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[QUOTE=Journaz;4190299]You talked to her after she ripped you off?
I attempted to. I'm sure she blocked my number LOL. I could totally blow her spot up at the hotel she stays at because she's always there.[/QUOTE]No only before I haven't heard from her since. If she makes it right ill let all of you know. I doubt she will as she changed her number in her ad and hasn't contact me back from 4 different numbers I've tried.
[QUOTE=Msteresc;4190826]No only before I haven't heard from her since. If she makes it right ill let all of you know. I doubt she will as she changed her number in her ad and hasn't contact me back from 4 different numbers I've tried.[/QUOTE]That happened to me with one girl. I texted from different numbers trying to set something up pretending to be someone else. Then ended up canceling saying I read online how she ripped off a well known reviewer. She text me apologizing and made it up.
The situation was she left me at her place. We started doing stuff. She got a phone call and had to run. She thought it would be 15 minutes. Her car stalled and her phone died. After 1 hour I left. She did call me apologizing 2 hours later. Another time I gave her more money for multiples. It got late and I was tired so I called it quits. She promised to see me again but never did.
A regular I had I gave her money in person for rent and she promised future dates. She ended up giving me her social security card to hold so I wouldn't think she was ripping me off. I told her she didn't have to but she insisted. She also wanted to write a contract for the money. I told her no.
I'm curious and if you don't mind me asking. How did you send her the money. It seems like you sent it electronically via cash app like paypal, venmo or google pay.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4190586]Appreciate that. Not expecting anything from her.
What did she say to you when you mentioned it?[/QUOTE]9.
She denied it. I told her it's her business but she should make it right and that there are senior members in a forum saying she did it and that l would be shocked for those reviews to be done if there was not some truth. After that nothing. I did ask her a question to verify it was her l was conversing with, and she correctly answered.
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4191084]That happened to me with one girl. I texted from different numbers trying to set something up pretending to be someone else. Then ended up canceling saying I read online how she ripped off a well known reviewer. She text me apologizing and made it up.
The situation was she left me at her place. We started doing stuff. She got a phone call and had to run. She thought it would be 15 minutes. Her car stalled and her phone died. After 1 hour I left. She did call me apologizing 2 hours later. Another time I gave her more money for multiples. It got late and I was tired so I called it quits. She promised to see me again but never did.
A regular I had I gave her money in person for rent and she promised future dates. She ended up giving me her social security card to hold so I wouldn't think she was ripping me off. I told her she didn't have to but she insisted. She also wanted to write a contract for the money. I told her no.
I'm curious and if you don't mind me asking. How did you send her the money. It seems like you sent it electronically via cash app like paypal, venmo or google pay.[/QUOTE]I was a cash app I don't remember which one as I deleted it as it was way to easy to do.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4189441]Interesting. Who knows. I hit her up letting her know that she can make it right. But no response.
I wonder who it could've been if it wasn't her. Eveyhing points to her. Pics. Cashapp name etc.[/QUOTE]I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.
[QUOTE=Selasorp;4191442]I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.[/QUOTE]The plot thickens LOL.
[QUOTE=Selasorp;4191442]I spoke with her tonight, says her sister did it, that the info for her cash app and pics were saved on the phone, that she no longer has access to that phone and is using her text app on another device. I do know that her sister usually had the phone, and that it was shared as her sister actually had replied to me in the past saying that E was not available or that she was not with her. As l stated before, when l got a text on Friday l asked a question that E would know the answer to because the text seemed out of place to me, and the question was not correctly answered.[/QUOTE]I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4191866]I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.[/QUOTE]Big facts. I need to find a new BBBJ Provider.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4191866]I think the whole thing is a scam and sister is part of it. There are too many fish in the sea to deal with this kind of drama. I suggest moving on to a more stable provider.[/QUOTE]Desert Rat, you cracked me up using that phrase (LOL).
If you ever find a "Stable Provider " (just one) please, please let me know!
Be safe and happy hunting.
JAMESJ.
[QUOTE=Jamesj;4192008]
If you ever find a "Stable Provider " (just one) please, please let me know!
