Massage Parlor Reports

Hey SF mongers, Ezinho here from the International board (ISG). I was in the City today and I wanted to post a brief report about this place I went to called 777 Healthcare located on 652 Commercial Street in the Financial District. I went at around 11:25 am and the place was pretty quiet. An older lady greeted me and I told her I wanted a massage, so she took me to the back. I gave her $40 for a sixty minute massage. She left and I got naked and laid down on the massage table. Soon a younger, much better looking girl came in, named Anna. She told me she was 27 years old and from Southern China. The massage was good overall, I've gotten better in Asia of course, but it was better than I was expecting, to be honest. Near the end of the massage she asked for $50 for a HJ, I countered with $40, and she said ok. She gives a good oiled HJ and knows how to jerk off a dick. I had a load pent up for over a week and I came fast and hard.

Overall, good exerience, although a bit rushed at the end since the place started to get busy. I would say go before noon. If I'm in the City again, I'd go back.

Well, I pulled it off! In town for only two nights and two days but felt a strong urge to feed my addiction with one of the many, many options in The City by the Sea.

I had been looking at the rubmaps site to get a sense of which are the most reviewed places and to check the addresses for walking distance from my hotel. Also this site and Craigslist Therapeutic to get a feel for what level of play and how much. Myredbook not so much as I didn't have time to fully explore the format and info over there.

A couple of heavy hitting FS places popped up at 130 and 519 Bush, but that was more than my wallet or my watch were into. Also, the table shower at 940 Bush looked intriguing but it would have been a long walk and some indications seemed to say that no happiness happens there. So with my extreme limits I high stepped it to 260 Kearney.

It was no easy feat, let me tell you. In town with the family with no real reason to part from them. I did manage to case the joint on our walk back from China town on night one. The next morning I woke up with a neck strain (no really, I did). This is a good thing, though-now I don't have to constantly fake it throughout the day. Started laying the ground work that I was in need of a massage. Wifey shortstops it by digging through her smart phone and getting me an appointment with a CMT (god! I love her!). I send an odd bounce her way by telling her I only need a half hour session. She gets a nail appointment for herself on a slightly later time frame. Yea! I've found just enough time!

After serving my time with Michael, I dash over to be greeted by Angela (but first I was surprised by an old guy in a towel in the hallway-You see, I'm from MA and our doors don't have to remain unlocked at all times during business hours). Angela has a bright smile and pretty face. She is quick to welcome me and asks me if I want an hour or a half hour. Any other time I'd go for the hour but in this instance the half hour will be the perfect fit for my sched.

Angela takes the two Jacksons and will return with my change. When she gets back the conversation immediately turns to my strong naked body, my nice butt, my sexy body. If I were single she would marry me, or so she says. Over the course of the next ten minutes or so, she rolls my back rather firmly with some oil, probably undoing all that Michael had done. I chase her ass around with my grabby hands. Now that's she's got me right where she wants me she lets me know that she will take care of me and that I should take care of her in return. Like "how much you give me?" I start with two Jacksons and a request for some unwrapped bread to kneed. She says no way-that would be 80, referring to some 60, 80, 100 price structure that I'm not familiar with. I stand firm for the moment at 40. We are both pleasant but her negotiations are down right vicious. I finally said "Hey, I thought you loved me!" We agree to seeing and stroking a half a nipple for an additional 5 dollars (my change that she has not yet returned).

With all that out of the way, we complete what must be done. At one point I asked if she had a glove but she's obviously reluctant to get anywhere near my poop chute. Anyway, its all good, no fake moaning and she compliments me on the amount of milk that she was able to express.

After she kindly dealt with the mess, I dress myself (!). When I open my wallet her eyes become like two crowbars. I guess she thinks the negotiations are still on but they are not.

The final analysis is that I would most definitely return to see this very tough negotiating little cutie. Although, next time I will plan to cave to this good girl a little more.

