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[QUOTE=Admin2;1934568]What Loki is referring to is the two different types of ink I use. When I'm posting in black like this I'm just another guy on the forum. [BLUE]However, when I post in blue, I'm posting as the Admin, otherwise known as the voice of fucking God on this forum.[/BLUE]
In black, I'm just another asshole and you can call me one.
[BLUE]Voice of God, don't fuck with me.[/BLUE]
A2.
Oh yeah, I forgot [BLUE]Loki is an asshole[/BLUE].
LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Admin2;1934568]
Oh yeah, I forgot [BLUE]Loki is an asshole[/BLUE].
LOL.[/QUOTE]"All the people like us are we, and everyone else is they.
― Rudyard Kipling.
;)
Peace[RED]...[/RED]
PK
[QUOTE=BowlerGeno;1952404]The reason for these sites is for us mongers to share info [/QUOTE]If, indeed, this forum is for the open "sharing" of information and you've been at this for 10+ years, why is it that you've "shared" so little information? I'll answer for you. It's because you want all the benefits from this forum, yet are reluctant to contribute, for whatever reason. I, too, believe this forum is about sharing of information and to me sharing, as I was taught when I was about 3 years old, is about both people giving and receiving derived benefit.
My point here is that for someone to need to contribute in order to gain information is not BS. Quite the contrary, its the carrot that's being dangled for them to eek there way out of their shell and start adding posts that others can benefit from, including you. If everyone posted 11 post in 10+ years this forum would be utterly worthless. In fact you say it best when you mention all of us working together. Part of working together is contributing. Might I suggest you start!
Just my 2 cents worth.
L10.
[QUOTE=Levi10;1954049]I, too, believe this forum is about sharing of information and to me sharing, as I was taught when I was about 3 years old, is about both people giving and receiving derived benefit.
My point here is that for someone to need to contribute in order to gain information is not BS. [red]... [/red]
. Part of working together is contributing. Might I suggest you start!
Just my 2 cents worth.
L10.[/QUOTE]Levi has dome a fine job of articulating the general belief of 'Senior Members' that give and take is an important mantra. First we [RED]'GIVE'[/RED] then we [RED]'TAKE'[/RED].
QUID PRO QUO boys!!
I understand that many newb 'types' don't think it necessary to participate before asking questions. Whether you have been 'around' our hobby for decades or just starting out, the need for good information is vital to good, safe, hobby practices. The truth is that as a new member you don't need to go out and TOFTT and report back before anyone helps. What you need to do is [RED]PARTICIPATE!!![/RED] that can be simply getting involved in the discussion or posting an introduction and asking questions ABOUT the hobby.
Most individuals that 'don't have a clue' start off first with a question about this girl or that girl. Which is a mistake, if you consider what would be the dynamic of the same conversation in a bar. Imagine 3 guys talking about the girls they have seen and the activities provided and for what price...Suddenly, a stranger appears and says 'What do you know about 'Sally Rottencrotch'? " All 3 guys would shut up and be like 'Who the fuck are you?' 'Piss off jerk-off and ask your mother..." yada yada yada RIGHT!
That is what tends to happen when a stranger interjects themselves in an unfamiliar group's discussion. So why would you think it is any different in an internet forum?
If you have ever seen the movie 'Animal House" and Flounder walks up to the guys obviously playing poker and says 'You guys playin' cards... And everybody stops and looks at him like the knucklehead that he is-THAT!! Is what WE do when we get that kind of question.
So the new guys can understand where this all comes from, remember- 10 yrs ago there was no craigslist or backpage etc... We had to prowl the streets or know a friend who knew a girl who provided service. When that was the case, we all guarded our secrets closely so some Jabronie didn't ruin a good thing. Times were much harder back then, so we played our cards close to the vest. That culture still exists today. Why should I give a new guy with no history the keys to my dragon horde and let him go fuck things up? I have been able to accrue a list of DOZENS of ladies to call, who can see me at a moments notice and cure what ails me- Which is a VAST improvement over driving the stroll for hours looking for some toothless Tammy to lick the lizard. I don't do the streetwalker thing anymore, not with the list of lovely girls I have seen and continue to see.
