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[QUOTE=Seffner Monger;1303407]Stopped in at Envy on Kennedy Blvd. On Saturday evening just for something different, and I'm glad I did. There was a really hot, skinny blonde named Marley (sp?) and a cute little spinner (forget her name.)[/QUOTE]I've been to Envy several afternoons and always had a good, satisfying time. Its slow then, with only one or two girls, but they're always easy on the eyes.
While on the cruise today, I noticed that there was some activity at Foxy's today. The front doors were open and it looks like some major construction was taking place inside. No signs indicating a re-opening or re-naming. Just thought I would update.
[QUOTE=Knight Stalker;1308259]While on the cruise today, I noticed that there was some activity at Foxy's today. The front doors were open and it looks like some major construction was taking place inside. No signs indicating a re-opening or re-naming. Just thought I would update.[/QUOTE]I saw a van out front, looks like they may reopen.
I went into YS last night (Sunday. 10/30). About six dancers were working and about 6-8 customers. No sign of manager Don. Familiar faces included: Joey, Dominio, Ireland, Dez, and Deanna. I saw some new faces, like Maria.
Sunday night marked the return of Jayden! She lost a little weight (even though she didn't have much to lose) and she looked a little different. I almost didn't recognize her until I heard her New York accent and saw her booty. She said that she was visiting for the weekend and that Sunday was her last night. She is now working at Tootsies in Miami. She said that she is doing very well. She works mainly nights "all the time." She comes to YS every now and then to visit. I had some dances with Jayden and they were amazing! I should head to Miami soon.
I told Jayden that I would tell her online fan club where she was. So her fans. Head to Miami! .
[QUOTE=Hidell; 1308407]I went into YS last night (Sunday. 10/30).
Sunday night marked the return of Jayden!
I told Jayden that I would tell her online fan club where she was. So her fans. Head to Miami! .[/QUOTE]Shit! Just my luck, I was thinking about going in Sunday but I figured she was gone why bother. Damn it!
[QUOTE=Hidell; 1308407]I went into YS last night (Sunday. 10/30). About six dancers were working and about 6-8 customers. No sign of manager Don. Familiar faces included: Joey, Dominio, Ireland, Dez, and Deanna. I saw some new faces, like Maria.
Sunday night marked the return of Jayden! She lost a little weight (even though she didn't have much to lose) and she looked a little different. I almost didn't recognize her until I heard her New York accent and saw her booty. She said that she was visiting for the weekend and that Sunday was her last night. She is now working at Tootsies in Miami. She said that she is doing very well. She works mainly nights "all the time." She comes to YS every now and then to visit. I had some dances with Jayden and they were amazing! I should head to Miami soon.
I told Jayden that I would tell her online fan club where she was. So her fans. Head to Miami! .[/QUOTE]Guess Ireland is still playing the 'I'm going to retire next month and run my recording business' game.
Why don't you people report something? I just read back to July and 1 real report.
Just babble about the good ole days and zoning laws. Get on track fellas the only girls rated here have retired.
[QUOTE=Bobbybr; 1309962]Why don't you people report something? I just read back to July and 1 real report.
Just babble about the good ole days and zoning laws. Get on track fellas the only girls rated here have retired.[/QUOTE]I see that your post is not a report.
[QUOTE=Originalwook;1308589]Guess Ireland is still playing the 'I'm going to retire next month and run my recording business' game.[/QUOTE]When she retires, Hell will probably freeze over.
[QUOTE=Bobbybr; 1309962]Why don't you people report something? I just read back to July and 1 real report.
Just babble about the good ole days and zoning laws. Get on track fellas the only girls rated here have retired.[/QUOTE]Well noob, there are a couple of thoughts here. Maybe some of us cranky old senior types are fed up with you noobs thinking that you know everything or you just show up with your hand out asking for information before you contribute anything so we decided not to share. Or maybe, some of us old timers remember the days of OFC and prefer to exchange our information through the back channels instead of just tossing it out there for all to see. Or maybe we prefer to keep things quiet so management does not catch on when a good girls is found in one of the clubs.
Or maybe, did you think that maybe there just isn't anything happening lately that is worth sharing?
But heavens, where are my manners. You being a visitor and everything. Welcome to Tampa. Now go the fuck home!
