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Same here
[QUOTE=Dbuys;5914507]I've never met her but agree with your assessment. Every time I renew she's messaging me trying to meet up right away. I'm guessing she's high volume and would negotiate but I've never been interested enough to pursue.[/QUOTE]Nope never met her yet and I don't intend to. She actually DELETED my number saying she cannot wait, she definitely seems high volume.
On another note.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a6ba4219-282e-43c5-8a03-68c49b5bc6cf[/URL]
400 ppm. If you like plus size.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0386e9f0-44f5-4df9-bfe9-9c18db817d01[/URL]
Virtual. Stay away from this one, virtual meet for a week, 2nd one I've encountered like that. First one wanted $100 for the week before agreeing to meet in person. Sounds like a scam.
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[QUOTE=HpyGolky;5914698]What was your offer?[/QUOTE]The usual $.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5913398][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32df892d-f1a6-4ba1-8cc1-17a9f115d247[/URL]
400 ppm. Seems a bit impatience if you don't see her right away.
[/QUOTE]I don't know about you guys but it seems like the quicker you meet the better off things go.
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Intel on five women.
Was in town recently and saw these five women. All were on time. Covered (though I didn't inquire about bare).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32df892d-f1a6-4ba1-8cc1-17a9f115d247[/URL]
$500 (guess I overpaid! Given the other comment about her. Didn't kiss).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8a012ac-6115-47bc-8998-d48f984728f5[/URL]
$400 - heavy smoker, looks a bit better in the photos, swallowed on the second round.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/79f1f458-f60a-4123-a3eb-3a3044f3d9bd[/URL]
$500.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/211bb90e-2a21-4b9f-aa8b-878a4d665c73[/URL]
$1000. I'd definitely repeat.
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Good reviews
[QUOTE=PnwGord;5916031]Was in town recently and saw these five women. All were on time. Covered (though I didn't inquire about bare).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32df892d-f1a6-4ba1-8cc1-17a9f115d247[/URL]
$500 (guess I overpaid! Given the other comment about her. Didn't kiss).
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8a012ac-6115-47bc-8998-d48f984728f5[/URL]
$400 - heavy smoker, looks a bit better in the photos, swallowed on the second round.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/79f1f458-f60a-4123-a3eb-3a3044f3d9bd[/URL]
$500.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/211bb90e-2a21-4b9f-aa8b-878a4d665c73[/URL]
$1000. I'd definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]Nice, good stuff. I noticed ppm seems to "Fluctuates". Ppm prices could be cheaper on weeknights vs weekends.
I agreed that the quicker you meet the better. But personally I prefer to do "meet and greet" which 99% will not do (without compensation) before ppm.
I did manage to find an unicorn that was willing to meet first and that worked out great.
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Kae
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/190e3146-ef84-4156-b203-035bc0cceb6d[/URL]
Avoid this one. "I never get offered less than $1000 and $1500 is my usual amount. I assume being offered $1000 you are cheap and you are not going to get my best effort" If you don't respond right away to her texts she gets really pissy.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5916470]Nice, good stuff. I noticed ppm seems to "Fluctuates". Ppm prices could be cheaper on weeknights vs weekends.
I agreed that the quicker you meet the better. But personally I prefer to do "meet and greet" which 99% will not do (without compensation) before ppm.
I did manage to find an unicorn that was willing to meet first and that worked out great.[/QUOTE]IDK, in L. A. Mostly I skip the M&G's but in vegas mostly I do them, never paid for one in 20 years though.
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Did an M&G today after work about 5. We had a nice chat in the car in an out of the way casino parking lot. That went well and she agreed to drive to my place later at night. We live on opposite sides of vegas so it was going to be a 90 minute RT drive for her. I couldn't get a great look at her body as I met her right after her work and she was was totally covered up in baggy clothes. But she had a sweet disposition and looked pretty tiny overall so I took the plunge.
