Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=Cleanman]One risk of Mongering is LE stings and raids.

With recent LE raids of Nirvana and Lavender how dose a Monger stay safe from being arrested by LE along with everyone else in one of these raids? (Like say your "just looking"...)

Also if you are arrested, can you bail your self out of jail or do you need to call your best friend or SO to go down to the Beretania Police Station to bail you out? How much cash should you carry as emergency money?

Anyone know the routine if you do get taken in?

Just wondering.[/QUOTE]If LE raids an AMP while you are there and you do not have any outstanding warrants or have any illegal items on you (drugs, guns etc.), LE will most likely let you go after determining your ID and asking you some questions. Be polite and respectful to the officers.

If you are arrested for Prostitution in an LE Sting Operation (undercover SW or Escort/Craigslist ad), expect the Bail amount to be at least $500. It could be more depending on the circumstance such as you have a previous arrest/conviction for Prostitution. If you do not have the required bail amount on you, and you are unable or unwilling to call someone to post your bail (Cash Only), the police will hold you in custody until you can be taken to court. At court, the judge will decide weather to release you or hold you in custody until your next court date. If the judge decides to hold you in custody, you still can post bail to get released. Keep in mind that if you get arrested on a Friday night and cannot post bail, there is no court until Monday (Tuesday if Monday is a State Holiday), and you will be sitting in the HPD Cellblock all that time.

If at court the judge decides to hold you in custody, you will be taken to OCCC (Oahu Community Correctional Center). PRISON!

[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]Does anyone know if they log open a file on you they run your ID? Or, do they just run the check and not track anything further?

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They don't track you unless they have a valid reason to. Merely being present when they raid an AMP is not a vaild reason. HPD runs literally hundreds of warrant checks, NCIC checks, license plate checks, etc., per day. They'd need humongous computer resources to track every person or car they run a search on.

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If you are arrested for Prostitution in an LE Sting Operation (undercover SW or Escort/Craigslist ad), expect the Bail amount to be at least $500. It could be more depending on the circumstance such as you have a previous arrest/conviction for Prostitution. [/QUOTE]
Additionally, if the alleged offense occurred on a street within a designated "weed and seed" area, the cash bail will be raised to $1000. (For anyone interested in the boundaries of the Downtown and Palama "weed and seed" areas, about two months ago I posted maps of those two areas in the "Downtown" thread.)

[QUOTE=Candy Addict]They don't track you unless they have a valid reason to. Merely being present when they raid an AMP is not a vaild reason. HPD runs literally hundreds of warrant checks, NCIC checks, license plate checks, etc., per day. They'd need humongous computer resources to track every person or car they run a search on.[/QUOTE]Don't kid yourself. When they write up a report on a raid they probably list everything and everybody that they encountered while there. They have to keep detailed records in case something happens or liability issues. I'm sure there is a number cruncher somewhere that has a spreadsheet of customers that they encounter at AMPs (and probably also a list of people they stopped downtown during their sting operations. Such as a traffic stop). So if a person got stopped more than once they probably know that so and so was there for mongering. During their sting operations they probably take down license plate numbers of suspected johns cruising downtown so are aware that you are a possible john when you drive by.

While they run many checks every day throughout honolulu they probably have a separate book for their sting and AMP operations. That's only because the people running the operation aren't your usual everyday LE.

[QUOTE=Kapalua]Additionally, if the alleged offense occurred on a street within a designated "weed and seed" area, the cash bail will be raised to $1000. (For anyone interested in the boundaries of the Downtown and Palama "weed and seed" areas, about two months ago I posted maps of those two areas in the "Downtown" thread.)[/QUOTE]Another aspect of being arrested for Prostitution or any criminal offense in a WEED&SEED area is that the judge has the OPTION of imposing a Geographic Restriction on you, meaning that you are ordered to stay out of the WEED&SEED area. If this is imposed on you, HPD has the authority to arrest you for violating the judges order if you are found in the area. Even if you are not doing anything illegal, they can arrest you for violating the Geographic Restriction.

Just wanted to say thanks to both of you for the informative posts. I must admit I am getting pretty educated as well as entertained by them. I've always heard that experience is the best teacher, as long as its someone else's.

BTW, kap congrats on the 1000+ posts.

Jay

One of the local Girls, at Lavender told me after I asked to be washed standing up instead of lying down, that the MS' clean the TS table with some "korean" natural type of cleaner when it's slow, and added not that offten. She told me I was not the first customer to ask not to lay on the table to be washed.

[QUOTE=Cleanman]One of the local Girls, at Lavender told me after I asked to be washed standing up instead of lying down, that the MS' clean the TS table with some "korean" natural type of cleaner when it's slow, and added not that offten. She told me I was not the first customer to ask not to lay on the table to be washed.[/QUOTE]

Yikes!
That is just disgusting. I actually do opt to take TS whenever I'm there. Now I know to do it standing up from here on.
Thanks, brother.

What's funny is that many of the mongers on this HI site will now start requesting standing showers. The providers that read the forums will now know "eh...you read the forums ah."

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I still remember this comment from one of these forums a while back:

Q: "How often do they change the sheets"

A: "Whenever they need new curtains"

Gherkin



[QUOTE=Tyrone Biggins]Yikes!
That is just disgusting. I actually do opt to take TS whenever I'm there. Now I know to do it standing up from here on.
Thanks, brother.[/QUOTE]

That's very funny, LOL, but true. Hey I love a good TS, as she plays with your down there with soap (just like I do at home), but the thought of what might be lying there with your boys takes the fun out of it.

However a good provider will make the best of a standing bath and stroke you clean and then reach under you from the front and clean the back room, ohooo..like Million does very nicely.

[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]What's funny is that many of the mongers on this HI site will now start requesting standing showers. The providers that read the forums will now know "eh...you read the forums ah."

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[QUOTE=Cleanman]That's very funny, LOL, but true. Hey I love a good TS, as she plays with your down there with soap (just like I do at home), but the thought of what might be lying there with your boys takes the fun out of it.

However a good provider will make the best of a standing bath and stroke you clean and then reach under you from the front and clean the back room, ohooo..like Million does very nicely.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone ever taken a blacklight to the room? After that, it will probably be standing TS, and fcuking in the standing position only.

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[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]Has anyone ever taken a blacklight to the room? After that, it will probably be standing TS, and fcuking in the standing position only.

sm[/QUOTE]Now that is just funny.

Yup I think your totally right. and bring your own plastic bag to put your clothes in til your done. Don't go drunk you might not be able to dress. LOL. What you said was classic.

Had to laugh out loud, Thank you for the laugh, funny SM!

[QUOTE=Strong Mojo]Has anyone ever taken a blacklight to the room? After that, it will probably be standing TS, and fcuking in the standing position only.

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Was wondering.

Is there some question(s) you can ask a provider or pimp durring the scheduling phase or meeting phase that if they were LE ,they would have to tell you they are or can they just lie to you? Is there a time tested question?

I can see just flat out asking if youre LE to them, but can they lie back.

I read where one member asked the provider to meet him in the lobby and take a drive around the block to prove not LE.