Was there on Monday and told by a dancer that it would be closed Jan 1st. 9th for remolding. Sister club which I do not remember the name would be also.
What would be other alternatives for Sunday afternoon this week since it is also new years day?
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Was there on Monday and told by a dancer that it would be closed Jan 1st. 9th for remolding. Sister club which I do not remember the name would be also.
What would be other alternatives for Sunday afternoon this week since it is also new years day?
[QUOTE=Giovani;1347985]Hey everyone has their thing but what is the logic (this is for anyone reading) in doing BBFS? I am well aware of AIDS not being the easiest to transmit but it does happen. Herpes is definitely a risk and other STD's can usually be cured with a simple antibiotic. Is it just the thrill of catching or not catching something that is the appeal? Or just the feeling is that much better it is "worth" the risk? I am not putting you down, but a feel good experience Vs HIV / Herpes / STD is not a good costs / benefits analysis in my opinion. Just wondering what the logic is because maybe I am missing something?[/QUOTE]Maybe it's just me, but I would automatically assume if a dancer, or service provider of any sort is willing to do BBFS, with as many guys as she must see, that she has nothing to lose. That's a scary thought.
[QUOTE=Giovani;1347985]Hey everyone has their thing but what is the logic (this is for anyone reading) in doing BBFS? I am well aware of AIDS not being the easiest to transmit but it does happen. Herpes is definitely a risk and other STD's can usually be cured with a simple antibiotic. Is it just the thrill of catching or not catching something that is the appeal? Or just the feeling is that much better it is "worth" the risk? I am not putting you down, but a feel good experience Vs HIV / Herpes / STD is not a good costs / benefits analysis in my opinion. Just wondering what the logic is because maybe I am missing something?[/QUOTE]Some people are willing to take the risk of catching and std or worse to go bareback, no logic involved I would not but the next man will. This hobby has risks guys picking up sws can and do get clipped by five o. Women take risks working in the sex business 4 women may have lost their lives recently by being involved in the hobby.
Drug use is risky but people still do hard drugs like herion. Nothing people do surprises me anymore.
[QUOTE=Indian Chuck;1348350]Maybe it's just me, but I would automatically assume if a dancer, or service provider of any sort is willing to do BBFS, with as many guys as she must see, that she has nothing to lose. That's a scary thought.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. The scary thought is if a dancer is willing to go BBFS then maybe she already knows she has something and hates the World and wants to pass it on to a guy for spite. Or maybe the guy wanting BBFS already has some disease and is mad at the World for it and wants to spread it. I do not play Russian Roulette with my dick. When you think of how many guys a dancer who does extras has sex with in a year, it is almost inevitable that she would catch something. So why would a guy be crazy enough to do it? I mean if a dancer has sex with 3 guys a shift, 4 days a week, times 52 weeks a year: that is 600 guys a year. I would not stick my bare dick into that cess pool.
We're all risk-takers, but some of us are willing to go further, or risk more, to get that "rush" or "high." It's the same for any kind of immediate gratification, whether it's drugs, booze, sex, food, etc. We all fall somewhere on the gray scale going from lowest risk to highest risk.
Who in their right mind thought Cheerleaders was a good name?
It's tacky as hell and it's not a name I see as putting it above the competition in quality.
Time and the talent will tell.
[QUOTE=Plumber2;1348945]Agreed. I am looking forward to stopping in when they open back up though. My shop is a half mile away. Long lunch![/QUOTE]When is Cheerleaders opening, I have been a regular at Coliseum, but ready to try an alternative. Penthouse has ttthe hottest dancers but pricey.
One has to assume EVERY provider does BBFS. I have been with providers where the rubber has broken and then what? Still clean and lucky I guess. This is a risky endeavor. I do not understand the angst and anger if someone reports BBFS, all of these girls do it one way or the other. Does not matter what one thinks, it happens all the time. All one can do is to be safe to themselves and hope the rubber does not break. If one is worried, stop mongering and stop hating on others that enjoy the risk. Just stop it.