Talk about SO MUCH BETTER! Words cannot describe the happiness in my soul to go to a hotel room, take a shower, pay the lady, get naked and enjoy the carnal debauchery that will surely ensue!
Now, all we ask is that members [RED]PARTICIPATE!!![/RED] If you think that is 'bullshit' or 'bs' ...let me know how you feel about that in a year- after you take 800 PM's requesting the number and address of your ATF. After you give the number out to some faceless stranger who then goes and abuses that girl so badly that she leaves the biz forever. After she won't take your calls anymore because she thinks you are friends with that asshole. After you can't get a date because the girls talk and decide you have the wrong friends and they won't risk it with you because they think you are part of 'those guys'.
Yes, we are a difficult group to become entrenched with. We don't share our information as freely as the bloodsuckers would like. But the truth is- WE DO! Read the fucking forums!! Almost ALL the answers to those dickhead questions have been answered already, many are just too lazy to do their own research. So they just ask a blunt ' HAs anyone seen 'Sally Stinkpants'? Yeah, we have! She was the topic of debate last week, but you don't want to go back and search so why not just ask?
Fuck, I can't even begin to count the number of times I was promised information back if I provided digits upfront and got NOTHING! Got to be in the hundreds of times by now. The words 'Give and Take' are presented since time eternal in that order '[RED]FOR GOOD REASON[/RED].
Peace.
PK.
Listen to the man, now I will provide an example why.
In the not so distant future I received countless PM's regarding a particular massage provider, I won't mention any names in this post nor via pm, just felt the need to share after reading what Loki just said.
Some 1 post 'POG' (piece of garbage) that I provided with BASIC info decided to use me, w / o my consent, as a reference via my screen name. As a long time customer the provider knew my screen name and happily obliged the 'POG' with an appointment. Well this scumbag, low life was a pushy arrogant loser and didn't want to play by the rules, so apparently every time he overstepped a boundary it was followed up with I (that would be ME) said it was allowed.
I received a text message asking me to never refer her to anyone I know again, the creep ' I sent ' tried to short her on the donation, was pushy, had terrible hygiene, etc. Needless to say my texts from that point were never answered again, nor my calls. A lose lose situation for her and I. Obviously she was wayyy creeped out and in her eyes, I had a major part in why.
Now I understand the guys who say they will provide info via PM to senior members only, makes a hell of a lot of sense. It makes one wonder how many 'POG' have used the more popular names here as reference w / o any consent after reading a review or comment. I'd bet most of the 1 post wonders are actually one in the same continuously making up new screen names, hoping to get a reputable reviewer to fall for the bait. In my case it was complete made up bullshit but how the hell do you police that?
Proceed with caution Gents.
Fox.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1955412]Levi has dome a fine job of articulating the general belief of 'Senior Members' that give and take is an important mantra. First we [RED]'GIVE'[/RED] then we [RED]'TAKE'[/RED].
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]Look at it this way, it's not so much that people are "new", but rather that they are unknown. Not only is there the possibility of you being uncle LEO, but there's a handful of douches on here that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire much less share any kind of info with. If you don't participate and prove yourself, how does anybody know you're not another of those douches?
Believe me, I know how it is. I started out asking for information, and Loki called me on it. I, however understood where he was coming from and overcame. At least I think I did. Maybe I'm just delusional and all these guys think I'm one of the douches. Haha.
Guys? GUYS!?
Well then.
[QUOTE=SilverFox69;1955505]Listen to the man, now I will provide an example why.
In the not so distant future I received countless PM's regarding a particular massage provider, I won't mention any names in this post nor via pm, just felt the need to share after reading what Loki just said.
