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[QUOTE=CookyJar;3863704]My report in the Houston Texas, Streetwalker Thread...
...I am sure there is some useable information (what to do when stopped by LE) somewhere within this report.
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]LEO smelled a monger. Even Black officers as you stated can smell deviant behavior.
Thanks Cookie for sharing the story and the descriptive detailed report. Seems Officer #3 was determined but lacked the intelligence to taken on Philly's finest monger! I know it wasn't the happy ending you desired but all in all I think we are all relieved it ended up ok.
It reminded me of a time about 10 years ago I picked up a SW in AC on Pacific Ave. It turned out being a police decoy. Once she made a call and described our location I realized it was trouble. A beat up car shortly followed and then a cruiser. I played it cool and dropped her off right while they were behind me and took off. I guess it's important to be prepared, don't say much and play it cool.
Runner.
[QUOTE=NvrStlPhilly;3868204]LEO smelled a monger. Even Black officers as you stated can smell deviant behavior.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CookyJar;3863704]My report in the Houston Texas, Streetwalker Thread.
I thought some of you here the Philadelphia area might be interested.
First, let me make one thing clear, I do not know why things worked out the way they did. As best that I can, I am trying to remember and report things as they happened. Somewhere, within this report is some good advice. Unfortunately, I don't know where or what it is.
After she left the room the first girl turned and walked to her left. I followed shortly thinking there must be an exit in that direction, I drove to the left. There was no exit to the left and just one exit out of the lot. Where had she gone, there was no alley, nothing. As I backed-up and turned around I saw the first girl walking on a balcony, just above my room. I didn't give her a second thought as I exited the Luxury Inn motel parking area and returned to the scroll.
When I had first located the scroll and after I had spotted the first girl, I did a short look see around the neighborhood. Altogether I saw a small Hispanic looking spinner walking down the middle of the street, a big butt BSW crossing the street, a pawg sitting under a tree, a tall slim built mannish looking BSW, Evelyn and the first girl. After leaving the motel and the first girl, I did a search for the small spinner. Spinners are my preference, but I am always leary of girls walking down the middle of busy streets. I drove pass the big butt BSW and tried to get a better look at the PAWG, sitting in the shade on the other side of the road. Continuing down the street I intended to drive around the block and get a better view of the PAWG. Before I could reach the next cross street and make my turn, I saw Evelyn and she saw me. I turned, went around the block and stopped at the stop sign. Evelyn walked up and I decided, "why not. " Altogether, from my first arrival, I was on the stroll maybe an hour. That's not counting the time with Evelyn, in the motel.
(In an effort to make a long story short, I am going to forego and report on my time spent in the motel with Evelyn later when I post the rest of her pictures.).
We pick-up this tale as Evelyn and I leave the motel.
As Evelyn and I exited the motel parking lot, for no other reason than good driving, I looked to my left before turning right onto Crosstimbers Street. When I looked to my left all traffic was stopped at the light on Airline Drive. In all honesty, I cannot be 100% certain about cars parked in the lots or gas station to my right. I stopped at the light at Crosstimbers and the Service road before turning right. Again, I saw nothing unusual. At about two or three city blocks down the Service Road, at Riggs street, a black county cruiser lite me up. I was not sure he wanted me; I had done nothing wrong, so I turned right onto Riggs street, pulled over and stopped.
A black county law enforcement officer walked up to my driver's side window and asked for my driver's license. He stated that I had failed to use my turn signal when I had exited the motel's parking lot. Upon seeing my Pennsylvania driver's license, he asked me if I had Texas ID. I thought that unusual. If I had good Texas ID, wouldn't I have given it to him? If, for some reason I was being deceptive, would I suddenly just volunteered and give him another license? He then, without reason, asked me to get out of my vehicle and come back to his cruiser. After asking me to face his cruiser, he performed a quick pat-down and asked me if I had any weapons. After patting my down and with me still facing his cruiser he got into his vehicle. With my driver's license in his hand, I assumed he was using the police radio. He finished doing whatever he was doing and walked back to me. He asked my permission to search my car. This was a very unusual request for someone being stopped for a traffic violation. But! I gave him permission. Just before leaving the motel, I had asked Evelyn about her drug preferences and gambled that she had been honest when she said she was not holding. Very few crack users can hold onto drugs beyond a few minutes. He then walked to the passenger side of my car and engaged with Evelyn for about a minute, before bringing her out to the back of my car, where they talked and he took out a note pad and wrote something down.
