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Shooting Close Up Pictures
[QUOTE=Giani]. To all who would use a fine toothed comb to find fault, let's see what you got. We will all be grateful for any good stuff you post. Otherwise. We respect your first amendment rights, but not you. Remember that those of us who work the streets and enjoy the cruise, may not be able to afford the $$$ or more for top of the line. Excuse our blue collars. But we do occasionally find the diamond in the rough. If you like them, show it by posting some pix of your own! Or pass on your thanks to my friend.[/QUOTE]I say good shots Giani. The Cincinnati board has a low picture postings compared to other boards. I really liked the fact your shots were taken during sun light. Would like to see more of the girls face or her tongue action. Taking pictures in the car presents some challenges. It's especially challenging taking a head shot while receiving some head!
The series of shots you've taken shows the stages the girl went through on her technique from start to finish. Like stills from a movie.
The camera you use, does it have a micro setting for close ups? Only suggestion would be try different angles or like what "Cookie Jar" does in his shots with the girls. He has them topless, bottomless setting in the passenger's seat or next to the car. I know it's winter now but spring will be here soon. However, thanks for the pics and try some more creative shots.
I'll post some pictures I've taken lately and these are close ups and extreme close ups. I welcome your thoughts and comments.
Harpo2U
Experience with escorts---newbie to the SW scene
Guys,
I am a newbie to the SW scene. (I've used escorts and AMPs for years, but no experience with SWs.)
I made a post in another forum here basically saying that all SWs are to be avoided. If I had offended any of you, I'm sorry. I had admittedly based most of my opinion on what I've seen on TV, where the SWs are invariably toothless 50-year-olds!
After looking at the pics of "Red" in the post below, I am willing to admit that I may have been hasty. (That one is as nice as escorts that I have paid $200 350.) I also saw a post featuring street scenes from 2008 (a few pages back) and it looks like there may have been some nice ones.
I like young (18 27) ladies who are in good shape. Is this readily available in the SW scene?
Also, OTR seems to be where you're all going. Are there other places in town that are a bit safer? Are there any places on the East Side? (Excuse me if this is a dumb question.)
I admittedly don't know what I'm doing here. So any newbie advice would be most appreciated ****
Finally, it seems that I may have been overpaying for years! Before the current economic downturn, I would have dropped $250 on a girl like Red without even thinking about it.
How much *does* an SW typically cost?
Sorry for all the questions. I have tried to make up for it by posting info in the escort, CL and AMP forums, where I have a lot of experience.
Thanks, guys!
Cameras, SW faces, and venues for "shoots..."
I have the following replies from my friend who took the pictures:
Venues for "shoots": Occasionally the venue is inside, but for those who cruise the streets for SWs, renting a room has problems of cost, time constraints, and leaving a traceable trail. There is no doubt that pix taken in a room can be better composed, more dependable lighting and offer greater variety of perspectives.
Cookiejar's pix... what can I say. He is probably the number one poster of pix on USASG, the good, the bad and the ugly. (Lots of the latter) I am grateful for his postings, but personally would like to see more action shots, and that are a little more aesthetic. I am amazed that he can get so many full face shots. I wonder what he pays them.
SW faces: In very large cities, perhaps SW identity is more difficult to assess. But in Cinti, it is relatively easy for LE to identify the girls, potentially causing problems for all concerned. No doubt about it, full face with eyes focused on the camera are much hotter. But my friend will continue to make an effort to obscure and SW's identity. He always offers an extra tip (only 0.05 or 0.1) for photo privileges. Invariably, the SW requires that her face not be shown. Usually she does not know the pix may be posted, and I have heard complaints from SWs that their pix DID show up.
My friend's camera does have the macro function, and he said he took the recent set of pix with that feature in use. He said he might try to get a few ultra close ups in the future. BTW, shooting at night in a car requires flash, a beacon to LE etc who may be around.
In the interim, I value the following in forum posts:
1) hotness and degree of action: I far prefer action pix to body or body part shots)
2) attractiveness of the SW: DUH... besides nice proportions, no skin flaps, or serious flaws.
3) size, focus and resolution: there is no good reason not to post pictures close to the allowed 646x646. (Doesn't everyone have photo editing soft ware? Just resize the cropped image to this size. I find postage stamp posts irritating. And unfocused pix frustrating.
4) No professional pix: the picture must be actually taken by 'one of us,' not a professional photographer. (Posting of professional shots leaves me relatively cold unless for a particular purpose that advances the board.)
Thanks for your good posts. To those who follow the PhotoGallery, keep track of the number of hits each picture gets. If one uses hits as an indicator of value to the board, Both Harpo and I have a pretty good track records. For instance, this picture I posted a week ago has scored 1177 hits in seven days:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69090[/url]
And a picture Harpo posted only four days ago has 604 hits:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69296[/url]
Giani
[QUOTE=Harpo2u]... I really liked the fact your shots were taken during sun light. Would like to see more of the girls face or her tongue action. Taking pictures in the car presents some challenges. It's especially challenging taking a head shot while receiving some head!
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The camera you use, does it have a micro setting for close ups? Only suggestion would be try different angles or like what "Cookie Jar" does in his shots with the girls. He has them topless, bottomless setting in the passenger's seat or next to the car....However, thanks for the pics and try some more creative shots.
Harpo2U[/QUOTE]
SW's 18-27, costs, etc.????
Like most newbies you ask questions that are answered if you simply read these forums. While I don't monger in the Queen City, I do roll, report, and find what you are looking for up the road in Dayton. And I know from reading your Cincy forum what you want is there too. The donations start at .15 for a BJ and .35 for FS; and go up. I've never paid above .80 for BBBJ + FS, and that was for an 18yo built like a brick house, no kids, and a face of 8-9, bod of 10+, no marks, or.... I've also had under 21yo SW's, near 10 in looks in every way; BJ + FS, + DATY, + GFE for as little as .40+.10 tip.
