Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

Yo CJ before you get heated over my comments on rates maybe you should realize you see clients including me for under your advertised rate. I don't haggle it's not my problem you and Erin will fuck me for less than you charge someone else! Grand Rapids has a bunch of wannabe hookers who can't make rent stay sober or respond to messages that benefits you personally and hurts clients. I think your rate of $250 for under a half hour is too high and have never paid that to see you. Don't confuse complaining with advice. If clients keep their wallets shut the prices will be more in line with the service provided. You provide an unmatched experience no question there LOL but I won't recommend someone to pay $250 when I pay less.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7404242]Yo CJ before you get heated over my comments on rates maybe you should realize you see clients including me for under your advertised rate. I don't haggle it's not my problem you and Erin will fuck me for less than you charge someone else! Grand Rapids has a bunch of wannabe hookers who can't make rent stay sober or respond to messages that benefits you personally and hurts clients. I think your rate of $250 for under a half hour is too high and have never paid that to see you. Don't confuse complaining with advice. If clients keep their wallets shut the prices will be more in line with the service provided. You provide an unmatched experience no question there LOL but I won't recommend someone to pay $250 when I pay less.[/QUOTE]Might be in the minority here but I agree with the message but the delivery is a bit off. Would love to see CJ if I could get the bean rate tho LOL.

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7405039]Might be in the minority here but I agree with the message but the delivery is a bit off. Would love to see CJ if I could get the bean rate tho LOL.[/QUOTE]Based on past PMs I have received you aren't alone. Unfortunately people don't like to speak as openly on the forums as they do through private message. Within a day of my post here comes another glowing review of CJ of someone who doesn't post in GR much and only posts about her and a select few others without stating a rate. People are very sensitive and fragile about being linked to alternate accounts so if you check their post history you can probably guess who it is if you've been on the boards the last few years. CJ is the equivalent of a porn star. A 15 minute appt shouldn't cost $250. Both can be true but people really don't like it when you talk about it LOL. I'm sure there will be posts now saying they enjoyed their full time with her and not share what they paid. Same people who brag about not lasting 10 minutes because she's intense. I don't pay $250 to fuck her nor should you.

How does a Monger have 130+ posts and still be a regular Member? Have the Senior Member rules / qualifications been changed? I got no memo, no TPS report!

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;7405475]How does a Monger have 130+ posts and still be a regular Member? Have the Senior Member rules / qualifications been changed? I got no memo, no TPS report![/QUOTE]How long has he been in the board? I was well over the required post number before I had my 6 months in.

[QUOTE=BTrucker1964;7406465]How long has he been in the board? I was well over the required post number before I had my 6 months in.[/QUOTE]I guess I have senior status now thanks Mr Jelly! I never pay attention to status but someone made it happen.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7408817]I guess I have senior status now thanks Mr Jelly! I never pay attention to status but someone made it happen.[/QUOTE]Hells Yeah!

I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex..[/QUOTE]If they aren't swallowing, I won't pay ten bucks. The whole point of this hobby for me is finding a woman who will do what my wife won't do. Swallow my load or I will find a woman who will.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.[/QUOTE]Bro. It's you who's missing the point. If you're so much financially smarter than us, just enjoy your superiority. But you keep denigrating us for enjoying an incredible time with a reliable, clean, sober, healthy provider who provides a fully interactive session. If I'm willing to pay more to enjoy a well prepared ribeye steak, than what you pay for a quarter pounder with cheese, just let me. I have spent enough money on providers in filthy rooms, or who didn't shower from the last client, or who are high, or just plain fat and disgusting, or who ghost me on the appointment time, to know that I'm willing to pay more for a known commodity that is willing to give me a session I want. Just let me do that. And go ahead and feel smugly superior because you're grandfathered in at a lower rate. Your obsession with feeling you are the voice of reason here is counter to what this forum is all about. This isn't about you reviewing our reviews. So please just stop. And you aren’t going to “unionize” us so we boycott providers who charge more than your communist manifesto feels we should pay. So move on, stop bitching about how stupid we are to pay more than your historical fee chart says we should. Recognize we are a free market society here. I feel I get value and bang for the buck when I see CJ, and others. I can choose where my money goes. Right comrade?

