Massage Parlor Reports (Formerly Pine)

[QUOTE=Zoomy99;3120461]What makes the difference is hurt feelings. That's huge. No reason to make the MT feel bad. Lots of different ways to turn away, lots of things one can say so she doesn't feel bad. This jerk chose to be unkind. No reason for that. That is what makes the difference.[/QUOTE]If you deal with the public at a retail level, you had better develop a Turtle Wax Hard Shell finish. I'm sure she's had it happen before, and it will happen again. Better than this guy insulting her directly, acting / being disappointed and writing a lousy review somewhere, or getting weird or aggressive in the room when he decides he'll get all that he can. Hurt feelings are minor compared to the other negative things potentially in this situation.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3120214]Ordered a pad. So one room has a sauna and a table. The other will have the pad. Next week.

I'm also trying to find an app or something that tells people when we have availability and when we are busy. Its amazingly frustrating how she has no customers all morning and then three people all arrive between 2 and 2:30.

Today, I have to vent. Guy shows up. I'm in back. He says to "L", Are you the only woman? Nobody else? Ok, never mind. And he leaves. So, okay, he has a type. Looking for a twenty year old, perhaps. But L is slim and beautiful, and an incredible human being. His loss. But what a classless way to handle the situation. For gosh sakes, just ask something like how late are you open? Why hurt her feelings? Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, you know that's how some guys treat the women. Its not right but there are some nasty people (men and women) in this business. But there are lot more good people in this world. Yea! Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3120214]Today, I have to vent. Guy shows up. I'm in back. He says to "L", Are you the only woman? Nobody else? Ok, never mind. And he leaves. So, okay, he has a type. Looking for a twenty year old, perhaps. But L is slim and beautiful, and an incredible human being. His loss. But what a classless way to handle the situation. For gosh sakes, just ask something like how late are you open? Why hurt her feelings? Bob.[/QUOTE]It's a business. You will some great customers and some not so great customers. If you run a business then you will need thick skin.

[QUOTE=Bob521;3120214]Ordered a pad. So one room has a sauna and a table. The other will have the pad. Next week.

I'm also trying to find an app or something that tells people when we have availability and when we are busy. Its amazingly frustrating how she has no customers all morning and then three people all arrive between 2 and 2:30.

Today, I have to vent. Guy shows up. I'm in back. He says to "L", Are you the only woman? Nobody else? Ok, never mind. And he leaves. So, okay, he has a type. Looking for a twenty year old, perhaps. But L is slim and beautiful, and an incredible human being. His loss. But what a classless way to handle the situation. For gosh sakes, just ask something like how late are you open? Why hurt her feelings? Bob.[/QUOTE]They say the true measure of a person's character is how they treat people when nobody is watching. Like the security guard. Or waitress. Or whoever. If you think about it, one of the reasons we love the AMP's is the girls are generally so sincerely sweet and kind. That's why the FWBMP's failed (Fat White Bitchy MP's). Hope you explained to L that most people are normal and kind. What a dope that dude was.

[QUOTE=Zoomy99;3120461]What makes the difference is hurt feelings. That's huge. No reason to make the MT feel bad. Lots of different ways to turn away, lots of things one can say so she doesn't feel bad. This jerk chose to be unkind. No reason for that. That is what makes the difference.[/QUOTE]Totally, totally, totally agree.

AJ.

[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;3120236]What makes the difference? He wasn't going to get what he was looking for anyway. You probably came out ahead on this exchange.[/QUOTE]You may want to consider future visits. You get a rep as the guy who comes in, makes life miserable and leaves, when you finally do see what you like, her friends will tell on you.

A wise man (I think it was Benny Hill) once told me to always be nice to the people who handle your food, even if they are providing less than acceptable service. That way, there is less of a chance they will do something nasty to your food while they serve it to you with a smile. I think the same can be said for MPs.

