EMP (European Massage Parlor) Reports

Let me get this straight. You are talking about highly attractive fit young women and you are surprised that they seek out successful men? Where in the world is this not true? This is not a Euro thing. This is a vagina thing. You think the Asians are different? It only feels that way because they barely speak English. You don't think these girls have been to Hong Kong and seen wealth before? Remember that next time Shanghai Suzy has her mitt on your shorty, shaking a 60 dollar tip out of it, when you could have sworn last time it was 40.

I think we might be talking about their actions and behavior and how long they have been here vs a particular culture. I do believe European women tend to be more assertive. Which can come off as off-putting, of course. But I think it is because they have been here longer, and usually speak English. Even among Asian women, we see Koreans and Japanese as more assertive than Chinese. But, if you take a Chinese lady just off the boat, she will obviously be more "submissive". Can't speak the language. No car or mobility, driver takes them back and forth from work to a home with a dozen women living together. And most likely undocumented. Of course she is going to "do what it takes" to get by. I've had girls tell me they do it because "its my job". They are also looking for husbands, so they are in it for the long game. By contrast, I also know a Chinese MT who worked 3 years in New York before coming here. Guess what, her personality is much different. More assertive. Than most of the "mid-western" Chinese girls I've met. This girl also wants a husband. She told me so.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2204051]Let me get this straight. You are talking about highly attractive fit young women and you are surprised that they seek out successful men? Where in the world is this not true? This is not a Euro thing. This is a vagina thing. You think the Asians are different? It only feels that way because they barely speak English. You don't think these girls have been to Hong Kong and seen wealth before? Remember that next time Shanghai Suzy has her mitt on your shorty, shaking a 60 dollar tip out of it, when you could have sworn last time it was 40.[/QUOTE]

The Asians at the mercy of handlers are usually shipped around to various states, to either keep immigration of their tail, or to leave the women unable to find other work. Since many of the Europeans seem to assimilate quickly into the traditional "white" brackets of society, they also tend to stick around longer. I know a few Euro girls that have worked in this scene for over a decade. Every time I find an Asian I really enjoy being with, I find that she's been moved to another AMP and is now completely beyond my scope for travel.

What BottleRocket said. Yes, many of these women want money and are looking for potential husbands, boyfriends or sugar daddies. It's not just an Eastern European thing, and its not just a female thing. It's a freaking human thing, and if you haven't figured that out yet, then I've got to feel sorry for you. Ever hired a contractor? Did he fix things up out of the goodness of his heart, or did he do it because you paid him? Women who provide these services are doing just that; they are providing services. It's a business transaction. You might establish a rapport with them as a repeat customer, but having money or good looks will go a lot further. That's just a fact of life.

I also think part of the problem is that many Americans have a stereotype of East Asian, and especially Chinese, women as being submissive and obedient. That's definitely not the case, but its ingrained in American media. As night Owl said, its more that so too many of these women are fresh off the boat, don't speak much English, and unfortunately sometimes are being exploited by their handlers. And yes, I know it may seem contradictory to take a moral stand against that, but I find any form of slavery to be reprehensible. I have no problem with sex for money if its between consenting adults. Hell, I know when the masseuses are taking advantage of me, but if I want to overpay for an HJ, that's my problem.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2205247]The Asians at the mercy of handlers are usually shipped around to various states, to either keep immigration of their tail, or to leave the women unable to find other work. Since many of the Europeans seem to assimilate quickly into the traditional "white" brackets of society, they also tend to stick around longer. I know a few Euro girls that have worked in this scene for over a decade. Every time I find an Asian I really enjoy being with, I find that she's been moved to another AMP and is now completely beyond my scope for travel.[/QUOTE]

To stay in touch I have been pushing WeChat (sort of a Chat, that also translates, into various languages including Chinese, Russian Polish, Hebrew, Vietnamese, Arabic, etc). Have a dozen or so WeChat friends, and followed them in their travels to Ohio, LA, SF, KC, China, Russia, Atlanta. Sometimes they disappear for a few months, but they seem to come back. Even had "Chat-sex" with one. She came back to Chicago just to re-enact the session. They seem to fall into a couple groups. Those with papers and those without. The ones with papers do fine. A couple drive nicer cars than I do! One of my Euros friends drives a Lexus. Another is buying a house. She was asking all about real estate taxes. And several are saving money to start their own spas. Based on the cars they drive, it would probably be a good investment, but I can't say my wife would think so!