She was a little late arriving but no big deal. Turned out she had a tight spinner body as good as any younger girl (she was late 20's). Good kisser, took direction well, no anal but FIA no problem. Not super pretty but very girly and submissive. The first thing she told me was she just wanted me to be happy and to just tell her what to do.
When you are cutting corners (and even if you're not) you never know for sure how it's going to turn out. But this one turned out fine. Definitely repeatable, and especially for the $ donation. Sorry no link to the profile. Maybe a pic later.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5917079]IDK, in L. A. Mostly I skip the M&G's but in vegas mostly I do them, never paid for one in 20 years though.[/QUOTE]But just to qualify. I have taken girls to breakfast, lunch or dinner with no guarantee of hitting the FC. But always keep it reasonable.
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M&G bust
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5917210]Did an M&G today after work about 5. We had a nice chat in the car in an out of the way casino parking lot. That went well and she agreed to drive to my place later at night. We live on opposite sides of vegas so it was going to be a 90 minute RT drive for her. I couldn't get a great look at her body as I met her right after her work and she was was totally covered up in baggy clothes. But she had a sweet disposition and looked pretty tiny overall so I took the plunge.
She was a little late arriving but no big deal. Turned out she had a tight spinner body as good as any younger girl (she was late 20's). Good kisser, took direction well, no anal but FIA no problem. Not super pretty but very girly and submissive. The first thing she told me was she just wanted me to be happy and to just tell her what to do.
When you are cutting corners (and even if you're not) you never know for sure how it's going to turn out. But this one turned out fine. Definitely repeatable, and especially for the $ donation. Sorry no link to the profile. Maybe a pic later.[/QUOTE]Nice, my M&G was a bust, she wanted way more than I expected and I should have been more upfront about it before the meet. I'm still new and trying to figure things out, do you normally do these M&G in or near the casino? My first one was in a casino bar. 2nd was not.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5917805]Nice, my M&G was a bust, she wanted way more than I expected and I should have been more upfront about it before the meet. I'm still new and trying to figure things out, do you normally do these M&G in or near the casino? My first one was in a casino bar. 2nd was not.[/QUOTE]First of all I always get a firm commitment on the allowance amount before the M&G. I hate any mystery in that area. Here is some sample text once the dollar amount has been set.
"ok great. And I doubt I need to say it. But just to be clear. If we only go eat or hang out. And that's it. Then I will only cover any out of pocket dating expenses. But if it goes beyond that to an intimate date, then I will add in the allowance. Like a meet up that could turn into something more, or not, depending on how we vibe. So if you're OK with that, then lets" (meet, txt, etc)(depending on where you are in the convo).
And I will meet a girl anywhere, but usually I just like to chat in the car as it allows for the most spontaneity depending on how things go.
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M&g
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5917980]First of all I always get a firm commitment on the allowance amount before the M&G. I hate any mystery in that area. Here is some sample text once the dollar amount has been set.
"ok great. And I doubt I need to say it. But just to be clear. If we only go eat or hang out. And that's it. Then I will only cover any out of pocket dating expenses. But if it goes beyond that to an intimate date, then I will add in the allowance. Like a meet up that could turn into something more, or not, depending on how we vibe. So if you're OK with that, then lets" (meet, txt, etc)(depending on where you are in the convo).
And I will meet a girl anywhere, but usually I just like to chat in the car as it allows for the most spontaneity depending on how things go.[/QUOTE]Oh you're very wise, I have much to learn. Yes normally I always check their PPM rate before M&G but this one I slipped up since I've been chatting her up quite a bit before the M&G. It was also strange we never exchanged digits and all communications were via seek. I'm taking notes and thank you very much for you help.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5918098]Oh you're very wise, I have much to learn. Yes normally I always check their PPM rate before M&G but this one I slipped up since I've been chatting her up quite a bit before the M&G. It was also strange we never exchanged digits and all communications were via seek. I'm taking notes and thank you very much for you help.[/QUOTE]Also keep the chatting to the bare minimum. It's a time waster. Partially because no matter how much rapport you think you have nothing is going to be totally decided until you meet. I mean you want to get the basics out of the way, but that's about it. Small talk of any kind is a waste. And never ask for pics unless you really can not decide based on the ones you have already seen publicly.
