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[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1134284]I'm still in the B class.[/QUOTE]Heh, I was lieing on this. I'm in the C class also. The 35+ being OG made me sick. I was like: "Aww. Man why 35+ got to be considered OG?" Hehe.
But, you know what? Screw the age number, If you know how to have fun and live it up, that's what makes you young.
[QUOTE=Carmello;1134348]B class. I think I'm retiring now as I've been getting bored and rather enjoy the chase with normal hoes and the occasional freebies, so no need mess with these professional money takers. But then again, I think if monica looks anything like bamboo from another mongers posting, need to try that at least once![/QUOTE]Bamboo is a pretty good representation of Monica.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1134450]Bamboo is a pretty good representation of Monica.[/QUOTE]I agree, that pic of bamboo definitely resembles Monica except she's not holding any ice water in her mouth. What a great cold water BBBJ she gives.
Have a great weekend gang!
GK
[QUOTE=Sik Dj Gugu; 1134319]Hm. Just made the B cutoff by a couple years.
I get that people my age. 20's, would like to spend time at strip clubs and regular clubs but somehow I feel I relate more at hostess bars. I've been a little more comfortable going by myself although I do get looks from people at the bar and bartenders as well. Probably thinking 'uh. Who's this kid? And wth is he doing in here?" but then again its fun to talk to some of the older guys and here what kind of stories they have to tell. Guess I'm just old school asian like that where I respect my elders and honestly feel that there's some wisdom to be gained. After all, that's what I use this forum for, to learn from people who been there so that I don't get into the same shitty situations.
I've probably talked with a few people here just without knowing it since its not like we share our handle or even discuss this thread at the kbs. Anywho, if there's a few senior mongers out there that wouldn't mind grabbing a drink or two with a younger fella, please feel free to message me. Would like to hit up some kbs this weekend. Maybe go to one I've never been to before.[/QUOTE]I can relate with you big time. Also being Asian I look even younger. All the girls call me baby but I'm pretty sure that's just flirting / fishing for a drinkie.
[QUOTE=Darkman808; 1133905]As an 'older' monger, it took me awhile to figure this out. But after many "seasons" of perverted sex hunting missions here, mainland, overseas and involving many different girls of various shapes, sizes and colors; as well as many different types of services; what I finally figured out is I don't want the regular thing no matter how good or even GREAT it is.
The reason I monger is I want something different all the time. Every night if I could afford it. The hottest chicks who service me the best, I've gone back to 2 or 3 times. But honestly, I can't see the same "great" provider more than 2X in one week.
I honestly can say that it is the adrenaline rush I get when I first meet her and we connect (or don't) and then we fuck like bunnies and both really enjoy it. The second time is even better, since now you know each others rhythm. By number 3 or 4 I'm like, Uh, okay, been there done that.
Just my two cents. If I wanted regular great sex from the same girl, I'd get married, right? But then I'm married and that regular great sex turns into good sex, then okay sex, then sex, then a headache. See where this is going? [/QUOTE]Right on Darkman808! I agree with your logic. I think most men would agree that sex is one of the greatest pleasures we can have in life. Without new stimulant (such as having sex with the same person over and over) , the pleasure from having sex would just diminish.
[QUOTE=Mba Hi; 1134251]Just got to love this recent discussion on posting our age. For me C+. But what about those posts for C+ and older. I have one for PT in the day around 10a. But, because I'm a C+. Where do I post. MP. MT. Day Monger. Older dudes. LOL.
Let me know and ill post! On another note anyone taking pit +2. 5 and over. [/QUOTE]PT is a MP, you should post to MP. If your majority mongering happens during day time, then you should post to the Day Monger.
Thanks for participating. Great to hear from the Dirty Old Bastards and 60 plus uncles. BTW I'm pushing 50.
[QUOTE=Alohaoe; 1134376]Alohaoe.
I'm in the same class as you E class 67 yrs old[/QUOTE]Is there a V class for viagra class.
[QUOTE=Got Viagra;1134542]Is there a V class for viagra class.[/QUOTE]That's my class. But I'm way younger than 67.
I'm D class, mid 50s but age has always been a number, I think I'm 30 inside my brain sex wise and I'm thinking alot of you 'older' guys think the same way.