Chinese lady today. And she outlined exactly how much blacks, mexicans, woman and "white guys" tip for regular and happy massages. She says, I love you. You are an old white guy. Which, of course I am. I tip the best and am not so likely to f*ck their brains out, like you young guys do. I am PRIME MEAT! And all along I thought it was my charm! Just business. That's the point.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;2204051]Let me get this straight. You are talking about highly attractive fit young women and you are surprised that they seek out successful men? Where in the world is this not true? This is not a Euro thing. This is a vagina thing. You think the Asians are different? It only feels that way because they barely speak English. You don't think these girls have been to Hong Kong and seen wealth before? Remember that next time Shanghai Suzy has her mitt on your shorty, shaking a 60 dollar tip out of it, when you could have sworn last time it was 40.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;2209644]Chinese lady today. And she outlined exactly how much blacks, mexicans, woman and "white guys" tip for regular and happy massages. She says, I love you. You are an old white guy. Which, of course I am. I tip the best and am not so likely to f*ck their brains out, like you young guys do. I am PRIME MEAT! And all along I thought it was my charm! Just business. That's the point.[/QUOTE]I don't understand it. It's hard to get an appointment when your black and some of the ones that do make the appointment will not open the door when they see me. I'm a 48 year old man not a 20 yr old kid with my pants under my ass hanging on the corner. I even have trouble at the APMs because they think I'm LEO.

I imagine we all would learn something if we walked a mile in your shoes. What is this world coming to when Chinese hookers discriminate? I don't have any useful suggestions, except, just like everybody else, try to develop regular providers, get to know mamasans and referral sources.

[QUOTE=Boone50;2209703]I don't understand it. It's hard to get an appointment when your black and some of the ones that do make the appointment will not open the door when they see me. I'm a 48 year old man not a 20 yr old kid with my pants under my ass hanging on the corner. I even have trouble at the APMs because they think I'm LEO.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I've popped in and out of there for years. Always hot young talent dressed to play the game. I've never had the balls to pursue but have heard rumors from regular clientele that a full menu is offered. Please pm me if you have more on this.

[QUOTE=JimmyBLong;2197215]A little off the category but falling into the euro eye candy category. Charlotte's Bar on Lawrence and Austin has some smoking hot euro bartenders who dress to kill in form fitting dresses. I'm sure there are others that we can add to a list here. Probably will never lead to anything more than good spanking material for later.[/QUOTE]

Also slightly off-topic, but still relevant. I checked out the website seeking arrangement. There are some stunning Euro women on there, looking for financial compensation you might say. I even recognized one from a local EMP, located near O' Hare. While the membership is expensive, and YMMV, it's still nice to have a legit place to audition potential masseuse talent.

Anyone remember the New City and Chicagoreader ads? Those were some great times when you could have found a full service euro provider in every town. Now nothing.

[QUOTE=ElginMonk;2212930]Anyone remember the New City and Chicagoreader ads? Those were some great times when you could have found a full service euro provider in every town. Now nothing.[/QUOTE]Elginmonk, I remember those days well. The Reader when it was in Newspaper Form was the only place I looked for a Provider. First there was the Massage Listings. Then later on they added an Adult Services Listing. Found alot of Great Providers on the Reader. Back in those days before the Net you just took your chances and hoped everything went well.

[QUOTE=RonM;2212964]Elginmonk, I remember those days well. The Reader when it was in Newspaper Form was the only place I looked for a Provider. First there was the Massage Listings. Then later on they added an Adult Services Listing. Found alot of Great Providers on the Reader. Back in those days before the Net you just took your chances and hoped everything went well.[/QUOTE]Yeah, reminiscing here I see. You are correct, you just took your chances and mostly always, other than poor service things DID go well. Today everything, including scams and Uncle, are way too high tech. Just look at all those BS ads on CL for example. What a huge waste of time. I do have to send props to ElginMonk though, he seems to weed out the good ones from that site. Keep up the good work guys.

G2.

[QUOTE=SeanDoe99;2211003]I agree. I've popped in and out of there for years. Always hot young talent dressed to play the game. I've never had the balls to pursue but have heard rumors from regular clientele that a full menu is offered. Please pm me if you have more on this.[/QUOTE]I have been there for over 2 years, but if I remember correctly.

This place attracts all the riff raff, and can be a bit unwelcoming if you are not blue collor.

I don't think there are many guys with 70 G cars walking into this place.

Times may have changed.

Not really an EMP but a solid Euro. I visited her several times recently and is a solid bang for your buck. A little older but an overall great experience for. 5.

ElginMonk. You are my hero! LOL.