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So I am new to this whole scene but a massage with a happy ending sounds great. My question is how does it all work? From what I have gathered you arrive and pay the door fee, and if you mention nothing you get a massage and get out. So when should the extras be brought up? With the door fee person or the masseuse? Also will just mentioning sowet work? If someone could answer my questions or a description of how it all works I would highly appreciate it.
Hit up Sunshine Wellness (ad is on Sowet. Com) last week. Rolled in around 6:15 pm. Parked in front of the strip mall, haha I see what Jewell69 means about the woman at the desk of the store next door (some sort of pet store I think). She was locking up just as I got there so I was able to get by without any dirty looks haha.
Anyway, asked for SOWET discount, paid $50 for the hour. Got "Amy" or "Amie", fairly stocky, short hair, mid-30s. Decent looking but not fantastic. TS was somewhat rushed although she made sure to clean the crevices well. Some light tease at this point. Back to the room. 10 minute massage (maybe even less) and then a brief tease and the flip. Asked what I want. Everything. I suggest $120, she says no, $140, I say how about $130, agreed. Paid and she leaves, comes back and slips off the tight exercise clothes she was wearing.
Well she starts off by having me flip back over and now I see why she paid so much attention to cleaning the asscrack in the TS. That tongue! Wow. Never had that before but I think I like it! She seemed open to some LFK but I was a bit nervous about that given what she'd just done with her mouth. Then brief BBBJ and she uses her mouth to put the hat on, followed by fairly standard CG and mish. Spent a lot of my time sucking on her C's. Digits were not allowed. She made a point of helping me put my clothes and socks on which was kind of funny. Overall probably was there 45 min, but that was mostly my fault (popped pretty quick).
Mama came in as I was packing up and asked me to come back soon. They had me wait in the room for a minute while they got another monger into another room so we didn't see each other. This is my second time at a FS AMP and I think I'm getting the hang of it. (Tigre0070. It's easy. At places like this, they're pretty obvious about asking "what do you want". They won't spell it out for you but you'll know when to ask.)
Welcome to our hobby.
AMP Tips And Guidelines
Here are some tips and etiquette for visitors looking for extras in an AMP (Asian Massage Parlor). I'm one who prefers the AMPs to the other mongering options because they seem to provide a safe and relaxing environment. I hope this can help any newbies to AMPs or jog the memory of other AMP experts to dish out some tips of their own.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3b) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
6) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
7) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
8) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
9) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
10) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
11) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing.
12) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
13) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
14) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
15) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
[QUOTE=Tigre0070;1387955]So I am new to this whole scene but a massage with a happy ending sounds great. My question is how does it all work? From what I have gathered you arrive and pay the door fee, and if you mention nothing you get a massage and get out. So when should the extras be brought up? With the door fee person or the masseuse? Also will just mentioning sowet work? If someone could answer my questions or a description of how it all works I would highly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
I'm visiting Denver for a while and want recommendations on good FBSM providers, either independent incall or AMP. I'm not looking for anything beyond good quality therapeutic massage + sensual happy ending. I have often had good luck with more mature independents who have training in massage and know how to give a good LMT style massage but also enjoy making it sensual.
Thanks for any recommendations you can offer.
Dr D
I too will be traveling to Denver in early May. There is an abundance of Chinese spas to be had, all are priced about the same. I've read this excellent board and it appears the majority of Chinese establishments are all legit. Not a problem for me although a sensuous ending is always preferable. The Mayflower and Hong Kong spas are close to where I'll be staying. Anyone willing to PM me with suggestions / information will be appreciated. I live in Maryland and will gladly pass on any intel that is requested. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Nats53;1428217]I too will be traveling to Denver in early May. There is an abundance of Chinese spas to be had, all are priced about the same. I've read this excellent board and it appears the majority of Chinese establishments are all legit. Not a problem for me although a sensuous ending is always preferable. The Mayflower and Hong Kong spas are close to where I'll be staying. Anyone willing to PM me with suggestions / information will be appreciated. I live in Maryland and will gladly pass on any intel that is requested. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I am recommending Poinsetta SPa ONLY because it is super close to the other AMP you have written about. My only attempt with Hong Kong was a super gooooood goodie skinny, white hot pants-short shorts; super good looking in the face, approx 32 years old. She was a good sport about things, but it was self service if you're into that. With this particular girl, there was no shame with self service. Don't know anything about Mayflower.