With his note pad in his hand, he walked over to me and asked if I knew her named, and I answered "Evelyn. " He then asked if I knew her last name. I said, "No. " He asked me if I would know her last name if I saw it. I said, "No. " He asked me, "You know what it looks like?" I said, "It's a rental," thinking he was asking about the car. He replied in a rough voice, "Prostitution, it looks like prostitution. " He then took his little noted pad, walked back to Evelyn and walked with her to the passenger seat.
I was watching Officer #1, with Evelyn and did not notice the black, unmarked cruiser, with officers #2 and #3 pull up on the other side of Riggs St.
Officer#2 walked over to me and positioned himself on my left shoulder. He asked if I had anything sharp in my pockets, before checking the insides. After Officer #2 had checked my pockets, I asked him if I could get my cap out of back seat, because the sun light hurt my eyes. He said for me to wait a minute. Officer #3 positioned himself on my right between the back of my car and officer #1's cruiser. He said nothing.
Officer #2 moved to within an elbow's length and asked if he could search my vehicle. I said yeah and he walked to the driver's side, opened the door and bent over. After checking the front driver's side, he opened the driver's side back door and checked inside. My baseball cap, with Vietnam veteran emblem was on the back seat. After checking the driver's side, officer #2 walked back to my left side, without my cap and repositioned himself on my left side.
While Officer #2 was checking the cars drivers side, Officer #3 and #1, had Evelyn come back to the rear of my vehicle. Office #3 had her lift her bra from the bottom, so that everything dropped to the ground. Officer #3 seemed disappointed as he bent over, checked what had fell, picked-up her money that had dropped and returned it to her. After being searched and getting her money returned, Evelyn returned to the passenger seat.
The attention of all three officers turned to me.
Officer #3 positioned himself on my right and asked what I was doing in this neighborhood. I said I was lost and asking for direction. He guffed, "Do you think I don't know what's going on?" I said nothing. Officer #2, once again within an elbows length, asked, "So you just picked her up asking for direction?" I said nothing. Officer #1 had move right in front of me and asked was I on medication. I said, "Yes, for diabetes. " He asked what was in the metal key chain container. I said, "Metformin and glipizide. " Officer #1 almost yelled that I was supposed to have it in a prescription bottle. Officer #3 angrily asked, "Do you think I'm stupid. " And Officer #2 quickly added, "You came down there looking for dope or crack, right?" I replied, "No, I don't do drugs. " All three were standing around me backed up against the cruiser, waiting for me to say something. Without any explanation officer #1 handed me my driver's license and said, "I could get you for not having the prescription bottle. " As I took my license and walked pass officer #1, officer #3 said, "You'd better get rid of her, quick. " I said that I would drop her off down the street. Got in my car and got the hell out of there.
When I got into my vehicle, Evelyn was boo hooing, real tears, like a little baby. She kept saying, "They let me go," over and over again. At first she was just talking to herself. Later, on her phone, she said, "They let me go, they let me go...I don't know why, they let me go. " As we drove, without looking at me, she said, "Here's your phone," and placed my cell phone on the console between us. I dropped her off and that was that. Except for one last thing, later as I was driving, I noted that my $149 dollar airbuds were missing.
