Sugarbabies and Arrangements

[QUOTE=BDingas;7071753]I typically like to do long term and exclusive arrangements but the past two I have caught the feels and They typically don't seem to work out much longer.

Should this really just be short term and on to the next ones, for most SBs they all seem to say they want long term and consistent, so why doesn't it work.

Curious to hear what you guys think.[/QUOTE]Just to be honest I think many have had problems with guys catching feeling and maybe getting unwelcome and close to their personal life. I think many want safe, consistent and long term. But see feelings as a red flag, time to bail before it hits to close to home. Whether or not it's disclosed many SBs have their own whole personal life situation, boyfriend, etc.

[QUOTE=BDingas;7071753]I typically like to do long term and exclusive arrangements but the past two I have caught the feels and They typically don't seem to work out much longer.

Should this really just be short term and on to the next ones, for most SBs they all seem to say they want long term and consistent, so why doesn't it work.

Curious to hear what you guys think.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I go into it with the mindset that if long term happens, that's a plus, but I always assume it's going to be short term. It's good to have back-ups in case something doesn't pan out. I was seeing a 23 year old SB for a few weeks and she was super insistent on wanting things to be long term, but after having that conversation she completely disappeared. You ultimately have to operate with an abundance mentality while doing this, because the ladies are doing that as well and are always trying to monkey branch to what they think are better options. In some cases it might be another monger / SD, but in other cases it could be them finding the relationship that they want, or their bfs / husbands are catching on, etc. Etc. And you always want to operate under the mentality that even though it might be over now, they could be back in the future.

The longest arrangement I had for an example, was off and on for years. Met her when she was 19 and in college and she's 25 years old and a nurse now with kids and a boyfriend. Still see her every now and then, but the way she operates is super inconsistent due to her living arrangements and I don't expect anything long term out of it. You just have to enjoy it when you can get it, build good rapport, and then be prepared to move on to the next one if things don't stay consistent.

[QUOTE=TheEndlessEdge;7072218]Honestly, I go into it with the mindset that if long term happens, that's a plus, but I always assume it's going to be short term. It's good to have back-ups in case something doesn't pan out. I was seeing a 23 year old SB for a few weeks and she was super insistent on wanting things to be long term, but after having that conversation she completely disappeared. You ultimately have to operate with an abundance mentality while doing this, because the ladies are doing that as well and are always trying to monkey branch to what they think are better options. In some cases it might be another monger / SD, but in other cases it could be them finding the relationship that they want, or their bfs / husbands are catching on, etc. Etc. And you always want to operate under the mentality that even though it might be over now, they could be back in the future.

The longest arrangement I had for an example, was off and on for years. Met her when she was 19 and in college and she's 25 years old and a nurse now with kids and a boyfriend. Still see her every now and then, but the way she operates is super inconsistent due to her living arrangements and I don't expect anything long term out of it. You just have to enjoy it when you can get it, build good rapport, and then be prepared to move on to the next one if things don't stay consistent.[/QUOTE]These sbs are not typical ppm but allowance with gifts and travel. So I am really surprised sometimes with what I am spending and they think the grass is greener. Current one is a 23 student.

[QUOTE=BDingas;7072291]These sbs are not typical ppm but allowance with gifts and travel. So I am really surprised sometimes with what I am spending and they think the grass is greener. Current one is a 23 student.[/QUOTE]Agree. These are different than escorts in that you can build a relationship if you have game. My longest was about a year, almost every week. Ages range from 20-45. Nice thing is everyone wants something a bit different to make them happy and it's not at all always $. Being a decent human, kind, thoughtful and generous gets you so far along. It helps that all of the ladies I dated were into older guys, like they never dated boys their age, like ever. They are not on drugs (except 420 for the most part). They have lives, jobs, dreams. Just need to get some traction financially. But more towards your statement, some of them indeed think the grass is greener based on several things.

TikTok.

Reddit.

Previous SDs.

So you can do everything right and they still wander away and honestly, that is part of the these relationships, they are open and NSA, either of you could get bored with the other. And that boredom happens. So my thought is to have at least 2 ladies in rotation, so if one bails, you have one while you look for you new backup.

Sending report in a few minutes so stay tuned.

Evey.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/64659f22-9429-4e0d-8b1d-506f4cd8b5e2[/URL]

I met her a while back, a bit thicker (not athletic) and asking 500. I did not partake.

Lana.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5a71af90-5392-4602-9c05-f750bd97b168?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

Met for drinks after work, nice girl, mom bod, ask is way out of line at 500.

[QUOTE=BDingas;7072291]These sbs are not typical ppm but allowance with gifts and travel. So I am really surprised sometimes with what I am spending and they think the grass is greener. Current one is a 23 student.[/QUOTE]"I'd rather try touching the moon than take on a *****'s thinking. " -Al Swearengen.

It doesn't matter what you're paying, how many trips you go on, how many gifts you give them the bottom line is they are women, and they are fucking you for money. Which makes them ******. They don't operate on logic, primarily emotions.

[QUOTE=Bikjik69;7072671]"I'd rather try touching the moon than take on a *****'s thinking. " -Al Swearengen.