And I tend to overpay. The gents of your board are far better negotiators than I seem to be. Now having said all this, I rarely stumble across these "finds" on 1 or 2 rolls thru the venues. But if you put in 2, 3, 4 hours an eve, day or night, you'll find what you are looking for; I do in several different towns I visit. Of course, I frequently settle for a 30+yo; one that appeals to me in looks and bod, and if her attitute is amicable, off we go. If her attitude is poor, I let her out. About 5-10% are cut loose for poor attitude. Oh, and most of these 30yo have the best attitudes, skills, cooperation, compared to the young hotties.
As, for escorts, CL, etc; well I chose to stretch my dollar further and have no experience with your side of the hobby, so I speak from my own little experience. Read a few of my posts; the darlings are out there if you will take the time this hobby requires. I think one night I rolled for 5.5 hours. Can't remember what I found, but I always find an acceptible SW and get a nice nut.
Don't be lazzy. Be safe and good hunting. MW
[QUOTE=Todd Cincy]Guys,
I am a newbie to the SW scene. (I've used escorts and AMPs for years, but no experience with SWs.)
I made a post in another forum here basically saying that all SWs are to be avoided. If I had offended any of you, I'm sorry. I had admittedly based most of my opinion on what I've seen on TV, where the SWs are invariably toothless 50-year-olds!
After looking at the pics of "Red" in the post below, I am willing to admit that I may have been hasty. (That one is as nice as escorts that I have paid $200 350.) I also saw a post featuring street scenes from 2008 (a few pages back) and it looks like there may have been some nice ones.
I like young (18 27) ladies who are in good shape. Is this readily available in the SW scene?
Also, OTR seems to be where you're all going. Are there other places in town that are a bit safer? Are there any places on the East Side? (Excuse me if this is a dumb question.)
I admittedly don't know what I'm doing here. So any newbie advice would be most appreciated ****
Finally, it seems that I may have been overpaying for years! Before the current economic downturn, I would have dropped $250 on a girl like Red without even thinking about it.
How much *does* an SW typically cost?
Sorry for all the questions. I have tried to make up for it by posting info in the escort, CL and AMP forums, where I have a lot of experience.
Thanks, guys![/QUOTE]
Excellent Post ..... Excellent !!!!!
I think every Newbie, Starter, Overpayer, and Etc., Etc., should read.
I think the real problem is too many don't really learn how to use the Archives to read previous post, and they think there is a short answer to most questions.
We have short answers, but it took us a long while to learn the ropes. You have to put in the Foot Work in order to know the Short Cuts.Personally I am still learning them, because "KNOWLEDGE IS ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION .... FOREVER GROWING." But it is hard to answer so many questions as I receive, without somekind of basic knownledge before hand.
I two have driven around for 3-4 hours plus looking, and i did not always find what I was looking for. Sometime I passed on one SW, thinking I would find/see something better, and never did. I have passed up decent SW's, just been cautious only to loose them, on the turn around. I have had SW's ask far too much, earlier that day, only to ask for much less, later that night.
I have had SW's freak out on me, and I had to physically throw them out.
I have found SW's in Grocery stores, Coffee Shops, KFC? Popeyes? AlabamasFish? WhiteCastles?, etc., corners convenience stores and everywhere. Everywhere other than at the street corners. It comes all in your approach and learning the key words to say, that most SW's Full & Part-timer, know. They don't always immediately respond, but they will next time they see you. And if they are not, they will let others who are know.
It is about MONEY, and they will take a finders fee, and often help you find the BEST LOOKING, BEST BUILT, YOUNG Of Age SEXZ Ones.
For what you pay for one($100-250), you can have #3-5 decent SW's, and still pay finders fees, and tips, and get photos. I have my own personal collection. I told them I would NOT post them, and I try to keep My Word !!!!
I have had to deal with Pimps(so they call themselves), and Mother's needing to pay for their kids school or equipment. I have seen SW's go from #10s down to #5's are worst. And have seen the opposite. I have seen dishonest Cops, and girls coming in & out of their cars or meeting spots, and I have seen SW's who have refused to deal with cops, and got long sentences in Jail for doing so.
I have watched LE Stings, and even recognized some of the girls used. I have seen the CL come into use, and LE going after them. And the internet has just CHANGED EVERYTHING BEYOND "WORDS."
Everyone is truly Thankful, for it !!!!
I can even remember when Downtown actually had Brothels in it, all down back alleys, and side streets, where they had so many women in it, that they had to double up on floor mattresses, you might be no more than 8ft away from someone else Humpin. Some places didn't even have that. It was over a chair or table, and no telling if someone might walk into the room, to ask the SW a question. It was Truly ... Wham Bam .... Thank You Mam. !!!!
It made it easy for the Police to break up the whole thing, and it has been that way ever since. During the mid 80's it opened up a little bit, and in the 90's too, but it was very short lived.
So put in Your time, pay Your dues, and don't use Laziness as any kind of Excuse, and READ the ARCHIVES, before Posting & PMing. Read the International Guide to, to get an idea of how things are outside the USA.
It really is a Totally different World, beyond our borders, even in Canada & Mexico just to start.
[QUOTE=Mw Jrp]Like most newbies you ask questions that are answered if you simply read these forums. While I don't monger in the Queen City, I do roll, report, and find what you are looking for up the road in Dayton. And I know from reading your Cincy forum what you want is there too. The donations start at .15 for a BJ and .35 for FS; and go up. I've never paid above .80 for BBBJ + FS, and that was for an 18yo built like a brick house, no kids, and a face of 8-9, bod of 10+, no marks, or.... I've also had under 21yo SW's, near 10 in looks in every way; BJ + FS, + DATY, + GFE for as little as .40+.10 tip.
And I tend to overpay. The gents of your board are far better negotiators than I seem to be. Now having said all this, I rarely stumble across these "finds" on 1 or 2 rolls thru the venues. But if you put in 2, 3, 4 hours an eve, day or night, you'll find what you are looking for; I do in several different towns I visit. Of course, I frequently settle for a 30+yo; one that appeals to me in looks and bod, and if her attitute is amicable, off we go. If her attitude is poor, I let her out. About 5-10% are cut loose for poor attitude. Oh, and most of these 30yo have the best attitudes, skills, cooperation, compared to the young hotties.