[INDENT] The stop was never about my not using a turn signal. They were more interested in searching and finding something. They crowded me, standing within elbow length, so that they could record me on the mikes hanging from their vest. According to Evelyn, they let her go even after finding a crack pipe in her purse. They never asked me where I was staying. No one ever asked for owners card or proof of insurance. There is, to my knowledge, no place that Officer #1 could have positioned himself to observe whether I had used a left turn signal when I left the motels driveway. He seemed to have been waiting for me to leave the motel (probably in the lot next door).
Why was I stopped? Why was I let go? They never checked Evelyns ID. Why?
It could have been a case of mistaken identity. The 2018 white jeep wrangler special addition, that I driving was nice, but not drug dealer nice. Officer #1 seemed genially surprised to see my PA drivers license and that I was from out of town.
I dont know what I did right or whether they did something wrong. Maybe I was just lucky. But! I never gave them any reason to be upset, nor did I give them any information suggesting that I was doing anything illegal. For the most part, I cooperated. I am certain that I was being recorded. [/INDENT]
I am sure there is some useable information (what to do when stopped by LE) somewhere within this report.
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]The traffic stop does not sound routine. First 3 officers were involved, that itself is unusual because it costs so much to have these guys patrol, 2nd the way you describe them they appear agitated and this probably has nothing to do with you, and 3 they are hyper focused on drugs, specifically crack. Obviously, we can't know for sure, but I'm guessing that the local precinct captain heard an earful from the community, group of business owners etc. "Capt, we see people smoking crack in front of school children" kinda hysteria. Capt wants to make everyone happy and keep his job, he assigns these 3 poor officers to a massive fishing expedition and they're not even sure what they're doing out there and they are agitated because they are not getting results and worry that capt will yell at them, so they go overboard with random questions, searches etc. Just a theory.
[QUOTE=Dinero;3870778]The traffic stop does not sound routine. First 3 officers were involved, that itself is unusual because it costs so much to have these guys patrol, 2nd the way you describe them they appear agitated and this probably has nothing to do with you, and 3 they are hyper focused on drugs, specifically crack. Obviously, we can't know for sure, but I'm guessing that the local precinct captain heard an earful from the community, group of business owners etc. "Capt, we see people smoking crack in front of school children" kinda hysteria. Capt wants to make everyone happy and keep his job, he assigns these 3 poor officers to a massive fishing expedition and they're not even sure what they're doing out there and they are agitated because they are not getting results and worry that capt will yell at them, so they go overboard with random questions, searches etc. Just a theory.[/QUOTE]They smelled a john with a hoe. John with Hoe equals drugs, dui, or illegal activity. Yes, LEO gets lucky and searches a car upon consent and is sometimes able to make an arrest. Some Johns think they are fooling everyone but are only fooling themselves. CJ and associates were too small of a fish to fry. Don't even think LE is "dumb". They know what went on and is going on. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
I'm not sure letting them search the car was a good idea. You're within your rights to say no although that may antagonize them and they could get a warrant if they invented some PC. I'd worry what I might've forgotten was in the car or what someone had dropped that I had no idea was there.
Regarding the pills, I don't think it a legal requirement that they be in the original containers or else they could bust every old person who uses one of those daily pill holders.
Glad it worked out reasonably well!
Jack.
[QUOTE=CookyJar;3863704]My report in the Houston Texas, Streetwalker Thread.
I thought some of you here the Philadelphia area might be interested.
First, let me make one thing clear, I do not know why things worked out the way they did. As best that I can, I am trying to remember and report things as they happened. Somewhere, within this report is some good advice. Unfortunately, I don't know where or what it is.
After she left the room the first girl turned and walked to her left. I followed shortly thinking there must be an exit in that direction, I drove to the left. There was no exit to the left and just one exit out of the lot. Where had she gone, there was no alley, nothing. As I backed-up and turned around I saw the first girl walking on a balcony, just above my room. I didn't give her a second thought as I exited the Luxury Inn motel parking area and returned to the scroll.