JAMESJ.[/QUOTE]Good point. If your life is grand, your Daddy loved you, and you are stable, then you would not be selling your pussy to strange men.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4193496]Good point. If your life is grand, your Daddy loved you, and you are stable, then you would not be selling your pussy to strange men.[/QUOTE]Thank the good lord above for daddy issues.
I have been ripped off by providers several times, but the first was the fastest. I picked up a girl she told me to go to a seedy motel. She asked for money to get a room. Me, being new to the trade gave her money and watched her go into the manager's office. I wait a while and do not see her. I got into the manager's office and she had gone out the back door. I asked the manager where she went and he pointed to the back door and smiled. That was my first lesson as a hobbyist.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4188861]Man she got me and it's totally my fault. So I had gone to see her last ueadsy for a visit. Great time. Her BBBJ was top notch and I planned to return. So Thursday night and Friday we were texting and Friday morning we were setting up an appt for that night and she texts saying she needs some help as she needs to pay her room. Initially I was hesitant because I didn't feel like getting screeed over. Well we talked more and she told me her story, she's homeless, sick baby etc and that if I could help cover her room she'd do anything to make it up. She eventually offered me 3 sessions if I could cover the room. I chose to believe her and sent her the $$ We continued to talk and had plans for me to come by that night. She sent pics and continued to text. At one point her phone started acting up and she actually texted me from another number and she said she just wanted to make sure we were still able to talk and that she didn't want me to think she ghosted me. The texting continued and closer to our appointment time she asked to push it back a little as she is trying to get medicine for her sick child. I'm cool with it. I text her again and she's waiting for her baby to be picked up by her ex and well that's the last I heard from her. I'm mad at myself for letting the little head overrule the big head. Lesson learned. Crazy part is had she not scammed me she would've made much more with me as a client as I had planned to see her frequently. Live and learn. All I will say is Beware.
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[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view...127/6028310857[/URL][/QUOTE]*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.
Saw her earlier. Were you the one who left that big puddle of cum on her bed? She told me she doesn't post anymore because she has a good amount of regulars to keep her afloat. I asked her what number should I text since she had several. She did mention about her sister taking her phone and texting her clients. Offering 40 for an hour. She said her sister is a street walker and on drugs.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4199551]*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4199785]Saw her earlier. Were you the one who left that big puddle of cum on her bed? She told me she doesn't post anymore because she has a good amount of regulars to keep her afloat. I asked her what number should I text since she had several. She did mention about her sister taking her phone and texting her clients. Offering 40 for an hour. She said her sister is a street walker and on drugs.[/QUOTE]Lmao. Nah I don't think that was me leaving the puddle. She took it all in the mouth. I noticed she hasn't been posting. What number did she say to text?
[QUOTE=Journaz;4199797]Lmao. Nah I don't think that was me leaving the puddle. She took it all in the mouth. I noticed she hasn't been posting. What number did she say to text?[/QUOTE]0857 number.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4199551]*UPDATE*.
So I spoke with her and she told me it was her sis and that she's done this before. She apologized and said she felt terrible. I told her I appreciated her getting back to me but I was still pissed about being out the money I was she asked could I come see her and I told her I could but was hesitant and how would I know it's her. She asked me how to prove it and I asked her to talk a pic doing a specific hand gesture. She did. She gave me her info and room number and told me to head over and she was going to shower. She sent a couple pics as well. I arrive and man oh man did she show me how sorry she was and made it up to me. In my dream she left me DRAINED and I left with a smile. I might be back because man oh man a woman who can suck like she can is hard to find.[/QUOTE]I've tried with no luck. I'd be causous with her and I hope she makes things right with me soon. Stay safe.
