Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

[QUOTE=Forth Ryte]I call into question whether you can draw a line about who is or is not a "monger" by what they like to do with the SWs. I don't want to get philisophical but, what is a "monger"?

Although its not an abbreviation like RTFF, the forum abbraviations section defines "Monger - Short for W h o r e monger. One who frequents prostitutes."

True, the most common thing guys do with an SW is to fuck or get a bj, but if a guy wants to indulge his personal favorite sexual activity and get off without sticking his dick in her pussy or mouth, is he not a monger? We all have our favorite things we like to do. One of the great advantages of an SW is that they are not our girlfriends and are open to almost anything.

I don't personally understand foot fetishes, but I've been told by SWs that this is one of the most common thing they are asked for: a foot job. Or if a guy is an exhibitionist and wants to whack off while a girl watches, he can get an SW into his car, drive around or park somewhere, do his thing and he got what he wanted. Or what if he doesn't get off while she is in the car but he talks dirty or asks her to masterbate or only wants to touch her tits....

The range of "sexual activity" that guys like would surprise most of us. To my mind, so long as he goes to an SW for the opportunity to use her to get off in whatever way he wants, he is a monger. Its all about the fact that these girls are promiscuous and are there to be used.

That said, we should still treat them like humans.

Just one guy's humble opinion.

-- Forth Ryte[/QUOTE]

I think you missed my point completely regarding the difference in my mind between a thrill seeker and a monger. I was not distinguishing on the basis of what a guy likes to do sexually. I don't care what floats a guy's boat, sexually or otherwise. But a "monger" to me is someone who actually [b]PAYS[/b] for sexual activity. "Frequenting prostitutes" to me implies that one is paying them, unless you have discovered the holy grail, a pro who does it for free (which would be an oxymoron since a pro IS someone whom, by definition, is [b]paid[/b] for sex acts, regardless of the type). A "monger" IMHO is not someone who cruises the Ave just to window shop, lets SWs in his car just to see their tits (with no intention of paying them for a damn thing), or just gets off (literally or mentally) talking about his fetishes with a girl (again, no intention of actually paying her for this). I would hardly place any of these activities in the category of "frequenting prostitutes."

[QUOTE=Mythbuster]From your intel there seems to be a whole lot more bbfs going than we thought. Current trend, now that everyone has forgotten about HIV.

So your DTs have talked about us mongers, how many are saying yes to bbfs?[/QUOTE]

I didn't say there was a whole lot more BBFS going on. I said that Deep Throat claims 60-70% of mongers are seeking it. None of the Deep Throats fuck bareback, for ANY amount of money, and they have been offered premium pay for it.

Most SWs only know a few other SWs at the most. They are busy plying their trade, not making friends with their competitors. So the best overall intel on actual BBFS would be from us mongers. I think the knuckleheads who seek BBFS are either unlikely readers of this forum, or would be embarrassed to admit how stupid they are by engaging in BBFS. But I could be wrong. Are there any mongers out there who do this? And, if you do, please enlighten me as to why in the HELL you would do such a crazy thing. You could probably make a lot of money in Russian roulette gambling contests if you are such a risk taker.

Just to chime in, I've been in the game for about 12 years and during that time I've only been offered BBFS once, (I refused of course). I'm thinking in this day and age it's got to be a very rare act, I mean to do a civvi BB is taking a serious risk but a SW that's like suicide. Just my 2cents.

Wrap that Rascal for Pete's Sake
BadBoy

I dated Samantha (her real name is Marie/Maria?) last fall, but I didn’t recognize this 19 year old at all on the street, and not even up close when she got in, until I saw the two tattooed tears flowing from her left eye that symbolize the passing of her mother and father. The last time I saw her she was considerably thinner and had longer blond hair. This time her hair was much shorter and fuller and black, and she had become quite chubby. She came out of a 4 month stay with the state in September for smoking weed, being arrested, and then violating her parole. All things considered, I think she got off easy.

Samantha’s story is a sad one for those of you who may not know it. She became an orphan at the age of 13, and her other relatives had no interest in taking care of her so she bounced from house to house to live with anyone who would take care of her. By age 14 she was on the street hooking to make a living and has been doing that ever since. As we were driving to the notel she pointed out the former bar (now a restaurant) on Roosevelt Boulevard where she remembered turning her first trick. She remembered that it was “some Mexican guy.”