When I had first located the scroll and after I had spotted the first girl, I did a short look see around the neighborhood. Altogether I saw a small Hispanic looking spinner walking down the middle of the street, a big butt BSW crossing the street, a pawg sitting under a tree, a tall slim built mannish looking BSW, Evelyn and the first girl. After leaving the motel and the first girl, I did a search for the small spinner. Spinners are my preference, but I am always leary of girls walking down the middle of busy streets. I drove pass the big butt BSW and tried to get a better look at the PAWG, sitting in the shade on the other side of the road. Continuing down the street I intended to drive around the block and get a better view of the PAWG. Before I could reach the next cross street and make my turn, I saw Evelyn and she saw me. I turned, went around the block and stopped at the stop sign. Evelyn walked up and I decided, "why not. " Altogether, from my first arrival, I was on the stroll maybe an hour. That's not counting the time with Evelyn, in the motel.
(In an effort to make a long story short, I am going to forego and report on my time spent in the motel with Evelyn later when I post the rest of her pictures.).
We pick-up this tale as Evelyn and I leave the motel.
As Evelyn and I exited the motel parking lot, for no other reason than good driving, I looked to my left before turning right onto Crosstimbers Street. When I looked to my left all traffic was stopped at the light on Airline Drive. In all honesty, I cannot be 100% certain about cars parked in the lots or gas station to my right. I stopped at the light at Crosstimbers and the Service road before turning right. Again, I saw nothing unusual. At about two or three city blocks down the Service Road, at Riggs street, a black county cruiser lite me up. I was not sure he wanted me; I had done nothing wrong, so I turned right onto Riggs street, pulled over and stopped.
A black county law enforcement officer walked up to my driver's side window and asked for my driver's license. He stated that I had failed to use my turn signal when I had exited the motel's parking lot. Upon seeing my Pennsylvania driver's license, he asked me if I had Texas ID. I thought that unusual. If I had good Texas ID, wouldn't I have given it to him? If, for some reason I was being deceptive, would I suddenly just volunteered and give him another license? He then, without reason, asked me to get out of my vehicle and come back to his cruiser. After asking me to face his cruiser, he performed a quick pat-down and asked me if I had any weapons. After patting my down and with me still facing his cruiser he got into his vehicle. With my driver's license in his hand, I assumed he was using the police radio. He finished doing whatever he was doing and walked back to me. He asked my permission to search my car. This was a very unusual request for someone being stopped for a traffic violation. But! I gave him permission. Just before leaving the motel, I had asked Evelyn about her drug preferences and gambled that she had been honest when she said she was not holding. Very few crack users can hold onto drugs beyond a few minutes. He then walked to the passenger side of my car and engaged with Evelyn for about a minute, before bringing her out to the back of my car, where they talked and he took out a note pad and wrote something down.
With his note pad in his hand, he walked over to me and asked if I knew her named, and I answered "Evelyn. " He then asked if I knew her last name. I said, "No. " He asked me if I would know her last name if I saw it. I said, "No. " He asked me, "You know what it looks like?" I said, "It's a rental," thinking he was asking about the car. He replied in a rough voice, "Prostitution, it looks like prostitution. " He then took his little noted pad, walked back to Evelyn and walked with her to the passenger seat.
I was watching Officer #1, with Evelyn and did not notice the black, unmarked cruiser, with officers #2 and #3 pull up on the other side of Riggs St.
Officer#2 walked over to me and positioned himself on my left shoulder. He asked if I had anything sharp in my pockets, before checking the insides. After Officer #2 had checked my pockets, I asked him if I could get my cap out of back seat, because the sun light hurt my eyes. He said for me to wait a minute. Officer #3 positioned himself on my right between the back of my car and officer #1's cruiser. He said nothing.
Officer #2 moved to within an elbow's length and asked if he could search my vehicle. I said yeah and he walked to the driver's side, opened the door and bent over. After checking the front driver's side, he opened the driver's side back door and checked inside. My baseball cap, with Vietnam veteran emblem was on the back seat. After checking the driver's side, officer #2 walked back to my left side, without my cap and repositioned himself on my left side.