As, for escorts, CL, etc; well I chose to stretch my dollar further and have no experience with your side of the hobby, so I speak from my own little experience. Read a few of my posts; the darlings are out there if you will take the time this hobby requires. I think one night I rolled for 5.5 hours. Can't remember what I found, but I always find an acceptible SW and get a nice nut.
Don't be lazzy. Be safe and good hunting. MW[/QUOTE]
Taking Pictures and other things
[QUOTE=Giani] .... Occasionally the venue is inside, but for those who cruise the streets for SWs, renting a room has problems of cost, time constraints, and leaving a traceable trail. There is no doubt that pix taken in a room can be better composed, more dependable lighting and offer greater variety of perspectives.[/QUOTE]I totally understand what your saying but I think you may be more paranoid than what you need to be about a traceable trail. look at "Mw Jrp" pictures which all are taken at notels. If you have a digital program that you can manipulate any thing in the background out of the picture like photoshop. Pictures of the ladies laying on bed sheets would be hard to trace where you were at. However, if you're not comfortable than it's best to do what you are. Your pics are appreciated. I just wish you were able to do indoor shots because there are just a couple of us that post pics on the Cincinnati board.
[QUOTE=Giani] Cookiejar's pix... what can I say. He is probably the number one poster of pix on USASG, the good, the bad and the ugly. (Lots of the latter) I am grateful for his postings, but personally would like to see more action shots, and that are a little more aesthetic. I am amazed that he can get so many full face shots. I wonder what he pays them. [/QUOTE]
He certainly does post tons of pics. My suggestion for him would be to pick about 4 to 8 real good ones instead of posting 20 pics of the same girl. Another good suggestion would be to color correct the pics with a program because some of the pics he post have awful coloring of the skin tones of blues and grays from the lighting he shoots. Some pictures work with that color but overall the skin tones are too dark and blueish in color.
[QUOTE=Giani] SW faces: In very large cities, perhaps SW identity is more difficult to assess. But in Cinti, it is relatively easy for LE to identify the girls, potentially causing problems for all concerned. [/QUOTE]
This is an area where I don't see the logic. I've gotten some PMs about this and tried to see the other view on this. If the girl doesn't want pics taken then I respect her wishes. However, if it's cool with her on pictures then why not. Pictures of the street scene are just that pictures of people on the streets. I think this is where I got flack from others where I posted pictures showing girls on the street and you can see their faces.
LE KNOWS what girls are on the streets pictures or no pictures. Having your picture on this site isn't a crime nor will it get you arrested. Only if you are caught soliciting will you get in trouble. There are thousands and thousands of pictures of women on USASexGuide and none were arrested because of a picture. If that was the case then Jackson would put a halt to all pictures of naked women and all the video movies linked to a Youtube site like "Glenn61" has done in his posts in Florida. Also face or no face I can spot the person if I see them on the streets. Hair color and style or body shape can be enough information to recognized who it was. I'm open for further discussion about this but unless the girl says no pics then I respect that.
[QUOTE=Giani] In the interim, I value the following in forum posts:
1) hotness and degree of action: I far prefer action pix to body or body part shots)
2) attractiveness of the SW: DUH... besides nice proportions, no skin flaps, or serious flaws.
3) size, focus and resolution: there is no good reason not to post pictures close to the allowed 646x646. (Doesn't everyone have photo editing soft ware? Just resize the cropped image to this size. I find postage stamp posts irritating. And unfocused pix frustrating.
4) No professional pix: the picture must be actually taken by 'one of us,' not a professional photographer. (Posting of professional shots leaves me relatively cold unless for a particular purpose that advances the board.)
[/QUOTE]
Good list Giani.
Your number 1 point above, action as in the girl giving head and or showing penetration in mish and Doggie position. If it's a video showing action yeah but most still shots are poorly taken for a number of reason. I like to see full body and close ups of the merchandise. I can fantasied her on my knob while looking at her fine assets.
Which brings number 2 point, again quality of pictures taken showing good angles and that takes good skills and practice by the photographer. Showing the face does help in the quality.
Point number 3, I agree about the small pictures but most guys don't have the time and just want to post a picture for information and not an aesthetics picture of the woman.
The last point number 4, I think the Los Angles board are notorious for this but if the CL girls won't pose for a picture taken by a monger getting service then the guy can only post the pic from CL. What I really hate is when they post a link to the CL ad and you go to click on it to read the Ad and the Ad has been deleted or has expired! WTH! Why can they just copy past the information onto their report. That is pure laziness on their part.
I think there are very few of us that follow those points you made. So continue your work and I'll continue mine. I know I post a lot of pics of "Red" but she loves getting her picture taken and doesn't mine. She is my model for erotic photographs. I do ask others if they would like to pose but they don't want to and I respect their wishes. I would love to shoot some erotic pics of "Misty" whom I've just seen lately. There is another girl in Covington but she won't pose neither. I have a lot of pics of "Mandy" but just haven't gotten around to posting them. So right now I just have "Red" for now.
Hopefully others will join in with some pics of their own.
Harpo2U
OUTSIDE THE USA .... IT IS "ACCEPTED."
OUTSIDE of the USA, it is not always Legal, but for the most part ACCEPTED. It is accepted, because the Governments have found a way to Tax it, License it, and Control it. It is always about MONEY.
Most Muslim based countries as over in Africa, have mixed Christ values with their own, and took Capitalistic approach to SW's, and have based an economy on it, even though it is considered to be a little underground, unspoken, just acceptable, and profitable.
The worry of AID/HIV, is many countries has forced them it take a realist look at SW's. Licensing SW's, and regular medical check, control the SW industry, and the Government regulate it via profitable fees, and licensing.
It is still about MONEY.
And throughout parts of Europe, they have made it Legal again, or it is just not of major importance. It is acceptable, except when it interferes with regular business. It is just an accepted part of the tourist industry, and a way to bring tourist in, because once you have had your SW fun you still will want to eat, drink, buy something, take a taxi, and do whatever.
