Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Purple45;3631186]It's simple XHIPPIE. These people are government officials and law enforcement so when the media reports a story to the public it must be true. That's the problem because it's not true but what can you do when even the media seems to be complacent with not asking the right questions or investigating on their own. Sure an illegal massage parlor would be one that's not properly license however when you have a massage board that doesn't want to give Asians their license then what are people to do? The only people that seem to care are the good customers who visit the AMPs for the quality of the massage and others who know these ladies personally. Everybody is being force-fed with what the NC massage board puts out by their puppet lawyer team and because they are a government agency then law enforcement just follows the wishes of those in power. Unfortunately there's really nothing that can be done legally but I can think of a whole lot of things that would fall into the grey area of a protest resistance movement that would make some people's lives very uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]More "Fake News" from the news media. LMAO.

[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massage-envy-sexual-assault-allegations/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rdudreaming;3634706][URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massage-envy-sexual-assault-allegations/[/URL][/QUOTE]I thought they had a policy where women only massaged women, guess not.

[QUOTE=Rdudreaming;3634706][URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massage-envy-sexual-assault-allegations/[/URL][/QUOTE]Massage Envy 1100 stores - 180 unwanted groping.

AMP 1100 stores - 180 unwanted blue ball visits.

We feel your pain Massage Envy.

[QUOTE=Rdudreaming;3634706][URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massage-envy-sexual-assault-allegations/[/URL][/QUOTE]Can't resist the chance to comment.

Will the Massage Board scrutinize them as extensive as the AMP's?
Will this be an extended discussion at the next Massage Board Meeting or just a brief we are looking into the matter.
The NORTH CAROLINA Massage Board had this happen to the ones they are supporting (Envy) while ripping their competition.
Who's dropping the ball here? 1. Envy folks are American 2. They speak fluent English 3. All have been issued license by the NCMB 3. No suspected human trafficking 4. All Envy employees go through a background check. Either the Massage Board along with their legal counsel and recent laws passed are not doing their job OR let's face it Massage is an adult business. Adults take off their clothes and get touched. So there is the "potential" someone will try to touch someone or someone will ask to be touched. Right or wrong this is human nature. Setting up ridiculous language standards that Asians can't achieve or claiming human trafficking will not change this human nature. Having shiny polished franchise stores with an all American staff will not change this human nature. The Massage Boards responsibility is to issue massage license to those that have graduated from a board approved school that has provided all documentation. Sure if there are complaints do an internal investigation and decide if LE needs to be notified. But most important leave any laws being broken to LE. And no Racial profiling! But we know how this blip in the news will go.

[QUOTE=XHippie;3635708]Can't resist the chance to comment.

Will the Massage Board scrutinize them as extensive as the AMP's?
Will this be an extended discussion at the next Massage Board Meeting or just a brief we are looking into the matter.
The NORTH CAROLINA Massage Board had this happen to the ones they are supporting (Envy) while ripping their competition.
Who's dropping the ball here? 1. Envy folks are American 2. They speak fluent English 3. All have been issued license by the NCMB 3. No suspected human trafficking 4. All Envy employees go through a background check. Either the Massage Board along with their legal counsel and recent laws passed are not doing their job OR let's face it Massage is an adult business. Adults take off their clothes and get touched. So there is the "potential" someone will try to touch someone or someone will ask to be touched. Right or wrong this is human nature. Setting up ridiculous language standards that Asians can't achieve or claiming human trafficking will not change this human nature. Having shiny polished franchise stores with an all American staff will not change this human nature. The Massage Boards responsibility is to issue massage license to those that have graduated from a board approved school that has provided all documentation. Sure if there are complaints do an internal investigation and decide if LE needs to be notified. But most important leave any laws being broken to LE. And no Racial profiling! But we know how this blip in the news will go.[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to see what happens to them. And funny there was nothing said about human trafficking. I agree all the AMPs should stand up and scream discrimination!

What is this language requirement for licensing? Is it hidden in the form of a test on your knowledge of massage therapy? Or is it unrelated to the "art" ? If it's the latter, that has been debunked as unconstitutional in several contexts. I'm guessing the AMP / s don't ring true as a victim of discrimination to the ACLU or the various Asian legal organizations.