Some 1 post 'POG' (piece of garbage) that I provided with BASIC info decided to use me, w / o my consent, as a reference via my screen name. As a long time customer the provider knew my screen name and happily obliged the 'POG' with an appointment. Well this scumbag, low life was a pushy arrogant loser and didn't want to play by the rules, so apparently every time he overstepped a boundary it was followed up with I (that would be ME) said it was allowed.
I received a text message asking me to never refer her to anyone I know again, the creep ' I sent ' tried to short her on the donation, was pushy, had terrible hygiene, etc. Needless to say my texts from that point were never answered again, nor my calls. A lose lose situation for her and I. Obviously she was wayyy creeped out and in her eyes, I had a major part in why.
Now I understand the guys who say they will provide info via PM to senior members only, makes a hell of a lot of sense. It makes one wonder how many 'POG' have used the more popular names here as reference w / o any consent after reading a review or comment. I'd bet most of the 1 post wonders are actually one in the same continuously making up new screen names, hoping to get a reputable reviewer to fall for the bait. In my case it was complete made up bullshit but how the hell do you police that?
Proceed with caution Gents.
Fox.[/QUOTE]Silver Fox your past experience with some member falsely using your handle as a reference is the reason that I have always informed the woman that I will ONLY share her contact information with those senior members and some regular members that I know to be " legit " contributors to this site or other sites that I am on. The woman and I establish a " code word or words " that she must hear from the man. If she doesn't hear the code words as we agreed in advance, then she knows that the recommendation did NOT come from me. As SilverFox said, anyone reading this site could contact the woman and say " " Quail " sent me or " Quail " and I are best buddies. " I do this because I not only want to protect the woman from a newbie jerk / creep, but also possible LE that may be monitoring these sites. And I want to insure that this woman who I have enjoyed personally as well as my friends and trusted fellow members have enjoyed, continues to safely provide her services to us for a long time to come. Very often the provider will send me HANDLE on the site as well as his REAL name. Many times when a member contacts this woman, the member give his real name (or a fake real name) . While I do know many members real names as well as their handles, for the most part I do not. So when the provider tell me that " Tom Swift " called, I have no clue what " Tom Swift's " handle is. Shit, I just used the name Tom Swift, who was a character in a series of boys books in the 1950's that I read- Like the Hardy Boys series or the Nancy Drew series of books for girls. My " tenure and experience (and yes Loki, my age " are showing here. LOL. That is why I ask the woman to get me the handle.
I, probably more than most members, have found or tried someone new and, always with the providers permission. Been willing to post a review or comments and share her information. But I always ask her permission in case she wishes to remain UTR. If she chooses UTR and perhaps wants ONLY a few new clients, then I will only contact by private message those trusted members that I believe will enjoy her particular skills or looks.
I don't mind if folks are hard on new posters, the community polices itself, and works.
For the most part, my PMs are in RFIs, not requests for me. That's mostly because I don't frequent the locals, my mongering is out of town. The "don't shit where you eat" mantra applies. If I go local it's either someone I'm sure of, or a total TOFTT in a situation where a girl is someone I think I've run into out of town, so while maybe new to Albany not necessarily new to a traveller.
I only mention this because as a traveller, I do often rely on information from communities like this in other towns, often on other sites. So in that sense I do sympathize somewhat with infrequent but out of town requests. That doesn't mean a healthy dose of skepticism is out of line, or inappropriate, because in my experience real mongers know how give and take works. It's a universal system in my experience, and give is expected before take.
Not really a rant, but the thread is touching a topic I have to deal with in my travels.
Oh and I'm glad to see "Brooke" has gone solo and is getting positive attention. I reviewed her here many months ago and she was excellent. Not really my type, but she puts it all into her sessions and anyone who doesn't have fun with a girl who tries clearly has too small a sample for context.