Only here in the USA, do we take SW, to such a High Priority level. Sometime LE is more interested in busting SW's than drug deals. It seems that way. It is really surprising to foreigners on how serious we take SW work, and how in their countries it is so accepted, and nothing serious. Even in the most conservative foreign countries, they are still not as strict as we are here.
Every American man should have a chance to go outside the USA for SW's action, and only then will you be amazed at how easy & simple it is. It will make you realize, exactly what you are missing. What we some here for and hour or less of service, you can have a beautiful, sexz, young woman, ALL NIGHT LONG, far into the next day. And it will be no holds barred. And many times you won't get a lot of attitude, and in some hotels, the SW, has to leave her ID at the Front Desk, for safety reasons. She can only get it back once you escort her down to the front desk, and they hand it over. So double check yourself before, you let her leave the hotel. Better to be safe than sorry.
Now that DELTA has finally lowwered Airfare out of CVG, I just talked to a few friends and we are talking a to the Dom. Republic, for an SW trip. Or maybe a trip to Mexico, via Texas. We are still planning.
But you might as well consider SW's Legal, because outside of the USA, it is just NOT a big legal priority, but it is a very big medicall PRIORITY.
[QUOTE=Djholliday]SW are legal and you can find them very easly.
There is a lot of information out on the internet where they rate the various SW together with the ads.
Some forums even have a "Stammtisch", a regular face-to-face meeting in a brothel/nightclub.
That's all very different from here.
Here as a newbie, you have to work your way through various forums. Some of them are better than others. Overall, you still have to make yourself a name, before you actually get the good numbers and are "a part of the community".
I don't complain.
It's just an observation.
Personally, I don't need the exceitement ("fear") of the hunt and LE, so I mostly use escorts.[/QUOTE]
Street"wize": Dude, get a grip.
Your "Like it or Leave it" message is way out of place for an "out of towner" on this forum. Quite a high horse for a monger, don't you think? Have YOU ever been outside the US? Mongered there? (It is eye opening and gratifying.) Your patriotic breast beating rant against someone who mentions that mongering is great outside the US is bizarre.
You OBVIOUSLY are not familiar with the Cincinnati scene (did you even know that you were ragging against a post on a Cincy forum?) Read our boards. Satisfactory AMPs are far and few between here. Unless you have information to post??? We would welcome positive posts on that (or any) topic.
Get a grip.
Giani
[QUOTE=Streetwize]I'm so sick of people saying the rest of the world is better than the USA because of this reason or that reason. Why do people continue to try to move here from other countries? If you like foreign ******, move there. I like the US ****** just fine. And never had a problem with finding one. I can go to any of 6 AMP's in less than an hour. There is no legal problem here.[/QUOTE]
Sound Like A Man With Problems To Me ????
Since I have been a member of USASG, and this forum, I have never say a WORD, against anyone in a negative way, or downed anyone for their post here, especially someone who is an elder on this forum like WORDUP, and one who is an elder to Jacksons Web Site.
I'll take his WORD over many people on this forum, and I have been reading his post for Years. I have never had a problem with anything he has posted, and have asked many time on advance to several places, other than to ask by posting it. His advance has not failed me yet.
GIANI, is right on the mark with his post, and I could not agree more. It is amazing sometime what people post on the forum, and continue to bounce around this forum blasting people.
Jackson has given all of us Fair Warning about that, plus even more about Flaming, and has kicked a whole lot of people off for not heeding his warning.
I have been outside the USA on several occasions, and I know the mongering is far superior than here.
If mongering were the only factor, I would prefer to me outside the USA. It is a whole lot cheaper according to the country, and the service is better.
As for living outside the USA, I would NEVER ever want to live anyplace else, but in the USA.
Outside of the USA, rest of the world can be a very cruel place. Yea, everyone wants to come here to make a life for themselves, but very far would ever come to monger.
They know well the benefits of women in their countries, and know will how women are treated. THEY HAVE ALMOST NO RIGHTS. There are more women in foreign countries who want to come to the USA, to get away from SW work in their country, because often regardless of their education, knowledge, or skills, all they can ever hope to be is someones wife or work in the sex trade, where they might be enslaved to someone else. And the law won't help them as they will here.
Women even SW's have it far, far better in the USA, than in other second & third world countries. HERE YOU WILL PAY MORE FOR LESS, and the QUALITY is NO BETTER. There are less women working the SW trade for drugs outside the USA, and do it more to just survive. More women here in the USA, do it because they are hooked on drugs, than they do in Second & Third world nations. Drug use in those countries, takes up to much money to maintain, and the Pimps there know an SW on drugs is no use to them, since the number of willing young girls needing money is ENDLESS.
In those countries if you don't eat you dead, it that simple, so you have to do SW work. At least in the USA you can get some kind of assistance. Other countries have NEVER had a welfare system to go to, other that what other food & medical aids that comes from the help of the "G-6 or G10" nations. WE CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT THIS, but, that was it in a Nutshell.
So if you ever decide to come to Cincinnati, Ohio to monger, then Uncle Simon has a Guest room for you. Three meals a day, and a cold bed. No Pool, No Phone, No Pets! He has cleared out every MP, Brothel, or anything alike within a three state area (Ohio, Ky, Indy), anything close to Cincy. Cincy is possibly the worse place to Monger in the whole USA. And we have the Lowest & Worse selection to choose from.
If you doubt that then ask Jerry Springer, he got BUSTED using a MP here in Covington, Ky. Which made him into what he is Now!
WHATEVER THAT IS? And, he still Mongers on the side!
(By the way Covington, Ky. Is right across the river from Cincy.)
[QUOTE=Streetwize]I'm so sick of people saying the rest of the world is better than the USA because of this reason or that reason. Why do people continue to try to move here from other countries? If you like foreign ******, move there. I like the US ****** just fine. And never had a problem with finding one. I can go to any of 6 AMP's in less than an hour. There is no legal problem here.[/QUOTE]
I Went Hunting Tuesday .... !!!!
