily prove in court?
But also, she could have been spooked by all the LE and so instead of walking the street she hit up old clients to pick her up. Spooky just the same.[/QUOTE]It was best to stay away. This would not have been entrapment because there is no entrapment if you are "predisposed" to do the crime. Being in the SW's data base would evidence that predisposition. Better safe than sorry.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2130414]This was a bit of early afternoon fun. She was walking and I really was just on my way home, but I hit a side street and parked and she offered her services, so what the hell!
This is a girl that likes to spend the 1st part of the "date" cuddling and stroking, so if that isn't your thing, you probably wouldn't like her. Anyway she is a BSW about 5'4" tall, thin, but with a great ass and nice muscle definition in her legs, definitely not a crack jo type. She asks for $ for 30 minutes or $$ for an hour. A little expensive, and she really doesn't give good head, but she sure knows how to ride a cock CG. Have digits for qualified Senior Members.
Ratings: Face 8. 5 (she's cute, but not beautiful); body 8, lower half is a 10, but upper is about 7. 5; Service 9; Attitude 10; Price 5. If you are more skilled at negotiating than I, you can probably get a better deal.[/QUOTE]$100 for a 1/2 hour car date?
Did anyone see her? She was a short LSW, she was walking with a BSW on Sunday morning, around 6-7.
I picked her up on SB and Roscoe. . 6 for a quick date. It turned out her friend (forget her name) was out on her first day. Her friend did CBJ, and the doggy with melissa all for. 6!
Melissa about an 8, Friend 6. 5.
Anyways, I wanted to see her again, she gave me her number but it wasnt saved on my phone for some reason. Has anyone seen her or dated her? Would love to call her again.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nutzoid;2130735]$100 for a 1/2 hour car date?[/QUOTE]No, in a room. Fully naked, CBJ and F / S.
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I haven't heard anything more from Miata (did anyone who got her # from me get with her?) since the weird night described previously. It really bothered me that she asked about what car I would be driving! It seemed like some bored piggy had busted her and took her phone and decided to see what he could rustle up from some of her contacts. Remember Nury wants results, and not arrests of girls, she wants US! After all we are the ones victimizing all these victims of Human trafficking that is mainly occurring in her mind. I was just surprised that the text didn't ask for my license plate # too. You can't tell with a text, and I certainly wasn't going to call her under these circumstances. I think you can assume that those digits are permanently out of commission (might want to delete them from your phone if you haven't already).
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2132509]I haven't heard anything more from Miata (did anyone who got her # from me get with her?) since the weird night described previously. It really bothered me that she asked about what car I would be driving! It seemed like some bored piggy had busted her and took her phone and decided to see what he could rustle up from some of her contacts. Remember Nury wants results, and not arrests of girls, she wants US! After all we are the ones victimizing all these victims of Human trafficking that is mainly occurring in her mind. I was just surprised that the text didn't ask for my license plate # too. You can't tell with a text, and I certainly wasn't going to call her under these circumstances. I think you can assume that those digits are permanently out of commission (might want to delete them from your phone if you haven't already).[/QUOTE]I've tried to call her twice last week and went straight to voice mail.
[QUOTE=Watnow78;2132671]I've tried to call her twice last week and went straight to voice mail.[/QUOTE]Actually, I have never called her. You could try texting her, as she always texted me back prior to the night I described in detail, would let me know where she was, and if she was coming back to the Valley. It seems she also goes to Gardena at time. Just be careful, and if "she" starts asking for info that seems out of bounds, drop it and delete her #. She is hot, but not worth getting busted over.
[QUOTE=Watnow78;2125399]Yeah turns out a car ran through the gas station hitting 2 people and killing one of the on the bus bench.[/QUOTE]Ah, I was really wondering what that guy must have done to have that many police cars arrive on the scene. My second thought: don't have to worry much about LE for the twenty minutes! O.
Started a late shift at work today and saw no one except a larger BSW around 9 am on sb near one of the liquor stores. (more have been hanging about the area) since I had time to kill I said "what the hey".
So I scooped her up, she wanted a fiver for a beej and eight for anything. I talked her down to a sixer for all of it and she said sure.