Try Poinsetta Spa. Not exactly super young, but good bodies in there. Only been there once. It's one of those places where the gal gets you hot and bothered, and negotiates a tip that you need to pay in advance. Truth be told, I've only been there once; I went there a 2nd time, and I didn't like the looks of the next gal; she tried to call the owner / main chick, but the gal onsite didn't have command of English, and we couldn't communicate, so I just left. However, the only time I got a massage there, it was goooooood.
If you can get out to Lakewood, try the new place at approx 1922 Kipling. AVOID THE SPA AT 2300 (approx) Kipling. In the duplex office building dentist / Massage tenants.
Also, if you want a guarantee, buy a toaster! No, seriously, for a guaranteed good time, try ABC at (approx) 1300 Wadsworth. Try for May. Short, spinner type. Good little body.
I am comming the first week of may and I am looking for a place or provider that is really close to the down town area as I am staying near 16th street mall and will rely on taxi service or bus to get around as company will not pay for car. If you know of any one or any place close by please I'm me
Last week I made an appointment with Apple advertising in the theraputic BP section, $45 / hr. The incall is a MP off of Evans and Jasmine, not sure why she advertises separately. She is not really a looker but speaks very fluent english. Anyway, pretty good massage and I kept going back and forth on whether it was legit or not. There wasn't really any teasing but there wasn't any shyness in regard to draping requirements either. There was no touching or topless available but at the end she asked me if there was anything more she should work on, and I left happy. She told me $45 for the hour and looked shocked when I handed her $75."You gave me too much!" I told her it was her tip, well worth it.
[url]http://denver.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sunday-is-a-good-day-to-relax-and-slow-down-try-me/8868926[/url]
Totally flaked / no show. I texted her and asked if she was available, set an appointment for 3 hours later. When I was in the neighborhood she gave me an intersection. I got there 5 min later and never heard back. Tried calling and texting several times, no luck. Pretty much wasted my whole day because I couldn't make other arrangements. She took down the ad otherwise I would post a link, beware any incall at Park Hill.
Went to Poinsettia Spa around 7 on Thursday. I've been here a couple of times before, and I always had a decent time. First time was a jack shack, but once the girls get to know you, they treat you good and give a good massage and sweet happy ending. I opted for the hour massage (.40) , and got a good hard massage from Lori. I went there to see Anna but she was busy with another client.
Lori gave a really hot erotic massage- she has a skinny, tight body. The girls usually let me touch them all over, but YMMV. She flirted the whole time and massaged my ass and privates real good. She knew me from before, so she cut the runaround out, and just skipped to what I wanted (which was her hands on my.) and played along real well. I tried to negotiate a BJ or FS, but she said she didn't do either- so we went for a really nice, hard, warm handjob and came in her hands. For a Chinese massage parlor, I felt I got my money's worth (.50 for extras) , but want to try a MP where I can get the FULL extras, perhaps a Korean one?
After reading glowing reports on SOWET, I stopped by PT. According to one of the reviews, BeBe looks like Lucy Liu. Man, was he off the mark. Must had one too many in my opinion. BeBe looks ok but she is no LL. Anyway. The place is no match to the Philly or NYC joints and she tried to up sell me to $190 total. Way too much IMHO. I talked her down a bit but I think it was still way too much for what I recieved. Not going back. Rather spenf it on the east coast.
[QUOTE=Trav;1485074]After reading glowing reports on SOWET, I stopped by PT. According to one of the reviews, BeBe looks like Lucy Liu. Man, was he off the mark. Must had one too many in my opinion. BeBe looks ok but she is no LL. Anyway. The place is no match to the Philly or NYC joints and she tried to up sell me to $190 total. Way too much IMHO. I talked her down a bit but I think it was still way too much for what I recieved. Not going back. Rather spenf it on the east coast.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that it didn't go well for you. I've been to PineTree, and several others, a few times and have always had an excellent experience. I haven't seen BeBe, so I can't comment on her. Not sure what service you got, but if you went for the 1-hr session, then you cheaped out. Total should be $200, which is a bargain IMHO.
If that is the going rate in Denver, then that is what everyone have to pay. For me, I am taking my $$$ back East.
[QUOTE=Trav;1486433]If that is the going rate in Denver, then that is what everyone have to pay. For me, I am taking my $$$ back East.[/QUOTE]I'd love to pay less, but the going rate is the going rate. This is for Korean spas. I don't know about the Chinese spas, but I hear they are less and the service isn't nearly as good.
BTW, I went to PineTree tonight and had a session with BeBe. I thought it was spectacular and that she is gorgeous. I do agree that she looks nothing like Lucy Lui. Much better, IMHO. To each his own.