I have been trying to get together with my 'all time'-ATF and have not been having any luck. I just don't want to drive out to her place. From my comfort zone it is a good 20 minutes one way, maybe more with traffic. Allowing for missed calls and bullshit it would be 50-55 minutes round trip plus the time for the date. So I have not seen her in more than a few months.
Holiday season has arrived and so have the 'I'm available' texts from the aforementioned 'atf'. We have a code so it is not an issue, and she has followed contact procedure without a problem. Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
Now before we get all on the 'I told you so' /'You should know better' bandwagon--believe me when I tell you that I am under no illusions when it comes to this business...and DO NOT get stars in my eyes / or get all misty-eyed thinking about our time together. The issue is the absolute rude nasty attitude I got when I couldn't make our timetables match up. Seriously, after trying to set a meet on Saturday she was hot and heavy to meet ...then 4 hrs until next contact! Obviously, I had made other arrangements and my time to play was over. I told her I couldn't meet and she hung up the phone! WoW very surprised, not like the girl I had seen for years previously, not at all.
No time to play on Sunday :( so... 'thanks, no thanks text' replied to her, and I hear crickets. Usually, she would say sorry hun and maybe tomorrow...yada yada yada. Today the texts came in at 9:30 am, 11:30 and 3 pm and sorry but I'm working so I text, 'I'll call after 6'... and no reply. I call her at 5:55 6:15 6:45 and nothing. I hear back at almost 8 pm and she wants to see me an hour after that. I apologized and said that would not work and she hung-up on me again. Frankly, I was pissed, like really annoyed- pissed. Too bad because I couldn't even begin to explain how much coin I spent on her since 2009-2010 OMFG!.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1963188]Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]All Women look at us Guys as their personal Money Machines. So this shouldn't be a Big Secret. All Women, Hookers or Regular Girls Love Dead Presidents over a Living Guy. Very few Women like a Guy for who he is. Glad you found a new replacement.
I too get that Christmas time rush. Need money to buy gifts bullshit. Unless their offspring are getting crack rocks in their stockings. I had one girl tell me she needed to get her kid a gift cert for Christmas. I told her I would pick it up on my way to see her and she's like oh no you don't need to do that. They won't be open that early. Dam ladies don't fuckin lie to us. We are not stupid for Christ's sake.
Merry Christmas mongers.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1963188]
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]If this is a certain spinner that I'm thinking of, that's disappointing. She's generally a good provider.
[QUOTE=Thompson7675;1963348]I too get that Christmas time rush. Need money to buy gifts bullshit. Unless their offspring are getting crack rocks in their stockings. I had one girl tell me she needed to get her kid a gift cert for Christmas. I told her I would pick it up on my way to see her and she's like oh no you don't need to do that. They won't be open that early. Dam ladies don't fuckin lie to us. We are not stupid for Christ's sake.
Merry Christmas mongers.[/QUOTE]I did take my ATF Christmas Shopping tonight. I bought her Toys for her kids. When you actually go with her and she gets Toys and things for her kids, then you know how the Money is being spent. She treats me Great when I see her. At least I know that the Money was spent on Gifts for her kids.
Ron M.
Consider what you did, a very nice gesture. Yes, when you know they actually use the money for what they say, is a nice feeling and goes a long way.
[QUOTE=RonM;1963357]I did take my ATF Christmas Shopping tonight. I bought her Toys for her kids. When you actually go with her and she gets Toys and things for her kids, then you know how the Money is being spent. She treats me Great when I see her. At least I know that the Money was spent on Gifts for her kids.[/QUOTE]
LPK.
Not sure what respond to this other than I know exactly what you are saying.
I had an ATF for a spell before I realized very quickly the same line she was giving me she was giving to him and him and him and him. At that point, I found others to spend time with and eventually weeded her out.
To date, I still get the texts from the former ATF asking for $. I don't think it will ever end!! No, I do not give in and pony up!! Not going to happen.