I parked on the side because she wasn't fully dressed like a SW, so I walked near her pretending to go to the liqour store, when she asked me for a smoke. I asked if she was working. -sorry shoulda put that first- anyways we walked it to her room.
I prefer a walking pick up anyways because it's less conspicuous. She gave me a nice BBBJ with her ass in my face. Not sure if she wanted me to 69 it, but I'm kinda cautious about it so I did some finger play on her p&a.
Then we got to the good stuff put a cap on and did it mish followed by doggie.
She's real nice and didn't rush it all, which was really good since I talked her down in the first place.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2129956]Last night, I got a text, around 2 am From a girl I had dated previously, asking me to meet her on SB. After texting back and forth for awhile, she directed me to a certain corner. I was getting ready to go, when she texted again, asking how long, and what kind of car I would be driving. This sent a warning chill up my spine, because she knows my car, so I left me phone home, went by the general area, but didn't see her. What I did see was a staging area with four Black and Whites, and two tow trucks in the parking lot of the Mobil on Sherman Way and Sepulveda. I went back home, and I had another text from "her" telling me to come and park in the CVS Parking lot, which is across the street from the staging area. I told her no, and went to sleep. Didn't hear anything further from her. I am wondering if I was being set up by LE.[/QUOTE]It was probably one of two things: she was high and / or drunk and couldn't remember details, or another girl got your number out of the other girls phone hoping to get lucky. There have been several occasions when a girl has contacted me and couldn't remember any details from two days ago. I've also had 'sisters' and friends call or text using the other prsons phone. Both make me edgy. I prefer a good regular in part because you're less lkkely to get popped. The cops across the street was almost certainly a coincidence otherwise they would have tracked you down by now.
[QUOTE=Parker51;2130677]It was best to stay away. This would not have been entrapment because there is no entrapment if you are "predisposed" to do the crime. Being in the SW's data base would evidence that predisposition. Better safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]I think it would depend on the content of the text. Meeting someone at CVS isn't against the law. Meeting someoneat CVS whho just sent you a text with 60 FS special for you tonight only is going to problematic. Anyways, best to error on the side of safety. If only we could transact in bitcoin.
Tuesday night around ten I saw two BSW cross SB at Roscoe and begin walking North for several blocks. One was tall and thin wearing blue denim shorts. The other had a bit of a Latin look and was wearing white pants and a black top. Damn she looked good. Anyways, they made quite a scene and I was hoping someone may have some additional info on them.
[QUOTE=WildWood;2135870]I think it would depend on the content of the text. Meeting someone at CVS isn't against the law. Meeting someoneat CVS whho just sent you a text with 60 FS special for you tonight only is going to problematic. Anyways, best to error on the side of safety. If only we could transact in bitcoin.[/QUOTE]See'Mon. Man. Even the stupidest LE would never send such a text, or force an SW they had co-opted to send it, as the the would toss the case, not file it. Also, you don't know her, she doesn't do specials at those type of prices, LOL.
[QUOTE=WildWood;2135867]It was probably one of two things: she was high and / or drunk and couldn't remember details, or another girl got your number out of the other girls phone hoping to get lucky. There have been several occasions when a girl has contacted me and couldn't remember any details from two days ago. I've also had 'sisters' and friends call or text using the other prsons phone. Both make me edgy. I prefer a good regular in part because you're less lkkely to get popped. The cops across the street was almost certainly a coincidence otherwise they would have tracked you down by now.[/QUOTE]How? I didn't go anywhere near the CVS parking lot, so they couldn't have seen my car there. I got that text from "Miata" after Ihad returned home, as I didn't take my phone with me. Also, I deleted the entire conversation, so even if they got a warrant and seized my phone (where in the hell is the probable cause?) they wouldn't find anything. If there is some vulnerability here, let me know either here, or by PM.
Why is it that the girls from out of town (she's from NY via Las Vegas) are more reasonably priced? This girl is very pretty and nice, but has one flaw.
Anyway, I met her on SB right by the Chevron station as I was on my way home from the gym. She hopped into the car and exposed a great part of tits to peak my interest. $. 8 for F / S, CBJ, which was great, followed by mish, as she doesn't like to do cg. That isn't the flaw, however. Like many BSW she insists on using Magnum condoms, and I just couldn't feel her. She isn't that tight, so if yu are larger than I am, and thicker, you might have a better experience.
