Yup downsides of the strip clubs
[QUOTE=SamPerkins420;6771539]Went down to Michigan Ave yesterday afternoon to blow off some steam before the big (disappointing) game. Started at Bogie's then H8, nothing worth talking to at either, so I ended up at BT's. They had a much nicer selection, including Katie who I got freaky with last month, and a gorgeous eastern European who was onstage when I got there, but ran to a regular as soon as she got off. Also a tight Cuban girl who spoke no English, I saw her using translator app at another guy's table.
And then there was Crystal. Very light skinned black girl, tight petite body, great little bubble butt, very flat chest, couple tats but not a ton. He ass was so tempting as she shook it onstage, I tipped her a $5 and she came over after her set. When she sat down she immediately began rubbing me through my jeans and started negotiations. When asked she said she does "everything" and I made her clarify that it includes BJ & fuck. She made me throw out the first number, I said $120, she laughed and said minimum is $200 to get in her pussy. I agreed to $200 and again she said she'd suck & fuck for that.
Once we got in back she asked for the money, so I showed it to her and said its yours as soon as I cum. She had me "get comfortable" then sat in the chair, rubbed me hard & put on the condom. And kept saying "I'd be more comfortable if you give me the money now, I don't want to be ripped off. " Her CBJ game was outstanding, and I had already rubbed and fingered her puss a little bit before she got on her knees, so I said OK and put it in her hand, she put the money in her purse..[/QUOTE]Yeah man it happens. One of the downsides of mongering at sc's. At least with a hooker you can potentially get your money back but that's not really possible since hookers are strictly FS so no surprises. But you definitely don't want to do something to the dancers and end up on life support from the bouncers so you're right it's not worth it. Just ta.
Take the L, but you did mess up giving her the money upfront because you completely lost your power once she got what she wanted, now there's no obligation to fulfill the agreement because she knows there's bouncers and managers ready to fend for her. Just the way it is. But from now on do give money first. If she's not cool with it then fine but at least I'm not out of $200 bucks.
Henry's and Bogarts, Wednesday Days, Pro Body Works
It was a rainy day, so I decided to go check out the clubs, figuring there might be more dancers. Henry's was really dead and I think there was 10 dancers. There's was no one there that I see though. No Nicole, Cassie, Lauren or Sunflower. I saw that Yesna was working, although I've never been back with her. My understanding is that everything is covered with her and on top of that, she's expensive. Oddly, I didn't see any cuban dancers, but I wouldn't have gone back with any of them anyway, so, I was one drink and out, before heading to Bogart's.
There were quite a few more customers and dancers and although I saw and briefly talked to Pixie and Sandra, no deals could be made. Pixie is attractive but I don't feel a "click" with her and of course, everything covered. Even head. Sandra is an older bleached blonde with a very nice body. She's petite with hair a bit below her shoulders. Nice little ass and a pretty tight midsection. She had fake naturals, which looked pretty good but I'm not a tit guy and I especially don't like man made ones. Anyway, Sandra was the same, when it came to covers. Oh well. I'll probably end up going back out later in the day today. That way, if there's no one I see on days, maybe the night shift transition will have someone interesting.
On the way home, I detoured and went to Pro Body Works. I don't remember the name of the woman. Asian women keep their youth well but I'd guess her to be in her mid to late 50. Decent massage, decent finish. $120 total for the house and tip.
Scam artist -Mikayla at landing strip
Went to the landing strip and was approached by Mikayla. She is all hands on, rubbing all over, calling me sweetie, etc. Says she'll take great care of me in VIP, loves to fuck. Loves to suck. She's grabbing my dick. . kissing my neck.
So I negotiate first. FS, and bbj. She says 400. I say are we on a time limit, she says, just don't go over 30 min. I say let's go.
She strips down, starts sucking and then stops to collect payment. Everything is going good so I paid. She puts the hat on and we go for 1 min in doggy. I did look at my watch. Then she turns around and starts sucking. I say I need the hat off to come. She says, you must pay another 100 for that! I say wait, what about the deal? She says "and that is song two. If you go past the third song, it's another 200!