[QUOTE=The Good Doctor;1310220]I see that your post is not a report.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Originalwook;1310425]But heavens, where are my manners. You being a visitor and everything. Welcome to Tampa. Now go the fuck home![/QUOTE]I previously commented on the flaming of noobies not being helpful. I was wrong as the problems appear to be getting worse and the above responses are some funny funny shiat.
I always try to add a report to any comment but do not frequent strip clubs often so I have nothing.
Signed,
F'and new guy who found the search button.
[QUOTE=Hidell;1310272]When she retires, Hell will probably freeze over.[/QUOTE]I've started using it against her when she tries to hit me up for dances, saying "I got a dance last time because you said you were retiring, yet you're still here. I don't being jerked around." I actually haven't gotten a dance from her in years, but she bugs the shit out of me. How many times have I had the hot girl I've been flirting with (and throwing dollars at) on stage walk past me, only to disappear into the private dances for hours with some one else, because Ireland was hanging all over me? If she was hotter and a better dance I could accept some of the annoying stuff from Ireland, but she's neither.
[QUOTE=Originalwook; 1310425]Well noob, there are a couple of thoughts here. Maybe some of us cranky old senior types are fed up with you noobs thinking that you know everything or you just show up with your hand out asking for information before you contribute anything so we decided not to share. Or maybe, some of us old timers remember the days of OFC and prefer to exchange our information through the back channels instead of just tossing it out there for all to see. Or maybe we prefer to keep things quiet so management does not catch on when a good girls is found in one of the clubs.
Or maybe, did you think that maybe there just isn't anything happening lately that is worth sharing?
But heavens, where are my manners. You being a visitor and everything. Welcome to Tampa. Now go the fuck home![/QUOTE]You are the King in my book! Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Hey, all. I'm afraid I am one of those "noobs" who is coming for information and is unable to return the favor (here, anyway). I am a Senior Member from Kansas City and am active in the East St. Louis area. The strip clubs there are very permissive. Some of them are basically little more than bordellos, where every dancer is available for anything including FS in the back room. It is my favorite place to visit, even if a lot of them are pretty dive-why and unsavory.
So, I'm coming to Tampa / St. Pete for a few days. Actually, I'll be here a few days a month for the foreseeable future. I've been reading through the forum here and on the St. Pete board and I've noted a bunch of places that I want to try. Mostly because they are the big names and I've been told by people that I have to visit them. Mons Venus, Ybor Strip, etc. But looking at reviews here and on tuscl makes them seem like pretty basic strip clubs. Sure, the dances may be nude and touching is allowed, but there's not much other detail. I get that, since no one wants to jeopardize a club or a dancer by being too explicit.
I'm wondering if someone might drop me a PM with suggestions for the clubs that get the most mileage. I don't mind the dive bars. I also understand that the highest mileage clubs tend to not have the hottest dancers. I also know that day shift is the best time to go. So, does anyone have suggestions on where in the Tampa / St. Pete area I should check out for the best chance of in-club extras? Not interested in take-out. Any insight would be appreciated. And of course, if anyone ever visits St. Louis I'd be glad to give information on where to find $5 full contact lap dances and full-service available in the back room.
[QUOTE=KC Questor; 1311005]Hey, all. I'm afraid I am one of those "noobs" who is coming for information and is unable to return the favor (here, anyway). I am a Senior Member from Kansas City and am active in the East St. Louis area. The strip clubs there are very permissive. Some of them are basically little more than bordellos, where every dancer is available for anything including FS in the back room. It is my favorite place to visit, even if a lot of them are pretty dive-why and unsavory.
So, I'm coming to Tampa / St. Pete for a few days. Actually, I'll be here a few days a month for the foreseeable future. I've been reading through the forum here and on the St. Pete board and I've noted a bunch of places that I want to try. Mostly because they are the big names and I've been told by people that I have to visit them. Mons Venus, Ybor Strip, etc. But looking at reviews here and on tuscl makes them seem like pretty basic strip clubs. Sure, the dances may be nude and touching is allowed, but there's not much other detail. I get that, since no one wants to jeopardize a club or a dancer by being too explicit.
