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INGLEWOOD
4 arrested in prostitution sting
Four female employees at three Inglewood massage parlors were arrested this week on suspicion of prostitution during an ongoing undercover sting by police officers.
Officers posed as massage customers on Wednesday and arrested the employees on suspicion of solicitation for prostitution, maintaining a house of ill fame, identity theft and licensing violations.
The three parlors were: Royal Chiropractic Therapy at 401 S. La Brea Ave., Sue's Accupressure at 261 S. La Brea Ave. and Q Therapy at 321 E. Hillcrest Blvd.
The women arrested are Soon Hee Lee, 51; Leija Grisel, 23; Suzki Song, 39; and Jung Ja Lee, 67. All are from Los Angeles.
So does that mean yumi won't be working for awhile. Man, it sucks, inglewood used to be the shit there for awhile.
What happens to customers in a place during a bust? Assuming you're not caught in the act, can you get into trouble? Has anybody here ever been in a bust? I'm sure many of us are wondering about this. Any info would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=BadAssSilky]So does that mean yumi won't be working for awhile. Man, it sucks, inglewood used to be the shit there for awhile.[/QUOTE]
To quote one of my favorate movies: "No we are not going to play Stone Hinge tomorrow night!"
-Shark-
[QUOTE=B Malibu]INGLEWOOD
4 arrested in prostitution sting
Four female employees at three Inglewood massage parlors were arrested this week on suspicion of prostitution during an ongoing undercover sting by police officers.
Officers posed as massage customers on Wednesday and arrested the employees on suspicion of solicitation for prostitution, maintaining a house of ill fame, identity theft and licensing violations.
The three parlors were: Royal Chiropractic Therapy at 401 S. La Brea Ave., Sue's Accupressure at 261 S. La Brea Ave. and Q Therapy at 321 E. Hillcrest Blvd.
The women arrested are Soon Hee Lee, 51; Leija Grisel, 23; Suzki Song, 39; and Jung Ja Lee, 67. All are from Los Angeles.[/QUOTE]4 amps only 3 women, 1 of do-able age? What am I missing, I know the 67 year old wasn't doing extras, at least I hope not.
LE trying to cover there ass after letting them slide and getting extras during FBI surveillance ?
[QUOTE=Allover]What happens to customers in a place during a bust? Assuming you're not caught in the act, can you get into trouble? Has anybody here ever been in a bust? I'm sure many of us are wondering about this. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I've been caught in a bust before. I didn't get booked thankfully though. This was shortly before LP/LS went down.
At the time it seemed that LE was more concerned about making making us too scared to come back. No johns were arrested while I was there but they did threaten us A LOT. Who knows if this is the case all the time, but I'd rather not find out the hard way.
As for not being caught in the act. It didn't matter. I had finished and walked out when I saw LE in the room. I was trying to casually walk out but they stopped me. There were others who were caught in the act, and others who had just walked in and were sitting waiting when LE came in.
That one time was pretty much enough to keep me out of the 'wood since. I have been back under a handful of times and it was against my better judgment.
I'm guessing they pressure you to admit guilt. They're not above lying either. I read once that a cop (not Inglewood) once told a monger that the girl told the truth in an attempt to get him to admit wrongdoing. The cop told the monger if you tell the truth, it will be easier for you. If you lie you go to jail and your family is informed. Now that's pressure.
I have read here that it is best not to ever, ever admit guilt unless you are caught in the act. You are visiting a massage parlor licensed by the city and you only want a massage. Would the girls ever squeal on you to make it easier for them?
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I had business in San Pedro last Saturday and thought I'd check out the local talent. Had some leads with me but they didn't pan out. Desperate now I picked up the DB to see what I could find. On my home back up the 405 I called one then another and then another. It wasn't until I got to Gardena that I hit pay dirt.
Old woman in a white coat answered the door. She told me it was 50/30 and 80/60. I asked if she was doing the massage, she laughed and said no. Thank god! I paid for 30 minutes and she told me to get ready.
In walks this beauty, we exchange hellos and names while she is rubbing my ass. Nice. She then started kissing my ears, neck and back then down to my ass pulled my cheeks apart while she played with the guys. I have my hands all over her.
She asked me if I wanted everything and I said yes. She held out her hands and I asked her how much. She said "You know". I told her I didn't because I wasn't from around here and asked "$80?", she shook her head no, "$100", she smiled. I gave her the cash, sat on the edge of the table and watched as she took off her clothes. WOW! What a nice little body!
Great section with a great girl. CBJ while I was sitting on the table, 69, mesh, finished doggie.