While Officer #2 was checking the cars drivers side, Officer #3 and #1, had Evelyn come back to the rear of my vehicle. Office #3 had her lift her bra from the bottom, so that everything dropped to the ground. Officer #3 seemed disappointed as he bent over, checked what had fell, picked-up her money that had dropped and returned it to her. After being searched and getting her money returned, Evelyn returned to the passenger seat.
The attention of all three officers turned to me.
Officer #3 positioned himself on my right and asked what I was doing in this neighborhood. I said I was lost and asking for direction. He guffed, "Do you think I don't know what's going on?" I said nothing. Officer #2, once again within an elbows length, asked, "So you just picked her up asking for direction?" I said nothing. Officer #1 had move right in front of me and asked was I on medication. I said, "Yes, for diabetes. " He asked what was in the metal key chain container. I said, "Metformin and glipizide. " Officer #1 almost yelled that I was supposed to have it in a prescription bottle. Officer #3 angrily asked, "Do you think I'm stupid. " And Officer #2 quickly added, "You came down there looking for dope or crack, right?" I replied, "No, I don't do drugs. " All three were standing around me backed up against the cruiser, waiting for me to say something. Without any explanation officer #1 handed me my driver's license and said, "I could get you for not having the prescription bottle. " As I took my license and walked pass officer #1, officer #3 said, "You'd better get rid of her, quick. " I said that I would drop her off down the street. Got in my car and got the hell out of there.
When I got into my vehicle, Evelyn was boo hooing, real tears, like a little baby. She kept saying, "They let me go," over and over again. At first she was just talking to herself. Later, on her phone, she said, "They let me go, they let me go...I don't know why, they let me go. " As we drove, without looking at me, she said, "Here's your phone," and placed my cell phone on the console between us. I dropped her off and that was that. Except for one last thing, later as I was driving, I noted that my $149 dollar airbuds were missing.
[INDENT] The stop was never about my not using a turn signal. They were more interested in searching and finding something. They crowded me, standing within elbow length, so that they could record me on the mikes hanging from their vest. According to Evelyn, they let her go even after finding a crack pipe in her purse. They never asked me where I was staying. No one ever asked for owners card or proof of insurance. There is, to my knowledge, no place that Officer #1 could have positioned himself to observe whether I had used a left turn signal when I left the motels driveway. He seemed to have been waiting for me to leave the motel (probably in the lot next door).
Why was I stopped? Why was I let go? They never checked Evelyns ID. Why?
It could have been a case of mistaken identity. The 2018 white jeep wrangler special addition, that I driving was nice, but not drug dealer nice. Officer #1 seemed genially surprised to see my PA drivers license and that I was from out of town.
I dont know what I did right or whether they did something wrong. Maybe I was just lucky. But! I never gave them any reason to be upset, nor did I give them any information suggesting that I was doing anything illegal. For the most part, I cooperated. I am certain that I was being recorded. [/INDENT]
I am sure there is some useable information (what to do when stopped by LE) somewhere within this report.
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JNimble;3873163]...Regarding the pills, I don't think it a legal requirement that they be in the original containers or else they could bust every old person who uses one of those daily pill holders.
[/QUOTE]Is Your Seven-Day Pill Box Illegal?
Posted on November 14,2017 by Rosenthal & Wadas.
Prescription drug abuse has emerged as a major public health issue in recent years, notably with respect to opioid painkillers like Oxycontin. But legally speaking, all drugs requiring a doctor's prescription are tightly regulated. If you are found in with any such drug on your person without a valid prescription, you can be arrested and charged with illegal possession of a controlled substance.
What Constitutes a Valid Prescription in Texas?
Under Texas law, only a licensed physician, dentist, podiatrist, or veterinarian, and certain optometrists may issue a prescription. In some cases, an advanced practice nurse or physician's assistant may also issue a prescription if he or she is under the supervision of a physician. The prescription itself must comply with certain labeling and packaging requirements.
