[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7183428]I worked in Detroit 41 nights in 2024. I spent time with 15 girls and walked into the VIP 78 distinct times. 16 nights did 1 VIP, 16 nights I did 2 VIPs, 6 nights I did 3 VIPs, and 3 nights I did 4 VIPs.
I made 35 visits to BTs, 13 visits to Criket, 2 visits to Landing Strip. Numerous nights there were no girls in the first club I found satisfactory and I had to change clubs to get a girl, sometimes I had to check out 3 clubs or check out day shift and night shift to find a girl I wanted.
There are 4 types of girls.
Girls I would pay money to spend time with (7's, 8's, 9's).
Girls I would spend time with for free (4's, 5's, 6's).
Girls I would need to be paid to spend time with her (3's).
Girls I would not spend time with (1's, 2's).
I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. I start with girls who are 7's, 8's, and 9's that I get a boner watching her dance. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
Sometimes Criket looks like a club full of fat black girls and BTs looks like a club full of fat white girls, there are still enough spinners around that with patience I was successful in finding a few of them.
It does seem like the average age of dancers has risen to mid 20's to low 30's. With patience I was able to find a good number college age girls. 74 of my 78 sessions were with college age girls between the ages of 18 22 years old. The four remaining sessions where with girls ages 23 25.
Girls who are below a 7 I find are using their looks as a form of birth control.
Girls who do not hustle well and are not friendly use their personality as a form of birth control.
If she passes the looks and personality test then break out the condoms for birth control.
Many fewer girls seem to be doing Onlyfans and Seeking Arrangements since there is money in the strip club. Those other venues get increasingly crowded with scammers.
During the 41 nights I was in Detroit, I observed and tipped 14 girls that I found attractive enough to take to the VIP that I did not. The vast majority is because the girls never came over to talk to me after I tipped them. The remainder came and talked with me, and based on our conversation I decided not to go to the VIP with them. Basically, she used her personality as birth control.
When I find those rare gems that please me (I am picky), I tended to go back and see her multiple times.
Sierra at BTs is the girl that I wanted the most and never got to take. She only danced a few days in August and December. She had just turned 20 years old. She is going to school in Florida. I hope to find her again in the future.
Out of every 10 girls dancing I find roughly 1 who is attractive enough that I will pay money to spend time with her. The trend for fake tits, fake butts, voluminous tattoos & piercings, too much make up, ridiculously large false eyelashes and terribly long finger nails all continue to reduce the number of girls I find attractive and available. Walking into the club I have eliminated about 90% of the girl based on looks. That leaves at most 3 girls on any given shift in any club that I want.
Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each boy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those boys who find that attractive.
7 girls provided me outstanding VIPs, I am willing to follow these girls from club to club when they change clubs. I repeated with these seven girl 63 times during the year. As always YMMV, but I suggest others are likely to enjoy these girls.
- Skye at Criket / BTs / Legends.
- Alana at BTs / Players.
- Italy at BTs / Landing Strip.
- Rain at BTs.
- Crystal at BTs.
- True at BTs.
- Casper at Criket.
6 girls provided acceptable VIPs and I might repeat with them but wouldn't chase them from club to club. I would prefer to first try a new girl. As always YMMV.
- Melody at Landing Streip. Cuban.
- Bubbles at BTs.
- Mia at BTs this is the girl who dances on dayshift different from the Cuban Mia that dances on night shift.
- Red at BTs.
- Kennedy at BTs.
- Andrea at Criket. Cuban.
2 girls had bad sessions, and I would not repeat, I suggest others are likely to not enjoy them and being careful or avoiding them.
- Vicki at BTs Cuban She stopped dancing a few month ago.
- Esse at BTs.
The topic of Cubans has come up many times and I sampled three of them, and 1 was bad and 2 were acceptable. I was hoping for at least one outstanding Cuban last year.
6 times I had problems and did not complete the session; I suggest other be careful with these girls;.
- Lana at Criket When we walked into the VIP she had so many rules about what I could and couldn't touch or do it was too stressful and I walked out.
- Luxury at BTs I asked her to take off her shoes and she refused so I walked out. She stopped dancing a few months ago.
- Selena at BTs In the VIP she asked for payment up front, so I walked out. She works frequently and is busy in the VIP. I am surprised she makes all those guys pay in advance, perhaps there was something about me she didn't like.
- Kennedy at BTs In the VIP she asked for payment up front, so I walked out. She is possibly the best looking girl I saw all year.
After my experience with Selena and Kennedy, I started confirming with girls before I walked into the VIP that payment is at the end.
- Cat at BTs She said she insists on payment first.
- Jesse at BTs She said she insists on payment first, although she has not enforced that on others, perhaps there was something about me she didn't like.
For all you guys who pay in advance, I have never had it work out well, and I would strongly encourage you to stop doing it. Otherwise, you will posting complaining about how you got cheated or hustled. I do think it is fair to show the girl your money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls who insist on paying in advance are helping you avoid bad sessions with them, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy.
Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. Prices continue to rise and as new girls who never danced pre-inflation are demanding higher prices to compensate for the effects of inflation. I had held the $200 price point though 2022 by;.
- Offering girls repeat sessions and coming back to see them regularly.
- By offering two sessions on the same night.
- By pointing out early in the evening that I am covering her tip out so all other session are pure profit to her.
- By watching girls come out of the VIP and saying they already made their tip out so my session is all profit.
- By grandfathering in prices negotiated in prior years before the inflation.
In 2023 my average session cost rose to $230. In 2024 my average session cost rose to $240. I expect costs will continue to rise for the quality of girls I am seeking.
Regardless of negotiated price I offer each girl a $20 - $40 tip if they exceeded my expectations and succeed in completely satisfying me. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but I was always happy when the girls earned my tip which was surprisingly often for Skye, True, Casper, Crystal, Italy, Alana and Rain. Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. And I might tip for a fantasy or for photos. My average spend on my repeat girls was $270 when I include buying her a drink and she earned a tip.
I hope to enjoy my favorite girls as well as sample new girls in the new year. See you in the club.
MM.[/QUOTE]MM. Thanks for the intel! You're a great provider of information.
I agree with you 100% on the fake tits, ass, eyelashes, etc. For me, excessive tats is a hard no for me as well. IMO. If a girl thinks they need ridiculous eyelashes and giant fake tits to be attractive then they are not for me. All natural is best for me even if she has a few flaws. But, to each his own as I am sure some mongers love this stuff.
One of my favs was at H8 a few months ago. She's not fat but not thin. She's got great natural and proportionate tits, a very pretty face and she was such a sweetheart. We went back in those ultra tiny rooms and she gave me a memorable BBBJ (nude) and let me roam all over her. She put her legs up on those bars and let me enjoy all I wanted. Was she the hottest. No. She had personality and understood what I liked (nothing weird but I'm a visual so a naked 27 year old is a turn on).