Go see Honey and enjoy her. I won't because she's not my cup of tea, but I don't feel a need to contradict your reviews just because I found odors I don't relish when I visited her. I'm thrilled you enjoy the experience with her. I'm not a QV guy, so the half hour is my minimum and I always get my full time with CJ. I've learned to pace myself to get the full workout and the payoff is so good. She just never fails to exceed my expectations. Can you just let me enjoy that? Thanks in advance for stopping the reviews of our reviews.

Well said, Fig. Thanks for posting.

[QUOTE=Figment;7411908]Bro. It's you who's missing the point. If you're so much financially smarter than us, just enjoy your superiority. But you keep denigrating us for enjoying an incredible time with a reliable, clean, sober, healthy provider who provides a fully interactive session. If I'm willing to pay more to enjoy a well prepared ribeye steak, than what you pay for a quarter pounder with cheese, just let me. I have spent enough money on providers in filthy rooms, or who didn't shower from the last client, or who are high, or just plain fat and disgusting, or who ghost me on the appointment time, to know that I'm willing to pay more for a known commodity that is willing to give me a session I want. Just let me do that. And go ahead and feel smugly superior because you're grandfathered in at a lower rate. Your obsession with feeling you are the voice of reason here is counter to what this forum is all about. This isn't about you reviewing our reviews. So please just stop. And you arent going to unionize us so we boycott providers who charge more than your communist manifesto feels we should pay. So move on, stop bitching about how stupid we are to pay more than your historical fee chart says we should. Recognize we are a free market society here. I feel I get value and bang for the buck when I see CJ, and others. I can choose where my money goes. Right comrade?

Go see Honey and enjoy her. I won't because she's not my cup of tea, but I don't feel a need to contradict your reviews just because I found odors I don't relish when I visited her. I'm thrilled you enjoy the experience with her. I'm not a QV guy, so the half hour is my minimum and I always get my full time with CJ. I've learned to pace myself to get the full workout and the payoff is so good. She just never fails to exceed my expectations. Can you just let me enjoy that? Thanks in advance for stopping the reviews of our reviews.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7411801]I know we are all degenerates but use your heads people. You don't need to post 18 messages saying CJ is amazing. Everybody myself included knows that. You're missing the point. Her service is top notch, pornstar experience level. My only minor gripe about her service is she doesn't swallow like a pornstar. Can't handle the juice LOL. My complaint is the price. I don't pay $250 to see her and neither should you. Funny how no one talks cost except a first poster saying you should get your finances in order if you think she's expensive. Never seen that before. No one is in their right mind to say she isn't good at what she does and she's one of the most entrepreneurial escorts I have met in the hobby with excellent communication. None of you have the balls to say $250 is too much for a visit that lasts at most 20 minutes. I will still fuck her, she has no clue who I am on these boards. Anonymity is your friend and I've never paid more than $200 and many times less to bang the same person. You're mistaking my posts as someone who is dogging someone but you overlook the many posts of people complaining about prices on others and don't see how they are related. If you don't pay what they ask, prices go down, including CJ. She could have retired years ago but what her ad doesn't say is she loves money more than sex. The only thing you're doing by posting the same shit about her over and over without including an actual experience or price paid is hurting the hobby in Grand Rapids. Escorts compare to others what the rates are and they gladly will charge more if people pay. If you can't see the difference in my posts and what I'm after that's your own problem.[/QUOTE]It's always funny to me when you admit I'm one of the best, but then complain about my rates, as if being good at what you do should somehow make you cheaper. That's not how it works in any field. A top-notch chef doesn't discount a meal because it's perfectly cooked, This isn't fast food, qit's a five-star experience, and that comes with five-star rates. Funny how no one complains when a steakhouse charges more than a drive-thru. and a mechanic doesn't charge less because they fix your car right the first time. Efficiency and quality increase value, they don't lower it.

You think being anonymous here gives you the upper hand, but let's be real, I'm still the one winning. You can hide behind a screen name all you want, but at the end of the day, you're still booking me. .

My rates are my choice, based on my time, effort, and experience, and judging by how often you think about me, I'd say they're worth every penny. Everyone values themselves differently. I just happen to want to make it worth my time. * And honestly, I'd love to know, how much would YOU charge to do my job? Because despite the fantasy, it's not always great sex with a hot partner on my end. Some days, it's actual work, and I still show up, keep it professional, and deliver the experience people expect. That's what they're paying for. If $250 feels too high, because you personally don't last a half hour, that 's okay; quality has never been for everyone.