To add up what I gave her over a short amount of time would have me really pissed off.
Happy Holidays all!!
EL.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1963188]I have been trying to get together with my 'all time'-ATF and have not been having any luck. I just don't want to drive out to her place. From my comfort zone it is a good 20 minutes one way, maybe more with traffic. Allowing for missed calls and bullshit it would be 50-55 minutes round trip plus the time for the date. So I have not seen her in more than a few months.
Holiday season has arrived and so have the 'I'm available' texts from the aforementioned 'atf'. We have a code so it is not an issue, and she has followed contact procedure without a problem. Problem is that I have spoken to her 4 times in the last 4 days and it has become more than obvious that I represent nothing more than an ATM to supplement the holiday shopping spree.
Now before we get all on the 'I told you so' /'You should know better' bandwagon--believe me when I tell you that I am under no illusions when it comes to this business...and DO NOT get stars in my eyes / or get all misty-eyed thinking about our time together. The issue is the absolute rude nasty attitude I got when I couldn't make our timetables match up. Seriously, after trying to set a meet on Saturday she was hot and heavy to meet ...then 4 hrs until next contact! Obviously, I had made other arrangements and my time to play was over. I told her I couldn't meet and she hung up the phone! WoW very surprised, not like the girl I had seen for years previously, not at all.
No time to play on Sunday :( so... 'thanks, no thanks text' replied to her, and I hear crickets. Usually, she would say sorry hun and maybe tomorrow...yada yada yada. Today the texts came in at 9:30 am, 11:30 and 3 pm and sorry but I'm working so I text, 'I'll call after 6'... and no reply. I call her at 5:55 6:15 6:45 and nothing. I hear back at almost 8 pm and she wants to see me an hour after that. I apologized and said that would not work and she hung-up on me again. Frankly, I was pissed, like really annoyed- pissed. Too bad because I couldn't even begin to explain how much coin I spent on her since 2009-2010 OMFG!.
So I go do some Christmas shopping and got bored and made a few other calls. Destiny was able to see me on short notice...FUN was had by ALL ;).
And I made sure to leave a little extra coin for the Christmas season! Good for Destiny!! Bad for my old friend C'est la vie!!
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]
What really spins my head around was the rude attitude when she wasn't getting what she wanted. She was all warm and charming when I was trying to set the date. As soon as she realized it wasn't going to work out she got rude, short and hung up.
No problem seeing as I haven't been seeing her 3-4 times per week anymore. I moved on to better things long ago. But it was just a little bit painful to see the true colors of her personality shine through. I have now deleted her from my contact list and have placed several others who actually provide BETTER service ON my ATF list.
There are always options for BOTH sides in this equation- Later 'gator!
Peace.
PK.
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Seriously?
You gotta bust my ass on Christmas Eve?
A2[/blue]
She has been blowing up my phone since 10 am! Yeah, real nice...because she knows I would normally give her at least 2 x's her rate for a Christmas gift.
Such is life!
Just goes to show you, 'it's nothing personal Sonny, strictly business'!
Merry Christmas Eve Boys and girls! ;).
Peace.
PK.
What's the old saying? Tell her No once, you'll see how much she likes you. Or NOT!
I hear you on the sweetness until she hears no. Then the real beast makes the scene.
EL.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1963671]She has been blowing up my phone since 10 am! Yeah, real nice...because she knows I would normally give her at least 2 x's her rate for a Christmas gift.
Such is life!
Just goes to show you, 'it's nothing personal Sonny, strictly business'!
Merry Christmas Eve Boys and girls! ;).
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EddieLewis;1963691]What's the old saying? Tell her No once, you'll see how much she likes you. Or NOT!
I hear you on the sweetness until she hears no. Then the real beast makes the scene.
EL.[/QUOTE]True, True, True story right there!!
Nail on the head!!
Peace.
PK.