[QUOTE=A1313;1350603]One has to assume EVERY provider does BBFS. I have been with providers where the rubber has broken and then what? Still clean and lucky I guess. This is a risky endeavor. I do not understand the angst and anger if someone reports BBFS, all of these girls do it one way or the other. Does not matter what one thinks, it happens all the time. All one can do is to be safe to themselves and hope the rubber does not break. If one is worried, stop mongering and stop hating on others that enjoy the risk. Just stop it.[/QUOTE]I couldn't disagree more so let's stick to some facts shall we? The reality is most CSW / Strippers / etc do NOT have HIV / STD's and are more careful than your average bar star. The VAST majority of CSW's will NOT provide BBFS. Those that do, greatly increase their risk of STD's though HIV is not an easy virus to transmit from female to male."Stop hating on those that do." It's more a reality testing. Longevity should be the key not instant gratification. I don't see many people hating, rather offering different perspective. You seem to be the one "hating" by telling people to not share a different perspective. Don't make the assumption that "All these girls do it one way or the other." And please don't respond with "what about their boyfriend." We aren't talking about monogamy and if you think the boyfriend and the provider are NOT getting tested multiple times a year you are dreaming.
[QUOTE=A1313;1350603]One has to assume EVERY provider does BBFS. I have been with providers where the rubber has broken and then what? Still clean and lucky I guess. This is a risky endeavor. I do not understand the angst and anger if someone reports BBFS, all of these girls do it one way or the other. Does not matter what one thinks, it happens all the time. All one can do is to be safe to themselves and hope the rubber does not break. If one is worried, stop mongering and stop hating on others that enjoy the risk. Just stop it.[/QUOTE]Furthermore, the more that BBFS is promoted, the greater the likelihood that I will receive an STD from a provider. Protection is key in this game and while I get that some want to push the extreme, that doesn't mean it should be promoted at least from my perspective. The only gray area I think many will say is BBBJ. And again, the more BBFS is promoted, the greater the risk of ANY BBBJ; NGU, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea etc.
[QUOTE=Giovani;1350805]I couldn't disagree more so let's stick to some facts shall we? The reality is most CSW / Strippers / etc do NOT have HIV / STD's and are more careful than your average bar star. The VAST majority of CSW's will NOT provide BBFS. Those that do, greatly increase their risk of STD's though HIV is not an easy virus to transmit from female to male."Stop hating on those that do." It's more a reality testing. Longevity should be the key not instant gratification. I don't see many people hating, rather offering different perspective. You seem to be the one "hating" by telling people to not share a different perspective. Don't make the assumption that "All these girls do it one way or the other." And please don't respond with "what about their boyfriend." We aren't talking about monogamy and if you think the boyfriend and the provider are NOT getting tested multiple times a year you are dreaming.[/QUOTE]What is CSW?
[QUOTE=Weezon;1351279]What is CSW?[/QUOTE]Commercial Sex Worker
[QUOTE=Archie Pitcar;1351401]Commercial Sex Worker[/QUOTE]And I thought it meant common street walker.
Nice trip to the 8 on Monday. Good selection of ladies, someone for everyone's taste! Was able to spend some time and meet some of the hotties! Finally decided on a young brunette spinner. Great dancer. Nice VIP and the bonus was that it was 10 dollar dance day! Pretty open menu and took advantage as we were the only ones in the VIP. Still have a hard time with the wristband concept but were left alone to do as we pleased. Looking forward to a return soon!
[QUOTE=Tomautoman;1352099]Nice trip to the 8 on Monday. Good selection of ladies, someone for everyone's taste! Was able to spend some time and meet some of the hotties! Finally decided on a young brunette spinner. Great dancer. Nice VIP and the bonus was that it was 10 dollar dance day! Pretty open menu and took advantage as we were the only ones in the VIP. Still have a hard time with the wristband concept but were left alone to do as we pleased. Looking forward to a return soon![/QUOTE]North or south.
I had a little run in at fc and had to switch to ph, you know what they say never date a stripper. Any ph is off the hook right now top notch talent. Everything from bb to Greek, lots of GFE, they start high, will not turn down.