You guys are all correct. L took it better than I did. I told her what he was looking for, and I could tell she sort of figured it out and, as WRD pointed out, it was for the best anyway. I can take insults pretty well when they are directed at me. Most are deserved anyway. But I get upset when they are directed at people I care about. I know everybody here on this board understands that and feels the same way. If somebody is nasty to your child, or wife or sister. You would be much more upset than if someone was nasty to you. In fact today, a similar thing happened, but the guy was pretty cool. He asked the price and promised to come back. But L and I both knew he was checking the place out. Bob.

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3121114]They say the true measure of a person's character is how they treat people when nobody is watching. Like the security guard. Or waitress. Or whoever. If you think about it, one of the reasons we love the AMP's is the girls are generally so sincerely sweet and kind. That's why the FWBMP's failed (Fat White Bitchy MP's). Hope you explained to L that most people are normal and kind. What a dope that dude was.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;3120214]Ordered a pad. So one room has a sauna and a table. The other will have the pad. Next week.

I'm also trying to find an app or something that tells people when we have availability and when we are busy. Its amazingly frustrating how she has no customers all morning and then three people all arrive between 2 and 2:30.

Today, I have to vent. Guy shows up. I'm in back. He says to "L", Are you the only woman? Nobody else? Ok, never mind. And he leaves. So, okay, he has a type. Looking for a twenty year old, perhaps. But L is slim and beautiful, and an incredible human being. His loss. But what a classless way to handle the situation. For gosh sakes, just ask something like how late are you open? Why hurt her feelings? Bob.[/QUOTE]Good riddance though. If he was a jerk upfront, he would have continued to be a jerk for an hour, and tried stuff he shouldn't with L. And she's a cutie, there' no reason to turn her down for looks anyway.

We agree with you and appreciate all of our friends' business. She does get a lot of repeat business, which is the key to success in any business, legit or otherwise.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;3122040]Good riddance though. If he was a jerk upfront, he would have continued to be a jerk for an hour, and tried stuff he shouldn't with L. And she's a cutie, there' no reason to turn her down for looks anyway.[/QUOTE]

Went to the house of pain just to try for myself. Reviews are accurate as the massage was pretty rough. The more concerning part was I ended up having a bunch of scratches all over my back. They were pretty deep that they left marks for a few days. Just a heads up as this could be a little hard to explain to a missus.

Sounds painful and like she has no idea how to do a massage properly.

[QUOTE=Zsasz1;3126398]Went to the house of pain just to try for myself. Reviews are accurate as the massage was pretty rough. The more concerning part was I ended up having a bunch of scratches all over my back. They were pretty deep that they left marks for a few days. Just a heads up as this could be a little hard to explain to a missus.[/QUOTE]

In my search to find a replacement for Anna's I stopped by Gem. Two providers. Mms maybe 50 or so and the other gal was a grandma at least 60. Used the John and noticed they have 8 or so massage rooms that were all empty. They were none to pleased I used the bathroom! Walked right out. Oh well at least I saved my cash. The thought of a massage from granny is enough to make me vomit! The search continues.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3126490]Sounds painful and like she has no idea how to do a massage properly.[/QUOTE]As reported a while back, "Lilly" walked on my back and thought sliding her dry feet. With all her weight. Down the sides of my back was a good idea. Had a welt for a week! Never again.

The only good thing I can say about Lilly's is there is a liquor store next door to drink enough to forget your visit!

[QUOTE=Zsasz1;3126398]Went to the house of pain just to try for myself. Reviews are accurate as the massage was pretty rough. The more concerning part was I ended up having a bunch of scratches all over my back. They were pretty deep that they left marks for a few days. Just a heads up as this could be a little hard to explain to a missus.[/QUOTE]Because of extreme back pain, took a chance on the House of Pain massage. Sometimes the painful legit massages work the best on me.

My experience was somewhat different. Yes the massage was harder / stronger than usual, but that's what I was looking for. In so much pain I felt I had nothing to lose. No back walking, feet sliding, or welts or scratches. Or neck cracking.