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Was it just me, or were the streets really that empty, on a very warm winters day. I saw 1-2 SW's out and they were all too skanky, to pick up.
I also saw Paula, who use to be a very decent SW, but man did she look bad. I mean my God, drugs have done a serious number on her. She use to have a very decent body, and very nice attitude with very good skills, and is very Bi, and does 2somes & moresomes. She was a real Freak of the Week.
Plus, she just had a baby about a year or two ago. I hope someone has that baby, and not her.
Paula was not crack thin, and is still a little thick, but her face looked like it had aged 50 years. BAD VERY BAD! If you can deal with SKANK SW's she is willing to give you FS for $15 & BJ for 10, even 5. She just looked to dirty to even stop for.
Of course the FAGS outnumbered the real women on the street even the skanks. But Fags NEVER get Busted.
Sunday I did find a Young Girl walking and took my offer of a ride, and after direct conversation, we stopped at a local bar. She was 22y/o, and tall and sexz. Once she had a few drinks she admitted she had been trickin since she was #14y/o, as she called it modeling. Yea! She started doing this which in Forida, and then moved to Atlanta with it.
She told me she was use to charging $150 and hr for FS, and has even gotten 200 for the same. At that point, I told her she was too expensive for me, and the most I would be willing to come across for her would be $50. That was still too much for me, but she was SEXZ KINDA THICK, & TALL. After 90 minutes of drinking three double Gins, and three regular beers, she was drunk. At that point even before, I was ready to leave. Giving her a ride to her sister place, we left. Then she told me she would come down to $100, and at that point I say no, and she was still too high.
HONESTLY, I was not about to have SEX with some drunk girl I bought drinks for, and then end up bring charged with Rape, even though there was Pay-per-View involved. I have NEVER like SEX with drunk women I don't know. LE would eat me alive over something me this. So again I declined, but I thought about it alot, but I thought BETTER.
We exchanged numbers, and by time I got home she called me, and say she needed to make some money, and if I still wanted it we could for 75, I said No, and she went to 50. At that point I told her I was home, and about to walk into my house. Of course I was still out and about, but she still sounded drunk. I could hear another girls low voice speaking in the background, and she was trying very hard, but I refuse. I could not tell then if it could have been a setup, or the real deal.
I did call her two days later, she told me she barely remembered the event, but clearly remembered me. She thaked me for NOT taking advantage of her, which I could in our ride to her sisters. She fall asleep several times. I had to really shake her hard to get er attention.
Because, I was a good/trusting guy about it, she is going to get to give me her Special Special. What that will be I am still waiting to see. But she is very greatful, for me getting her home, since that has NOT always been the situation in her case.
I will be letting you know after this weekend. Since it is Valentine Day weekend, I already had plans, so we will have to meet up, Tues.. Fri.
If you see some of those young girls walking, ask them if they need a ride. Catching them at a crosswalk while you are at a light, is a very good spot and start. Don't be stupid about it, because some will test you and let you take them to their destination. Once there they might exchange numbers, or start direct talks with you, but they don't come cheap. They also don't walk the streets like regular SW's. You will find them more at local bars/clubs, and at the local convenience stores. Be prepared to shell out $100-150. They are willing to walk, if they can't get their price.
The Drug Boyz are paying it, and have spoiled them on price, especially is they do any Stripping on the side too. They can easily make 500-800-1200 a week and some even more, if they are business minded. So why even work. It is not constant reliable money, so you need to catch them on the empty pockets side. There is a lot of Lock Door Underground Stripper parties going on. The bad weather slowed a few parties down, but didn't exactly stop them. I took a pass, the weather was too much for me.
So, that should help you catch Ya, one of those younger girls. And they are of both races too. But don't go asking everyone, because 50%of them are not, and don't play that game. Learn how to maintain a decent conversation without sounding GooFy. You will have to work that out, for yourself.
Hopefully I can get some usable PIX. Hopefully!
P.S.- Has anyone seen Misty lately. Once the Winter really hit she has been MIA. I have briefly seen Mandy,???/??? a while back, and White Gurl, for only a few days at most. They all are looking run down more than normal. Even my favorite RED has been MIA. I didn't see them on the Sheriffs Guest List.
STILL, MIA .... for over a Year has been Kiwi, Connie, Angie, Martha, RED (1), and many very Good Part-timers. Some may NEVER hit the streets again, and some may go online.
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[QUOTE=WordUp]Was it just me, or were the streets really that empty, on a very warm winters day. I saw 1-2 SW's out and they were all too skanky, to pick up.............................
P.S.- Has anyone seen Misty lately. Once the Winter really hit she has been MIA. I have briefly seen Mandy,???/??? a while back, and White Gurl, for only a few days at most. They all are looking run down more than normal. Even my favorite RED has been MIA. I didn't see them on the Sheriffs Guest List............................[/QUOTE]It has been mostly empty on the streets in OTR. A few nights early in the evening you're find them out in a group like Angie, Sharon, Brandy, Sonia, and Jaimey. I guess a lot of girls went south for the winter. Maybe they've moved away where the drugs went. Only skanky girls what you see because who really picks them up?
LEO has been hitting OTR hard on drug bust. During the last 6 weeks all the girls down there have been telling me LE coming at them hard. So I think a lot of them are in [b]other areas[/b] in OTR. I'll just leave it at that for now.
I did see Misty two weeks ago and know her story. She has moved and right now she is being careful. I like her a lot. She is always good to me. Takes her time and makes sure I'm pleased. She is up there with another favorite of mine like Red. Oh yeah, there are a couple of Reds out there so I'll call her Red 2.
I know from other sources that a lot of girls are in lock up like in Rehab places. Some have moved on.
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It is amazing sometime what people post on the forum, and continue to bounce around this forum blasting people.....................
I have been outside the USA on several occasions, and I know the mongering is far superior than here.......................