The irony is, every time you bring me up, more people come looking to see what all the fuss is about. So please go ahead and keep the posts coming because every time you mention me, my phone lights up a little more. Free promo is still promo, darling.

And to Figment. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for recognizing the difference between price and value, they're not the same thing, and never have been.

I'm grateful for clients like you who understand that what I offer goes far beyond the surface. It's about reliability, consistency, and mutual respect.

At the end of the day, everyone's free to choose where they spend their time and money. I'll keep focusing on quality and the people who actually appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Benz1;7411890]If they aren't swallowing, I won't pay ten bucks. The whole point of this hobby for me is finding a woman who will do what my wife won't do. Swallow my load or I will find a woman who will.[/QUOTE]There are no emojis on this website- at least I haven't seen them. Regardless, this post made me laugh uncontrollably (in agreement) LOL.

[QUOTE=Cassidy69;7412079]It's always funny to me when you admit I'm one of the best, but then complain about my rates, as if being good at what you do should somehow make you cheaper. That's not how it works in any field. A top-notch chef doesn't discount a meal because it's perfectly cooked, This isn't fast food, qit's a five-star experience, and that comes with five-star rates. Funny how no one complains when a steakhouse charges more than a drive-thru. and a mechanic doesn't charge less because they fix your car right the first time. Efficiency and quality increase value, they don't lower it.

You think being anonymous here gives you the upper hand, but let's be real, I'm still the one winning. You can hide behind a screen name all you want, but at the end of the day, you're still booking me. .

My rates are my choice, based on my time, effort, and experience, and judging by how often you think about me, I'd say they're worth every penny. Everyone values themselves differently. I just happen to want to make it worth my time. * And honestly, I'd love to know, how much would YOU charge to do my job? Because despite the fantasy, it's not always great sex with a hot partner on my end. Some days, it's actual work, and I still show up, keep it professional, and deliver the experience people expect. That's what they're paying for. If $250 feels too high, because you personally don't last a half hour, that 's okay; quality has never been for everyone.

The irony is, every time you bring me up, more people come looking to see what all the fuss is about. So please go ahead and keep the posts coming because every time you mention me, my phone lights up a little more. Free promo is still promo, darling.

And to Figment. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for recognizing the difference between price and value, they're not the same thing, and never have been.

I'm grateful for clients like you who understand that what I offer goes far beyond the surface. It's about reliability, consistency, and mutual respect.

At the end of the day, everyone's free to choose where they spend their time and money. I'll keep focusing on quality and the people who actually appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Let's be honest dear we aren't talking 5 star restaurants this is Grand Rapids. I will continue to remind clients that it is we who set the price. Not you. If clients don't pay rates will go down, including yours. But you are the unicorn in this board because we probably should be taking financial advice by you. Clearing 6 figures easily a year tax free right? Charge what you want. Others message me wanting to pay less can I get a credit if I refer to you? Or at least a cut if I'm getting you more business? Bean special? LOL. Figment always has kind words and it's lovely he goes out of his from across the state or wherever he lives to worship the women he sees without any mention of donation. That is true gentleman sacrifice there the likes of which I haven't seen since the infamous Gene2.

Since you asked, are we talking women or dudes? Probably lawyer rates, either way I'm getting fucked LOL.

[QUOTE=ExpressoJim;7411952]Well said, Fig. Thanks for posting.

.[/QUOTE]As much as I hate the analogy I simply see it the same as chosing a vehicle. I prefer American made luxury and I am willing to me pay for that.

If you prefer the cost of a Corolla then that would be your choice. I'll stick with my Cadillac thank you. Jk.

[QUOTE=Cassidy69;7412079]It's always funny to me when you admit I'm one of the best, but then complain about my rates, as if being good at what you do should somehow make you cheaper. That's not how it works in any field. A top-notch chef doesn't discount a meal because it's perfectly cooked, This isn't fast food, qit's a five-star experience, and that comes with five-star rates. Funny how no one complains when a steakhouse charges more than a drive-thru. and a mechanic doesn't charge less because they fix your car right the first time. Efficiency and quality increase value, they don't lower it.

You think being anonymous here gives you the upper hand, but let's be real, I'm still the one winning. You can hide behind a screen name all you want, but at the end of the day, you're still booking me. .