Just a really hard seemingly therapeutic massage with little to no oil with almost no teasing. On the flip a somewhat too vigorous and ballbusting finish was on the menu. I suppose if I find any scratches or welts that's where I'll be looking first. No other front massage occcured- HE, cleanup, and get the f* out. I much prefer another 5-10 of massage after the HE. Was kinduv there during rush hour, and WAS kinda rushed. In / out in about 45-50 minutes.

Door is. 7 there, a little more than I prefer. But it was a decent, albeit utilitarian experience. Got my back pounded on, then my twig&berries pounded on. I didn't mention the MT really; assuming she's the MMS. Somewhat older (40-ish looking, so add 10 probably) but I found her rather fit, attractive, wearing a mini-skirt. Roaming (up top) was discouraged by the classic boob-block maneuver.

Not an Anna's replacement, but a place to go if you really need a non-sensual therapeutic full body beat down. And a HE in the same visit.

Been away from L'Ville for a while, are Pine and Cozy closed? Used to see Connie off and on for a number of years, not the greatest but very reliable.

I guess that is the nature of the AMP business, they just disappear without warning.

Anyone check out Chinese massage lately? I haven't seen any recent posts on RM. Or this forum. Anyone? Thanks.

Thanks for the House of Pain review. I got a massage today at Royal Asian in Riverwoods for $75 for an hour since it is nearby and my back was super tight. She was none too pleased with my cheap tip. Oh well. It is difficult when she starts to get you excited then says times up and leaves the room. As far as legit massages I am thinking I should only go for a 1/2 hour back & shoulders only. For full body I need the release for complete relaxation.

[QUOTE=SmileySam;3134183]Thanks for the House of Pain review. I got a massage today at Royal Asian in Riverwoods for $75 for an hour since it is nearby and my back was super tight. She was none too pleased with my cheap tip. Oh well. It is difficult when she starts to get you excited then says times up and leaves the room. As far as legit massages I am thinking I should only go for a 1/2 hour back & shoulders only. For full body I need the release for complete relaxation.[/QUOTE]However have never cracked the HE there.

[QUOTE=DoMe2;3132372]Anyone check out Chinese massage lately? I haven't seen any recent posts on RM. Or this forum. Anyone? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been a while and remembered the good and bad. The good, they truly give great massage. With the climb on top of you knee massage and crotch on back of head move. However always marginal looking and worst is that damn foot of space above the wall in the adjoining room. One of you came in 5 minutes after me and was a race to see who could ruin the other persons session. Hate hearing other shit. Anyway. I won and got out of there quickly!

I was at a place in schlongburg a few years back, spring massage. The walls did not go all the way up to the ceiling and you could hear everything. So I had to listen to the moaning of another monger getting a HJ. The lady finally told him to be quiet. She finished and he was still going on about it and she told him to get dressed and go home.

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3134435]Been a while and remembered the good and bad. The good, they truly give great massage. With the climb on top of you knee massage and crotch on back of head move. However always marginal looking and worst is that damn foot of space above the wall in the adjoining room. One of you came in 5 minutes after me and was a race to see who could ruin the other persons session. Hate hearing other shit. Anyway. I won and got out of there quickly![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3134435]Been a while and remembered the good and bad. The good, they truly give great massage. With the climb on top of you knee massage and crotch on back of head move. However always marginal looking and worst is that damn foot of space above the wall in the adjoining room. One of you came in 5 minutes after me and was a race to see who could ruin the other persons session. Hate hearing other shit. Anyway. I won and got out of there quickly![/QUOTE]Didn't notice the walls. Good to know. The other major negative is the strip mall is super busy! 3 strikes I am out.