It doesn't matter what you're paying, how many trips you go on, how many gifts you give them the bottom line is they are women, and they are fucking you for money. Which makes them ******. They don't operate on logic, primarily emotions.[/QUOTE]You're not wrong! LOL.

What's with the "platonic" relationship seekers on SA? Has that always been a thing or is it newer? I'd been off the site for a few years so I don't really remember. But I'm either reading profiles about wanting platonic only relationships, or The messages are that they're looking for friends. I've had two that say they're looking for friends, I tell them that's not what I'm looking for and allude to what I'm looking for, they go "okay thanks" or whatever, and that's it. I don't think it's anyone here, But are there really enough men out there giving these women money just To be their friends? To the point where these women are expecting that?

[QUOTE=TheEndlessEdge;7070533]I've seen some good ones in Erie. It used to be better a few years back during the early years of Seeking. I can suggest this one currently:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d4f76933-66ac-4b65-8b96-371d0123f38b[/URL] - She's willing to come to Cleveland. Pretty down to earth. I met her halfway though and ended up having a good time with her.

You'd be able to get some good ones in Erie if you played your cards right before a few years back. Ended up with some married women and a few divorcees. Good times. Now, it's a little dried up. My favorite was this one super tattooed 30 year old that would work at home. Used to see her every other weekend when she was off work.[/QUOTE]I agree with the one above (bad little baby) is real and we have been texting but not sealed the deal. Curious what ppm she was Ok with?

Watch out for this hot one, she did a cash & dash on me a year or so ago: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/edcd036e-8f5e-4a97-b898-5d3accabc53b[/URL].

[QUOTE=JasonDono;7073457]What's with the "platonic" relationship seekers on SA? Has that always been a thing or is it newer? I'd been off the site for a few years so I don't really remember. But I'm either reading profiles about wanting platonic only relationships, or The messages are that they're looking for friends. I've had two that say they're looking for friends, I tell them that's not what I'm looking for and allude to what I'm looking for, they go "okay thanks" or whatever, and that's it. I don't think it's anyone here, But are there really enough men out there giving these women money just To be their friends? To the point where these women are expecting that?[/QUOTE]Some girls are looking for the simp guys that think if they orbit long enough they'll get to touch a boob or something. There are enough pathetic guys these days that will try to work for a girls attention with nothing in return in that manner. Guys that think of a girl constantly whining that they need car repairs or the electric bill to be paid, as an opportunity, and that the girl will be grateful.

[QUOTE=FunLuvNgyy;7073881]Some girls are looking for the simp guys that think if they orbit long enough they'll get to touch a boob or something. There are enough pathetic guys these days that will try to work for a girls attention with nothing in return in that manner. Guys that think of a girl constantly whining that they need car repairs or the electric bill to be paid, as an opportunity, and that the girl will be grateful.[/QUOTE]I have been that guy. Learned and moved on. Never worked out. Say NO to advance too.

[QUOTE=JasonDono;7073457]What's with the "platonic" relationship seekers on SA? Has that always been a thing or is it newer? I'd been off the site for a few years so I don't really remember. But I'm either reading profiles about wanting platonic only relationships, or The messages are that they're looking for friends. I've had two that say they're looking for friends, I tell them that's not what I'm looking for and allude to what I'm looking for, they go "okay thanks" or whatever, and that's it. I don't think it's anyone here, But are there really enough men out there giving these women money just To be their friends? To the point where these women are expecting that?[/QUOTE]TikTok.

Reddit.

Instagram.

They all tell the girls that are new that they can find a man to pay them just for conversation. It's a lie, they buy into it, get upset when it doesn't work.

OF.

Chaturbate.

Tell women they can make tons of money. Turns out most don't make any money at all. Less than something like 2% make any worthwhile cash.

Some men are indeed simps, but most of it is girls expecting the platonic old man that just wants to talk and text for $.

[QUOTE=SR7D1;7075165]TikTok.

Reddit.

Instagram.

They all tell the girls that are new that they can find a man to pay them just for conversation. It's a lie, they buy into it, get upset when it doesn't work.[/QUOTE]I think the problem for us is that it DOES work. And so the site gets flooded with fakers, most of whom are not female at all, selling readily obtainable "content" and "online only" relationships. Or of course "girls" offering a date but only to lament she's out of gas or whatever dumbass thing to get a simp to give some money before the meeting that won't occur.

I think there are lots of newbs and hopeless guys that do this commonly, and each "female" account only needs to mine for them at a low percentage of success to con some easy money at almost no effort.

I have to admit, when I was in my 20's I was tempted to set up a fake profile and sell "content" of my g / f that I consistently collected, as if I were her. Would have made a fair bit I'm sure.

I've been on the site numerous times over the years and always see her profile. Have only ever heard she's a time waster. Recently joined again and she reached out to me eager to meet. Always wanted to see her. Anyone with info or do I need to TOFTT?

https://members.seeking.com/member/833ece92-e779-413a-9b33-e76bf0e9ad24

[QUOTE=Harrykurra;7009614]Anyone know this one? Looks like she's been on SA for a while.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59e1e829-bafc-410f-aa08-d8936aa45f36[/URL][/QUOTE]Curious as well. Currently texting trying to making plans.