Her name is Mimi, Korean, she wouldn't tell me her age but hinted she was around 30, I guessed 22-24, maybe 5'-5'2", 85-95 pounds. The face of an angel, the performance of a woman and a body of a 16 year old.
She asked me to come back and I told her I couldn't because it was to far from my house. Then she told me she worked at another place on SM Blvd. and asked if that was closer. I told her it was and she gave me the address and the days she worked there. That's still kind of far but I just might go and see her there.
RaNG
[QUOTE=Allover]I'm guessing they pressure you to admit guilt. They're not above lying either. I read once that a cop (not Inglewood) once told a monger that the girl told the truth in an attempt to get him to admit wrongdoing. The cop told the monger if you tell the truth, it will be easier for you. If you lie you go to jail and your family is informed. Now that's pressure.
I have read here that it is best not to ever, ever admit guilt unless you are caught in the act. You are visiting a massage parlor licensed by the city and you only want a massage. Would the girls ever squeal on you to make it easier for them?[/QUOTE]
yes, it is not illegal for the cops to do this (ie: to lie to try and get you to confess). if they can't prove anything, you are best to just be very polite -- admit no wrongdoing and play dumb (ie: i just wanted a massage, is there something else that goes on here?). if they become aggressive/assholes, politely repeat that you have no idea what this is about and you have done nothing wrong and that you would like to leave and if that is not possible you would like to call your attorney.
[QUOTE=Monster Cock]yes, it is not illegal for the cops to do this (ie: to lie to try and get you to confess). if they can't prove anything, you are best to just be very polite -- admit no wrongdoing and play dumb (ie: i just wanted a massage, is there something else that goes on here?). if they become aggressive/assholes, politely repeat that you have no idea what this is about and you have done nothing wrong and that you would like to leave and if that is not possible you would like to call your attorney.[/QUOTE]
Okay, this issue comes up every time this happens.
While I am not a criminal attorney (I am civil litigation), I am know a lot of them, and have hired several for some of the working girls I know, owners, mangers, and johns who got busted. The deal is, the cops usually don't care about collaring the johns, and even with respect to the girls, they will arrest them in order to try to get them to sing in exchange for a misdemeanor charge of solicitation instead of a criminal solicitation-type charge, so they can just pick up trash in an orange vest for a weekend, and get probation.
The Pigs know that some of these girls have been arrested several times, and it is no big deal for them to get arrested again (even though they tend to get upset and cry each time as girls do). Thus, the cops will just pick the girls up, take them in, and try to coax them to talk while they are in the cooler for the night. These girls know not to talk, so they can get out and earn a living at the same place, if it is still open, or another place, and not have the rep. for beeing a stool pigeon.
With respect to the johns, the cops' goal is the same, but a little different tactic is used. While what Monster says may be legally true, it MAY, or MAY NOT, be the best way to get home that night to see your wife and kids without incident. What the cops do usually with the johns is that they know that your greatest concern is NOT to be arrested, and have your wife or friend come to bail you out, and have to appear on a solicitation charge later that goes on your record. So they use this, and they give you a strange delima.
The delimma the cops give is: give up your 5th amendment right, and "tell the truth" about what is going on, or if you play dumb, or give some BS story about just being there for a message, they will arrest and prosecute. And yes, they will lie, and tell you, for example, that the girl that you were with talked, and specifically mentioned you as somebody that paid to have sex. So, while it is legally correct to shut up, and exercise your 5th Amendment right, the cops position is that they will arrest you if you do so, even if you eventially can beat the wrap, after expending lawyer fees, getting divorced, etc. So what they did when Lapaz and LS were raided once a week, for example, is they would line the unfortunate johns who got caught when it went down, and offer this deal to them, talk, and tell them you paid for sex in the place, or let's go downtown where your wife can bail you out.
I know it is a backward delimma, and I don't know if I would talk. I probably would shut up and go to jail if that is what it took, but my personal situation would allow that. But for some of you folks who have wives and GFs who would not understand having to bail you out after being in the cooler for the night, it is a hard choice.
-Shark-
[QUOTE=Shark in OC]Okay, this issue comes up every time this happens.
While I am not a criminal attorney (I am civil litigation), I am know a lot of them, and have hired several for some of the working girls I know, owners, mangers, and johns who got busted. The deal is, the cops usually don't care about collaring the johns, and even with respect to the girls, they will arrest them in order to try to get them to sing in exchange for a misdemeanor charge of solicitation instead of a criminal solicitation-type charge, so they can just pick up trash in an orange vest for a weekend, and get probation.
