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[QUOTE=Goodson2000;3449007]It is often explained why Dayton, OH that it is intersection of busy I-70 and I-75. I don't buy it. Then why not more populous Indianapolis or St. Louis? There must be something about Dayton.[/QUOTE]Dayton is the crossroads. Population densities have really nothing to do with it. Its more due to the traffic points. Smack, Coke and most other import drugs just don't come across the Mexican border. A lot does but much of it goes up the west coast. What goes through here is a mixed bag of trafficers moving shit from the East Coast west, Canadian border South and west, South stuff North and east and every one inbetween. Shipments of junk are moved at almost every port of call including the Great Lakes. Many of the middlemen meet in this area to make the deals. Gangs and Cartels, Mafias, and Bikers. Rich dealers also come here. Truckers are often used, mostly for the lesser evils but the gist is the 70/75 interchange leads to EVERYWHERE. This is why they use that term.

True story: Not that long ago at the height of Cocaine being king that a small city police force led by a corrupt chief were the biggest coke middlemen in the country. Why? Because of 70/75 and a van dealer who could haul it. The moved van loads of the stuff to every major city in America. It would come straight up 75 from Miami and then they would deliver it everywhere from here. Never got busted. Only people talking about it made them paranoid enough to finally shut down.

We have such a supply here that its dirt cheap. The stuff getting here isn't stomped on by lower level dealers stretching it out to make more money. Its at its best here making OD's more common. Its truely alarming that its that way but until LEO can get a handle on it we are stuck with that moniker.

Stay safe.

Buzz.

It could be that heroin is trafficked by air coming thru the airforce base from countires such as Mexico, Columbia, and Afghanistan.

[QUOTE=Goodson2000;3449007]It is often explained why Dayton, OH that it is intersection of busy I-70 and I-75. I don't buy it. Then why not more populous Indianapolis or St. Louis? There must be something about Dayton.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MasterR;3449107]It could be that heroin is trafficked by air coming thru the airforce base from countires such as Mexico, Columbia, and Afghanistan.[/QUOTE]Heroin comes from or I should say through Mexico via the drug cartels. Fentanyl is manufactured in China and flies to Mexico where it is shipped via the drug cartels. Mexican produce shippers are often unwilling participants in the shipping. It will not stop until the demand dries up. Billions of dollars are leaving our country annually. The money you spend on opiate addicted providers fuels this industry. We all here are guilty. That sir, is a fact.

[URL]http://wdtn.com/2016/11/28/dayton-woman-arrested-for-soliciting-while-knowingly-contracted-with-hiv/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Allis;3449412]Heroin comes from or I should say through Mexico via the drug cartels. Fentanyl is manufactured in China and flies to Mexico where it is shipped via the drug cartels. Mexican produce shippers are often unwilling participants in the shipping. It will not stop until the demand dries up. Billions of dollars are leaving our country annually. The money you spend on opiate addicted providers fuels this industry. We all here are guilty. That sir, is a fact.[/QUOTE]Even more then enabling the users, this is the issue that I have the most trouble rationalizing. Not that it has caused me to stop completely, but I don't like to spend too much time thinking about where my money ends up. MC.

Let us also add that the heroin is manufactured in Afghanistan where 95% of the world's opium, poppy plants, is grown. They're not going to ship the unprocessed opium to this part of the world, that's why they make the heroin in Afghanistan. Surprise, surprise: We have been there for the last 16 years and now the heroin problem becomes more of an issue than it was beforehand. What is quite funny, Iran and Russia have a higher heroin addiction problem than we do.

[QUOTE=Allis;3449412]Heroin comes from or I should say through Mexico via the drug cartels. Fentanyl is manufactured in China and flies to Mexico where it is shipped via the drug cartels. Mexican produce shippers are often unwilling participants in the shipping. It will not stop until the demand dries up. Billions of dollars are leaving our country annually. The money you spend on opiate addicted providers fuels this industry. We all here are guilty. That sir, is a fact.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hofan58;3450565][URL]http://wdtn.com/2016/11/28/dayton-woman-arrested-for-soliciting-while-knowingly-contracted-with-hiv/[/URL][/QUOTE]This is a 2016 news report. The lady mentioned in the report has been staying at a B&B in Marysville. She will likely checkout sometime in 2018. Nevertheless, it is always a good idea to be aware.