Samantha’s attitude when I dated her in the fall was pretty cold, and I was put off by it. We went for a quick daytime BJ date in my car and she seemed just in a hurry to hustle me for more money (which she didn't get), and then get the deed over with ASAP and not do a good job. This time at least I was able to take some pics and she was anxious to see what they looked like on every shot, and she said, “Wow, I should be a model, huh?” She is cute, but I didn’t have the heart to tell her that she needs to lose about 30 pounds to be in model territory. She can be photogenic and sexy when she puts her mind down to it, but she wasn’t much for my taking shots of her in the buff. Most of the shots she let me take were clothed and semi-clothed, and a few naked shots and a few of her sucking my cock, but she became very anxious just to “get down to business.” She had not mentioned money in the car on the trip to the notel, or even what I had planned, and was very easy to negotiate with, although she tried to highball me from my offer of the usual .5 rate for FS. But she quickly realized she was not dealing with an inexperienced monger and settled for my offer, which she stuffed in one of her socks.

The BJ was a little better than last time but lackluster. I was so horny though that I was almost instantly hard enough for a cat to scratch it, and she took this as a signal that I should be ready to fuck. I guess her idea of FS is that the suck part is just to get you hard for the fuck part. I told her to suck on me a little more, and not be so impatient. So she did, although her technique wasn’t anything outstanding. She finally lay on the bed with her legs spread and big grin on her face and said,” Fuck me, Daddy. Stick that big thing in me. You want to fuck me hard, don’t you?” Whether she knew I liked the Daddy thing or not, what she said pushed the right buttons and I mounted her mish, pushed her legs all the way back to her ears and pounded that soft wet mound. She had one of those pussies that you could jackhammer, and it would squish and grab your dick and squirt it out just enough to take another big down stroke. I fucked her as hard as I could, and, every time I slid into her, my face would come close to hers and she would say something naughty, like, “ That’s it. Fuck your baby girl. You like that young pussy, don’t you Daddy?” She did this all the while she had a big sexy grin on her cute face. She was clearly enjoying getting fucked, and I discovered that this was her highest and best use. I turned her over and fucked her doggie. I slapped her ass, and she would coo, “Yessssss” every time that I did. At long last I lay on the bed and told her to mount and ride me, and she bounced on me like a springy jack in the box. I could feel the wetness of her pussy oozing out all over my thighs and stomach. It was nice to have her doing all the work. I just lay there and watched her tits bouncing as she rode my cock with abandon like the energizer bunny. Ah, the joy of fucking a 19 year old! Just as I was about to pop, I said, “Fuck me HARD, bi*tch.” and grabbed both her tits by the nipples and pinched them hard. She squealed in delight as I busted a hard nut and my whole body was shaking from it. She slid off with a big laugh and said, “Did Daddy have fun?” I don’t think she was capable of an orgasm. My guess was that all those tender years of fucking for money had hardened her to the act of sex, and all she could think about it now was as a way to make her client happy so she could pocket some bucks for her drug habits.

As soon as we were underway from the notel she couldn’t wait to call her supplier to meet him somewhere to get her fix with my donation. Her drugs of choice are percs, same as in the fall, although I am sure she indulges in others as well.

The ratings? Face: 4 stars ( cute, even if much rounder than it used to be); Body: 3 stars (nice smooth skin and 19 year old flesh, but quite flabby from her recent relatively inactive 3 squares a day with the state); BJ: 2 1/2 stars (OK in a pinch to get hard, but she wants to hurry, can’t or won’t do DT and doesn’t have the best technique in the world; even though she has been doing this since 14, she still needs some lessons); Fucking: 4 stars (if the BJ were better then I suppose it would have been a better lead in to the fucking because they are somehow related; no particular complaints here; it was just fine; it just wasn’t quite the 5 star experience I have had with others); Personality: 3 1/2 stars (a LOT better and more pleasant than last time, but a little hurried with pics and the BJ ); Overall: 3 stars; Repeatability? Yes (but I would want to be more up front about exactly what I expected regarding pics and the BJ). YMMV

If Samantha is telling the truth about her age then these comparison pics were from the time she was 16 and turning tricks on the Ave even then.