What is the deal with girls who post ads saying "available all day" and then when you call they can't see you until after 4 pm?
I mean 'what's with that, anyway'?.... Too bad, because I was hoping to see a girl when I was in her neighborhood and she told me she was out shopping and wouldn't be back until after 4.
Now I know many folks just put up the same ad day after day without making any adjustment, but really... Is it too hard to not place the ad until you are ready to see customers? Or to adjust the ad copy to be correct?
I don't expect most of the ladies to have the marketing skills of Ron Popeil, but jeeze! Am I the only one who thinks that phone skills and attention to detail in the ad may be a reflection of the service as well?
End Rants for 2013 ;).
Peace.
PK.
Folks.
My Norton's is blocking something called Nuclear Exploit Kit Website when I get on this site. Not sure what it is but thank God my Norton's is earning its keep!!
I equate this to the provider's skills in general. Be assured I do not expect magna cum laude however truth in statements made goes a long way with me. With that in mind, I have walked out of more than one hotel when someone who has emphatically stated that they are indeed the girl in the pic and another creature shows up wanting to provide service. Lok I have had the exact same experience looking to play mid day and swung and missed with girls who's ad states available any time day or night. They never saw a penny of this kids money! Girls. Listen up. Proof read your listing prior to posting it. Make sure it represents you accurately. You will get far better reviews which leads to repeat business which means more cash.
Rant done!
L10.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1964983]What is the deal with girls who post ads saying "available all day" and then when you call they can't see you until after 4 pm?
I mean 'what's with that, anyway'?.... Too bad, because I was hoping to see a girl when I was in her neighborhood and she told me she was out shopping and wouldn't be back until after 4.
Now I know many folks just put up the same ad day after day without making any adjustment, but really... Is it too hard to not place the ad until you are ready to see customers? Or to adjust the ad copy to be correct?
I don't expect most of the ladies to have the marketing skills of Ron Popeil, but jeeze! Am I the only one who thinks that phone skills and attention to detail in the ad may be a reflection of the service as well?
End Rants for 2013 ;).
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]
Ladies,
Ditch the attitude of the phone. I am calling to get information. I am interested in meeting you, if I wasn't I wouldn't be calling. The call, however, is not a guarantee that it will work out and if it doesn't I haven't "wasted your time", some of the information you gave me prevented me from seeing you this time. It may have been the price, the location, the time your available, it could have been a number of things.
However I can tell you this, if you give me a pissy attitude just because I won't book an appt. Right then and there, your phone won't be ringing with my number on your caller I'd. Ever.
We the hobbyists aren't the enemy. Remember that. If you can't, go work at McDonalds where I would like a large fry with that please.
[URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/time-is-expiring-5184917956-24/13385572[/URL]
[RED]Time is expiring 518-4****56 - 24
Cute sexy crazy fun everybody wants me because I'm number one bet you won't say I'm not what would you bet on it the stakes must be generous Schenectady ny any time of day you can reach me to set up a time 518-4****56 and I will talk to you soon
Poster's age: 24
• Location: Albany, Schenectady
• Post ID: 13385572 Albany[/RED]
Now normally I would not pull out an ad for ridicule... BUT! Since Msanders brought up the whole idea of phone skills, I thought I would present it in a broader scale ie. TCB skills as a concept. Many girls make horrible choices and mistakes by either choosing the WRONG photos...such as in this example IMHO. (The horrible pimple assed twerk shot must be akin to a guy sending a girl a 'cock-shot') ABSOLUTELY NOT SEXY! Or, they word the ad in a borderline retarded manner...again, such as we see here ;)
Also, there is a definite correlation between the bad grammar / wording / incoherent run-on sentences and bad service / upsell /'list of no's" etc. Having come to that realization, much like Msanders, if the phone skills are rude or nasty or just 'off then I move on to greener pastures as well.
Peace.
PK.