For instance, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy requires prescriptions be dispensed in a childproof container (unless the patient requests otherwise) that bears a label with the name, address, and phone number of the dispensing pharmacy. The label must also list the date the prescription was filled, the name of the prescribing doctor, the quantity dispensed, and any instructions for use that is "easily readable" by the patient.
A prescription can only be refilled with a physician's authorization. The doctor may authorize one or more refills as part of the original prescription. But you cannot ask the pharmacist to give you any refills "in advance. " Prescriptions also come with a legal time limit, either six months or one year, after the expiration of which no remaining refills are valid.
In addition, there are certain controlled substances, known as Schedule II drugsincluding morphine, Ritalin, Dexedrine, and Percodanthat carry such a high risk of abuse that refills are legally forbidden. Instead, you need to obtain a new prescription in writing each time your doctor determines additional medication is necessary.
Can You Travel With Your Pills Without the Original Bottle?
It is a good idea to always carry your prescription drugs in the original container from the pharmacy. But some people decide to use a separate containersuch as a 7-day pill organizerto help keep track of their drug usage. While this is perfectly fine at home, it may carry certain legal risks while traveling.
Some states specifically forbid carrying prescription drugs in a "generic" or unlabeled container. Texas has no express law on this subject. The problem is that if you are stopped by the police and found in possession of your prescription medication outside of its original container, you can still be arrested for possession of a dangerous drug. This is a Class A misdemeanor in Texas, which carries a potential jail sentence of one year, in addition to a maximum fine of $4,000.
Of course, you are unlikely to actually be convicted if you can prove you have a valid, current prescription. If for some reason you do find it necessary to travel with your medications outside of their original containerfor example, if you need to take multiple drugs and it would be unwieldy to carry a group of bottlesmake sure you keep copies of your written prescriptions in your wallet or car. This way, if you are detained by the police, you can avoid a potential misunderstanding.
Keep in mind, however, that law enforcement does not have an automatic right to stop and search you for pills. Even in the context of a routine traffic stop, police must normally have probable cause before searching your vehicle without your consent. In other words, just because you have a broken taillight, that does not give an officer the right to demand you produce prescriptions for any drugs on your person.
[QUOTE=RecycleMikel6;3873990]Is Your Seven-Day Pill Box Illegal?
Posted on November 14,2017 by Rosenthal & Wadas.
Prescription drug abuse has emerged as a major public health issue in recent years, notably with respect to opioid painkillers like Oxycontin. But legally speaking, all drugs requiring a doctor's prescription are tightly regulated. If you are found in with any such drug on your person without a valid prescription, you can be arrested and charged with illegal possession of a controlled substance.
What Constitutes a Valid Prescription in Texas?
Under Texas law, only a licensed physician, dentist, podiatrist, or veterinarian, and certain optometrists may issue a prescription. In some cases, an advanced practice nurse or physician's assistant may also issue a prescription if he or she is under the supervision of a physician. The prescription itself must comply with certain labeling and packaging requirements.
For instance, the Texas State Board of Pharmacy requires prescriptions be dispensed in a childproof container (unless the patient requests otherwise) that bears a label with the name, address, and phone number of the dispensing pharmacy. The label must also list the date the prescription was filled, the name of the prescribing doctor, the quantity dispensed, and any instructions for use that is "easily readable" by the patient.
A prescription can only be refilled with a physician's authorization. The doctor may authorize one or more refills as part of the original prescription. But you cannot ask the pharmacist to give you any refills "in advance. " Prescriptions also come with a legal time limit, either six months or one year, after the expiration of which no remaining refills are valid.
In addition, there are certain controlled substances, known as Schedule II drugsincluding morphine, Ritalin, Dexedrine, and Percodanthat carry such a high risk of abuse that refills are legally forbidden. Instead, you need to obtain a new prescription in writing each time your doctor determines additional medication is necessary.
Can You Travel With Your Pills Without the Original Bottle?