Not as much from the Stan anymore.

Another sad, local news story.

[URL]http://www.whio.com/news/crime--law/local-baby-girl-dies-due-carfentanil-fentanyl-intoxication-while-with-grandmother/AgQfekTNFVH77t4uhn0ZsJ/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MontyCliff;3450593]Even more then enabling the users, this is the issue that I have the most trouble rationalizing. Not that it has caused me to stop completely, but I don't like to spend too much time thinking about where my money ends up. MC.[/QUOTE]We repeatedly see guys use phrases like "no signs of addiction". They might mean that the addiction isn't showing. As in it's not obvious because she looks relatively healthy and isn't nodding off or acting strangely. But I believe there are many who take that as "she's not on drugs".

Same thing when guys mention the litany of "kids, school, bills" as reasons why girls do this. Almost entirely, in this country at least, hookers are addicts. They may have kids. They may have bills. They may have tried going to school and are taking a break. But we should not kid ourselves. Lots of women with kids and bills and school manage to get by without sucking dick every day for money. And if these girls were actually not blowing it on drugs, they would be making way more than most of the men here, tax free.

There is no excuse. In America, if you are paying women for sex, you are supporting drug addicts and likely their boyfriends, who buy from drug dealers who kick up and up to people we should bury in the ground with military or revolutionary force. That's a man's choice. But the delusion that gets shared and propped up on a regular basis is ridiculous.

[blue]There are two sad things here.

1. I think you're wrong with this idea that every chick in the US who is selling pussy is a junkie. I think that's the anti prostitution people's propaganda working.

2. In countries were selling pussy is legal there are hardly any junkies. They can't compete with the hotties that want to make more money than they can with regular jobs.

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If there were ever a case for a burner.

[URL]http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/parma_man_charged_with_having.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Terak0306;3461246]If there were ever a case for a burner.

[URL]http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/parma_man_charged_with_having.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Or don't meet up with underage girls that you pick up from foster homes. I think that might be the bigger lesson here.

[QUOTE=ProVid;3460898]

[blue]There are two sad things here.

1. I think you're wrong with this idea that every chick in the US who is selling pussy is a junkie. I think that's the anti prostitution people's propaganda working.

2. In countries were selling pussy is legal there are hardly any junkies. They can't compete with the hotties that want to make more money than they can with regular jobs.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]2. I dispute the idea that there won't always be illegal product in a market regardless of superior legal product being available. That's a different discussion however. I think making it legal would be a good thing, overall. People should be able to do what they want and sex for money is not inherently wrong in my opinion.

1. Can I ask why would you think this is true? Based on what data or experience? You aren't here. You aren't seeing these girls and you probably don't do any research about them or keep tabs on them. I expect you have limited contact with some here, a tiny minority.

I am here,

[blue]You are in Dayton, fucking the limited number of chicks you fuck and you have the hubris to say that ALL working girls are junkies. I carry on correspondence with a lot of the chicks that advertise here and we have 4,000 of them registered on the other site.

I've been clean for several decades, since I am one, I know junkies when I see them. I'm seeing a small percentage of the chicks that advertise on our site that show any of the classic signs of heroin addiction. Some yes, but the majority, no way.

However please feel free to believe as you wish. Just don't post that bullshit here as fact. I would grant that from what I see in the news, Ohio does seem to be particularly hard hit by this smack invasion and that might color your thinking.

If you want to continue this move it to the stupid shit thread. If you keep posting it here I'm going to delete it.

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I have seen a number of the ladies that post on BP. I know many other mongers have too. We have all run into junkies I'm sure, if you haven't you've been lucky. From those I have personally seen only a few have been on the junk. Sure theres been a few who use other means of getting high but for the most part the majority arent on the junk. I won't repeat with the ones on junk. If they smoke weed or drink I don't have an issue. This is not only in Dayton but I play in the Cincy market as well. For anyone to say they are all junkies you are sadly mistaken. Its either that or you have bad taste and just pick the wrong ones.

Stay safe.

Buzz.

[QUOTE=Terak0306;3461246]If there were ever a case for a burner.

[URL]http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2016/05/parma_man_charged_with_having.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah how about you just don't buy juveniles that are being sex trafficked.