My rates are my choice, based on my time, effort, and experience, and judging by how often you think about me, I'd say they're worth every penny. Everyone values themselves differently. I just happen to want to make it worth my time. * And honestly, I'd love to know, how much would YOU charge to do my job? Because despite the fantasy, it's not always great sex with a hot partner on my end. Some days, it's actual work, and I still show up, keep it professional, and deliver the experience people expect. That's what they're paying for. If $250 feels too high, because you personally don't last a half hour, that 's okay; quality has never been for everyone.

The irony is, every time you bring me up, more people come looking to see what all the fuss is about. So please go ahead and keep the posts coming because every time you mention me, my phone lights up a little more. Free promo is still promo, darling.[/QUOTE]I loved this post and it is so CJ. Have been in the hobby for over 40 years (yes, pre internet LOL), have been a member of all the old boards and when appropriate shared my experiences on the open board as well as privately. I have never understood all this time spent complaining about rates. And I disagree with Bean, it is not us but the provider who sets the donation. If you can't afford or think it is isn't worth it (value) then move on.

As for CJ. IMHO she is worth double her rates. Man am I going to get hit hard for that comment LOL. Nevertheless, I stand by that opinion. I am an older gentleman from Lansing and whenever I find myself in GR I always make sure to spend some time pleasing and being pleased by this lovely lady and will continue to do so.

Can we please stop with all the demonizing now?

CJ is an awesome provider (I have never seen her, only dreamt of her in my sleep.) In these times when providers are scamming or flaking or not being consistent with their services, CJ simply stands out. Respects the time and offers promised services. Simply the best in GR. Wish she did outcalls / incalls in Kalamazoo, but that's her choice.

TLDR: she is great 10/10.

[QUOTE=Figment;7411908] Go see Honey and enjoy her. I won't because she's not my cup of tea, but I don't feel a need to contradict your reviews just because I found odors I don't relish when I visited her. I'm thrilled you enjoy the experience with her. I'm not a QV guy, so the half hour is my minimum and I always get my full time with CJ. I've learned to pace myself to get the full workout and the payoff is so good. She just never fails to exceed my expectations. Can you just let me enjoy that? Thanks in advance for stopping the reviews of our reviews.[/QUOTE]Hey Figment you drove all the way over from across the state to see Honey and didn't bother to post a review? The people who use this board benefit from reviews both good and bad. Writing about an experience you have isn't contradicting another unless of course that experience wasn't real. There's no requirement to post every visit I am guilty of that as well just seems a little off base that in your defense of CJ you lowkey comment on someone I think is good. Curious if others have had a similar taste I have found her to always be fresh.

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;7412727]I loved this post and it is so CJ. Have been in the hobby for over 40 years (yes, pre internet LOL), have been a member of all the old boards and when appropriate shared my experiences on the open board as well as privately. I have never understood all this time spent complaining about rates. And I disagree with Bean, it is not us but the provider who sets the donation. If you can't afford or think it is isn't worth it (value) then move on.

As for CJ. IMHO she is worth double her rates. Man am I going to get hit hard for that comment LOL. Nevertheless, I stand by that opinion. I am an older gentleman from Lansing and whenever I find myself in GR I always make sure to spend some time pleasing and being pleased by this lovely lady and will continue to do so.[/QUOTE]USA?

Thank you my "Hedonistic playmate" LOL. I appreciate you. And no worries, guys, no price increase on the horizon, LOL.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7412451]Let's be honest dear we aren't talking 5 star restaurants this is Grand Rapids. I will continue to remind clients that it is we who set the price. Not you. If clients don't pay rates will go down, including yours. But you are the unicorn in this board because we probably should be taking financial advice by you. Clearing 6 figures easily a year tax free right? Charge what you want. Others message me wanting to pay less can I get a credit if I refer to you? Or at least a cut if I'm getting you more business? Bean special? LOL. Figment always has kind words and it's lovely he goes out of his from across the state or wherever he lives to worship the women he sees without any mention of donation. That is true gentleman sacrifice there the likes of which I haven't seen since the infamous Gene2.

Since you asked, are we talking women or dudes? Probably lawyer rates, either way I'm getting fucked LOL.[/QUOTE]I just stated five star because if you look up the definition of five star it literally states exceptional service and well reviewed, etc. It's no secret, honey, I do live pretty comfortably. That's a fair statement. But trust that Uncle Sam gets his cut too. Lord knows I spend too damn much not to claim any of it, LOL. Is there a problem with me living comfortably? Would you prefer I shoot the money up my arm? I really just don't understand why you fucking care?? And here. Just so that people stop bombarding you with messages regarding me, I will set the record clear right here for everybody to see that there is no Bean licker discount. No frenz of Bean special pricing. Shit, at this rate if he keeps putting my name out there everywhere he might price himself right out of a goddamn appointment will all these people happy to pay the $250. Nothing like biting your own ass. Seriously dude. Get a fuckin hobby and move along.