The Pigs know that some of these girls have been arrested several times, and it is no big deal for them to get arrested again (even though they tend to get upset and cry each time as girls do). Thus, the cops will just pick the girls up, take them in, and try to coax them to talk while they are in the cooler for the night. These girls know not to talk, so they can get out and earn a living at the same place, if it is still open, or another place, and not have the rep. for beeing a stool pigeon.
With respect to the johns, the cops' goal is the same, but a little different tactic is used. While what Monster says may be legally true, it MAY, or MAY NOT, be the best way to get home that night to see your wife and kids without incident. What the cops do usually with the johns is that they know that your greatest concern is NOT to be arrested, and have your wife or friend come to bail you out, and have to appear on a solicitation charge later that goes on your record. So they use this, and they give you a strange delima.
The delimma the cops give is: give up your 5th amendment right, and "tell the truth" about what is going on, or if you play dumb, or give some BS story about just being there for a message, they will arrest and prosecute. And yes, they will lie, and tell you, for example, that the girl that you were with talked, and specifically mentioned you as somebody that paid to have sex. So, while it is legally correct to shut up, and exercise your 5th Amendment right, the cops position is that they will arrest you if you do so, even if you eventially can beat the wrap, after expending lawyer fees, getting divorced, etc. So what they did when Lapaz and LS were raided once a week, for example, is they would line the unfortunate johns who got caught when it went down, and offer this deal to them, talk, and tell them you paid for sex in the place, or let's go downtown where your wife can bail you out.
I know it is a backward delimma, and I don't know if I would talk. I probably would shut up and go to jail if that is what it took, but my personal situation would allow that. But for some of you folks who have wives and GFs who would not understand having to bail you out after being in the cooler for the night, it is a hard choice.
-Shark-[/QUOTE]
i guess it does depend on your circumstances and those of how you got caught (ie: in the act or did you just walk into the place -- you have very different leverage in each).
the net for me though is i would never, ever, ever, ever admit a crime if i knew it could not be proven. that is just 101 stuff. talk to any attorney, they will all say "SHUT UP" when it comes to dealing with cops (in any situation). just be polite, calm and ask to call your lawyer.
[QUOTE=Monster Cock]i guess it does depend on your circumstances and those of how you got caught (ie: in the act or did you just walk into the place -- you have very different leverage in each).
the net for me though is i would never, ever, ever, ever admit a crime if i knew it could not be proven. that is just 101 stuff. talk to any attorney, they will all say "SHUT UP" when it comes to dealing with cops (in any situation). just be polite, calm and ask to call your lawyer.[/QUOTE]
My point is, they do this to the guys no matter whether they were caught in the act, getting a legit message at the time, or just waiting to see a girl. What people don't understand is just how much power the cops have. Just take a look at the Rampart scandle.
The goal is to get you to give a statement that you paid to have sex in the place, basically in exchange for going home that nignt without having to be processed and bailed out.
Yes, as a lawyer, I would advise my own client not to say anything. But the cops give this delimma where they say you can go home if you would just confess, and guess what, they may tell you that, you may give them all the information they need, and they can still run you in.
My understanding from the guys this has happened to is that they were allowed to go home, with a promise never to go back to the place, and nothing further happened. I am sure then when LP and LS went down, they had a database full of statements from johns to bolster the other evidence they had against the Texas motorcycle madam who they altamately found out was the real owner.
-Shark-
I would hate for misleading legal advice to be posted on this board so I am going to add my 2 cents in the hope that someone with crim law experience can set the board straight. In my opinion, under no circumstances should a John say anything to LE. It's my understanding solicitation/prostitution is a misdemeanor, and as such, needs to be committed in front of the LE officer for an arrest to be made. Further, the statements from the John are hearsay, and unless the John is going to be subpoenaed to testify in court, the statements are likely only admissible against the John. I don't even think they are sufficient to get a warrant. If the John does admit to an offense, he stands the chance of (1) being arrested and charged; and/or (2) being subpoenaed to testify as a witness in the trial of the provider. If the John keeps his mouth shut, he will likely be released, after LE puts the fear of god into him. Of course, this is just my theory and may not reflect reality. Can someone who practices crim defense, or a prosecutor please set us straight?
I'll ask another question or two also.
1) Is it against the law for us to receive a massage while we or the girl is undressed?
2) Is there a law against visiting a "known place of prostitution" or a place otherwise known to be a criminal nuisance?
I think we all need to know what to do in case of a bust. I would fully expect the cops to be assholes. My experience with various inspectors and people empowered by the government is that they are usually assholes and will try to show off their power by pushing you around.