I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
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[QUOTE=DrPoon;4208223]Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashton[/URL][/QUOTE]I think if you chose the spot and got busted it is on you. However, if she chose that spot then she owes you a climax. If it was mutual decision you will have to go on Judge Judy and let the judge make a decision.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;4208223]I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashton[/URL][/QUOTE]She says 15 minutes of her time, and yes BBBJ cim if you cam in less than the 15 minute mark. If you went over the time then too bad. I had seen her in the past and she allowed extra time, but YMMV, maybe she just wanted to be done with you.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;4208223]I had seen her before for $60 for the BBBJCIM. Then I went to see her again and we drove to a parking garage and she looked unkempt wearing a lot of perfume apparently due to not properly showering and appeared to be strung out. She only slid her top off partway and as I was about to finish the car BBBJ, a security guard in a golf cart pulled up on our starboard side and hailed us. Reluctantly I pulled my pants up and told him were were just talking. Then he told us to move along and leave the property. So we drove to a another parking spot and by the time we were parked again ready to go Ashton said the time was up because she counted the security guard time and move to another spot on the clock. I argued that under contract law the purpose of the BBBJ contract was to achieve the end result of specific performance of cim, and thus the doctrine of frustration of purpose applied and I was owed either a refund or a specific performance completion. She disagreed and argued that she tendered full performance for the time frame and that no particular guarantee of cim was required, despite her ad clearly advertising as such. Clearly, this amounted to a ripoff report and everyone is urged to avoid this excessive clock watcher. I had to vacuum my car to get the perfume residue and also she had a lot of long brunette hair which was falling out (possibly due to malnutrition) which required extra effort to vacuum and also would not property remove her top during the BBBJ which eventually reduced the experience.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.phoenix.listcrawler.com/post/31026655/ashton[/URL][/QUOTE]You always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;4209981]You always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.[/QUOTE]Sorry that had happened to you but that had me 😂 LOL. Bring the clause up next time so there isn't a chance she can eradicate the sensitive time issues on the stupid security guard.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;4209981]You always have to negotiate in the sub clause that states that she WILL work that nut out of you. If you can't negotiate that, then just don't hand over the "roses" until the job is done.[/QUOTE]I am not sure this is technically a ripoff report. You could have driven away with your cock in her mouth and then blew a load on the ride. You must learn to multi-task.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4210959]I am not sure this is technically a ripoff report. You could have driven away with your cock in her mouth and then blew a load on the ride. You must learn to multi-task.[/QUOTE]Very good point. Take some notes swanzegrande aka dr Poon🙌127995;.
Motel 6 recently in the news. Should be avoided due to recent event happening as we speak. A blonde volumptuous provider indicated that she was approached by two african american gentlemen with a business proposition to rob hobbyists and split half the money with her. She declined the offer but these two citizens are apparently approaching women at this motel and trying to rob hobbyists. Therefore this entire location should be avoided.
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A punter is claiming he was attacked and robbed when he went to see this escort. I am skeptical of such reports but he gave a description of the attack. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Journaz;4199551]...and that she's done this before[/QUOTE]The tales that get sewn out there, and ensnarl those that believe in the weave, are tapestries of folkloric proportions.
Easy set up. Typical 2 call system. Decent hotel on East Apache Blvd.
She looked exactly like her pictures and quoted 200. I ask if she had any NO's. I should have asked if there were any up charges. Her only NO was BB, including BJ. She was hot and sweet so I went along and gave her the $200. She stripped down to panties and I got naked on the bed. She climbed on me and said Vegas has spoiled her. She gets thousands of $$$ for FS and asks if I brought more money. I knew I was screwed. I remembered a big AA guy leaving the hallway when I showed up and figured he was outside the door. The $200 was a loss and told her I wanted my money back. Surprisingly she doesn't do refunds but she would make sure I came.
She got a call from the front desk and it sounded like she was going down for something when she mentioned her BF. Then she called her BF and said to go to the front desk. I'm sure it was him, checking in and it was safe for him to leave.
She gave me a good 3 minute stripper dance and lubed me for a HJ. I got her to talk dirty and just before I came, she said I could pull down her panties. Her pussy was cute.
I'm pretty mad I was taken. I should have known such a cute spinner was too good for 200 around here. I'm trying to think of it as a lap dance that ended well. Beware.