So if you ever decide to come to Cincinnati, Ohio to monger, then Uncle Simon has a Guest room for you. Three meals a day, and a cold bed. No Pool, No Phone, No Pets! He has cleared out every MP, Brothel, or anything alike within a three state area (Ohio, Ky, Indy), anything close to Cincy. Cincy is possibly the worse place to Monger in the whole USA. And we have the Lowest & Worse selection to choose from.[/QUOTE]First point Boom makes is true about people just come from out no where to flame someone here on the Cincinnati board or Cincinnati in general. Why they do that I don't know but they do earn my [b]list of guys I do not give them help[/b] with phone numbers or any info about where to search here in Cincinnati for girls.
I get PMs from guys from out of town coming to Cincy asking for info and I accommodate them as best I can.
Second point Boom makes is [b]Very True[/b] from my experience. I've mongered in several states and many cities here in USA. Chicago is where I got started and even though it is a bigger city than Cincinnati. The LE are three times harder on SWs in Cincinnati than in Chicago. At the time I was living in Chicago which was about ten years SWs were better looking and better service providers than here or any other places I've been.
I've been in several cities here in Ohio and can find better easier. Now I know that's not speaking well of Cincinnati but I've earn to say that. I've posted a lot here about alerts on LE and scammers and as much helpful info in our search for women for sex. It's my opinion based on comparison and experience. Sad but true about Cincinnati. We do have diamonds here but Damn you have to work three times as hard than in other cities.
Cincinnati has a long history against prostitution going back to the days of the prohibition days of booze and women from 1920 to 1933, during which the sale, manufacture, and transportation of alcohol for consumption were banned nationally as mandated in the Eighteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution. The Eighteenth Amendment was repealed with ratification of the Twenty-first Amendment, on December 5, 1933.
Back to Chicago days of mongering, I had SWs that not only looked like models but were pro models. One girl just liked to hook up and party and I found her SWing on the streets. I meet SWs from the Latino neighborhoods and they were just as good looking as the ones you see pics posted from the LA board. Latino Girls have great attitudes. I had Chinese SW once which is rare. I never mongered outside of USA but if the ethnic girls in Chicago are anything like foreign SWs then I can see they are better than USA women in general.
I had many girl friends from all Asian counties and from Europe and they are different than USA women in attitude. Girls friends from Japan, Taiwan, and even from Russia and they ask me why American women act differently than foreign women?
[b]Valentine Day[/b]
Well this weekend I did a double header on Valentine day. Found Blondie who I've not seen for a long time. We caught up on old times and what has been going on with her and other SWs we know. It was a good time this Saturday morning. I posted a pic of Blondie below. I got digits from her and some interesting info about LE and other SWs.
Then I hooked up with my Red and continued my fun filled Saturday afternoon valentine fun. See pic below of her. She is always good to me and takes her time for me. I did looked for another SW on Saturday night but the streets were empty or just skanks out and a few Fags. So I called it quit for the night.
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In LPH there are undercover cars and LE parked watching. I've seen them on State street between 8th street and Gest Street pulled in a drive way and in a drive way on Depot Street by Dutton Street just off 8th street.
Watch for red cars (SUV) driving around that area because they maybe undercover. All the girls in that area will tell you this.
Also I see LE in OTR in the church parking lot and across the street in the other parking lot from time to time. LE also parks on McMicken by Findlay corner. Be careful out there and watch closely.
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Sunday after Valentine's day: ziltch.
In all my years of crusing OTR, I have never seen ZERO candidates. Yes, many's the time when there were only repulsive girls on the street, but never zero. Several cycles through my route only turned up a white girl going into a door with a brother. MIGHT have been a candidate...
I do know that many are guests of the city state. Poor Angie is in a terrible downward spiral, but even she was not out.
Yes, warmer weather is in the offing, but we are in a drought at the moment. And, as indicated by Harpo and Word, extreme diligence is required if you are inclined to make a pick up. With so few candidates, it is easier for LE to keep tabs.
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THEY LOOK LIKE .... PEOPLE WE KNOW or USE TOO ????
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I was just looking at the photo gallery, at a few bodies, as I LOVE to do, and saw a girl with a body like Misty, and another kinda like Kiwi's. Just look at the girl in the Red mini nighties under the name of Shoes by Botoman, in Honolulu. That is how Misty's body looks from behind, just like that. Last Summer she was wearing a Black Mini Skirt like that, w/High Heel Scandals, and a kinda like Thong on. I got her one day when she was wearing jeans, and she told me about wearing it, and I told her to let me know next time. Well, she did, and MAN, DID SHE LOOK "DAMN" GOOD! I had her three times that day, and about seven times that week or two. She wore several versions of the outfit. Misty has a Great body and a decent face, and excellent skills.
She is just a damn "DING-BAT, DRUNK/DRUGGIE". She can truly get on your NERVES over nothing within seconds, and then you change your mind and kick her Ass to the curve. She can REALLY be "STUPID", even without being Drunk or on Drugs. But you can beat her for Skills and the Price, for FS.
Then look at Carol2, in Atlanta, from Hayashi04, that is how Kiwi, and another SW, looked from behind, and she was shapely and thick. Kiwi had a waist of #28, but hips of #42-44, at times even more. When she bent over, it was a thing of Butty/Beauty. She had thick shapely Legz too, and use to wear High Heels all the time when I first met her. She just had very little in the chest area, but it will do. She had another look alike girl, and her name started with a "C", but I can't remember her name. They both looked very close and I would mistake the two, for a while. I preferred Kiwi, but she became hard to find. She she good the resisting arrest charge, and after that, got even harder to find once out.
I have to include Martha, in her thinner years, and she was AWESOME. Man did that girl have a body. Misty and Martha use to strip in Ky. At some point. They both ended up taking there drug use too far, and got fired from their Stripper Job. Man do I miss Martha, she could put her Legz behind her head, and do it that way. I use to hit it like that all the time. And she did Anal like a champ, with no problem, especially when High.
Many may know a older WSW, in her early #40s was Connie. She was a serious Ding-Bat, and did the Dumbest Shyt, like leaving her purse at someones Apt. She doesn't know, to go on a Car Date. When she got back her money was gone, and other stuff, but the purse was still there. I know thing, because I had dropped her off just a short time before. I saw her money, and told her to be very careful, and not loose her money/stuff.