Back in the hotel room, Wifey returned just in time to finish washing the oil off of my back in the shower.

After reviewing the different options, I decided to try the executive place on Bush St. Thanks to the writeups on the board I knew the entry process and the layout once I got inside. I drew Jackie, a cute chunky Thai girl in her late 20s. She was nice enough when the session began, but she turned out to be the mistress of the upsell.

After taking the house fee and offering me a shower (solo) , I got back to the room and she began a massage. Her technique is better than most. She uses long, strong strokes that feel good. 30 minutes into to the session, she asks me to flip over. I'm thinking this means a nice long time for fun, but that didn't happen. She asked what I wanted, I said everything, she asked what the tip would be, and I replied with the going rate. Her eyes lit up, and I thought that would be that, since she said ok. As it turned out, that was just the beginning.

As we were about to start she said you give me tip, but the amount she said was. 1 more than I had said, and she agreed to. It took a minute of re-convincing her that we had already agreed on a rate. (It turned out she was faking not understanding English. At the end of the session, she was able to clearly describe a recent vacation she took, and completely understand some jokes I told her.)

So after getting my soldier ready, I tell her it's her turn, and she lies back. I begin to get her ready, and she says no, that's. 2 extra. I say we already agreed on everything, and she says, no, that's extra. I persist, and she trots out a story about how a client from yesterday bit her, and she's now covered with medicine, and all I would taste is medicine. I say I don't mind, and then she says it's. 1 extra. I still refuse, and she refuses access. So I figure I'll just go to the main event, and she at least acts like she's enjoying it. Once the deed is done, she promptly gets up and begins to get dressed. I mentioned that there are 15 minutes left, but she says things are all done. She does bring me a hot towel, and some water. I figure I might as well have some fun conversation, and that's how I learn she speaks and understands English very well. We get dressed, and she departs.

I decide to follow that experience with one at Nikki's. I drew Tina, a slim but shapely lady in her 30s from Vietnam. Things started with hot tea, and just got better from there. She did all that was asked, and offered more. Fees were industry standard. Her English is very limited, but it really didn't matter. I'm looking forward to a return visit.

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Here's some general info that can help you get past the "newbie" stage, and make your 1st AMP experience a positive one.

Have fun with the hobby.

Dirty.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 25+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.

[QUOTE=Itsvip; 1478530]I'm doing research for my first AMP experience can anyone pm me with the best places and how the "process" usually takes place oh and also about the $$. LOL basically I don't want to walk in there looking and smellin' like a noob (1st timer) they might take advantage.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

Dirty Old Guy,

Wow this is exactly what I needed thanks! And yes if anyone has anything else to add please do so.

Thanks

Old place but great place to find some gems. Try the Vietnamese Molly who has a nice disposition and great smile and makes you smile really good later.

What is the going AMP rate for massage and FS tips in SF?

In LA / OC. 30min massage is $0. 50 plus $1 tip for 50/50.

I haven't been to SF in a couple of years, and in the past the girls always get a bit bitchy and tell me that SF prices are not the same as LA. I just don't want to get BS'ed.

Thanks

While driving around SF last week, I noticed a few massage places with signs that said "Private Bath"

Does that just mean TS or a shower room, or is there some kind of hot tub you can soak in with your massage girl?

Was in town on vacation with family so had the same issues as a prior poster in terms of time.

First, I was surprised at how blatant and out there was the advertising on the street. In OC, its usually in, business parks or strip mall centers. Here I saw giant signs you had to walk under and everyone on the street could see the sign. In fact my family commented on it and I said to the adults the larger the sign, probably the bigger the tourist rip off. Felt no need to share with in laws my knowledge of the subject.

Believe me, the LE knows all about these places and what goes on. They don't search here for hot tips.

First place was 260 Karney. Upstairs, no shower I saw. 35 house, a and cute 45-55 mms lead me to it. Stripped down and somewhat older (30-40) asian almost spinner type does a reasonable massage for 15 minutes. After 5, I start leg squeeze and keep going higher and all over outside jeans and met no resistance. Hand in pants (very tight).

