R Consultant: possible Tampa info for you (swinging & nudism)
Even though Paadise Lakes (in the Tampa area) is a non-sexual nudist camp (many "wholesome family nudists" HATE swingers), rumor has it that many swingers hang out there anyway.
But I've never been there, only to various sexual & non-sexual nudist camps in the Midwest. Last time was at Sun Aura (or whatever they call themseleves these days, they used to be Naked City years ago) in Roselawn, Indiana, by myself. Except for a few people who were nice, I was mainly treated rudely like a second class citizen just for being a single male (this after I paid to get in). Actually found the place rather childish and high school-ish. The so-called "highlight" of the camp was a place where (not particularly hot) women dance nude in the middle of a circle of chairs (which single men are NOT allowed to sit in!). Big deal! The guy presiding over this silly ceremony said I could sit for a few minutes, then threw me out!
Once I was at a non-sexual nudist camp and a couple mentioned to an older member that they had recently been to a swing club. This older member read them the Riot Act about how "this is not a swing club" and "swinging is about conquest" while non-sexual nudism is about "relaxation" (relaxation of the non-sexual kind of course!).
Older people at non-sexual nudist camps can be hostile towards single men, but for different reasons than the rudeness at sex camps. Some conservative nudists automatically assume that single men are going to misbehave, while all couples are above criticism. But I have seen couples misbehave at non-sexual camps. One couple at a non-sexual camp was sneaking in other people through a back gate who hadn't paid to get in!
Let's Wake this Subject up a little
I operate a Swingers Party/Event/Convention Service. I do about 15 of these a year in many places including Vegas. Every thing from a small meet and greet to a huge 4 day party with hundreds of people filling a hotel. It is all about meeting like minded people and having fun!
Single guys are welcome and all the couples who attend know that we welcome single guys. But not all couples are looking for guys. But most are at some point.
Sorry this sounds more like an ad, than a report. I hope to advertise here on USASexGuide someday. But I am open to any questions about swingers.
Google JPJustParties to find my web site with a list of events that are planned.
Swinger info in Northern Virginia
I was just checking out this forum, and see that the posts are from all over, I can speak for only two places, one was Lover's Lane in Orlando, a great place, but very commercial. The other place was a place in Northern Va, just a hot couple hosting from home once a month. I think their website is novaswingerfun.com. Single guy friendly, (the only ones who pay a fee though) and lots of available women. Hope this helps the guys in my area.
Swinger Party Report VA/DC area
I got the dates for the October swinger party...there is one in the daytime, mostly gangbang style, at noon, on the 23rd, and a couples only at 8pm one on Saturday night the 24th in Herndon/Dulles area...They do let in a few single guys at the "couples only" one, but get with me on info for that.
Some thoughts on swinging
[QUOTE=Northsideman]Last time was at Sun Aura (or whatever they call themseleves these days, they used to be Naked City years ago) in Roselawn, Indiana, by myself. Except for a few people who were nice, I was mainly treated rudely like a second class citizen just for being a single male (this after I paid to get in).[/quote]My wife and I have been to Sun Aura quite a few times and we've never experienced what you describe. Our experience has been that everybody is more than friendly. Yes, there are a lot of single guys who go there and for the most part they're well-mannered and friendly. If that's the case, they're not a threat or a problem. Guys who are pushy and/or have an attitude tend to get treated like you describe. Not saying you were that way, I'm just sayin'.......
[QUOTE=Northsideman]Actually found the place rather childish and high school-ish. The so-called "highlight" of the camp was a place where (not particularly hot) women dance nude in the middle of a circle of chairs (which single men are NOT allowed to sit in!). Big deal! The guy presiding over this silly ceremony said I could sit for a few minutes, then threw me out![/quote]
Can't imagine what sort of "highlight" that was. We've never seen that particular event there. There are lots of different groups of people doing their own thing, however. Friends, and friends of friends tend to stay within their own enclaves, doing whatever might be fun to them; relaxing, talking, cooking out, playing games, or whatever, all in various states of undress.
I used to do my share of mongering and adult theater visiting when I was younger. I'd guess my mindset was pretty much like the vast majority of guys who are out trolling for pussy: find some, bust a nut, then leave. Reflecting back on those experiences I've found it rather amazing how fast my horniness level would change. I'd go from frantic horny just before stuffing it in, to heading for the door and wondering how the Monday Night Football game turned out, all in a matter of seconds, pre- and post orgasm.
A vital part of the swinging lifestyle is the social side of it. When my wife and I started "playing" we never figured the social side would be as much fun as it is. When you run into more-or-less compatible people, much of the "fun factor" comes from the extensive talking, partying and generally having fun that goes on [u]before[/u] any screwing starts. Most single guys aren't into that mindset, nor are they willing to invest the time it takes to become friends with a couple, get comfortable, and maybe eventually start sampling some of the wife's pleasures; they'd just as soon bust a nut and leave. Couples know this, of course, plus many swingers only play with other couples. Sure, there are couples around who actively seek out single guys, but they tend to be a minority. There are one zillion guys out there looking for a hookup for every woman or couple who might be, so they can afford to be quite picky. Chances are you don't have the one cock that she's been looking for, so you have to sell yourself with your people skills.
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Once I was at a non-sexual nudist camp and a couple mentioned to an older member that they had recently been to a swing club. This older member read them the Riot Act about how "this is not a swing club" and "swinging is about conquest" while non-sexual nudism is about "relaxation" (relaxation of the non-sexual kind of course!).
Older people at non-sexual nudist camps can be hostile towards single men, but for different reasons than the rudeness at sex camps. Some conservative nudists automatically assume that single men are going to misbehave, while all couples are above criticism. But I have seen couples misbehave at non-sexual camps. One couple at a non-sexual camp was sneaking in other people through a back gate who hadn't paid to get in![/QUOTE]There are as many different flavors and outlooks on nudism, swinging, polyamory, or whatever as there are people engaged in it, which is the prime reason it's difficult to run into folks in the lifestyle you click with well. When we first started playing we didn't expect this, but it's true.
And, some discrete playing goes on even at non-sexual nudist camps. You can't get a bunch of adult naked people together and expect [u]no[/u] fucking to go on. It's just not overt. Also, be careful in those places. Typically, you [u]have[/u] to be nude, kids and all, and they're prime pedophile magnets.
The much-dreaded single male
As a male I have only had 3 swinging experiences. When I lived in Colorado my then girlfriend and I had a drunken foursome with a couple she knew. We wound up trying it twice more before I had to move to MD. It was my first group sex experience and now I want to try it again. Now as a single male, I would like to try this again, but I know it can be difficult with the large number of us. I wouldn't want to be labeled as one of those pushy males or some guy who just brings a woman with him as a pass to get into certain events. And when you are casually dating someone, it's kinda hard to segway swinging into a conversation. Anyone know of any male friendly clubs / events that happen in the DC / MD area, or places to meet like minded females?
The Bordello Room For Over 50
We will be opening a pvt. Swing club for over 50 in a month in the Dayton, Ohio area. It seems a lot of clubs do not want the mature crowd. This will be for couples and singles. Check out the Dayton Backpage under bodyrubs. If your over 50 come have fun soon.