The funny thing about the ad you just posted is that she is always walking the stroll in schnectady tweeking out. I have never experienced her or tried to she always looks out of it. LOL.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1990269][URL]http://albany.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/time-is-expiring-5184917956-24/13385572[/URL]
[RED]Time is expiring 518-4****56 - 24
Cute sexy crazy fun everybody wants me because I'm number one bet you won't say I'm not what would you bet on it the stakes must be generous Schenectady ny any time of day you can reach me to set up a time 518-4****56 and I will talk to you soon
Poster's age: 24
• Location: Albany, Schenectady
• Post ID: 13385572 Albany[/RED]
Now normally I would not pull out an ad for ridicule... BUT! Since Msanders brought up the whole idea of phone skills, I thought I would present it in a broader scale ie. TCB skills as a concept. Many girls make horrible choices and mistakes by either choosing the WRONG photos...such as in this example IMHO. (The horrible pimple assed twerk shot must be akin to a guy sending a girl a 'cock-shot') ABSOLUTELY NOT SEXY! Or, they word the ad in a borderline retarded manner...again, such as we see here ;)
Also, there is a definite correlation between the bad grammar / wording / incoherent run-on sentences and bad service / upsell /'list of no's" etc. Having come to that realization, much like Msanders, if the phone skills are rude or nasty or just 'off then I move on to greener pastures as well.
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]
AND...another perfect example of what NOT TO POST!
LOL.
Peace.
PK.
[QUOTE=LokiPk;1991715]AND...another perfect example of what NOT TO POST!
LOL.
Peace.
PK.[/QUOTE]She is swallowing that thong right through get skin!
I am sorry to rant about this AGAIN...BUT!
Why is it always that when I, and I assume other's, post reviews and reports about the ladies we see ...I get 101 PM's asking for more details? WHAT! MORE details?! WTF?! I mean seriously fellas how much more fucking detail do you want?
ALSO, how come 98.99% of these questions are BCD? Ask your questions in the public forum for pity's sake! Chances are somebody else may have the same questions. PARTICIPATE FUCKER!
I have PM's from folks I have never even heard off...ZERO reports...ZERO posts...Joined 2 years ago!! HOLY SHIT! P-A-are-T-I=see-I-P-A-T-E!
SHARE AND SHARE alike.
I don't mean to go off like a devil in church, but after so many years of playing and reporting AND RANTING...people still don't 'get it'. A user based group / forum depends on the USERS to PARTICIPATE!
For the record, I will no longer be responding to PM's from non-active members. And by 'non-active' I mean guys with ZERO activity, and 1000 questions. To those who have earned their stripes and have taken a step back- no worries- ask away.
Am I the only one who feels this way?
Peace.
PK.
Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.
[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2020224]Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.[/QUOTE]Post the report as YOU saw it. Even though it may be the same, it will be different because its yours. Everyone has a different perspective and every little bit helps.
Call them like YOU see them:).
Peace.
PK.
[QUOTE=RAAlbany;2020224]Loki,
Tell them to stfu & toftt.
But I have a question for the group. Is there value in reviews of girls that have been reviewed many times if nothing is different from previous, recent reviews? I'm thinking my post count is low here because I never review the already well reviewed, and thus I'm probably looked at as a new although I think most vets know I've been around awhile.
But I also don't want to be the douche saying the same thing as the guy I'm getting sloppy seconds from either. Clearly a first-world problem.[/QUOTE]Anybody can do a good job once, that doesn't make them a good provider. Several good reviews show a pattern of consistency. The same could be said for negative reviews. I definitely think there's value in any honest review.
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Anybody ever meet a Japanese girl who was straight from China? Lmao![/QUOTE]AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
Classic!
Peace.
PK.
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Anybody ever meet a Japanese girl who was straight from China? Lmao![/QUOTE]Didn't you know that everything is made in China these days!