You can see what I mean by the gain in weight from her being a recent guest of the state.

Samantha undressing, nude, sucking her tit and spread.

She is a bit flabby in the belly. The flab doesn't appear to affect her energy fucking CG though and she is a good view from behind doggie style and a cute face to watch mish.

Samantha sucking her tit and sucking on me. I got a few shots of her sucking the rubber on me before I fucked her.

[QUOTE=Ssssbadboyssss]Just to chime in, I've been in the game for about 12 years and during that time I've only been offered BBFS once, (I refused of course). I'm thinking in this day and age it's got to be a very rare act, I mean to do a civvi BB is taking a serious risk but a SW that's like suicide. Just my 2cents.

Wrap that Rascal for Pete's Sake

BadBoy[/QUOTE]I pretty much stay across the river to hunt in Camden although I venture to the K from time to time. I've been doing this about 10 years and even though I can't comment on SW on the K, I have been offered BBFS alot and I mean like scary ALOT. It usually does'nt happen until the girl gets to know me but has happened at first meeting. There have been first times with girls when I wanted just a BBBJ and nothing more. They tell me "for $20 more you can put it in my pussy". When I tell them I don't have a rubber they say "I'm clean we don't need one" YEAH RIGHT. There have been times when doing a CFS car date and having a little trouble busting a nut that the SW has told me "take the rubber off so you can feel me more" and "I want to feel you come in me" YIKES. Some of these girls pussys stink so bad you would'nt want to fuck them covered let alone uncovered. I am not about to be a critic and tell everyone what they should or should not do, but I think everyone knows that an addict SW will do just about anything for money. I know Cookiejar ventures to Camden and I wonder if he has had the same offers. Please let me clarify that these were offers I received and NOT acts I performed, so no hate mail please, I just wanted to chime in on my experiences. It sounds to me like Deepthroat (S) has more common sense than alot of other SW in the area.

Be safe

[QUOTE=Ssssbadboyssss]Just to chime in, I've been in the game for about 12 years and during that time I've only been offered BBFS once, (I refused of course). I'm thinking in this day and age it's got to be a very rare act, I mean to do a civvi BB is taking a serious risk but a SW that's like suicide. Just my 2cents.

Wrap that Rascal for Pete's Sake

BadBoy[/QUOTE]I ain't going to judge someone else's game. I was just curious since AIDS is not a lead story anymore. I've been in this for more than a few years and have been tempted because sometimes it looks so good, but have never went for it. I've had girls ask me how I do it and putting it out there for me. Even anal. Forget the risk of disease, I can't afford no child support! 60-70% just blew my mind!

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I think you missed my point completely regarding the difference in my mind between a thrill seeker and a monger. I was not distinguishing on the basis of what a guy likes to do sexually. I don't care what floats a guy's boat, sexually or otherwise. But a "monger" to me is someone who actually [b]PAYS[/b] for sexual activity. "Frequenting prostitutes" to me implies that one is paying them, unless you have discovered the holy grail, a pro who does it for free (which would be an oxymoron since a pro IS someone whom, by definition, is [b]paid[/b] for sex acts, regardless of the type). A "monger" IMHO is not someone who cruises the Ave just to window shop, lets SWs in his car just to see their tits (with no intention of paying them for a damn thing), or just gets off (literally or mentally) talking about his fetishes with a girl (again, no intention of actually paying her for this). I would hardly place any of these activities in the category of "frequenting prostitutes."[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say you have to pay to be a monger. I think it's just numbers that matters who cares how you get them. I been getting for free from as many ladies as possible for awhile!

[QUOTE=Northsideman]I have heard a theory that in the pre-video era of "stag films" from the 1930's to the 1950's that male performers kept their black socks on as a way to avoid being completely naked! Not exactly logical thinking.
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I always heard that they left their socks on because they were so casual about having sex that they just didn't bother to take them off. Therefore, sex that was so good that you would take your socks to enjoy the full body experience was sex that would "Knock Your Socks Off."