It is a good idea to always carry your prescription drugs in the original container from the pharmacy. But some people decide to use a separate containersuch as a 7-day pill organizerto help keep track of their drug usage. While this is perfectly fine at home, it may carry certain legal risks while traveling.
Some states specifically forbid carrying prescription drugs in a "generic" or unlabeled container. Texas has no express law on this subject. The problem is that if you are stopped by the police and found in possession of your prescription medication outside of its original container, you can still be arrested for possession of a dangerous drug. This is a Class A misdemeanor in Texas, which carries a potential jail sentence of one year, in addition to a maximum fine of $4,000.
Of course, you are unlikely to actually be convicted if you can prove you have a valid, current prescription. If for some reason you do find it necessary to travel with your medications outside of their original containerfor example, if you need to take multiple drugs and it would be unwieldy to carry a group of bottlesmake sure you keep copies of your written prescriptions in your wallet or car. This way, if you are detained by the police, you can avoid a potential misunderstanding.
Keep in mind, however, that law enforcement does not have an automatic right to stop and search you for pills. Even in the context of a routine traffic stop, police must normally have probable cause before searching your vehicle without your consent. In other words, just because you have a broken taillight, that does not give an officer the right to demand you produce prescriptions for any drugs on your person.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info! I have prescriptions for various opiates and when I travel, domestically, I've always used a organizer rather than lug around the bottles. Won't be doing that anymore!
[QUOTE=CookyJar;3846359]I've had cousins, sisters and a couple of best friends. In my eagerness to remove another fantasy from my bucket list, I jumped at the opportunity for a date with Melissa and Devon.
CookyJar.
P.S.: I'm still having a ton of problems posting photos.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations Cookie. I love checking out your thread once a week or so. When I visited Philly, the advice here helped a lot.
I've never done what you did but I did have fun with the daughter of my girlfriend once when mom was passed out.
In case anyone gets the wrong idea, she was 19 at the time. Mom was 35 and I was 26.
Thank you cooky for all the work you put in. I wish I had the balls to do what you guys do but way too nervous. AMPs have been good to me but bad on the wallet. I digress but, keep up the great work!
Daisy is a cute Hispanic spin with a tight little ass and a great personality.
My understanding is that she has been hanging around the Huntingdon Station area for a while. At first, when I saw her on the street, she reminded me of Lil Michelle. They had similar body types and complexions. Daisy is a lot more upbeat and outgoing. There is no substitute for experience.
Although her street appearance is not all that appealing, she does stick out among the crowd, so I am sure others have seen her and probably passed her up. On the other hand, I am certain others have seen her and took the chance. Either way, I would like to hear from anyone who has seen her recently. My time with Daisy went a little further than the average car date and I would love a second chance at her firm little bubble butt.
CookyJar.
Okay! So maybe Hispanic girls with great asses and friendly personalities aren't your thing. I get that. She is not you cup of tea. I get it. That should not stop anyone from passing on a little general location information. If you have seen or have any information about this tight little Hispanic ass or this sweet little Hispanic clitoris, please pass the information on in the open forum.
You don't like this? How could anyone not like this?
CookyJar.
[QUOTE=CookyJar;3893483]Okay! So maybe Hispanic girls with great asses and friendly personalities aren't your thing. I get that. She is not you cup of tea. I get it. That should not stop anyone from passing on a little general location information. If you have seen or have any information about this tight little Hispanic ass or this sweet little Hispanic clitoris, please pass the information on in the open forum.
You don't like this? How could anyone not like this?
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I like it very much.
[QUOTE=Diegotralfaz;3895090]I like it very much.[/QUOTE]You and me both.
CookyJar.