[QUOTE=Hammer50;2022036]Didn't you know that everything is made in China these days![/QUOTE]FUCK!! Goddamn outsourcing ruining the industry! LOL.
Peace.
PK.
You can Pick your friends...you can pick your nose...BUT! You CAN'T wipe your friends under the couch!
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PK.
I apologize for my limited number of posts: I don't have the combination of free time and hobby capital that some of the more illustrious members have, but I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate their informative and entertaining reports. I'm sure that a number of members live somewhat vicariously through the exploits of the others. I myself, have only seen a handful of providers and have authored a few reviews on the nr site under a different, but similar username. I have a true fondness for massage, asian women and the AMP experience in general, which brings up my topic of conversation: In the past year, there have been numerous raids on various area AMPs: some have survived and reopened (CP, Scotia, Bennington x 2), some have closed for good (Saratoga, GS). Shortly after numerous very explicit reviews were posted on NR, the CP AMP was raided and arrests ensued. Coincidence? The others have been reviewed here and on other sites prior to their being raided as well. AMPs differ from providers, in that (for the most part) they are not individuals using fake names and discrete locations, they are brick and mortar storefront businesses operating in our communities, towns, cities, villages etc. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot when we post detailed reviews of our AMP experiences on the various sites and feeding ammunition to uncle LEO, who we know from the various news reports, is monitoring this site, BP, NR, etc.?? There is no anonymity for reviewing an AMP as opposed to reviewing a provider. I have hesitated to post AMP experiences for this reason. I welcome debate, both pro and con on this topic. Are we helping or hindering the cause? Thoughts?? Thanks.
[QUOTE=GuitarGuy1000;2028959]I apologize for my limited number of posts: I don't have the combination of free time and hobby capital that some of the more illustrious members have, but I thoroughly enjoy and appreciate their informative and entertaining reports. I'm sure that a number of members live somewhat vicariously through the exploits of the others. I myself, have only seen a handful of providers and have authored a few reviews on the nr site under a different, but similar username. I have a true fondness for massage, asian women and the AMP experience in general, which brings up my topic of conversation: In the past year, there have been numerous raids on various area AMPs: some have survived and reopened (CP, Scotia, Bennington x 2), some have closed for good (Saratoga, GS). Shortly after numerous very explicit reviews were posted on NR, the CP AMP was raided and arrests ensued. Coincidence? The others have been reviewed here and on other sites prior to their being raided as well. AMPs differ from providers, in that (for the most part) they are not individuals using fake names and discrete locations, they are brick and mortar storefront businesses operating in our communities, towns, cities, villages etc. Are we shooting ourselves in the foot when we post detailed reviews of our AMP experiences on the various sites and feeding ammunition to uncle LEO, who we know from the various news reports, is monitoring this site, BP, NR, etc.?? There is no anonymity for reviewing an AMP as opposed to reviewing a provider. I have hesitated to post AMP experiences for this reason. I welcome debate, both pro and con on this topic. Are we helping or hindering the cause? Thoughts?? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm woefully ignorant of AMP believing escorts provide more what I'm looking for. In fact I haven't been to a massage parlor since I was stationed in Ft. Carson during the VN war, Koreans everywhere frequently abandoned by army dudes. I think your point is valid and should be adhered to.
[QUOTE=GuitarGuy1000;2028959]? Thoughts?? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. The AMP scene is SO much more simplified when it comes to LEO. No elaborate Ruse need be devised. Little time and money spent on such endeavor ... All they have to do is walk-in and pay for a massage. If she offers CLM without a license it is an automatic misdemeanor, it actually has more teeth than the prostitution charge. Then there is the illegal immigrant issue etc. THAT can be BIG TROUBLE if trafficking is involved. Then of course the prostitute charges.
Talk about low-hanging fruit.
So yeah, I think the details for the AMPs should be abbreviated and much info should be exchanged BCD in that regards. Too bad, but it has always been the elephant in the room.
Peace.
PK.