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[QUOTE=JustJenna; 1559121]Do NOT take this advice.

Never a good idea to make a provider feel uncomfortable, the situation would have ended much worse had Pinoboy actually stopped the girl. NTM, some of these girls are extremely street saavy, you may get way more than you bargain for. It would suck and you'd probably never admit it here that you got your ass whooped by a female. Lmao.

I think I saw someone post before, cut your losses. Get the hell out of there. Let the review boards know ASAP! Including the other sites.[/QUOTE]I agree with parts of what everyone is saying. Here is my perspective. I always ask the provider to turn her ringer off and leave the phone on the night stand. She isn't going to be ever be heading to the bathroom with her phone or my money until I'm dressed and ready to leave. I'm also not going to let her open the door. I will open the door and go out on my own terms if someone is knocking. Never hold back or restrain a provider. Not only does that lack class (never touch a woman against her will) , but it also sets you up for a false imprisonment charge. If someone gets the "drop" on me, I will forfeit the money I have already given, but I would never take them to an ATM. The reason I would forfeit the money is because the last thing I would want is to start a fight and have the police called. I just want to get away (plus the lost cash is my self-penalty for being stupid). Now if someone pulls a gun, they have made a major mistake. I will still let them have the money and I will leave, but I will then make sure I follow-up with them at a later time (perhaps even 10 minutes later) to re-enforce with them that they f#ked with the wrong guy. That is just a matter of principle. I haven't had anybody try to rip me off in many years, so either I'm getting wiser or the scammers are just feeling sorry for an old man. I've had guns pulled on me several time many years ago and in each case the idiot ended up kissing my boots before I kicked in his face and I guarantee those bastards still remember me every time they look in the mirror. It's a matter of honor and in this hobby, the strong survive and the weak are cut to pieces. I work very hard to keep my self-defense skills sharp, because my life might depend on them. I don't like guns being pulled. They are so un-necessary and people who pull guns need to be punished severely.

Read the Forum. Scout the area. Watch for things out of place. It's amazing when you arrive 15 minutes early, what you will observe. Sometimes it's the pimp (I refuse to say manager) leaving the room after you call to let them know you are close. Sometimes it's a couple guys sitting in a car in the parking lot or sitting by the pool at a hotel. The pimps are easy to spot. Think with the big head. If you sense trouble, get out of Dodge. Your instincts are correct more often than not and most fatal errors are caused by us ignoring our instincts. Stick with well-reviewed ladies and recommendations from trusted mongers.

WOF

[QUOTE=Furrber;1558925]Lock the door once your in the room. Once service starts. It doesn't end. If there is a knock on the door. Go don't answer that and run up to the door. If she insist. Put your hand on the back of the door. Carefully, position your other hand between her neck and shoulder blades. She will say go away I'm busy and service will continue.[/QUOTE]A while back maybe 2 or 3 months ago there was this light skin girl on BP forget her handle that was traveling from Cali. Went to the spot on Sandlake and Universal Blvd. 2 Call System and I walked up to the 3rd floor where I see another guy lingering around. I was mindful of it and continued on thru. She patted me down in the beginning and said she was scared because of a weird monger that threatened her earlier. I checked the bathroom and closet. We discussed payment and after dropping my clothes and went for some CBJ I hear a knock on the door. I jumped up and grabbed her while I went to the door. I told her not to open it while I put on my clothes and shoes. I stood behind the door while she opened it and I guess she gave him the sign that I wasnt the one. I asked her who it was and she stated "nobody". Continued w / the session and after I left noticed he was still hanging around. My quick thinking got me out of a robbery with my pants down. I check the rooms when I enter, lock the door and won't ever let a chick answer the door by herself!

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Anybody dream with her? Whats the menu? I actually don't mind if there is no extra menu, these 16 hour work days are killing me LOL

[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy; 1560151][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pamper-yourself-99/6230494[/url]

Anybody dream with her? Whats the menu? I actually don't mind if there is no extra menu, these 16 hour work days are killing me LOL[/QUOTE]Why risk it when you can see joanluv?

Is this the same house that little Isabella works out of?

[QUOTE=Pinoboy; 1558207][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hottie-with-a-body-come-and-have-some-hot-fun-with-this-bombshell-20/7135076[/url]