I'm wondering if someone might drop me a PM with suggestions for the clubs that get the most mileage. I don't mind the dive bars. I also understand that the highest mileage clubs tend to not have the hottest dancers. I also know that day shift is the best time to go. So, does anyone have suggestions on where in the Tampa / St. Pete area I should check out for the best chance of in-club extras? Not interested in take-out. Any insight would be appreciated. And of course, if anyone ever visits St. Louis I'd be glad to give information on where to find $5 full contact lap dances and full-service available in the back room.[/QUOTE]Chances of extras at the Mons and 2001 are practically nil. The girls may promise a lot in the 2001 space ship but it is mostly talk and the Mons does not have a private area meaning everything is done out in the open. Dancers there are generally the best looking in the city though. YS use to be a pretty fun place but there was the management crackdown a few months ago so I have not been back in a while. Don't know if things have picked back up or not.
Actually, some of the St. Pete clubs sound promising but again, I have not visited in person and can only rely upon what has been written here.
[QUOTE=Originalwook; 1311121]Chances of extras at the Mons and 2001 are practically nil. The girls may promise a lot in the 2001 space ship but it is mostly talk and the Mons does not have a private area meaning everything is done out in the open. Dancers there are generally the best looking in the city though. YS use to be a pretty fun place but there was the management crackdown a few months ago so I have not been back in a while. Don't know if things have picked back up or not.
Actually, some of the St. Pete clubs sound promising but again, I have not visited in person and can only rely upon what has been written here.[/QUOTE]I've been back to YS the last week and the place is slowly getting back to it's normal pre-crackdown days. While many of the regular dancers are no longer there, extras are available from certain dancers, especially during the day shift. Apparently, management must have realized their mistake as business has been substantially down since the crackdown. So, while you still see the managers check the rooms, it's not like it's stopping the fun. Also, word has it that many of the dancers have left YS to work in Bare Assets.
[QUOTE=Hockeyboy;1311307]I've been back to YS the last week and the place is slowly getting back to it's normal pre-crackdown days. While many of the regular dancers are no longer there, extras are available from certain dancers, especially during the day shift. Apparently, management must have realized their mistake as business has been substantially down since the crackdown. So, while you still see the managers check the rooms, it's not like it's stopping the fun. Also, word has it that many of the dancers have left YS to work in Bare Assets.[/QUOTE]A few have also supposedly gone to the Pink Pony, or whatever it is called now, over in Drew Park. It was reported here a while back that Dana from YS was there along with a couple of other YS girls.
[QUOTE=Originalwook;1311419]A few have also supposedly gone to the Pink Pony, or whatever it is called now, over in Drew Park. It was reported here a while back that Dana from YS was there along with a couple of other YS girls.[/QUOTE]If you remember the good ole days of Drew Park, then you'll remember that the Pink Pony was one of the best. When Galardi owned it, it was wide open. Today, it is not anywhere close to what it used to be. There was a recent management change, and the old general manager from the old Galardi days,"Dwayne" is now running it again. Maybe it will get better. They have closed the bookstore and are now operating a web cam site in the old retail location. Just an FYI.
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Went to stop in YS Sunday. Kind of slow around 7:30, saw a few walk in for the late shift. I left and went to Orange Spa. See review elsewhere. I went back around 10 and a tall Black chick named Chocolate came right up. She said she is the only chocolate. I remember one there a few years back who was kind of a tease and did part of her dances while you were standing up. First and only one to do that for me there. Well, this chick did the same. Funny I remember the old Chocolate being prettier in the face and bigger tits. Oh well. She immediately asked what I wanted and pushed the champaign room. I said I didn't have that much on me. Go to the ATM she said. No. So she played with me a while and I was rock hard again (even after the visit to OS) and she started to talk about take out. I said I didn't have that much to spend and she countered with, you think I'm a prostitute? No baby its about respect and not wanting to take advantage. And begin clear about expectations frankly. Well that led to where are you staying etc. But I couldn't get too serious as I had an early meeting in the morning that I couldn't screw up with being late etc. She asked for my number and then said, well, I'm not going to call you. WTF? If it was the same Chocolate from before she was still a tease. But it was fun, I have to admit. It did get me wondering what the Champaign room was like. After all these years I've never been in there. But thinking about it one can never be sure what will happen with a tease. Anyone else know about Chocolate?
Reply or PM.