$250 and no shot girls. Pm me if you want some names. It won't last forever but we have gift right now!
[QUOTE=Oregon2020;1344748]Outstanding visit to H8 this week. Day shift, Angelique. I haven't seen her talked about much (not for a while, anyway) but she's easily in the top three EVER. I was kind of exhausted and polite to her, and she was just great. Didn't "bargain" but just told her what I had, and she said,"don't worry" and that was that. Sigh.[/QUOTE]She's a real pro, and a pleasure to spend time with. She has been know to get over on noobs when it comes to $$$, so you should be prepared to negotiate if you seek her out. The menu had everything on it except trips to Greece when I placed my order.
[QUOTE=John3030;1352224]North or south.[/QUOTE]This time it was north. Hope this helps!
Went by there and its closed looks like Coli will be busy for some time.
I've heard that the food is pretty good at the Landing Strip, and after reading the reviews, I figured the day shift dancers were going to be pretty hot. Well, the food is good. I parked on the street and avoided the valet charge, mandatory coat check, but no fee, (tipped her a buck) Sat at a table by the stage and ordered the 7 buck rib eye steak sandwich with fries and a bottle of water. 9 bux with tip for the water, and 9 bux with tip for the sandwich. Sandwich was worth it, very tasty and well prepared, came with good french fries. Some very cute dancers, however the biggest cup size I saw was about a be plus. Not really overwhelmed with the dancers. Absolutely hated the music selection. Nothing but hip hop and rap crap. Patrons: Three. All older dudes. Got asked by three girls if I wanted company. No, not interested in any of them really. Just wanted to sip my water, eat and relax before I had to go to work. I have nothing to add on the VIP, or services there. None offered, none asked for. Relatively relaxing lunch and sight seeing trip, but the crappy music made it less than a good outing. Maybe it's just me and my sexy senior citizen status, but does anybody remember Rock and Roll?
Anyone got any updates on BT's Lounge? I know they were closed for a week or 10 days. I was hoping one of the locals could pop in and see if they reopened, and ultimately if the VIP dances are still satisfying.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1353672]Anyone got any updates on BT's Lounge? I know they were closed for a week or 10 days. I was hoping one of the locals could pop in and see if they reopened, and ultimately if the VIP dances are still satisfying.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Damn, I forgot about that. One of the dancers told me that a few weeks ago. I don't think it was any major remodel. Good thing I didn't go all the way down there if they are still closed. I guess you could call the club.
Yea I remember it.
Even seen Buddy Holley and Fats Domino.
Has any one notice the difference of a escort and a stripper?
On out call it seems strippers rush things (time is money) and try to hustle one more.
I don't even know where to begin. Don't even bother PM'ing me for details on this one, but here goes. I went to a club tonight that I haven't been to in awhile. I saw this dancer I had seen a few times at another club. Most of the girls in that other club do extras, so I assumed she did too when she worked there. But I never did get a chance to talk to her at the other club because she was always busy with someone else. I always wanted to fuck her, but I only saw her twice and never had the chance. So by luck I run into her tonight. This other dancer is trying to get me to goto the VIP, but I am preoccupied with that other girl. I get the first dancers number and have one dance just to get rid of her. Then luckily the other dancer just got freed up. So I talk to her, tell her I saw her at the other club and get right to the point. I ask her if she does extras. She kind of dances around the subject. Then she said she doesn't know how it works at this club or what she is supposed to charge. She said the bouncer told her she is supposed to charge $$.50 for FS. I said it's up to the dancer as to what she charges. She asks me what I normally pay. I tell her at the club you used to work at most of the girls charge $ for FS. So she agrees to it reluctantly. We go to the VIP and she acts like she doesn't really know what to do. When I get nude she says oh my God, that is too big. I've never seen one that big before, I don't think I can do this. I said I'll take it slow. She is 19 and tight as hell. She says I'm hurting her and to take it out. I'm like fuck! I said lets just take it slow and I'll make it fast. I was afraid she might make me completely stop. So I finish the deed and she is acting kind of weird. I ask her what's wrong, and she said thats her first time. I was stunned. At first I thought she meant she was a virgin. But she meant this was the first time she's ever done it for money in a club. I was stunned. I can't believe I was her first one. I felt kind of bad about it in a way, but I have been wanting to fuck this chick for 6 months now. So then she says the bouncer said I have to give them a cut depending on what she did. She asks if she needs to tell him. I tell her don't tell him shit. This chick is hot, real hot. I couldn't believe this just happened to me. I supposed next time I see her, she'll wise up and talk to the other girls and ask for $$.5. But I got lucky tonight. Wow.