[QUOTE=Mythbuster]I wouldn't say you have to pay to be a monger. I think it's just numbers that matters who cares how you get them. I been getting for free from as many ladies as possible for awhile![/QUOTE]

A monger is someone who frequents prostitutes. A prostitute is someone who engages in sexual activity for money. [b]PAYING[/b] for sexual acts is part of the definition. If we can all make up our own definitions, then a "monger" can mean anything one wants it to mean, from a circus performer to the President of the United States.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent]A monger is someone who frequents prostitutes. A prostitute is someone who engages in sexual activity for money. [b]PAYING[/b] for sexual acts is part of the definition. If we can all make up our own definitions, then a "monger" can mean anything one wants it to mean, from a circus performer to the President of the United States.[/QUOTE]I disagree, but you can call it what you want and be right on your own thread. But you should look up the word some day. It' about selling and promoting goods or ideas. But like mama said if you don't have Anything eles nice to say, I will shut up about it now.

Hey, any of your girls from the burbs complaining about the septa strike, I know at least one must take public transit to the ave.

[QUOTE=Supereloquent] Samantha’s attitude when I dated her in the fall was pretty cold, and I was put off by it. We went for a quick daytime BJ date in my car and she seemed just in a hurry to hustle me for more money (which she didn't get), and then get the deed over with ASAP and not do a good job. This time at least I was able to take some pics and she was anxious to see what they looked like on every shot, and she said, “Wow, I should be a model, huh?” She is cute, but I didn’t have the heart to tell her that she needs to lose about 30 pounds to be in model territory. She can be photogenic and sexy when she puts her mind down to it,... [/QUOTE]

Nice fine Supereloquent. I’ve been trying to hook-up with Samantha for years. If you see her again ask her if she has any factual, up to date info on our mutual friend, Sabrina.

I remember Samantha very fondly. I posted about her in a story I called, [post=467561]”The EXTRAVAGANZA”[/post] We had a lot of laughs that day. What is her real age? I wonder. I posted these pictures, [post=467547]”The EXTRAVAGANZA - The Players”[/post]in 2006. She said she was 18. (If she is 19 now, she would have been 16 or 17 when I meant her?) Tennis Player posted her pictures as [post=473384]"Marie"[/post] in 2006. He gave her age a 22. I think I remember Sabrina saying she (Samantha) was 19. Also, I faintly believe I’ve heard that story before. It may have been Sabrina who told me a story about a “Mexican,” on the Blvd.

Samantha and Sabrina!!!! Hey! I finally get it. Two witches. LOL After all these years I finally get the connection.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Nice fine Supereloquent. I’ve been trying to hook-up with Samantha for years. If you see her again ask her if she has any factual, up to date info on our mutual friend, Sabrina.

I remember Samantha very fondly. I posted about her in a story I called, [post=467561]”The EXTRAVAGANZA”[/post] We had a lot of laughs that day. What is her real age? I wonder. I posted these pictures, [post=467547]”The EXTRAVAGANZA - The Players”[/post]in 2006. She said she was 18. (If she is 19 now, she would have been 16 or 17 when I meant her?) Tennis Player posted her pictures as [post=473384]"Marie"[/post] in 2006. He gave her age a 22. I think I remember Sabrina saying she (Samantha) was 19. Also, I faintly believe I’ve heard that story before. It may have been Sabrina who told me a story about a “Mexican,” on the Blvd.

Samantha and Sabrina!!!! Hey! I finally get it. Two witches. LOL After all these years I finally get the connection.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]

Yes, I think their "witchy" street nicknames are deliberate. Even the ages line up: Sabrina the older mentor and Samantha the younger protege'.

I know that these two used to hang together because I dated both, and each one would talk about the other. Samantha was recently a guest of the state. My most recent intel is that Sabrina is still a guest? Anyway, I haven't seen her on the Ave for a long time now, nor seen any reports on her recently. If so, that's too bad. She was a wild date, and it would be even wilder to get Samantha and Sabrina together for a 3 some. If anyone has the facts on Sabrina it would be Samantha, because I know they are tight. I should have thought to ask her on our date. But the little head was doing most of the thinking...LOL.

We all know that SWs lie about their ages, their weights and sometimes even their heights (go figure on that one). Samantha told me last fall that she was 18 and that lines up with her being 19 now. It also lines up with how old Sabrina confirmed she was last fall. But that doesn't mean it is so. It just means that what I have been told by her and Sabrina is consistent. From what you are telling me she has represented different ages to both you (through Sabrina) and at least one other. Or, maybe Samantha is like Peter Pan and never wants to grow up.