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[QUOTE=Smutmeister; 1312465]If you remember the good ole days of Drew Park, then you'll remember that the Pink Pony was one of the best. When Galardi owned it, it was wide open. Today, it is not anywhere close to what it used to be. There was a recent management change, and the old general manager from the old Galardi days,"Dwayne" is now running it again. Maybe it will get better. They have closed the bookstore and are now operating a web cam site in the old retail location. Just an FYI.
Smut[/QUOTE]I hope he brings back the good old days there but he will need to recruit dancers to work there. I've tried to visit there over the weekends last month and each time, there were no more than 2 cars in the parking lot. And when I did go in, it was absolutely dead with only a few dancers working.
Hit YS Thursday night 11/10. Only about 10-12 girls girls working. Familiar faces Irealand, Treasure and Kathrene. Saw a new dark haired girl with tats running up her back. Turns out her name was Harmony and she was from Hungary. Got a dance from her and wasnt disappointed. Nice tan skin and naturals on top.
[QUOTE=Hockeyboy;1314597]I hope he brings back the good old days there but he will need to recruit dancers to work there. I've tried to visit there over the weekends last month and each time, there were no more than 2 cars in the parking lot. And when I did go in, it was absolutely dead with only a few dancers working.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I stopped in a couple of months back and there were onkly three dancers working and I was the only customer in the place at 9:00 pm. A couple of other guys did eventuaklly come in but they did not stay very long. And the quality of the dancers there was pretty bad. I did not really want to watch them on stage and zi sure was not going to get a private dance from any of them. Plus, their dance fees were outrageous.
1. Their purpose for being there is to make money and do as little as possible.
2. (YMMV) Your Money Makes Value bullshit the hot ones use the ugly ones to run up the rate and con you out of your money.
Ugly ones and drugies do more to get your money.
Hot ones say "I look to good to have to do that"
And in some cases if an average or better looking girl is doing alot of mileage and getting all the cash then the hotter ones try to run them out of the club.
3. The ones scam demand 10s and 5s when breaking a 20 the con is to fill your wallet with ones so you lose track of your big bills.
4. Demand to know up front what the session will have in terms of "mileage" don't fall for that's illegal shit if they won't say they won't do.
5. Money is too damn hard to get to let these bitches cheat you out of it, remember your the man and cash is king the bay area has a lot to offer to get good return on your buck if you do the research.
6. Managers do what the girls pay them to do.
7. This is common sense for senior guys but the young need to control their throbbing cock from taking the lead when a hot naked girl is trying to take control.
Foxy's of Nowatney seems to have moved on to bigger and better things.
Paid a visit to scores last week after a hockey game which they give. 10 off door fee if you bring your stub. Plenty of great looking girls for a wed night, is say 20-25 with a mix of all colors and sizes. No private dance areas so of course no extras which is what 90% of the people here want to know. Drink prices weren't bad, I'm not sure how pushy the girls are with the dances as not one girl approached me since I had my gf with me, main reason why I havnt posted a report in so long but I thought I would give the 411 on Scores if anyone was curious. Oh parking sucks but they have complimentay valet for a tip!
[QUOTE=Skipher;1317253]Foxy's of Nowatney seems to have moved on to bigger and better things.[/QUOTE]Meaning what exactly?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Oscard; 1317770]Meaning what exactly?
Thanks![/QUOTE]There had been speculation that they were going to reopen soon, it seems more likely now that they will relocate or go out of business.
Unlike you posting about one unsuccessful money wasting venture after another. I actually get so me poo = nanny.
Obviously your unsuccessful and lonely. This topic is called strip club reports. Its for doing just that. It doesn't say " Good ole days reports" Which is all you have had to say in 3 months. Go check out the brevard county posts. You may actually help yourself get some!
Stupid ass munch loser.
[QUOTE=Bobbybr; 1318394]Unlike you posting about one unsuccessful money wasting venture after another. I actually get so me poo = nanny.
Obviously your unsuccessful and lonely. This topic is called strip club reports. Its for doing just that. It doesn't say " Good ole days reports" Which is all you have had to say in 3 months. Go check out the brevard county posts. You may actually help yourself get some!
Stupid ass munch loser.[/QUOTE]You are one funny noob.
They are almost finished with the remodel of Club Wild. It looks like the place will look alot nicer when they are done. Hopefully the girls will follow. Just an update for everyone.