Appearance 9. 5 (she is what BC and DL would term "my type") 5'7", long legs, tiny waist with wide hips and a great pair of tits; Face 9. 5; Attitude 9 (would go higher but she wouldn't do cg, which is my favorite); Price 8; Service 6 (because I couldn't feel her pussy, the head was great). Have the digits for qualified Senior Members. Will probably repeat.
BTW, you can't miss that it's her, she has her name, Chyna tattooed between those awesome breasts.
This is a bit surprising. I have found that the SW's from LV are usually moe expensive. Butb perhpas things have changed for the better. Do mnot see many SW's from LV IN sd these days.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2137125]Why is it that the girls from out of town (she's from NY via Las Vegas) are more reasonably priced? This girl is very pretty and nice, but has one flaw.
Anyway, I met her on SB right by the Chevron station as I was on my way home from the gym. She hopped into the car and exposed a great part of tits to peak my interest. $. 8 for F / S, CBJ, which was great, followed by mish, as she doesn't like to do cg. That isn't the flaw, however. Like many BSW she insists on using Magnum condoms, and I just couldn't feel her. She isn't that tight, so if yu are larger than I am, and thicker, you might have a better experience.
Appearance 9. 5 (she is what BC and DL would term "my type") 5'7", long legs, tiny waist with wide hips and a great pair of tits; Face 9. 5; Attitude 9 (would go higher but she wouldn't do cg, which is my favorite); Price 8; Service 6 (because I couldn't feel her pussy, the head was great). Have the digits for qualified Senior Members. Will probably repeat.
BTW, you can't miss that it's her, she has her name, Chyna tattooed between those awesome breasts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2137151]This is a bit surprising. I have found that the SW's from LV are usually moe expensive. Butb perhpas things have changed for the better. Do mnot see many SW's from LV IN sd these days.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is just that so many of the LA SW are overpricing themselves?
Possibly, but the west coast has been a bit on the high side for years. You can get a BJ on the east coast for $20. The other factor factor is that LE has cracking down in LV, Bay area and Fresno. Just use extra caution until LE settles down.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2137186]Maybe it is just that so many of the LA SW are overpricing themselves?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2137454]Possibly, but the west coast has been a bit on the high side for years. You can get a BJ on the east coast for $20. The other factor factor is that LE has cracking down in LV, Bay area and Fresno. Just use extra caution until LE settles down.[/QUOTE]Or until Nury Martinez moves on to her next crusade? Right now, she keeps pushing LE to put more pressure on the "tricks" preying on the poor girls that are victims of Human trafficking.
Nury Martinez appears to be focusing on cracking down on the massage parlors ([URL]http://westsidetoday.com/2014/06/10/los-angeles-backs-local-control-massage-parlors-regulation/[/URL]). Part of the problem is that many of girls dress so scantily that they draw the ire of the locals. Just look at the way the girls dress on Fig. If more of girls tried to dress normal and fit in with the community there would probably less problems. There has been reports of girls working in National city lately. I have had a chance to go down there much. I am tired of driving half way across and town and coming up empty. About 2 or 3 years ago I good almost always go out and find a good SW without much hassle from the cops.
I used to make the occasional trip to LA / OC and cruise about 5 or 6 years ago. These days it's just not worth driving up and spending $60 worth of gas and not finding and good SW's. The ironic thing is that I have been finding fairly hot SG's from the US in Tijuana.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2137462]Or until Nury Martinez moves on to her next crusade? Right now, she keeps pushing LE to put more pressure on the "tricks" preying on the poor girls that are victims of Human trafficking.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2137501]Nury Martinez appears to be focusing on cracking down on the massage parlors ([URL]http://westsidetoday.com/2014/06/10/los-angeles-backs-local-control-massage-parlors-regulation/[/URL]). Part of the problem is that many of girls dress so scantily that they draw the ire of the locals. Just look at the way the girls dress on Fig. If more of girls tried to dress normal and fit in with the community there would probably less problems. There has been reports of girls working in National city lately. I have had a chance to go down there much. I am tired of driving half way across and town and coming up empty. About 2 or 3 years ago I good almost always go out and find a good SW without much hassle from the cops.