She did a lot of thing stuff, until people would just walk up to her and take her money. So she moved back to indy, and I rarely saw her anymore.
Presently, we just have Misty, Mandy, WhteGurl, Sara, Whitley, and a very few others including many different "Reds". These are full timers, and the only ones we see out on a regular basis. The police know them too, so they are easy prey to them. We got a few full timers that will underground now, until the Winter is gone. They still work the streets, but never like the other girls. These SW's ain't druggies, but need to make Ends Meet Up. They will usually keep minutes more often, and keep your number and call you, for a Car Date.
In the Blue, it's the "BLUES". The CPD is doing what the Sheriffs dept. , started, and is doing it well. This Winter made it harder, and the LE made it HARD, but Stupidity has made it almost IMPOSSIBLE. These girls get Stupid over Drugs, Men, Drinking, and Competition. And why do these girl seem to think that Elm street near McMik, is the only place, they can b, or even on Race just off McMik. If they would move around, we will find them, and away from the regular areas. The new ones and part-timers seem to get this.
I have tried to give them a few hints, and they say they are good ones and they work, but they all migrate back to the BAD Spots, and sooner or later get busted. I always drive pass them, even if I know them well. I have had them to start walking in front of my car and others, not letting you drive off until, they give you a Sales Pitch. At some point someone is going to get RUN OVER, by a stranger, and they will NEVER catch them.
I have a very good book of reliable SW's, but I don't like to share them, unless, I know you VERY WELL! Very, very few I know that WELL! I trust NO ONE, and don't care if people trust me. I know those on this board wh are real, and the rest. Are just that. The REST!
I have had to got to my Book of Numbers, and if they have minutes, which they seldom do, I know they will make time. They NEVER say "NO", and unually have a place to go. The house joints work well too, but you have to know when someone will be home and available. Like I said they have regular jobs to, and they have to be at their homes to to take care of the kids, and whatever.
Some of the places have closed up, due to Landlords not paying the mortgage, and the places were sold, or foreclosed on, and they have to restart the business. Once the Warm weather hits, they won't have to worry about heating the place. It is easier to be in a place that is Too Hot, than one that is Too Cold. Not Freezing, just not enough heat to be comfortable. Fans can keep you cool, in the Summer.
LASTLY, if you are visiting Cincy and want to Monger, don't. You are better to use ESCORTS or the CL, the the streets here. Street SW's are not of decent quality here, and the Police got a Hard on over SW's than they do over Drug Dealers. But they are still hard on Drug Dealers. THey Police know all the places SW's will be, and they have a lot of time to just sit in areas, and do nothing but watch folks. Not a lot of crime going on here Huh!
You will NOT get anyone to show you around, advise you, exchange numbers, or anything else. We are VERY PARANOID Here. It is valid that we are, and folks will roll over on you, if pressed.
REALLY I AM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, because others may do just that, show you around, unless you are a Major Major Senior Member. I have in the past, and will again, but if you are NOT. PLEASE DON'T ASK!
Oh by the way, I have been told, several times the Tues. & Thurs. , are "Task Force" days, and they hit the streets hard on those days, and do a lot of pick ups, and stings. BeWare and Know Your Monger Area.
We need more info on BondHill, Roselawn, and other alike area reports.
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Harpo, I did know a many of LE's spots and a few not mentioned, but I am very glad you posted them. You can NEVER post them too often. LE must have gotten a budget increase, using the money they use to give to the Sheriff.
The same goes for Giani, and his posted advice and suggestions. When the old PRO's tell you things are BAD, and the streets are empty, then things really are.
WORD. Well I think you still have some inside information you have yet to advise us of, but all in due time. FYI as needed. I do know you have some info, that needs to be posted, but LE could use it to make things even worse.
I did find one for the books yesterday. I won't tell LE where, but I found her, about to run into a convenience store on McMic. I waited outside, and when she came out, we give each other the look, and it was on.
She asked $50, and I immediately said "Hell No", but before I could say Bye, she said 40, and I said no again. She asked me, what I was willing to pay, and I said for her no more than 20, she then asked 30, and I told her 25w/pic, and she agreed.
She had a spot, at a friends place, and the friend had just left, giving her the key. As she began to disrobe, she wants her money. I told her I don't give newbies money up front. I told her I'd give her 10 to start, and the rest at the end. She still refuses, and we begin to argue alittle, as she is still disrobing. I still refused to give her any money then told her to put her clothes back on, and I was leaving. One final time I told her, if she wants to make the money this is the deal, and this is how it will be.
I really could have given her the money, but I played HARDBALL, because once she began to disrobe, she wasn't as well built as she looked, and she started smelling alittle "Musty" the more clothes she took off. Then I really noticed she was missing some teeth, and it looked more like meth usage, than crack, and the more I saw, the more I was convinced it was.
So, I skyed up, and told her to get her clothes on, and I took her back to the spot I picked her up at. At that point she want to do it my way, but I was no longer interested, and wanted to get rid of her. She even wanted to do just pic for 10 and then 5, jsut to make something. I told her next time, when I say it is this way (mine) I mean it. It is my way or the highway. Again at this point, I just wanted out, and took my opportunity.
I did see one other WSW out, and in her days, she use to dress sexy, and looked decent, but those days are long pass her. She isn't too for off from decent, but she is getting there. Plus, like most she has stopped wearing her sign, and only by picking her up do you really know just how STUPID, she/they really are. She still has a decent personality and attitude.
I did check, Mt. Auburn, Walnut Hills, Evanston, Avondale, Roselawn, and Westwood (+LPH/UPH), and there was nothing at all to be found, or I could find. If I saw anything that looked interesting, it disappeared, by time I looped back around. Once the Spring hits and people start walking around on their own, things will pick up, dramatically.
BE PREPARED TO PAY MORE, FOR DECENT LOOKS.