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Was in town on Sat. Night and thought that I would head out for some fun. Thought about YS but there has just been too many negative reports recently for my taste and too many of "my" girls have left or have been fired. Plus, I was not in the mood to see manager perv Donnie staking out the rooms so I ended up going to the Pink Pony.
Now there are 30 minutes of my life that I will never get back. The lack of cars in the parking lot should have been my first clue but I went in anyway hoping some of the former YS girls would be there. Besides, cover was only $5. 00. Did not recognize anyone one nor did I spot anyone that I would let sit on my lap. Pretty nasty looking girls.
Club was dead, probably 5 or 6 dancers working and probably the same number of customers. Most seemed content to hang out in the dressing room or sit a the bar and do nothing. Pretty much a wasted evening and I doubt I will go back.
I visited Ybor Strip on Friday. 11/19, at around 6 pm. I saw a few familiar faces, like Lexi, Monique, Joey, Tiki, and Heather. I also saw the return of Julia. Julia looks like she gained 15-20 pounds. Her butt is at least 5 times larger. She has a really bitchy attitude too. She disgusted me. Not with her weight gain, but her bitchy attitude.
I talked a little bit with Heather. She seems to have lost some weight. We went back for a few dances. They were fun, but no extras. Still, they were pretty fun and stimulating.
All in all, not a bad time.
[QUOTE=Smutmeister; 1319420]They are almost finished with the remodel of Club Wild. It looks like the place will look alot nicer when they are done. Hopefully the girls will follow. Just an update for everyone.
Smut[/QUOTE]Been there to club wild yesterday, place is still being rennovated and they have a dress code now! What the heck, and the dances were below average. Can't tocuh or no privacy at the place. Avoid unless you are looking to hang out with frnds and watch football.
I don't see this discussed much on the forum, but I found a coupon for free admission to Scores in the Creative Loafing. I also saw the free admission coupon for 2001 in Nightmoves magazine. They have been printing that forever. I was just visiting Tampa.
I ended up at Scores on Sunday night and it was dead. I'm sure the best talent was off on Sunday, but I was not impressed. One lady who was really hustling dances claimed to be 37, so how old is she really? She had the best body money can buy. Of course the tits were bought, but also her lips and she probably had some body sculpting done too. She offered a lap dance at the table for. 2 or 3 private lappers for. 99. I passed. The only good thing was the free admission and 2 for 1 beers at five dollars.
[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128;1322466]I ended up at Scores on Sunday night and it was dead. .[/QUOTE]It kills me how many negative reports of any club contain one of the following phrases:
". It was Sunday night."
". I was there at noon."
". I was there at 7:30 on a Monday."
Guys, if you go to, not just strip clubs, any bar in general, at these off-beat times, guess what's going to happen? You are going to find a club / bar that is dead as a door nail.
In the case of strip clubs, of course you won't find a whole slew of girls at these off beat times. This is not a time-frame that attracts a whole lot of business.
If you are hellbent on visiting dayshift, early evening or any time on Sunday (with the exception of Mons. 2001 and Scores if it is the three hour period after a home Bucs game) you are not going to find a packed out strip club anywhere in the Tampa Bay area.
You want lot's of dancers and lot's of other guys in the room. Monday through Wednesday, you'll find the most of both in the last three hours the club is open. Move it up to the last five hours the club is open on Friday and Saturday.
End of story.
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski; 1322480]It kills me how many negative reports of any club contain one of the following phrases:
". It was Sunday night."
". I was there at noon."
". I was there at 7:30 on a Monday."
Guys, if you go to, not just strip clubs, any bar in general, at these off-beat times, guess what's going to happen? You are going to find a club / bar that is dead as a door nail.
In the case of strip clubs, of course you won't find a whole slew of girls at these off beat times. This is not a time-frame that attracts a whole lot of business.
If you are hellbent on visiting dayshift, early evening or any time on Sunday (with the exception of Mons. 2001 and Scores if it is the three hour period after a home Bucs game) you are not going to find a packed out strip club anywhere in the Tampa Bay area.
You want lot's of dancers and lot's of other guys in the room. Monday through Wednesday, you'll find the most of both in the last three hours the club is open. Move it up to the last five hours the club is open on Friday and Saturday.
