Not Getting What You Want As A Method of Safety?
[QUOTE=Strange;4615258]Never discuss any services with a girl over your phone, it makes you look like uncle LEO. Discuss time and money and that's it. Be quite handsy when you meet and you'll have a great time. Take that lesson and let it sink in. It protects you and the girl. [b] If you discuss things ahead of time you can be arrested upon arrival if it is a sting.[/b] If you have things that are really specific save it for the second date or discuss it after you already started having fun. In this hobby the only person whos gonna keep you out of jail is you.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree with this advice. First, if you follow the rules there is no way for LE to connect you to any text messages or phone calls. Oh, I guess if you are using a phone registered in your name and you carry the cell phone into the date, then yeah, you provide the proof needed to confirm you are the person sending the texts or making the call. But no cell phone into the date, burner phone layered with an app number would require a BUNCH of search warrants, time & effort that is just not cost effective for a misdemeanor crime. Would love to see actual reports where mongers were arrested on arrival, without actually saying anything to UCLE, based on just text / phone conversations. Wonder how a case with no direct evidence would survive in court?
Second, this advice leaves one open to asking about services at the date. THAT is exactly what LE wants you to do talk about things in their presence. In fact, without such a conversation, one should not be able to be nicked. Oh sure, LE can arrest you for anything, be it true or not, but talking services and funds at the same time is the definition of a crime. But not knowing what is on the menu is IMHO a recipe for wasted funds and disappointing dates.
Third, this advice means that one has to be willing to throw away hundreds of dollars in "trial runs!" If one is going to commit 150/200/250+ on a date are they willing to toss that away when the girl stops you mid date and says, "Oh, I don't do that!" If there are things you want that might not be the usual, then it makes sense to ask up front so one can walk away from a date before you waste anyone's time.
While being super conservative is one way to stay safe, I think there are other methods and techniques one can use to achieve the same goals. But hey! YMMV!