Met with this one tonight after texting a few times and agreeing on a. 60 donation. Drove to a house off Dahlia Drive off semoran between colonial and the 408. Not the girl in the pictures and she's fat (pregnant) and has sores all over her face. Not sure if there on the rest of her body also because she was covered up pretty good. Initially inquired about DATY via text and she agreed. Upon seeing her in person though, there was no way in hell I would go down on that! I wanted to just walk out and forget I ever contacted this one, but I suggested a BJ instead and handed over the donation and she said she was going to go and get a condom "just in case I wasn't clean" she said. Right after she disappeared to another room in walks some punk kid with no shirt on (mine was off to at this point) and puts on this act like who the fuck am I and what am I doing there. When I mentioned the girl, he played stupid like he didn't know who I was talking about. When I asked who else was there he said three other guys were in another room, which I'm pretty sure was bullshit and just a scare tactic because I know I could've easily taken his ass out if it was just him for sure. He continued with the dumb act asking how I got in and that he was the only one living there other than the girl he said just dropped him off. Threatened to call the cops and I told him to go ahead as I wasn't sticking around anyway. I figured it was in my best interests to cut my losses and showed myself out the door minus my 60 bucks. Sent numerous texts afterwards to get some things across. Pretty stupid to be pulling this kind of shit out of your residence if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

Too bad aboout what happened and no one knows exactly how they will react and when or if you get an opportunity to react. I have a couple of quick questions. Pino, what if when you are in the parking lot with the two guys, you just all of a sudden start running toward the lobby / front desk? It sounds like you are in good shape. Even if they have guns, I can't see anyone starting a shootout in a hotel lot for $100. They probably would not hit a moving target anyway, it is very difficult to do. Second question, you said you were in a gas station ATM. What if when you get out of the car you walk to the fornt door and just tell the guys."that's it we are done, you are going to have to whip my ass or shoot me right here in front off all these people, the clerks, and all these cameras". Any chance to have taken either of the above actions?

[QUOTE=Pinoboy; 1558614]This was actually the 2nd unexpected scenario that has happened to me as of late on the eastside. The other one happened a few weeks ago at a hotel off of university and alafaya. Met with a latina chick who agreed on a specific fetish for. 50 which she performed, although I must say I wasn't really into it due to some personal hygiene issues with her. She was hot though! Figured I'd play with her ass a little and slip a finger inside of it instead. Didn't take her long to say she had to use the bathroom and as soon as she disappeared a knock comes from the door and she emerges to let some guy in. Before she opens the door she tells me to get dressed. At this point I'm sitting on the bed half naked and the guy start s asking me what services and for what amount was agreed on. Obviously when the girl went to the bathroom she either texted or called her "management" to intervene. Shortly after, another dude who's fairly large and fat walks in and stands by the door. First guy tells me I owe another 100 for the "extra" that I took upon myself to engage in. Told him fine, but that I would have to go to an ATM as I didn't bring that much with me. Thats when he instructs the other guy to accompany me on the ride and tells me to leave my phone there. I asked him why I should leave my phone there since the other guy was going with me anyway. So I kept my phone on me.

Once in the hallway with the other guy, he starts telling me that I look like a smart guy and not to try anything stupid. I was calm and composed the whole time, but also realized that there was potential for things to go real bad in a situation like this so I just went along with the whole thing. Once in the parking lot, he calls another guy by the door and tells him to come along as well. So there I am driving with these two to the nearest gas station. Funny thing is that during the ride there and back he was actually pleasant in his demeanor if I dare say, telling me how its just business and offering to "hook me up" on future visits. Yeah right! Once back at the hotel, the first guy who initially walked into the room and the girl were in the parking lot. Both guys in my truck get out and the first guy gets in. Sort of gives me the same spiel as the other guy in the same civilized manner and asks me if I was in the military. I tell him no and he asks me if I work out? I'm guessing the combination of my short hair and fit physique prompted him to ask me an otherwise odd question.

Driving home I was telling myself how I really need to get out of this hobby, but not surprisingly I have failed in that regards. Interestingly enough, halfway home I get a text from the girl apologizing for what took place, with her promising that a similar occurence would not happen on any future visit. No thanks though! Won't be back to see that one thats for sure.[/QUOTE]

Sorry about the bad eastside experience Pino.

Re: Ferrah Snow. I noticed once of her recent ads, her pics were used from her personal facebook page! Not very restricted FB page either; her regular pics are not better looking than her BP ads. Either her and / or her handlers are real live rocket scientists, apparently.

P. S. I completely forgot what her real name is guys, so please don't PM me asking about it.

[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy; 1560151][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pamper-yourself-99/6230494[/url]

Anybody dream with her? Whats the menu? I actually don't mind if there is no extra menu, these 16 hour work days are killing me LOL[/QUOTE]Go somewhere else for a strong massage. I don't believe the pictures are actually her. She is ok looking, but not as nice as the pictures. There are a number of reports on the forum. Her place is a bit dirty. Last time I was there the towels on her table were not changed from the prior customer. She uses baby oil and there was still oil on the towels. She is somewhat discreet, but there is a menu. Room is on the ground floor of her townhome. OK experience. I don't believe she is really Brazilian. I know some common slang that she did not understand at all. Mid weight latina, yeah ok. Hot Brazilian. I think not. OK, but better choices available.

[QUOTE=BackJack;1554703]A Monger Refuge.[/QUOTE]I've been trying to contact her through the email on the ad but it doesn't seem to work. Also tried replying on BP to no avail. Is there another way to get to her, maybe it's me. Thanks, RJ.