[QUOTE=Yeouch;3134435]Been a while and remembered the good and bad. The good, they truly give great massage. With the climb on top of you knee massage and crotch on back of head move. However always marginal looking and worst is that damn foot of space above the wall in the adjoining room. One of you came in 5 minutes after me and was a race to see who could ruin the other persons session. Hate hearing other shit. Anyway. I won and got out of there quickly![/QUOTE]I couldn't wait. Found out for myself about the short walls and noisy neighbors. Was only one in the joint, just got started, other girl and monger enter next room. A regular john, who knew her, start loud giggling noise making, talking, can hear everything, what a mood killer. Took me extra long to get a quiet release. I didn't want them to hear me either, uninspired time. Moving on.

[QUOTE=DoMe2;3134807]I couldn't wait. Found out for myself about the short walls and noisy neighbors. Was only one in the joint, just got started, other girl and monger enter next room. A regular john, who knew her, start loud giggling noise making, talking, can hear everything, what a mood killer. Took me extra long to get a quiet release. I didn't want them to hear me either, uninspired time. Moving on.[/QUOTE]Come to think of it doesn't sunset have the open couple feet above a few of their rooms? Figured it was a regulation issue. Remember being in there about a year ago and had to listen to a construction guy in to quote some potential work. Needless to say left unhappy and still looking for Anna's replacement joints. Also been to some some places with the curtain doors. What are they thinkn?

I frequent here and have made very good friends with Lisa. She is back in China now. New girl today wore a sort of sailor moon outfit little skirt thing. No leggings just pantys. Her voice is very tiny. She's thick for a Chinese girl but I had a great time! I give it 2 thumbs up. Think ill revisit asap.

Visited gem twice in the last month. Drew genie (jeanie?) on both occasions. 1st time: paid. 8 house fee to the mms and was greeted by a mid-30's MT. Face had some age but her body was good. Great TS, really paid extra attention to the sensitive areas. After that, massage was great, firm pressure with a good amount of teasing. Speaks very good english and was nice to actually have a conversation. On the flip she asks if I'm going to take care of her too in which I obliged. Standard finish, tipped. 4 and was out the door with a smile on my face. Went back 2 weeks later and drew same MT. Little disappointed in lack of variety but at the same time I knew it was a safe bet. This time was not as flirtatious, much more mechanical. TS was still good, but lacked some teasing in comparison to the last time. Massage was great once again, even walked my back this time which definitely helped as I am a hockey player and frequently need my back worked on. Same finish and same tip as before. Good in a pinch but there are definitely better out there.

Visited Pine in LV last week and had an absolute blast. What a dream. Paid the normal. 80 house fee and was taken into a room in which I was met by MT Sara (h). Late 20's, killer body, DD's easily, nice firm ass, beautiful girl. Opted for TS and it was fantastic. Lots of teasing and scratching which I loved. Massage was decent, nothing to write home about. On the flip we have our negotiations and settle on FS for $ . 2. Rolls the condom on with her mouth and provided great CBJ, then CG until finish. Man was she going hard. Cleaned up and left happy. Would return.

[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;3129149]Been away from L'Ville for a while, are Pine and Cozy closed? Used to see Connie off and on for a number of years, not the greatest but very reliable.

I guess that is the nature of the AMP business, they just disappear without warning.[/QUOTE]Yes they both are closed. I'm from the area and drove by yesterday to see actually. No sign on either door, just locked and no lights. Middle of the day. Not sure what happened.

[QUOTE=JerichoHalic28;3143758]Yes they both are closed. I'm from the area and drove by yesterday to see actually. No sign on either door, just locked and no lights. Middle of the day. Not sure what happened.[/QUOTE]Libertyville tightens rules for massage parlors.

September 15,2013.

By Kate Jacobson, Chicago Tribune reporter.

Libertyville officials have enacted stricter rules regarding massage therapists and massage parlors in response to a state law passed in an attempt to better regulate the industry.

Village officials recently adopted the new ordinance, which lays out who can operate massage parlors and where such businesses can be located. Previously, officials said, massage businesses did not need to be licensed.