End of story.[/QUOTE]The main purpose of my post was to mention that I had seen a coupon for free admission to Scores. I realize guys go to clubs for many different reasons. Personally I don't go to hang out with a bunch of guys. I have had some of my best times in deserted strip clubs. Of course there are more dancers when it's busy, but there is also more competition for a dancer's time. I've turned down goddesses at Mons thinking I'll see them later for a lapper and never see them again. I actually went to Mons after Scores and did not do any lap dances, but I could have picked any of the dancers because it was not crowded.
I was staying in St Pete and was going to drive up to the Tampa clubs on Saturday night. But decided against it because I thought they would be too crowded and hectic for my taste.
So, perhaps I was not clear in my post. The purpose of my post was not to complain that Scores was dead on a Sunday night. My understanding is Scores bills itself as an upscale club. If that's the case in my opinion they should only put quality dancers on their stage. When it's not busy I would expect fewer dancers and maybe a little less quality. The quality at Mons was down from a busy time, but there were still several real hotties.
Maybe the price of admission is not a big deal and nobody is interested in a coupon. So sorry I bothered you all. I won't waste any more of your time.
[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128;1322699]The main purpose of my post was to mention that I had seen a coupon for free admission to Scores. I realize guys go to clubs for many different reasons. Personally I don't go to hang out with a bunch of guys. I have had some of my best times in deserted strip clubs.[/QUOTE]Okay, so you're going for the right reasons. That said, you'd be shocked at just how many guys walk out of a strip club. Clubs with 20+ girls on shift but it's early in the evening and their reasoning is "There's no guys here."
I've stated many times in the past, I have had a huge connection to the Tampa Bay area strip clubs for over twenty years, now. I'm not making this up. I've witnessed it on a daily basis.
[QUOTE=Lonelyguy128; 1322699]So, perhaps I was not clear in my post. The purpose of my post was not to complain that Scores was dead on a Sunday night. My understanding is Scores bills itself as an upscale club. If that's the case in my opinion they should only put quality dancers on their stage. When it's not busy I would expect fewer dancers and maybe a little less quality. The quality at Mons was down from a busy time, but there were still several real hotties.
Maybe the price of admission is not a big deal and nobody is interested in a coupon. So sorry I bothered you all. I won't waste any more of your time.[/QUOTE]Dude, calm down. You're not wasting anyone's time. Thanks for your report.
Now, harsh reality. Every club in Tampa Bay, except maybe Starlight and The Library, likes to think of themselves as "upscale."
Even more harsh reality: There are way too many strip clubs in the Tampa Bay area for every club that thinks of itself as upscale to provide you with women that stepped straight out of some teenager's wet dream.
A much more harsh reality: If the club is known for extras, the girls ain't going to be that pretty and their bodies will not be tight as a drum and in the pinacle of physically fit.
The harsh truth: There are, exactly, two clubs you can go to in the Tampa Bay area and find a whole lot of really hot girls. They are Mons and 2001. And on any given night, you'll find 10-20% of 2001's line-up to not be what you'd expect from the price of admission and at least one. Many nights, two. Of those girls (Bam Bam for size and Yvetta for sheer ugliness) would scare the living shit out of the most brave of men.
Sadly, you won't find much in the extras department at either. But you'll have some damn fine eye candy.
But I was just saying that there are so many reviews out there on boards like this. If you go to the ultimate strip club list, you'll find reports from all around the world that talk about dead Sundays, afternoons, early evenings. I was just commenting on the sheer volume of these types of reports and your mentioning a dead Sunday came at a time when I had the free time to ramble on about something that's driven me nuts for years.
No offense to you. Thanks for your report. I hope a lot of guys use those cover charge coupons.
You said you'd expect an "upscale club" to offer better but the truth is, ain't no one's A-Team working on Sunday nights, from the dancers to the bar staff to the DJs to the managers to the bouncers.
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski;1323282]Okay, so you're going for the right reasons. That said, you'd be shocked at just how many guys walk out of a strip club. Clubs with 20+ girls on shift but it's early in the evening and their reasoning is "There's no guys here."[/QUOTE]There may be some guys that think like that, but if I walk into a strip club and there's some dancers on shift and no guys I'm thrilled because then I've got my pick of the place. I've had some great times on slow days.