Regardless. I look forward to taking your $200 on your next day off. If I have the time. But no worries, I'll still deliver, just like I always do.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7412748]Hey Figment you drove all the way over from across the state to see Honey and didn't bother to post a review? The people who use this board benefit from reviews both good and bad. Writing about an experience you have isn't contradicting another unless of course that experience wasn't real. There's no requirement to post every visit I am guilty of that as well just seems a little off base that in your defense of CJ you lowkey comment on someone I think is good. Curious if others have had a similar taste I have found her to always be fresh.[/QUOTE]People always ask me if I ever deal with weird situations or guys who get a little too obsessed. Well, here's your answer exhibit A.

At this point, I honestly have to laugh. You're spending more time analyzing my rates and clients than I do, and that's saying something. What's even funnier is that you don't even pay the rates you're complaining about. You're grandfathered in at an old price, remember? So what exactly are you mad about?

You've made it your full-time hobby to talk about me while still booking me, and that's where it stops being flattering and starts being a little unsettling. I don't know who you are, but I do know this: obsession disguised as critique is still obsession.

So here's the deal, if you don't like me, don't see me. If you do, then act like it and stop hiding behind a screen name. Either way, you're giving me more attention than I've ever asked for. And honestly, that says everything.

[QUOTE=Moonglow913;7412727]I loved this post and it is so CJ. Have been in the hobby for over 40 years (yes, pre internet LOL), have been a member of all the old boards and when appropriate shared my experiences on the open board as well as privately. I have never understood all this time spent complaining about rates. And I disagree with Bean, it is not us but the provider who sets the donation. If you can't afford or think it is isn't worth it (value) then move on.

As for CJ. IMHO she is worth double her rates. Man am I going to get hit hard for that comment LOL. Nevertheless, I stand by that opinion. I am an older gentleman from Lansing and whenever I find myself in GR I always make sure to spend some time pleasing and being pleased by this lovely lady and will continue to do so.[/QUOTE]Exactly! I may have champagne taste on a cheap wine budget, but I would never presume to tell a lady what I think she's worth. She has a price, and either I can afford it, or I can't. Negotiating is insulting to the ladies, and I would think the resulting date would be less than stellar.

[QUOTE=Cassidy69;7413158]People always ask me if I ever deal with weird situations or guys who get a little too obsessed. Well, here's your answer exhibit A.

At this point, I honestly have to laugh. You're spending more time analyzing my rates and clients than I do, and that's saying something. What's even funnier is that you don't even pay the rates you're complaining about. You're grandfathered in at an old price, remember? So what exactly are you mad about?

You've made it your full-time hobby to talk about me while still booking me, and that's where it stops being flattering and starts being a little unsettling. I don't know who you are, but I do know this: obsession disguised as critique is still obsession.

So here's the deal, if you don't like me, don't see me. If you do, then act like it and stop hiding behind a screen name. Either way, you're giving me more attention than I've ever asked for. And honestly, that says everything.[/QUOTE]This post doesn't concern you stay in your lane and let the person I responded to reply. It was about Honey not you no need to make it about you. My part time hobby is to see women report about it and share what I pay. It's strange to me that others post about women and don't share price or service. I really don't care if it gets you more business or not you and others miss that point.

Hello, I am super new to all of this, but am looking to set up a dream here in the next day or so. Is there any advice you all would give to a newbie? Before you jump down my throat, yes, I have read all the posts in the newbie guide. I am just nervous about setting it all up due to it being my first time ever.

[QUOTE=Fluidfiller69;7418018]Hello, I am super new to all of this, but am looking to set up a dream here in the next day or so. Is there any advice you all would give to a newbie? Before you jump down my throat, yes, I have read all the posts in the newbie guide. I am just nervous about setting it all up due to it being my first time ever.[/QUOTE]On the main Grand Rapids page scroll down to user blog and read the New Member Guide. Start on the older pages and work backwards. It may be getting a little dated on topics but still useful. Then read the boards, learn to search here and do your research. This thread is the fight thread, if you can't find an answer to your question turn post it under the General Reports. Escort Reports we should try to keep it to just that so you can find reviews easily. My recommendation is to start with someone well reviewed before taking the plunge. Everyone's expectations and likes and opinions are different, so this community provides information. It's up to you to take advantage of it and hopefully contribute with your own reviews.