I used to make the occasional trip to LA / OC and cruise about 5 or 6 years ago. These days it's just not worth driving up and spending $60 worth of gas and not finding and good SW's. The ironic thing is that I have been finding fairly hot SG's from the US in Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Nury Martinez is against anyone having sex, anywhere, because, obviously she isn't getting any! Have you seen pics. Takes fugly to a whole new level. She is bitter, and can't stand to see anyone having fun.
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2137151]This is a bit surprising. I have found that the SW's from LV are usually moe expensive. Butb perhpas things have changed for the better. Do mnot see many SW's from LV IN sd these days.[/QUOTE]I think price varies individually. The girls know the going rate on which trax theyre working. The game is more prevalent and cultured in those other cities. As a result I cannot remember getting a bad exp. From a girl from the bay. I love them (usually mixed or latina girls.) When there in town is the most action (from fig to harbor.) Latina I had last night (bay area). I had this convo with her and she replied "your up on your shit"LOL.
But hargow unless you just got to have Blk girls, I envy you being so close to Tijuana!
Personally I am not all that crazy about Tijuana. If I could find the SW's I wanted in SD at a reasonable price in SD I would skip Tijuana altogether. The looks and service from the SG's is hit and miss at best. Unless you find a good regular in Tijuana chances the service will be terrible. There is only about 1 or 2 good looking SG's in Tijuana. It will often take me 1-3 hours to locate a good SG. The other lines are also a big hassle as well. I had to wait 3 hours this past Friday. I keep hoping that there will be more WSW's in Socal. So it's TJ at least for now.
[QUOTE=PoonHound;2137633]I think price varies individually. The girls know the going rate on which trax theyre working. The game is more prevalent and cultured in those other cities. As a result I cannot remember getting a bad exp. From a girl from the bay. I love them (usually mixed or latina girls.) When there in town is the most action (from fig to harbor.) Latina I had last night (bay area). I had this convo with her and she replied "your up on your shit"LOL.
But hargow unless you just got to have Blk girls, I envy you being so close to Tijuana![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2137827]Personally I am not all that crazy about Tijuana. If I could find the SW's I wanted in SD at a reasonable price in SD I would skip Tijuana altogether. The looks and service from the SG's is hit and miss at best. Unless you find a good regular in Tijuana chances the service will be terrible. There is only about 1 or 2 good looking SG's in Tijuana. It will often take me 1-3 hours to locate a good SG. The other lines are also a big hassle as well. I had to wait 3 hours this past Friday. I keep hoping that there will be more WSW's in Socal. So it's TJ at least for now.[/QUOTE]So no strippers for you in the zona norte? I have been with both a long time ago. I would agree (its just a quickie exp.) That really is the case most anywhere most times tho. From reports lately tho, they make it seem like paradise. I have never been to zona norte or hk / adelita. At the adultcon in la they (hk) had a booth, and I wanted to fuck the girls on the spot. I want to go to find one in particular (regardless if the rest of the trip is a bust!
I visit the strip clubs briefly when I am down there. The problem is that the girls at HK want $80 for anything. I am primarily interested in a BJ and is to much for just that.
[QUOTE=PoonHound;2138106]So no strippers for you in the zona norte? I have been with both a long time ago. I would agree (its just a quickie exp.) That really is the case most anywhere most times tho. From reports lately tho, they make it seem like paradise. I have never been to zona norte or hk / adelita. At the adultcon in la they (hk) had a booth, and I wanted to fuck the girls on the spot. I want to go to find one in particular (regardless if the rest of the trip is a bust![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2137520]Nury Martinez is against anyone having sex, anywhere, because, obviously she isn't getting any! Have you seen pics. Takes fugly to a whole new level. She is bitter, and can't stand to see anyone having fun.[/QUOTE]Martinez was not present for the vote on the AMP bill. Maybe she's losing interest it shutting down LA vice finally.