Massage started hitting good spots and turned over. She massage a little more then started in on a HJ. I unzipped her pants, no resistance but no help, pulled them down and played with her but and a little in and outside panties.

Tipped her 40 plus 5 change. She was happy after the massage, very quiet during. Chinese.

Tried another and thought I might go for it all. Due to circumstances, only took my vitamin helper about 10 minutes before entry, but on time issues. Walked into Queens

On Karney, big advertisement on street, saw them on BP. Buzzed in and walk upstairs. Saw 3 girls in waiting room, all dressed to go. All were Ok to do. MMS picked one for me as I was walking in and fine with her choice, slender, with a tight dress. Gave me hug when we me, I patted her rump and she grindered me, happy attitude.

Went to room. 5 min massage, with her in and out of room a little. She immaterially went for the boys and no doubt what was on. I flipped, and surprisingly she oild up for a HJ, without asking what I wanted. I pulled her face to my ear and said I wanted everything. She said how much, I said 100. She said 160. I said I only pay 100 in OC, she said where is that? Only been here two years, but had a 400 I phone.

I told her then just go with HJ (I did not give price). After about 10 seconds of her thinking about it, she offered 120 FS since I was new customer and I said OK. She left to get supplies.

She starts playing to get jr hard, but nothing happening yet, finally a little stiffness and she puts on cover and starts CBJ. He snaps to attention, but I sure he may not last so I tell her to hop on for CG, she starts to move around and I complete the dead there. No DFK or DATY offered or tried. She leaves room dressed in towel, returned and Cleaned me up (kinda) and went downstairs, saw 3 other nice looking girls, so a total of at least 6 girls and 5 rooms I saw, no waiting. They have shower. Now that I think about it, since I didn't shower when I walked in, maybe hats why she thought HJ only.

Don't recall names of either girl.

So there is action to be had there.

Hey guys, just drove up from LA. Any suggestions for a spot that actually gives good massages? I've been reading a lot of reviews wherein there's a 5-10 minute, half hearted rubdown and then onto the extras. I'd like extras, but would also prefer to have something more than a token rubdown before the fun starts.

Thanks!

I am visiting Menlo Park at this weekend and looking for good massage place nearby?

I saw on CL Amber Impulse and Tranquility Day in Redwood, these are very close to place where I will stay.

I did not find anything about these on forum, and I am not sure if these are well reputable places.

Any suggestion will be very appreciated.

Stay Safe,

Aman

[QUOTE=Aman Tuleev;1538032]I am visiting Menlo Park at this weekend and looking for good massage place nearby?[/QUOTE]Ok, I've got good source on rubmaps dot com.

Thanks.

Stay Safe,

Aman

Tried checking out the site that has much bay area info, but too much effort. In any case, budget was strained and I knew I had to be in South San Fran, so just headed up the road to this place Zengs, near Balboa park. Chinese massage $.45 / hr. I figured they would have HE, but figured that was a decent price for a legitimate massage as well. Shower is self service (I like the east coast where they have TS). Sadly, I already forget the name of my technician. OK looking middle-aged Chinese. She was nice enough. Facilities are pretty average. The shower isn't the best. The massage was very good, and the finish was as expected. I left a small tip and she was satisfied. Decent place if you're in the area. There are so many of these R&T places around SF, I wish we had more back east.

Typical asian massage center as far as rates and setup (.5 hr for house) ; have had several experiences with very thorough massages, attention to the boys while face down and a very good HE on the flip. Have made multiple visits in the past year and built some trust but don't see or have not seeked any FS. If you are looking for a good massage and HE not a bad choice. Workers are nothing to write home about as far as looks. Milbrae on El Camino Real.

Aloha Bros,

Will be at the Orion next weekend. Any good suggestions close by?

Mahalo!