I say that because a lot of Younger Girls are probing getting their money via, a little side tricking. Nothing LE can put a finger on, and they will not be walking the streets, like normal. You might see them sitting with their friends, like every young girl does, the deal will be is that they all will know what each other is doing, but not all may do it. I think they will be working through connections from eacch other, and from some of the dudes they know. They are not really Pimps, but know, how to make connections, or as we call them referrals, for a price. Most of these girl smoke M. J. , and having the dude hook them up with a decent money source, will work out.
Many of the young girls see nothing wrong, in Trickin, because they know they are going to be giving it to someone anyway, so why not get paid for it.
And you will be amazed at how much they are into FREAKY SEX. I mean, many are into ANAL, ORAL, H.J., and so much more, and over half of them are Big Time " Bi ", and have had moresomes with Men & Women, all before the age of #21y, and I would bet it really is a lot younger.
Anything under #16 is Big Trouble so stay up around #20/y, and you can't go wrong, if you can find them that young. All too often they might approach you, first, for they are BOLD if given the chance to be.
Too many have Official looking FAKE I.D.'s. So, you can't always go by that.
One of the girls (19y), I know from Madisonville, let one of the little boyz get her prego, and now she can't get around. She want to make money, but is too damn STUPID, to work her way around. I think she should be about 6-7 months by now. And her friends have stopped hanging with her. How bright can she be, if she let some little half ass boyfriend/pimp/whatever knock her up.
See what I mean.
Enough Said!
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HARPO is absolutely right. The biggest problem is these girls NEVER keep minutes, and often can't call you, or you them, bcause of that. If that were NOT the case, I would be able to hit them up, every week. I have even bought phone cards in trade plus money to equal payment, and just a few days later they are out of them. They just get too "STUPID" about being on the phone, and using their business minute, just to run their month on the phone.
I got this advice from "WORDUP" and he told me a long while back to use the reliable girl to recruit other girls to you, and give them a good finders fee. In this way, if she don't have minutes she can use her friend, to get with you, and then they both can get paid.
This works great, and I have had a HUGE amount of Luck doing this. The biggest problem with this is that often, these girls move around alot, and are hard to catch up with. They often move from relative-to-friend and back. From neighborhood close then to one far away. But it is a very good plan/idea.
I can see that Harpo's RED is not mine. My RED's are two blacks and one white, but not the one in the photo. My RED will do pic's but would never ever, allow facial shot. I am still shocked at that. Regardless of what I tell them, they know at some point their pic will end up on the net. Some even know it will be on this site, even though they don't always know the name. They can explain it, but they don't always have access to a computer to surf it.
The other week, I found an older WSW, who gave me the "Out-Gas-Story", and needed to get some money. She looked to be in her mid-to-late 40's, and was about average looking, not skanky, and a very decent body. I meet her at one of the WE convenience stores. As I stopped for a cheap energy drink, she made a proposal to me, and I took her up on it.
We went to a "House Notel" @ $5+2tip to use for 30min. We did the deal, and I took some pix which I have been too lazy to post as yet. She let me as long as I did not take her face. . So I took my shots. I was a little turned off, because I like it well shaved, but, couldn't afford to be choosy at the time. Her BJ skills were great, and best of all, she took her teeth out, and "MAN DID IT FEEL GOOD."
She want $40, but we settled for $25. She was with her boyfriend who was sitting in their car, on a side street. This gave them enough money for gas and food. I started to give her a tip, but with no digits, I keep my mouth shut. She told me where she likes to hang out, all I need to do is see her car, and she will be there.
She was a good piece of ass, and really liked it banged hard and fast doggie style. Giving her what she liked, she seemed to come hard. It all seemed real, but I believe it was.
So it is good to create a well defined plan to achieve what you want, and learn to get around LE. There have been times when LE was right outside, on the street, and I walked right pass them into an SW's place for fun. Inside someones home, there is little LE can do, unless they personally catch them.
While I am arriving at an appointment, LE is totally unaware, as I look like everyone else, as I walk by. I have even picked up SW coming out of their homes into my car, because there is nothing wrong with that. Nothing illegal there. If it it a know SW, I just tell her to meet me at a general location, where many people will be, so it looks ordinary.
I know it sound like too much, but learn to put a little planning into everything. And I mean everything. If you learn to your success rate will dramatically go up, and as I say before I got this from "WORDUP", who told me about doing this over a year or so ago.
I has been hugely successful, but only when the girls stay in one place long enough, or keep minutes on a reliable cell phone, or stop loosing, and then changing cell phones. Changing cell phones so often is another very big problem. At least with no minute, they keep the same number, and you can still call.
In fact I got an appointment last week, from a number of a person I lost touch with, and she still had the same number. It took 3 days for her to call me back, but at least I could leave a message. Best of all, I got with her that night, for only $25, because she was broke.
She would have done anything for more money, even pix. We had limited time because she has a Girlfriend, and she was due home soon. I think I will be doing both of them, but her girlfriend will take a Vibrator/Dildo, but not a real Dick. She will be taking to her about a 3some, moresome. They have done it before, but they have to talk it over, before allowing any men between her legs.
Still, even this, she really ain't all that, but she is reliable, VERY !!!! She has a daughter I think tricks on the side, but I need to investigate MORE!
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Judge Joe Brown .... Did You See It Today ... 3/3/09 ....
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I caught the tell end of Judge Joe Brown, but I saw two girls on there and I could swore I have seen them before. They look very much like a couple of girls I know from here in Cincinnati, who do the underground routine. They look like a couple of Strippers that work the routine here, and use to do the Private Club scene.
The one in the jeans was Bangin, and the other in the Black was too. I did not here where they were from, but they were very familiar. JJB was on at 12 noon today.
If they are not the ones, then they have carbon copies here. They are impressively build, and I have been with them several time, but it was over a year ago or more. I have herad they had moved to Atlanta, to make more money, and do traveling strip shows from there. I have heard they are making Biggy Money there.
And if this is them, they are very skilled, and can be GFE, if they like you, but it is about the MONEY. REGARDLESS!
Did Anyone See the Show?
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