The biggest change over the previous village ordinance is that officials now have the ability to revoke a business license if a massage therapist in the establishment is found guilty of crimes including prostitution. Libertyville Police Chief Cliff Herdegen said if someone is convicted of being paid for sexual acts while inside the business, village officials will revoke the establishment's license.

My guess is when Pine, Cozy and Asian Wellness got busted back in early summer, the closure clause was enacted!

Haven't been in the hobby in over a year and had been having cravings. Visited this spot in Lincolnshire to start back up. The massage was covered, yet at times sat on me to rub better Not a single hint of extras and couldnt even tell where she was standing at times in order to attempt acciental leg stroke. Wouldn't have tipped if the actual massage wasn't good.

I will add the place is clean and looks legit. They had quite a few girls(all asian)and I believe there are extras, but I look a bit straight edge (could be confused for LEO) . Probably wouldn't have tried it, but another site had given it stars.

If anyone has a review of the other Lincolnshire spot drop me a line.

[QUOTE=Tetsuo100;3145688]Haven't been in the hobby in over a year and had been having cravings. Visited this spot in Lincolnshire to start back up. The massage was covered, yet at times sat on me to rub better Not a single hint of extras and couldnt even tell where she was standing at times in order to attempt acciental leg stroke. Wouldn't have tipped if the actual massage wasn't good.

I will add the place is clean and looks legit. They had quite a few girls(all asian)and I believe there are extras, but I look a bit straight edge (could be confused for LEO) . Probably wouldn't have tried it, but another site had given it stars.

If anyone has a review of the other Lincolnshire spot drop me a line.[/QUOTE]RM has this place listed as non erotic. I have been there numerous times for legit massages and that's all there is available. Nice girls and cute but totally legit.

Paid a visit to Heaven on GB this past Thursday around 1:00 pm, nobody waiting. "Rita" answered the door and was also the one to give me my massage. Although I told her otherwise, this was my first visit. One hr massage was $60 and was a pretty good massage, good technique, not rushed. She asked if I wanted a cover (towel) about 15 minutes into it, I declined. Rita is a petite woman, small tattoo on neck / shoulder area, late 20's / early 30's (I could be off), but definitely cute. Provided very nice HE for $40. Asked about other menu items but she said they weren't available. She wore tight pants and tank top (but with heavy duty bra underneath), allowed roaming outside of clothing.

With the massage spots can you get more then that?

I want to try it but am to nervous to ask for more then a massage.

Late word is they have been shut down due to some kind of violation. ?? Don't know.

[QUOTE=Junior189;3152013]With the massage spots can you get more then that?

I want to try it but am to nervous to ask for more then a massage.[/QUOTE]Junior,

Four posts and all questions.

By now, you probably know how this goes. There is plenty of info on boards to help you get into the game if that's what you want.

Go take the plunge, pick one of the AMPs that have been mentioned on the board and give it a go. If it's your first time, Just go shallow, be polite and friendly and see how it goes. Walk in with no more than $120 in $20 bills so you don't over pay for your first trip. That gives you $80 for a door fee and $40 for a HE tip.

Once you are done, the most important thing is for you to log back onto ASG and report your trip. Not too many dirty details but enough that we get the gist of your trip.

Eventually, you will develop some clout with other members and things will open up for you.

Be safe Junior!

Joe.

[QUOTE=Junior189;3152013]With the massage spots can you get more then that?

I want to try it but am to nervous to ask for more then a massage.[/QUOTE]First, you should RTFF. Lot of info for you. Second, I'm feelling helpful.

1- Only bring the exact cash you plan to spend. (40 or 60 for massage and 40 or more for extras) Leave wallet, I'd, credit card, etc hidden in your car. Park elsewhere if you don't want to be I'd'd and walk.

2- Walk in like your coming home from a hard day at work. Like you know what your doing, but be QUIET. You'll be greeted at the desk by mamasan and asked two questions. A- "Have you been here before?" Always answer 'yes' or 'no, but I go to such and such place across town all the time'. No need to elaborate on this. Also, never tell them its your first time. 2 - "You want one hour or half hour?" Its ok to ask how much, but I recommend picking one hour no matter what. Going rate is 40/ half and 60/ full, but YMMV.