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Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4479414]Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.[/QUOTE]You should forward the video to the hotel. Unless the hotel knows foreseable danger of a guest threatening a hobbyist, then if anyone is eventually shot he will not be able to sue the hotel based on negligence unless it was foreseable and the hotel was put on notice of dangerous conditions such as a pimp walking around with a gun.
[QUOTE=DrPoon;4480166]You should forward the video to the hotel. Unless the hotel knows foreseable danger of a guest threatening a hobbyist, then if anyone is eventually shot he will not be able to sue the hotel based on negligence unless it was foreseable and the hotel was put on notice of dangerous conditions such as a pimp walking around with a gun.[/QUOTE]It was at an apartment or group apartment like college dorms. I thought of pulling my gun but told myself it wasn't worth it. Guy was clearly drunk or high. He was pretty fucked up
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4480547]It was at an apartment or group apartment like college dorms. I thought of pulling my gun but told myself it wasn't worth it. Guy was clearly drunk or high. He was pretty fucked up[/QUOTE]I think you made the right choice. That is why you are a good firearms owner. You did not pull your weapon and open fire as a first choice. Shit can go South in tight quarters and if an errant round killed someone you are at fault. You lived to tell the tale which demonstrates you did the right thing.
[QUOTE=DesertRat;4499239]I think you made the right choice. That is why you are a good firearms owner. You did not pull your weapon and open fire as a first choice. Shit can go South in tight quarters and if an errant round killed someone you are at fault. You lived to tell the tale which demonstrates you did the right thing.[/QUOTE]I concur. Is the piece of shit worth it?. The bullet is worth more than that piece of shit. Now if the asswipe pulled and pointed at you then by all means do the world a favor, better yet let him fire off an errant round first.
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4479414]Seen her a few times before. This time I handed the donation and she was looking for a litter. So I offered to give her a ride to get one. While leaving she said oh I forgot to lock the door. So I continue walking to the car. She them texts me her boyfriend is here. He talks to me and starts flashing his gun to leave. She has a tattoo above her eye now. Tried to post on megapersonals but it won't allow me. Feel free to post it if you can. Also feel free to comment or post a review on escortbabylon about it. She stopped reply about paying me back.[/QUOTE]Do you have a screenshot of her ad?
Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
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[QUOTE=TheSharks;4508540]Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
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702XXX3798 was the number provided.[/QUOTE]The most important thing is that you are alive to tell the tale. The posting in multiple cities was the first HUGE red flag. The second is having a man come to meet you in the lobby. You should have excused yourself and left the moment you saw him. Lastly, never give anyone money until the deed is done.
The other popular scam is the old boyfriend / pimp banging at the door before you even have sex is popular in cheap motels. If you have your money on you just dress and haul ass out the door. Please read more posts on the forum they can help you avoid most rip offs.
[QUOTE=TheSharks;4508540]Went to get a massage by this provider. I googled the number and saw the posting in multiple cities so I figured I'd take the chance. I got there she texted me that she was finishing up with a client and to wait in the hotel lobby and that she would come get me. Some short black dude came down. Lead me into the hallway patted me down to "make sure I wasn't the cops". Asked for the donation and told me a room number. I guess I wasn't thinking here, I was anxious to get out of the lobby. Once I handed over the money I realized this was probably a scam. Went upstairs to see if anyone would answer the door just in case. No one did of course. At least it wasn't violent or anything.
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702XXX3798 was the number provided.[/QUOTE]I think the images are of 2-3 different women. One of them is Anella Miller. [URL]Tineye.com[/URL] shows the images came from at least 6 different websites.
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;4499367]Do you have a screenshot of her ad?[/QUOTE]She tends to change her number alot but uses the same pics. She is usually around i17 and northern area and is hangs around qt near 27th and northern trying to score pills.
[QUOTE=AzPussyLicker;4526604]She tends to change her number alot but uses the same pics. She is usually around i17 and northern area and is hangs around qt near 27th and northern trying to score pills.[/QUOTE]I think it sucks you saw her before without trouble and then this shit goes down. So much for a known quantity.