[QUOTE=Fluidfiller69;7418018]Hello, I am super new to all of this, but am looking to set up a dream here in the next day or so. Is there any advice you all would give to a newbie? Before you jump down my throat, yes, I have read all the posts in the newbie guide. I am just nervous about setting it all up due to it being my first time ever.[/QUOTE]If you're this nervous, you should start by visiting a massage parlor and dip your toe in to make sure this is for you. Go to one of the places that show up on boards all the time. Start with 30 minute massage and get a HE. Get one or two, heck maybe three and read and continue to follow who is trending in the escort section. Start to learn names of who is recommended. After you are a little more comfortable, then make plans to see an escort. Again, start with a SS and figure out what is best for you.

Be smart and be safe.

[QUOTE=DoIt161;7421196]If you're this nervous, you should start by visiting a massage parlor and dip your toe in to make sure this is for you. Go to one of the places that show up on boards all the time. Start with 30 minute massage and get a HE. Get one or two, heck maybe three and read and continue to follow who is trending in the escort section. Start to learn names of who is recommended. After you are a little more comfortable, then make plans to see an escort. Again, start with a SS and figure out what is best for you.

Be smart and be safe.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. Exactly how I got started many moons ago!

Hi has anyone seen tiny I don't see a skip the games account yet I know she's been out of the kent county hotel for a little while now but hasn't contacted me which usually I see her as soon as she gets out. If anyone has information or digits can message me thanks.

[QUOTE=Tazz51;7438509]Hi has anyone seen tiny I don't see a skip the games account yet I know she's been out of the kent county hotel for a little while now but hasn't contacted me which usually I see her as soon as she gets out. If anyone has information or digits can message me thanks.[/QUOTE]Looks like she is now at the Isabella Inn.

I wish! Gene might have pissed off most people here and wrecked his chances with every pussy he ever paid except CJ but that guy must have gotten way more ass than me! Must be the fresh breath.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7445272]I wish! Gene might have pissed off most people here and wrecked his chances with every pussy he ever paid except CJ but that guy must have gotten way more ass than me! Must be the fresh breath.[/QUOTE]Gene if you are reading this you will forever be my sensei! LOL.

FWIW, it seems like people are being really bitchy lately and I think that can push people away from the boards. Who wants to post when people constantly snip at you?

I have a review that I'm definitely going to post but half the time I log in, I read the constant criticisms of other people's reviews, and I just log out and do something else.

Members like JustKreepin add a TON of good info to the GR forum. Others as well. I know the whole world is hardwired these days to nitpick everything. But let's do better.

-ODB.

[QUOTE=OhDirtyBastard;7454060]FWIW, it seems like people are being really bitchy lately and I think that can push people away from the boards. Who wants to post when people constantly snip at you?

I have a review that I'm definitely going to post but half the time I log in, I read the constant criticisms of other people's reviews, and I just log out and do something else.

Members like JustKreepin add a TON of good info to the GR forum. Others as well. I know the whole world is hardwired these days to nitpick everything. But let's do better.

-ODB.[/QUOTE]Wow! JK might have more fans than CJ at this point! I admit I do agree his insight has been beneficial to me at times. I just forgot the world is getting soft and it's frowned upon to make fun now.

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7454112]Wow! JK might have more fans than CJ at this point! I admit I do agree his insight has been beneficial to me at times. I just forgot the world is getting soft and it's frowned upon to make fun now.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that is a perfect illustration of what I meant to say. You start with a backhanded compliment. Then you throw in a seemingly sincere one. And you end with a passive aggressive theory about the world where you are special while everyone else is soft and can't take a joke.

There was a member active on the boards until about a month before you joined, named DJBiker. He had a similar worldview. It got exhausting sometimes. I think shit posting is actually funny when it happens in moderation. Poking fun can be hilarious when it happens occasionally.

But I'm not even talking about "making fun". I'm talking about people just being shitty, bitchy Karens. Maybe we keep that here in the Pugilist section? Because the other sections have too much Karen behavior and it's probably reducing the number of people doing actual reviews.