[QUOTE=LPennington;3636078]What is this language requirement for licensing? Is it hidden in the form of a test on your knowledge of massage therapy? Or is it unrelated to the "art" ? If it's the latter, that has been debunked as unconstitutional in several contexts. I'm guessing the AMP / s don't ring true as a victim of discrimination to the ACLU or the various Asian legal organizations.[/QUOTE]This is the NC Massage Boards procedures for all ASIAN applicants and I know from personal experience. A student can graduate from an approved school by the NCMB which the they are required to take the MBLX exam that the NCMB designs. There is no way in hell you can complete these two task without reading, writing and comprehending English. Then there is a boat load of paperwork on top of this, criminal back ground check, work and education history, finger prints at the police station, sealed transcripts from the massage school and a few more I'm probably forgetting. And with ALL this put together in a nice package for the massage board. If your name going across their desk is ASIAN you are going to definitely receive a notice that an INTERVIEW is a must. There can be several graduates from the same class turning in the same required info and only the Asians will be required to be interviewed. Like I said I know this from experience. Now this is where the massage board work their game of control. First they ask a set of questions that are usually laced with medical words not related to what the girls heard in class. Another tactic is they may interview the scared girl at the Massage Board meeting in front of 50 or more people. Public speaking is not easy for Americans imagine what these poor girls are feeling after spending thousands on their education while working part time. So now that the board has made them look and feel stupid they say we feel that your English is too poor to issue you a license. You must pass a TOEFL exam to prove to us you are worthy of our powers to give you a license. This TOEFL is the dagger it is impossible for them to pass this and the massage boards grade requirement for TOEFL is crazy high. Massage Board wins, Asian girls fuck you! Google TOEFL you will see, this is used to get into Universities, these girls just want to massage legally. Everything I described here I went through the total experience with someone and with my help tutoring when I had time the TOEFL was just too tough for her. The massage board doesnt realize these ladies are wanting to play by the rules and are also trying to work and support family members and put food on the table for themselves while working at the same time for survival in a foreign country. They are not some 19 year old kid living at home that has time to study for some TOEFL exam. These ladies legit or nasty girls are hard ass workers and damn brave to make this journey, and to have the balls to spend $5000 + to go to school. Would one of us have the balls to leave here and give it a shot in Beijing? Difference is we would get our license there. She ask me a simple question that I had no good answer, she asked what did I do wrong? Then I gave her an American history lesson about Native Americans and what Martin Luther King was shouting about. The massage board can package it different as public safety or controlling human trafficking but it’s the same shit just a more shiny turd. It's sad but it's definitly discrimination.

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At the risk of sounding redundant, once again I say I appreciate your post. I said in a previous comment that most guys just don't understand how difficult it is for an Asian to practice legal massage (licensed) in NC. Maybe you have answered that question. . "I want open shop in North Cararina" . Great, why don't you? . "You no understand. License to hard. English no good. Questions to medical. " . I heard this more than once. I thought it was an exaggeration so I did some checking on my on. Damn, did I ever have my eyes open to the shitty politics and racial attitudes at work. In the past a few slipped through the cracks but now it's almost impossible. Yes, illegal massage (unlicensed) is quite often the case in this state. Hmmmm, I wonder why?

I half think we need a thread for the politics / unfairness / how the massage board works / news stories. That's all we've seen on this forum for quite some time. I realize the hey day is over for now so maybe it's just that there isn't anything out there worth reporting other than the shop to the north. If there happened to be some decent "intel" it would take someone forever to sort through all the other mess just to find a decent place to have a dream. I used to love being able to pull up the forum while I was out and about and see what the places nearby from JJs list were all about.

Just a suggestion. Not trying to be an ass.

+1. . it is what it is.

[QUOTE=Brneyehound;3637815]I half think we need a thread for the politics / unfairness / how the massage board works / news stories. That's all we've seen on this forum for quite some time. I realize the hey day is over for now so maybe it's just that there isn't anything out there worth reporting other than the shop to the north. If there happened to be some decent "intel" it would take someone forever to sort through all the other mess just to find a decent place to have a dream. I used to love being able to pull up the forum while I was out and about and see what the places nearby from JJs list were all about.

Just a suggestion. Not trying to be an ass.[/QUOTE]Actually you are not being an ass what you are saying is true. I'm surprised that A2 has not said hey guys take this shit to the rant and rave section. Complaining about the current status of the Massage business is the topic being discussed so I guess the massage section is ok to get it off our chest. And yes we should be talking about how good a HE was or hey I TOFTT at the new place. That's the problem it ain't there to discuss. So if we all just stop right now posting on the Massage section until we get some good pussy news to talk about it will probably be pretty quiet I guess. I hate venting about the Massage Board I know it's old news and is a redundant topic but I just ain't getting the fun I use too at the AMP'S around here and I blame the board cry cry sniffle :(
Of course there's a few rub and tug places and the other 2 FS places but variety would be nice. I tell ya I think I just got spoiled by my lady friends in Orlando lord have mercy those are some sex machines, I should stop my whining. But your post is on the mark about what we should be talking about.