Has anyone seen the blonde MILF that has been at the bus stop in front of the Arco station at Sepulveda and Saticoy recently? I was convinced that she's working, but I've seen her there twice and she's always either looking at her phone or up Sepulveda to look for the bus. Both times I've seen her (last Wednesday and tonight) it was about 9 pm.
She's blonde, in her 40's, a bit of a worn face, and tan with great legs. She was wearing really short jean shorts both times I saw her. Does anyone know if she's working? If so, has anyone picked her up? I'm thinking she might work at the Godfather strip club up the street, but I'm not sure. She may just be ultra cautious, but I've done everything except walk up and talk to her. I got gas both times and she won't make eye contact with anyone.
I drive north on Sepulveda from the 101 to Nordhoff every day after work and last week was the first time I had ever seen her. I'll try to take a picture next time she's there. I'd love to hear any info if someone has seen her. Thanks.
I wish I could say that they've lightened up. But they haven't vice is still been out there everyday there's just some days you don't see them. It Idoesn't help that there's been so many girls coming out the palm tree with all their pimps hanging out at 711 the whole weekend. They just did a sting that started at 10 pm Monday till 3 am Tuesday morning I caught the end of it. Had it set up from roscoe and up. Heard they caught 14 that night.
I had to go towards staticoy that morning the be&W were so bad that morning.
Everyone be safebout there.
Kisses Carrie.
[QUOTE=NaughtyCarrie;2140136]I wish I could say that they've lightened up. But they haven't vice is still been out there everyday there's just some days you don't see them. It Idoesn't help that there's been so many girls coming out the palm tree with all their pimps hanging out at 711 the whole weekend. They just did a sting that started at 10 pm Monday till 3 am Tuesday morning I caught the end of it. Had it set up from roscoe and up. Heard they caught 14 that night.
I had to go towards staticoy that morning the be&W were so bad that morning.
Everyone be safebout there.
Kisses Carrie.[/QUOTE]Was that 14 SW, or 14 "clients"? Most of the stings have been aimed at the men IMHO, not at the girls. When they decide to roust the girls they just pull up in their squad cars and bust them.
[QUOTE=Marlowe;2140605]Was that 14 SW, or 14 "clients"? Most of the stings have been aimed at the men IMHO, not at the girls. When they decide to roust the girls they just pull up in their squad cars and bust them.[/QUOTE]I've been told by a few girls that LE on SB send out an undercover who chats them up in the car about menu and price then a squad car will arrest them ten or fifteen minutes later. If true, they're obviously trying to keep the girls from recognizing unmarked cars and uc officers.
Anyways, there were quite a few BSW out after midnight tonight a really hot, stacked, young thing in a hot pink top. Wasn't able to get her in the car. Apparently she had gotten her marching orders from a patrol car. Anyone else see her by chance? Was also checking out a great looking BSW in a nice white mini who I think goes by the name of Summer. Alas she disappeared on me. Looks like the weekend could be a fun one.
I know that some girls got it for sure so it could have been both. A guy I dated awhile back had stopped to give me heads up that morning. I was already wondering what was going in I didn't see a single ho and I drive from Vanowen to nordoff everynite before I park. I didn't see no one any where at first. After walking around I only seen 2 ghetto bitchs sitting at the bus stop and one looking like she was trying to hide at the 7-11 with be&w everywhere. I kept it pushing to saticoy.
No there not just going after the guys there tough on us. The difference is vice hits us at different times due to the fact we change are hours to try and get away. I've been out there almost a year now and if you see 20 girls between 5 pm to 10 pm theyll do it then if the girls are out 12 am to 9 am they move to that time.
As for thr be&WS they only really take you if you have warrents or they told you to leave and you don't. I've noticed latley that theyve been picking and chooseing who they fuck with up by roscoe. I ve seen them pass 2-3 girls standing around and stop the one a block up. But both sides have been handing out jaywalking & stopping traffic tickets like they where giving candy to little kids.
What is up with this newer crop of girls on SB charging by the 1/2 hour or hour, rather than for specific acts? Are they refugees from MRB? Today, met Rachel, who was cute about 5'5", but she wanted $2! Somebody needs to clue these girls that you don't get that walking, because there are girls of equal quality for $. 8 and sometimes less.