-ODB.

This was honestly fucking hilarious.

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7454137]This sucks. Thanks for the update! Good for her tho.

1st Jasmine and now Julia Smh at this rate Charlie in BC will be all that's left in GR.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OhDirtyBastard;7454060]FWIW, it seems like people are being really bitchy lately and I think that can push people away from the boards. Who wants to post when people constantly snip at you?

I have a review that I'm definitely going to post but half the time I log in, I read the constant criticisms of other people's reviews, and I just log out and do something else.

Members like JustKreepin add a TON of good info to the GR forum. Others as well. I know the whole world is hardwired these days to nitpick everything. But let's do better.

-ODB.[/QUOTE]Go to other cities or review boards and you won't get this. They post what they paid, services offered, recommendations to help others. Grand Rapids is a hostile board thanks to years of a few people trying to maintain some sort of status quo to the eyes of their esteemed hookers. These same people will flock to other locations to promote and entice the local horny degenerates to pay extra because she's worth it. Escorts don't want the transparency. It isn't about uncle LEO it's because they know if some guy says he paid $150 to fuck her and get a BBBJ then everyone will ask for that. Every person should know YMMV but this is not a race to outbid a fellow degenerate. It's to establish a reasonable rate and service returned.

A great recent example is Jay mentioning someone who was awesome and not on my radar. He left out cost but provided it later and the woman added more details with services and prices. I will be fucking her within the week thanks to that post and it didn't take 14 messages spanning days about how I need to approach her or treat her special or why I should gift my vacation property to her. Many posts in this forum overcomplicates why we are all here in the first place.

[QUOTE=OhDirtyBastard;7454467]Thanks, that is a perfect illustration of what I meant to say. You start with a backhanded compliment. Then you throw in a seemingly sincere one. And you end with a passive aggressive theory about the world where you are special while everyone else is soft and can't take a joke.

There was a member active on the boards until about a month before you joined, named DJBiker. He had a similar worldview. It got exhausting sometimes. I think shit posting is actually funny when it happens in moderation. Poking fun can be hilarious when it happens occasionally.

But I'm not even talking about "making fun". I'm talking about people just being shitty, bitchy Karens. Maybe we keep that here in the Pugilist section? Because the other sections have too much Karen behavior and it's probably reducing the number of people doing actual reviews.

-ODB.[/QUOTE]If grown men are hesitant about leaving reviews because of what other men might have to say I don't know what to tell you other then all my hope is lost. We need people who can think for themselves on this board and not followers who white knight other mongers. We are all strangers here get a grip.

And while you were checking out my post history did you notice yesterday was the only day since I've joined that I've stirred the pot? Please get off my nuts.

Do people not realize the more they post about someone defending or trying to cast shame the more it brings attention to the very thing they don't want discussed? There is a way to report a post you don't like. Idc whether CJ got banned or not I found it funny and am curious what she posted to get banned. Admins are very sensitive to what providers post here as they should be. The forums are for degenerates to post about all their fucking escapades and what they paid. Many of you don't care to share the $ part but love to jump in and give your 2 cents. If a post goes against the forum rules report it. So go fuck CJ to your hearts desire just know it shouldn't cost you $250 if it costs many other less!

You would think they were married to her the way they defend her LOL and I never understood casting shame on a hooker board. I'm probably the youngest person here, single and free to fuck whoever I want but majority of yall are cheating on your wives LOL where's the shame in that?

And I agree. Everyone should be paying the same fair rate.

[QUOTE=BeanLicker;7496837]Do people not realize the more they post about someone defending or trying to cast shame the more it brings attention to the very thing they don't want discussed? There is a way to report a post you don't like. Idc whether CJ got banned or not I found it funny and am curious what she posted to get banned. Admins are very sensitive to what providers post here as they should be. The forums are for degenerates to post about all their fucking escapades and what they paid. Many of you don't care to share the $ part but love to jump in and give your 2 cents. If a post goes against the forum rules report it. So go fuck CJ to your hearts desire just know it shouldn't cost you $250 if it costs many other less![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7496937]I never understood casting shame on a hooker board.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JayJay2;7496937]I'm probably the youngest person here... majority of yall are cheating on your wives LOL where's the shame in that?[/QUOTE]Honestly, no shade, your post made me smile. I'm being real. You are my new favorite person on the hooker board.