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Rookie mistake
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5918257]Also keep the chatting to the bare minimum. It's a time waster. Partially because no matter how much rapport you think you have nothing is going to be totally decided until you meet. I mean you want to get the basics out of the way, but that's about it. Small talk of any kind is a waste. And never ask for pics unless you really can not decide based on the ones you have already seen publicly.[/QUOTE]Yes wise one, I definitely made the mistake of chatting too much. I should just get straight to the point and grab the basic info. I never asked for pics unless they send them (which a few did over text) they must think I'll go gaga over pics.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5894625]"I truly can offer some of the best conversation of any girls on here".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9ecf1cb3-4622-4c6f-8141-46d982c41206[/URL]
Not sure that's really a closing line for me. Obvious GPS. Did not reply to her. When I know I am not in the game I just hide and move on.[/QUOTE]And all the over-photoshopped or snapchat filters that become surreal. Who know what would show up! LOL.
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Edc
With EDC coming up, most likely quite a few SBs are traveling here. Might be good time to actually meet them. And if you have EDC tickets, that might be a good bargaining chip. Just a thought.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5917210]Did an M&G today after work about 5. We had a nice chat in the car in an out of the way casino parking lot. That went well and she agreed to drive to my place later at night. We live on opposite sides of vegas so it was going to be a 90 minute RT drive for her. I couldn't get a great look at her body as I met her right after her work and she was was totally covered up in baggy clothes. But she had a sweet disposition and looked pretty tiny overall so I took the plunge.
She was a little late arriving but no big deal. Turned out she had a tight spinner body as good as any younger girl (she was late 20's). Good kisser, took direction well, no anal but FIA no problem. Not super pretty but very girly and submissive. The first thing she told me was she just wanted me to be happy and to just tell her what to do.
When you are cutting corners (and even if you're not) you never know for sure how it's going to turn out. But this one turned out fine. Definitely repeatable, and especially for the $ donation. Sorry no link to the profile. Maybe a pic later.[/QUOTE]Tried to make date #2 with this one. She tried to upsell me to $$ or said I could ask for a lot less in the FC. I told her I would think about it. Yeah for like 2 seconds. When I am in the FC I max these girls out. I know they are thinking it's going to be a lot less. Oh well. On to the next one.
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I know
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5923830]Tried to make date #2 with this one. She tried to upsell me to $$ or said I could ask for a lot less in the FC. I told her I would think about it. Yeah for like 2 seconds. When I am in the FC I max these girls out. I know they are thinking it's going to be a lot less. Oh well. On to the next one.[/QUOTE]You don't generally share pics / links, but can we get a pic or link here now that you won't be seeing her again?
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Seek
Not a lot to report, things definitely slowed down a bit.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/191617c8-c6ab-48e6-b491-b5dbf2fad2cb[/URL]
550 ppm. Trying to get a m&g going but haven't heard back in a few days.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c152457-1ed1-4b12-8d31-2fa8c61b102a[/URL]
Unknown. This one is in town for EDC, might be fun, didn't get rates yet.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5923830]Tried to make date #2 with this one. She tried to upsell me to $$ or said I could ask for a lot less in the FC. I told her I would think about it. Yeah for like 2 seconds. When I am in the FC I max these girls out. I know they are thinking it's going to be a lot less. Oh well. On to the next one.[/QUOTE]Forgive my ignorance. What does FC stand for?
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[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5924167]Forgive my ignorance. What does FC stand for?[/QUOTE]FC == Fuck Chamber. AKA a hotel room, bedroom, or a place where an SB lets you insert your pecker inside them. I have to admit I'm surprised to see that question from you, given your success running around the bowl.