[QUOTE=CookyJar;970657]Fbtom, I like you. I dont know you, but I like you. Ive gone back and read some of you old post and you seem like a pretty nice guy. After reading a few of your past post Id like to offer you a few suggestions. Take this hobby (mongering) for what it is. What it isnt, is a dating service. Its a game. Its a game with two sides. On one side there is the shirts thats us. On the other side there are the skins thats the girls. Do you see the pattern? No matter how you look at it, its the guys against the girls. The object of the game is to get what you want and for them to get what they want. Because a player can only win by ending up with what it is they want; it is very important to know from the start, for the players to know what it is that they want. You have many tactics at your disposal. However; before you can even have the slightest hope of winning the game you must find out where the goal posts are. This is not a team sport. Each individual sets his own goals. Youve got to know what it is [b][u]you [/u][/b]want.
Some players go down to Kensington Avenue to find a girl who will give them Porn Star sex. Most of us know what a porn star is. We know what porn is. What is Porn Star sex on a streetwalker stroll? For some it is as simple as getting something they cant get at home. For some it is as simple as getting a BBBJ. That for them, what porn stars do and their wife or girlfriend wont do. For others it has to be CIM. Why? Because at home he has to pull it out before he cums or shell have a fit if he get that nasty shit in her mouth. For most guys its just this simple. As long as they get a nut, accomplish the fantasy, they are happy and they win.
Some players go down to Kensington Avenue to find a girl who will give them Girl Friend Experience sex. I know what a girl friend is. I have had lots of girlfriends and lots of sex with them. In each case, with each girlfriend the sex was different. What exactly is GFE? Girl Friend Experience sex is probably the most sort after sex on Kensington Avenue. Yet I am willing to bet, the $10,000 SuperEloquent won in Atlantic City, that no two mongers can agree on what GFE really means. As a younger man I told my girlfriends that if they really loved me, theyd let me stick my dick in their ass. Does that mean Anal Fucking is part of the GFE? Some guys get upset if the girl wont let them stick their tongue in their mouth. Does DFK have to be part of a good GFE? What about DATY? What exactly makes for a good Girl Friend Experience?
It all boils down to the same thing. What are [b][u]you[/u][/b] looking for? What is it that [b][u]you[/u][/b] need in order to feel like [b][u]you[/u][/b] won the game? If you are looking for respect, love or a warm fuzzy feeling in your heart; be prepared for lots of disappointment. Neither Staci nor Alexus need any of the fore mentioned to win the game. They arent out on Kensington Avenue looking for dicks to suck or asses to kiss. Dick sucking and fucking are merely the tactics they use. In order to win the game all they really need to do is get [b][u]your[/u][/b] money. Sucking dicks, fucking and kissing ass are just a couple of the tricks they use. As their opponent youve got to expect that. If they think they can get more, they are going to try. They will take and continue to take for as long as they can.
Dont get me wrong. There is no need for you to be jaded. You can have a good time on the Avenue. Have some fun. Get your rocks off. Enjoy the game for what it is. Ideally She gets what it takes for her to win; a little of your money and [b][u]you[/u][/b] get whatever it is that [b][u]you[/u][/b] need to win. When everybody gets what they need, everyone wins, everyone is happy and it was a good game.
Its always going to be hit or miss. Thats life. If I hadnt gotten use to that, I would have probably shot my wife years ago.
:D
Your buddy,
CookyJar
PS: One more thing. Don't get all hung up with what others are doing. Most of them are lying or at the very least embellishing the truth. Play you own game.[/QUOTE]I originally posted this back in 2010. [POST=970657][b][u]Click on this link to see the original post and responses to, "What Exactly is GFE"[/b][/POST][/u] At the time I got a couple of pretty nice positive responses. However, none of the response address the original question: [B] What Exactly Is Girlfriend Experience (GFE)[/B]. What is it that we expect? Once again, I put it to the entire, USASexGuide open Forum. [U]What is the true meaning of, GFE (Girlfriend Experience)?[/U] or what is, in your humble opinion, qualifies as a true Girlfriend Experience.
CookyJar.
[QUOTE=Diegotralfaz;3895090]I like it very much.[/QUOTE]Pretty girl, and a great ass.