[QUOTE=XHippie;3637842]Actually you are not being an ass what you are saying is true. I'm surprised that A2 has not said hey guys take this shit to the rant and rave section. Complaining about the current status of the Massage business is the topic being discussed so I guess the massage section is ok to get it off our chest. And yes we should be talking about how good a HE was or hey I TOFTT at the new place. That's the problem it ain't there to discuss. So if we all just stop right now posting on the Massage section until we get some good pussy news to talk about it will probably be pretty quiet I guess. I hate venting about the Massage Board I know it's old news and is a redundant topic but I just ain't getting the fun I use too at the AMP'S around here and I blame the board cry cry sniffle :(
Of course there's a few rub and tug places and the other 2 FS places but variety would be nice. I tell ya I think I just got spoiled by my lady friends in Orlando lord have mercy those are some sex machines, I should stop my whining. But your post is on the mark about what we should be talking about.[/QUOTE]+1.

All, well said.

I want to hear about AMPs and AAMPs What I am experiencing is a rant against something we are not going to change here.

[QUOTE=Brneyehound;3637815]I half think we need a thread for the politics / unfairness / how the massage board works / news stories. That's all we've seen on this forum for quite some time. I realize the hey day is over for now so maybe it's just that there isn't anything out there worth reporting other than the shop to the north. If there happened to be some decent "intel" it would take someone forever to sort through all the other mess just to find a decent place to have a dream. I used to love being able to pull up the forum while I was out and about and see what the places nearby from JJs list were all about.

Just a suggestion. Not trying to be an ass.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XHippie;3637842]Actually you are not being an ass what you are saying is true. I'm surprised that A2 has not said hey guys take this shit to the rant and rave section. Complaining about the current status of the Massage business is the topic being discussed so I guess the massage section is ok to get it off our chest. And yes we should be talking about how good a HE was or hey I TOFTT at the new place. That's the problem it ain't there to discuss. So if we all just stop right now posting on the Massage section until we get some good pussy news to talk about it will probably be pretty quiet I guess. I hate venting about the Massage Board I know it's old news and is a redundant topic but I just ain't getting the fun I use too at the AMP'S around here and I blame the board cry cry sniffle :(
Of course there's a few rub and tug places and the other 2 FS places but variety would be nice. I tell ya I think I just got spoiled by my lady friends in Orlando lord have mercy those are some sex machines, I should stop my whining. But your post is on the mark about what we should be talking about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hanger42;3639091]+1.

All, well said.

I want to hear about AMPs and AAMPs What I am experiencing is a rant against something we are not going to change here.[/QUOTE]In the past we all talked about an ATF at Studio in Cary, Westgate in Raleigh, ATSU in Cary, Holiday in Morrisville and Eden in Cary. A review would go up on a particular girl and then that AMP was slammed with business while everyone enjoyed the eye candy and / or services. Those days are the past and it's unfortunate but its the current reality. The present situation is that members don't want to post about a new younger girl or new attractive girl because the pressure is on the remaining AMPs that are open. Look around and count the number of AMPs that are now closed that were open just two years ago. Almost all the favorite ones are now closed. This current reality is not favorable to the girls, the owners or the customer. Personally I feel that some information in a post helps those who want to close an AMP more than it helps those who are looking for something fresh and new. In today's climate is it worth the risk? Do you want that girl's face on the evening news in 2 months or do you want to safeguard her livelihood and enjoy your massage until she decides to leave on her own? By all counts everyone is correct that this board is about finding girls and services, but the A2 doesn't care about local politics or AMPs closing because that is just collateral damage and life goes on. This website makes money from advertisers based on membership numbers for the owner and nothing else matters. Well, IMO we live here and we have to suffer through the drought of no available talent so we have to be smart or we will lose what little is left. I can't speak for JJ and his incredible list but I believe there is a reason why it hasn't been updated in long time. Yes, there is still one or two FS AMPs who operate outside of Wake County but gone is the one girl at most AMPs who really stood out and made your appointment extra special.

CLOSED = Holiday, Eden, ATSU (Cary & Garner), Westgate, YUCCA Foot, SuperRelax (Capital), Lotus, Eastern Spa, Touch of Asia and several others!