On the other hand, if a strip club is going to be open on a Sunday or afternoon or some other slow time they should at least still be making some attempt at offering entertainment when a customer is in the house. Otherwise they shouldn't bother being open. Don't sell me an overpriced drink and then tell me there's no girls there; that's like going into an open restaurant and being told you can sit down, but there's no food today. If I wanted to go to a bar without strippers I'd go to a bar with reasonable prices.
[QUOTE=Miami Viceroy; 1323845]There may be some guys that think like that, but if I walk into a strip club and there's some dancers on shift and no guys I'm thrilled because then I've got my pick of the place. I've had some great times on slow days.
On the other hand, if a strip club is going to be open on a Sunday or afternoon or some other slow time they should at least still be making some attempt at offering entertainment when a customer is in the house. Otherwise they shouldn't bother being open. Don't sell me an overpriced drink and then tell me there's no girls there; that's like going into an open restaurant and being told you can sit down, but there's no food today. If I wanted to go to a bar without strippers I'd go to a bar with reasonable prices.[/QUOTE]The biggest mistake everyone makes is that they can not comprehend that a strip club is not and can not (well it could but it would take owners with balls and those don't exist in today's strip club culture) operate like a normal business.
Yes, the normal thinking person says something like ". If a strip club is going to be open on a Sunday or afternoon or some other slow time, they should at least still be making some attempt at offering entertainment."
Yes, that is how a normal business would operate. Strip clubs, however, have become slaves to the dancers because the current crop of owners lack balls.
Diamond Dolls in Clearwater was the first domino to fall in the Tampa Bay area, nearly two decades ago. They got a manager who would look at a pretty girl and be so damn afraid she might go work somewhere else that if she didn't want to dance to decent music, she didn't have to. If the shift was 7-2 but she wanted to come in at 10:30 and be gone by midnight, so be it, God forbid she go work somewhere else. If she balked at being told what days she needed to be at work, let her have her way because, holy shit, she's hot and we can't let another club have her.
So now you have an entire metro area with strip clubs where there is no such thing as a dancers' schedule. Dancers don't even have to tell the club what days they plan to work. They show up on the days they want to, at the time they want to and they leave when they want to.
The inmates run the asylums.
There is a big enough day shift pie to support and two decently staffed clubs on each side of the bay and enough Sunday pie to support one decently staffed club on each side of the bay. But no owner has enough balls to be the first to say,"I'm done wasting money being open at these times." They are all too afraid that if they are closed during the day or on Sundays that you, their precious customer, might go to a competitor.
I had a long drawn out argument with the owner of Temptations, back in the mid-90s. They had a successful day shift and night shift but could not get a single dancer to work on Sundays. Yet they insisted on staying open. I asked the owner, repeatedly,"Would you rather have guys find a locked door on Sundays and tell his friends, 'I guess Temptations is closed on Sundays, ' or do like they are doing now, telling friends, 'I went to Temptations the other night. It sucks, no girls work there. '"
So I'll tell you what I tell everyone who suggests "they need to staff it better, etc." about strip clubs. Go open a club and try to run it that way. When you're ready to kill yourself over the red ink spraying all over the place, I'll buy it from you for millicents on the dollar and you'll thank me for it and then be baffled as to how I made it work when you couldn't and you were "doing it right."
As for your first comment about having fun when it's dead in the club, yes it can be fun and economical. But we are not in the majority. Most guys will not go into an empty club. Again, this is not something I'm pulling out of my ass, this is something I've observed on a daily basis for twenty-one years.
Now, by the same token, if your income depended upon customers being there to spend money and you had a dozen other guys trying to make that same money and on Sundays, you kept finding that there were only enough customers for four of the thirteen of you to make money, would you still make any effort to work on Sundays? Or would you continue to go in and make nothing, yet still have to pay the expenses of being there?
So it's great that YOU want to go spend money at an off time. But if you're the only one who wants to, there's not going to be a lot of prime talent from which to choose.
And, like I said, you are right. The clubs that can't make it happen on those off times should just close. But that's not going to happen and half the reason is that plenty of the same people who go online and ***** about the lack of girls in off times would be on these same boards raising holy hell about how "now they aren't even bothering to be open for me on those off times I love to go in."
Saw two new nice additions to YS Wednesday night. Some new Hawaiian girl named Laylana (don't know about spelling) , and another new girl from Brazil. Both have great bodys but didn't get a chance to get a dance.