[QUOTE=Jooop; 1354140]Has any one notice the difference of a escort and a stripper?
On out call it seems strippers rush things (time is money) and try to hustle one more.[/QUOTE]I don't know; like everything else, I think it depends on the girl. I've had escorts give me the rush-out-the-door experience, even when there's plenty of time left on the clock. But so far, I've only seen one peeler OTC (I like her so much I haven't yet expanded my Rolodex) , and I can only think of one or two times she's been in a hurry. Even spent the night with me, no extra charge.
But I see your point, in that it might be difficult for a stripper to get past the "hustle" mentality that serves them so well in the club. As always, it's best to state your intentions up front and hold your ground if you feel cheated.
[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1353672]Anyone got any updates on BT's Lounge? I know they were closed for a week or 10 days. I was hoping one of the locals could pop in and see if they reopened, and ultimately if the VIP dances are still satisfying.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Thats funny Tycoons is all so closed I think that there own by the same people that has BT's.
[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy;1354781]I ask her what's wrong, and she said thats her first time. I was stunned. At first I thought she meant she was a virgin.[/QUOTE]Great report! You would think she would know the mechanics of sex, even if she never did it in the club. But you did say she was 19, so maybe there is very little mileage on her.
I hate breaking in new dancers, even non-XXXtras dancers. Just recently I went against my better judgement and did a VIP with a sexy newcomer spinner. Took me to the wrong room for the special, then asked *me* what the prices were. Then after it was over and she listened to my feedback, I gave her a $20 tip. Then she said,"could you give it to me after I pay him, so I dot have to split it?" Total noob.
[QUOTE=SteveBlack; 1355613]Great report! You would think she would know the mechanics of sex, even if she never did it in the club. But you did say she was 19, so maybe there is very little mileage on her.
I hate breaking in new dancers, even non-XXXtras dancers. Just recently I went against my better judgement and did a VIP with a sexy newcomer spinner. Took me to the wrong room for the special, then asked *me* what the prices were. Then after it was over and she listened to my feedback, I gave her a $20 tip. Then she said,"could you give it to me after I pay him, so I dot have to split it?" Total noob.[/QUOTE]It wasn't a matter of her being clueless sexually, I think it was just that she was having second thoughts about plunging into the extra business. Once she does it she can never go back. Suck one cock and you're a cock sucker for life they say. So when I said she didn't know what to do at first, I think its because normally you would do it with a boyfriend or whatever, start kissing, foreplay, whatever and not just plunge right into it. She said she needed to make a lot of money (I didn't ask for what) , heard girls there could make a lot, and then said well I guess if I want to make the money I have to start doing it eventually. I think she was just trying to work up the nerve to do it. She said she had only danced maybe a half dozen times ever, and had never done ANY extras. No wonder I hardly ever saw her. So imagine how tough it would be for a girl the first time getting paid for it with a stranger. I saw her go in the VIP with another guy before me, but maybe he didn't ask for extras or maybe she didn't want to do it with him. I'm not saying this to brag, but women find me pretty attractive so maybe she was willing to do it with me but not with others.
I didn't mind the whole awkwardness thing with her because it was like taking a time warp back to high school. Again, she had the tightest pussy I have ever fucked. I didn't think I was ever going to get it in there.
It really pisses me off when these meathead bouncers try to take their cut from the girls. I am giving the money to the girl, not to some meathead.