3. DO NOT, and this is important, DO NOT ask about extras or anything other than answering the questions in the front room.

4 . She'll lead you to the room and tell you to get ready. When she leaves, get butt naked and lay face down on the table and wait. Don't put a towel on. Be butt naked. If your old and fat, don't worry, most of us are and they've seen it all.

5. She'll come back in and ask how you like massage. Soft, med, or hard. Take your pick.

6. Wait about 5 minutes into the massage, then try to give a hint to what you want. Kind of brush or rub her leg. Test the waters. She'll usually be ok with this. Move your hand upwards to her butt and see if she's ok. You can ask "Is this ok". She'll most likely say 'yes'. She might starts some teasing, like moving up and down your butt crack or inner thighs. Its ok to spread your legs a little to give her room to reach under if you want. If she does this your in like Flint.

6. After about 20 minutes give or take (in one hour massage) she'll ask you to flip.

7. She'll do about 5 minutes of massage, making some teasing motions near your little head.

8. When this happens she might make a HJ hand gesture or pull on your pudd and ask 'you like? I've never had to ask for the ending because I RTFF and learned which places are a sure thing. Just smile and nod. She might hold up six fingers. Shake your head and hold up 4. That's the going rate. We're trying to keep it that way. Don't let your little head do the thinking. 4 is the going rate. That is what you should pay.

9. Let her do her magic. Its ok to say slow down as they tend to be a jack hammer sometimes.

10. When you finish, she'll clean you up and finish with more massage.

11. When she says times up, get up and put your clothes on. She might help you. Give her the tip and she'll give you a nice hug and a peck on the check and see you out the door.

Good luck and make sure to report back here.

[QUOTE=Kampyone;3153730]
4 . She'll lead you to the room and tell you to get ready. When she leaves, get butt naked and lay face down on the table and wait. Don't put a towel on. Be butt naked. If your old and fat, don't worry, most of us are and they've seen it all.[/QUOTE]Or sit there naked, get up and give her a hug and say hello / introduce yourself when she walks in. That definitely shows what you're there for.

-w.

Unbelievable! Went to Chinese Massage on Greenbay. Notice on door! Went to Sunset Spa. Same notice on door. WTF. But can't be a coincidence. Tried Heaven for first time with standard ending. WTF tho. What's going on.

[QUOTE=Meechie00;3157411]Unbelievable! Went to Chinese Massage on Greenbay. Notice on door! Went to Sunset Spa. Same notice on door. WTF. But can't be a coincidence. Tried Heaven for first time with standard ending. WTF tho. What's going on.[/QUOTE]Yes I reported on that last week. Don't know what happened? Reliable place.

[QUOTE=DoMe2;3157734]Yes I reported on that last week. Don't know what happened? Reliable place.[/QUOTE]Now we're down to Heaven and Green. Both solid but wow.

Paid 3 visits to Yedam in Buffalo grove in the last 3 o days. First visit should promise and I was hoping I may have found a replacement for Cozy. Second visit totally changed that opinion. On the second visit Masseuse was unattractive to say the least. Massage bordered on abuse. I asked several times for a soft massage and was repaid with pressure that left bruises. I do not recommend for hobbyist or for those getting a legit massage.

[QUOTE=Meechie00;3157411]Unbelievable! Went to Chinese Massage on Greenbay. Notice on door! Went to Sunset Spa. Same notice on door. WTF. But can't be a coincidence. Tried Heaven for first time with standard ending. WTF tho. What's going on.[/QUOTE]Chinese massage on GB road is open again. Visited yesterday and drew a 35 ish Asian woman, cute and giggly, good massage and I left happy. I tried to ask the mms why they were closed down. She also just giggled and said "10 o'clock " LOL.