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[QUOTE=Dbuys;5923904]You don't generally share pics / links, but can we get a pic or link here now that you won't be seeing her again?[/QUOTE]just not comfortable with that.... sorry
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[QUOTE=Dbuys;5923904]You don't generally share pics / links, but can we get a pic or link here now that you won't be seeing her again?[/QUOTE]But when she txt me again, if she txts me again I will see if she is ok with giving out her #.
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Asked me for 5 bills. New in town. Not for me. Probably negotiable.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4298f794-c67d-4954-85eb-1d51f703c121[/URL]
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Double trouble
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4298f794-c67d-4954-85eb-1d51f703c121[/URL]
600 ppm. Only here a few days, travels back and forth.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18489479-bccb-41b9-8fbf-90f295bea597[/URL]
600 ppm (each) - Double trouble, photos don't quite match up with what was sent. Possible ROB or rotating girls.
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Very polite. But when you're reaching for the stars, that's the way it should be.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d10bbd28-0e4e-4449-afe5-5ca7405b6942[/URL]
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Gps
This one is asking 800. Did not indulge.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ec186d00-38db-4a4d-b2b9-f41e1be3f11d[/URL]
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Crazy scammer
This one immediately gave me her number without even asking. When I texted her she asked if she could "tell me her story". She then proceeded to bombard me with pre written lengthy texts about the hardships in her family.
I blocked her number and am blocking her on SA right after this post. Steer clear.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a278dabf-3092-47e0-bff4-66ed122b94b7[/URL]
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Oh boy
[QUOTE=JimRob;5927981]This one immediately gave me her number without even asking. When I texted her she asked if she could "tell me her story". She then proceeded to bombard me with pre written lengthy texts about the hardships in her family.
I blocked her number and am blocking her on SA right after this post. Steer clear.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a278dabf-3092-47e0-bff4-66ed122b94b7[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for the heads up, I viewed her profile and now she "favorite" me. Not looking good. I might play along and see if she'll also "tell me her story".
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Hmm.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5926255]Asked me for 5 bills. New in town. Not for me. Probably negotiable.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4298f794-c67d-4954-85eb-1d51f703c121[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like she reached out to me after I looked at her profile. Odd how she quoted you 5 and me 6. That's just great, I get to pay extra.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5928412]Looks like she reached out to me after I looked at her profile. Odd how she quoted you 5 and me 6. That's just great, I get to pay extra.[/QUOTE]I read a post that said the numbers were up due to only fans and other similar types of platforms. It does make some sense. I think they just throw shit out there randomly. Probably would take $$$ if you pressed her.
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It's crazy times
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5928492]I read a post that said the numbers were up due to only fans and other similar types of platforms. It does make some sense. I think they just throw shit out there randomly. Probably would take $$$ if you pressed her.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I haven't ran into ANY that's 300.400 is the lowest it seems. If I don't like the numbers I just move on, one I ignored for only 3 minutes (via text) and the price already went down by 100.
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5928622]Agreed, I haven't ran into ANY that's 300.400 is the lowest it seems. If I don't like the numbers I just move on, one I ignored for only 3 minutes (via text) and the price already went down by 100.[/QUOTE]There is an old saying that "he who owns the gold makes the rules". Now we all know a lot of those girls think their pussy is worth more than gold. But you just have to create your budget and then stick to it. I mean I'd like a new BMW but for now I'll stick with the old reliable one I have. It might not be as flashy but it takes me where I want to go.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5917210]Did an M&G today after work about 5. We had a nice chat in the car in an out of the way casino parking lot. That went well and she agreed to drive to my place later at night. We live on opposite sides of vegas so it was going to be a 90 minute RT drive for her. I couldn't get a great look at her body as I met her right after her work and she was was totally covered up in baggy clothes. But she had a sweet disposition and looked pretty tiny overall so I took the plunge.
She was a little late arriving but no big deal. Turned out she had a tight spinner body as good as any younger girl (she was late 20's). Good kisser, took direction well, no anal but FIA no problem. Not super pretty but very girly and submissive. The first thing she told me was she just wanted me to be happy and to just tell her what to do.