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[QUOTE=RJ081; 1560380]I've been trying to contact her through the email on the ad but it doesn't seem to work. Also tried replying on BP to no avail. Is there another way to get to her, maybe it's me. Thanks, RJ.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-to-backpage-looking-to-add-to-my-full-time-career-with-a-little-bit-of-a-fun-career-44/7114361[/url][/QUOTE]Try contacting Big Tommy via Private Message, the member who first posted about her.

[QUOTE=PghPlowboy;1560504]Try contacting Big Tommy via Private Message, the member who first posted about her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion.

RJ

Thanks for the suggestion PghPlowboy. Trying to get to know the nuances of the forum.

RJ

[QUOTE=Lurker 2009; 1559618]I read your two negative reports. Thats one of the risks we take, I think it happens to all of us, even seasoned veterans of mongering. Because these girls are conning the john, they are good at deceiving you to feel relaxed and not suspect anything.

What perplexes me is that you got ripped off by two girls who were posting together, and using the same phone number. How does that happen?[/QUOTE]Which two girls are you referring to? I have never seen the Ferrah girl, I just noticed that they at least sometimes use the same. And I highly doubt the latina girl by UCF is affiliated with the girl off Dahlia.

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp; 1559712]Man what's happening people.

Shout out to Light and of course Jenna.

Pinoboy I have defended you and I like you man. I am going to give you the same tough love I gave Valenica guy.

My 10 plus years in this game, I have never see anything like this. You made a couple of mistakes here.

You should have never went to the atm period. You do not have to be a tough guy or anything. The reason I say this is because they could have beat you up anyway after they got the money.

When the third guy jumped out, you either run or fight it out. I understand not every guy is the same. I am just telling you that in no way you should have cats in you're car.

For the record, I am not a guy on the sideline telling you "oh I am a super tough guy I would have done this".

Na, its all about who blinks first. They will always push up on a 'scared cat".

I know from experience. Secondly, why you ain't had a weapon with you is beyond me.

They kept asking you questions about you being in the military and working out because they was just as nervous as you.

Oh yeah, the ho that lined you up. You need to really think about who lined you up man.

You're reputation follows you off this board. Cats just don't force random cats to atm banks.

That only happens when guys got you lined up, know who you are, know you soft.

They know which girls you see, they have seen you a "couple of times" and you're nationality plays a big part in it.

They will push up on an Asian guy and White guy because they figure they won't fight back.

I am black and I am telling you what it is.

You need to really think about how you move for real.

Out of all the times I got lined up, it was the girls that saved me. They generally liked me.

Its funny how hos are the only ones that will keep you alive. They wield tremendous power on the street.

Where do you think the dope boys get most of their money from. The hos give them money and clients that want dope.

If she says she wants you "lined up", well you will get robbed, its just that simple!

Again, Pinoboy you can't do some things you doing and not think these women on the "board" will not line you up.

You can't go against everybody because you feel untouchable.

I hope you learn a lesson.

Nothing like that, that happened to you, is by accident. I am just reading you're story. Something is not right to me.

I think you got setup and it was planned out.

Lastly for all hobbyists out here. Do not let cats force you to an atm at all.

It's not going to always end well just because you give the money from the atm.

If you shot those guys, it would be self defense. They are forcing you to the car and that is grounds enough to shoot.

At some point you got to take control of the situation. If you're going to die during a robbery attempt, I am not going to make it easy put it that way.

Under no circumstances do you go to an atm with 2 men in the car. I assume you are in a parking lot, so you could have fought or run you're way out of it. I say fight and run, just as long, as you do not get in the car.

I would have pulled a light. LOL Hold up my man, let me get my money out the glove compartment.

Bullets would have came from everywhere man. LOL.

By the way, I ain't joking.

I am out.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with what you're saying, but if they were flat out trying to rob me then I would have handled the situation differently. I accepted the fact that it was my wrongdoing for taking it upon myself to perform an act on the girl that was not agreed upon in the beginning. In her defense, she did specifically ask me before the session if what we discussed about was all that I wanted and nothing else, to which I replied "yes". If I would have never breached that agreement then the whole incident would have been avoided for sure. She had even stated in one of her texts that each fetish was 100, but I got her to agree to 50 for the one agreed upon which was given before the session started. But in attempt to get more bang for my buck, I did something with her that was not part of the deal. The first guy even mentioned to me that he understood that sometimes you get caught up in the moment or overexcited, but that I need to expect to pay for anything extra. I had no problem with that. After all, business is business right?

[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy; 1560151][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/pamper-yourself-99/6230494[/url]

Anybody dream with her? Whats the menu? I actually don't mind if there is no extra menu, these 16 hour work days are killing me LOL[/QUOTE]She has been reviewed more than a couple of times by myself and others.