[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy; 1354781]I don't even know where to begin. Don't even bother PM'ing me for details on this one, but here goes. I went to a club tonight that I haven't been to in awhile. I saw this dancer I had seen a few times at another club. Most of the girls in that other club do extras, so I assumed she did too when she worked there. But I never did get a chance to talk to her at the other club because she was always busy with someone else. I always wanted to fuck her, but I only saw her twice and never had the chance. So by luck I run into her tonight. This other dancer is trying to get me to goto the VIP, but I am preoccupied with that other girl. I get the first dancers number and have one dance just to get rid of her. Then luckily the other dancer just got freed up. So I talk to her, tell her I saw her at the other club and get right to the point. I ask her if she does extras. She kind of dances around the subject. Then she said she doesn't know how it works at this club or what she is supposed to charge. She said the bouncer told her she is supposed to charge $$.50 for FS. I said it's up to the dancer as to what she charges. She asks me what I normally pay. I tell her at the club you used to work at most of the girls charge $ for FS. So she agrees to it reluctantly. We go to the VIP and she acts like she doesn't really know what to do. When I get nude she says oh my God, that is too big. I've never seen one that big before, I don't think I can do this. I said I'll take
It slow. She is 19 and tight as hell. She says I'm hurting her and to take it out. I'm like fuck! I said lets just take it slow and
I'll make it fast. I was afraid she might make me completely stop. So I finish the deed and she is acting kind of weird. I ask
Her what's wrong, and she said thats her first time. I was stunned. At first I thought she meant she was a virgin. But she
Meant this was the first time she's ever done it for money in a club. I was stunned. I can't believe I was her first one. I felt
Kind of bad about it in a way, but I have been wanting to fuck this chick for 6 months now. So then she says the bouncer
Said I have to give them a cut depending on what she did. She asks if she needs to tell him. I tell her don't tell him shit. This
Chick is hot, real hot. I couldn't believe this just happened to me. I supposed next time I see her, she'll wise up and talk to
The other girls and ask for $$.5. But I got lucky tonight. Wow.[/QUOTE]I had a similar experience, I had to do a lot of talking to get it and when we finished she just slumped to the floor and starts crying, I pulled her up and asked what was wrong, she said she had promised herself she would never do that, we talked and she got it together, but it was a trip. Later that night another girl I know came over and sat on my lap, said there was a bunch of girls in the back crying cause they can't make any money without extras and then she started to cry, I was like what fuck kind of night is this! It does help if you are decent looking, with some at least. I have dated a bunch and they all got drama!
A few guys would seek me out to find out who was "about it." Being the entrepreneurial guy that I am, I'd get the guy to tip me for that info, get the girl to tip me for sending the guys her way. I'd also persuade the club manager to open the second floor of the club which had one door in and out and I'd man the door and the light switch. At first I was bring home $80 bucks a night. That quickly ramped up to about $400 and this was in the early to mid 90s. I say all this to say, hit it off with a bouncer (buy him a beer or soda or just flip him a $10 tip. It will be remembered).
[QUOTE=Giovani;1350805]I couldn't disagree more so let's stick to some facts shall we?[/QUOTE]Facts are cool, but you didn't provide some. All you provided was opinions.
Reasonable people assume everyone they are fucking has a STD.
[QUOTE=Plumber2; 1356277]Funny that I have had strippers get shitty with me when I tell them "no thanks" on the dance unless it has extras. Maybe one or two if the girl is really attractive to me, or I talk with her and we hit it off. I just don't want to waste $100 or more on regular dances.
They can ban together for higher pricing, cry about it, whatever. Business is business and to make it you need to be competitive.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more, that is just the way it is now, a beautiful thing if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Bigdikdanaler;1356815]I couldn't agree more, that is just the way it is now, a beautiful thing if you ask me.[/QUOTE]I agree. I can not remember the last time I got a regular lap dance. If the girls do not provide extra, I just move on; also, I would tell the girl all I have is 1. 00, she can take it for leave.