I say that's not what you said. She says I'm saying it now.
I argued again but mood was shot. So I zip up. And tell her that it's not nice being a liar and a scammer. The word will get out about you.
She's a dumpy short white 36 yr old with nothing special going for her body-wise, so I figured she was making up for it with good attitude and service. I was so wrong.
Beware.
Sorry the place was Flight Club. Not LS
[QUOTE=SGreg1234;7210726]Went to the landing strip and was approached by Mikayla. She is all hands on, rubbing all over, calling me sweetie, etc. Says she'll take great care of me in VIP, loves to fuck. Loves to suck. She's grabbing my dick. . kissing m
I argued again but mood was shot. So I zip up. And tell her that it's not nice being a liar and a scammer. The word will get out about you.
She's a dumpy short white 36 yr old with nothing special going for her body-wise, so I figured she was making up for it with good attitude and service. I was so wrong.
Beware.[/QUOTE]It was Flight club. Tell Mikayla to fuck herself for me.
Say it again for the people in the back
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7211505]GD,
I appreciate your sentiment. I think a little differently.
As long as guys have been paying before they were satisfied there were girls ripping them off. In fact the same girl who might rip a guy off might give me good service because she is looking to find the easiest way to get paid. If that is cheating a guy she will take it. If that is satisfying a guy she will do it. I could have made this same comment 10 years ago.
I don't think their are more rip off girls now than previously. If guys walk in to the VIP stuff dollars into a girls purse, they should have no expectation of being a satisfied. Sure there are few girls who won't cheat you. But paying in advance is asking to be cheated. And girls who say they want payment in advance are basically saying they intend to cheat you, even if they finish the service they rarely do it with the passion and sensuality of a girl who has not been paid.
When a girl asks to be paid in advance she is giving you a warning and an opportunity to end the session. If you are an experienced or lucky monger you may be able to convince her that the easiest path to cash is by providing the service she negotiated for in the main room. If you cannot persuade her of that, then do yourself a favor and cut you loss now.
I often time negotiate with a girl, reach and agreement with her. When we stand up to walk over to the VIP, I will say one more thing. You know I will only pay you at the end. I have had girls say no, I need payment up front so then I sit back down and wait for her to come over and negotiate some more. The best response I ever got from a girl when I said. I will only pay you at the end. The girl smiled sweetly at me and said you have been cheated before haven't you? She didn't even let me answer the question and says "Of course you can pay at the end I am not going cheat you". She reaches out grabs my hand and guides me into the VIP. True to her word she did not cheat me. True to my word I was happy to pay her at the end.
Many guys brains shut off when pretty girl talks to them or when carnal activities are in process. Work to keep your brain functioning and don't pay until end no matter what she suggests.
MM.[/QUOTE]If you take nothing else away from these discussions, take this and follow it like it's the lions on a winning season.
New girl at Players Raina
Worth mentioning. About a week ago, saw a 10 so my standards at Players named Raina. The most popular one there so I only got a few dances from her. Said she's from Washington DC and moved her with a friend.
White 5 ft spinner, probably 20, no tattoos, long blonde hair, great body with b cups, all natural minus some lip filler but that was the only MM part.
She up-charges for songs, but she knows why. Someone could probably negotiate if it's slower but she was upstairs all night. 3 for 100.
For me, lots of OTP, she kept kissing my face. I didn't exactly tests the waters though as I had other plans so I didn't get digits or any other info. She's really hot worth a visit if you're not in the total mood and she's there.
Depends. But definitely unlikely
[QUOTE=DetroitLife;7215631]Just wanted to add the disclaimer that there are no "extras" at this club.[/QUOTE]Not typically since the beads came down, but I've gotten lucky, but you've got to be super fast which ruins the mood so it depends on what you're doing.
I've been straight violated there by a buzzed dancer, but that's not my thing. Forcefully yanked out Jr so fast I hardly had time to react. Previously she had done something similar and used Jr OTP to get herself off after she licked every part of me. She's crazy though, has called me randomly to yell at me and ask for money.
Some will OTC but it's more than likely a hustle to get you to come back and not worth given the other available options.