When you are cutting corners (and even if you're not) you never know for sure how it's going to turn out. But this one turned out fine. Definitely repeatable, and especially for the $ donation. Sorry no link to the profile. Maybe a pic later.[/QUOTE]Finally did hear back from this one. I stopped texting her when she said it had to be $$ per date. Slender, sweet no drama. Senior members can PM me for her # as I have permission from her to give it out. She is a mobile AA girl, lives near south point. Bare with test results? I had a good time but as always YMMV.
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300
Finally got one that quoted 300.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/827df0e0-801d-49ba-ab4c-dc1d2a8ce2f2[/URL]
Seems nice and everything if you don't mind a few extra pounds.
Things been slow I'm guessing due to EDC weekend.
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How are you approaching these girls? Thats a $100-150 girl if I have ever seen one. I have a 5-10% hit rate on 300 or less rates with 8+ non-AA girls in the 18-23 age range and my approach isn't that impressive (and apparently got me banned but whatever).
I just have a cut and paste message that offers $200 and spam it to everyone I find remotely attractive.
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5932794]Finally got one that quoted 300.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/827df0e0-801d-49ba-ab4c-dc1d2a8ce2f2[/URL]
Seems nice and everything if you don't mind a few extra pounds.
Things been slow I'm guessing due to EDC weekend.[/QUOTE]
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Sadly I'm not loaded
[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5932985]How are you approaching these girls? Thats a $100-150 girl if I have ever seen one. I have a 5-10% hit rate on 300 or less rates with 8+ non-AA girls in the 18-23 age range and my approach isn't that impressive (and apparently got me banned but whatever).
I just have a cut and paste message that offers $200 and spam it to everyone I find remotely attractive.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I'm reporting what the girls are quoting me after some small talk (some takes longer on seek or text) I've only done 2 M&G and trying to get 2 more setup so it's a slow process. I'm only doing M&G where I'll comp them (cover drinks, uber ride or gas money to the meet, etc) and if we vibe we move onto ppm that night or later date.
I usually spam favorites them instead of messaging them first, if they favorite back, then I decide if I want to move forward. I try to avoid under 21 but some young ones still hit me up.
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3rd M&G
Finally got my 3rd M&G, this was in Downtown Fremont, I knew I wanted her when I saw her. Smoking bod, pics definitely don't do her justice.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfbd286a-7b6d-44ee-8402-e00ec6dad9f9[/URL]
600 ppm. Non rush, BBBJ, covered but sounds like bare might be possible. Will repeat when I have more funds. Only downside I say is no DFK, threat her well and she'll treat you well.
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Saw her in Cali a year or two ago. She has a decent body but is older. I got BBFS and she was only 300 back then.
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5937476]Finally got my 3rd M&G, this was in Downtown Fremont, I knew I wanted her when I saw her. Smoking bod, pics definitely don't do her justice.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfbd286a-7b6d-44ee-8402-e00ec6dad9f9[/URL]
600 ppm. Non rush, BBBJ, covered but sounds like bare might be possible. Will repeat when I have more funds. Only downside I say is no DFK, threat her well and she'll treat you well.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;5937476]Finally got my 3rd M&G, this was in Downtown Fremont, I knew I wanted her when I saw her. Smoking bod, pics definitely don't do her justice.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cfbd286a-7b6d-44ee-8402-e00ec6dad9f9[/URL]
600 ppm. Non rush, BBBJ, covered but sounds like bare might be possible. Will repeat when I have more funds. Only downside I say is no DFK, threat her well and she'll treat you well.[/QUOTE]Did you negotiate at all? You probably could've had her for 400 or less. She regularly creates new profiles and every time I'm active she messages me and comes after me hard. A pro SB for sure. Nothing wrong with that as long as you had a good time. I think she quoted me $500 last time I asked her what she was looking for. She didn't respond to my text when I told her I don't give allowances to ladies around my age, LOL.