[QUOTE=Happy Pantss;1356820]I agree. I can not remember the last time I got a regular lap dance. If the girls do not provide extra, I just move on; also, I would tell the girl all I have is 1. 00, she can take it for leave.[/QUOTE]Same here. I can't believe the money I used to spend up until a few years ago just getting regular lap dances. I pay less now and get FS or a BJ. Unreal. There are a rare few who don't do extras, that I have to find extremely attractive, that I go to the VIP for 1 or 2 regular dances, but that's it. And that is not often at all.
[QUOTE=Big Puff Daddy;1356851]Same here. I can't believe the money I used to spend up until a few years ago just getting regular lap dances. I pay less now and get FS or a BJ. Unreal. There are a rare few who don't do extras, that I have to find extremely attractive, that I go to the VIP for 1 or 2 regular dances, but that's it. And that is not often at all.[/QUOTE]Is the shit is like crack! I just can't get enough, dropping loot like there is no tomorrow, but hey I figure get it while it lasts.
What specific Club or Clubs are you referring too. I have had this type of experience at a couple of different Gentlemen's Clubs here in Detroit. I have a suspicion but would like it confirmed. Thanking you in advance. Vic.
[QUOTE=Bigdikdanaler;1356879]Is the shit is like crack! I just can't get enough, dropping loot like there is no tomorrow, but hey I figure get it while it lasts.[/QUOTE]
I am interested which clubs in Detroit you are referring too? I frequent the FC many afternoons and always wonder if I have negotiated fairly with the different strippers. They have an advantage that they negotiate will different customers all day long so they have more experience. I want to arrive at prices that are fair for both of use. Thanks in advance, Vic.
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[QUOTE=Rwlifer; 1319434]Not sure where to put his post, but since I thought it was a strip club, I guess this is as good as any. I recently was in Nashville and I may add that we are very lucky to have what we hav.
And Detroit. Extras in Nashville and many cities are slight contact with the dancer. Makes me not want to travel anymore. Anyway, I was entering a "club" in Nashville and they made me fill out a form with personal information (of coarse I gave them all fake info) and charged a 1 night membership fee of 10 bucks. The place was BYOB and all soft drinks are free, pop, water, etc. Come to find out, it's a swingers club! On a Tuesday night there were about 4 couples there and about 10-15 single guys. Headed upstairs to find about 20 rooms with various themes from swings, to dungeon chamber, wall cuffs. Actually clean and laid out nice. In the rooms the couples were doing what couples do with little crowds watching them. Then I noticed a few guys get in on the action, BBBJ, cfs, finger play, the whole nine yards.
So I'm watching these girls lay on a bench / couch and get played with by a bunch of strangers. Kind of creepy, but I got over it quickly. I feel this tap on my shoulder and its a woman about 40 years old, really sharp looking, with high heels on, panties, a bra and a mens white dress shirt buttoned half way down. Her looks were about an 8, attitude 10 x 10, and body 6. She was kind of big maybe 5'9 160lbs, but she was very nice looking. She points her finger at me and does the follow me thing, so I did. She takes me into this room and closes the door. He husband was in there too, really nice guy. Super nice, felt like I was talking to a couple at a restuarant or something. Told me he likes to watch and thats it, doesn't jump in. BTW, during this 10 min conversation his wife is rubbing me through my jeans. All of a sudden she stands up, strips and starts dancing slowly. She then gets on her knees and starts BBBJ. The porno kind. Looking up at me, tongue, ball lick, just like a porn star. She whips out a condom, puts it on me and starts riding me. Gets off, bends over and we start doggie, takes me out of her and puts me in the back nine. Felt like I was in a porno. Ended happy, actually shaking, said our goodbyes and went back to my hotel room. 10 bucks out of pocket and a porno experience of a life time. Also, when I was leaving a couple was checking in, she was about 22 yrs old, spinner and a solid 7 girl next door. Good thing I'm going back to Nashville in a few weeks!
Is there anything like this in Detroit? Perfectly legal, no worries of getting uncle leo upset![/QUOTE]