[QUOTE=GKaniho; 1134470]I agree, that pic of bamboo definitely resembles Monica except she's not holding any ice water in her mouth. What a great cold water BBBJ she gives.
Have a great weekend gang!
GK[/QUOTE]Thanks Bruddahs Just trying to give a visual of Monica.
She asked me tell my friends.
I hope this helps.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1133928]There are some good ones out there. You just have to choose wisely like in Indiana Jones. Choose the wrong one and she'll suck the life out of you. Choose the right one and you're golden.[/QUOTE]Some time the good one turn out to be the crazy one and by the time you find out it's to late.
[QUOTE=Got Viagra;1134542]Is there a V class for viagra class.[/QUOTE]V class is E class.
Idk what class I'm in, just don't say no class.
DJP
[QUOTE=John Ross;1134450]Bamboo is a pretty good representation of Monica.[/QUOTE]A porn star makes a good reference to what a provider looks like.
[QUOTE=Memahu;1135499]A porn star makes a good reference to what a provider looks like.[/QUOTE]I'll be honest with you, but I ran into Bamboo some where on the Mainland! And I've seen her a few times!
Didn't know she was doing porn. When I think of her name, I'll let you know.
I know it's tough to get intel out of town but I am willing to give out some midwest intel if someone can help me with my upcoming vacation.
C+ here and asian
[QUOTE=Nobsnindy;1135863]I know it's tough to get intel out of town but I am willing to give out some midwest intel if someone can help me with my upcoming vacation.[/QUOTE]Go Waianae, I heard ahi running now. Sorry, just kidding, couldn't resist, hehe. However, it would help to know what kind of 'intel' you are looking for.
[QUOTE=Oldee;1136195]Go Waianae, I heard ahi running now. Sorry, just kidding, couldn't resist, hehe. However, it would help to know what kind of 'intel' you are looking for.[/QUOTE]You sure it's Waianae? I thought you meant Nanakuli.
DJP
Morning everyone. I'm browsing going thru the forum and was thinking back on how I got started mongering. It started after I picked up a penny saver and found the relaxation ads. I was like what the hell are these places about. I was at work which allowed me to cruise around and I started knocking on some of the doors. Figured out shortly what they where. It took me awhile to get up the nerve to actually go in and get serviced. I think the first place I went to was near the old tower records (now Walgreens) on kapiolani the business college building. Then to where I guess Ichiban is now. Hit a few other places and learned on the job the in's and out's of the AMP business. I became a regular at the old Rakuen, always wanted to do the mamasan. I know she wasn't pretty but she was always walking around with no bra, and I have a thing for mamasasn's. Later found pinetree who IMMO had the most consistent quality girls. Looking back it has been at least 17 years since I started. Wish I had this forum before I started I could have avoided all the junk places.
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.[/blue]
Now that Diamond and that other little bar are in place, there are provocative local girls walking around Makaloa. Can smell their perfume from 10 feet away. Most of them are with their boys but not all.
I haven't figured out how to really use the SEARCH feature here since they changed to a new board. Then I thought maybe each AMP should have their own thread (like the Ichiban / Nirvana ones). But not enough reports like before to make it worthwhile.
Just wondering how many of us monger in VEGAS? I know there's a board for VEGAS, but have you read it? I go about 2-5x a year, depending on how well I do / work / etc. I figure a bunch of you must go more then me. I
[QUOTE=Pok Gai; 1137715]I haven't figured out how to really use the SEARCH feature here since they changed to a new board. Then I thought maybe each AMP should have their own thread (like the Ichiban / Nirvana ones). But not enough reports like before to make it worthwhile.
Just wondering how many of us monger in VEGAS? I know there's a board for VEGAS, but have you read it? I go about 2-5x a year, depending on how well I do / work / etc. I figure a bunch of you must go more then me. I[/QUOTE]Since I'm new to leaving posts. Ill try to be objective here. Visited a few mps in vegas. Mostly along spring mtn, paradise, and a couple in henderson. All of them can't compete to the local AMPs here. The last mp time I was in vegas I tried an mp on spring mtn road about 1. 5 miles away from the strip. Talking about getting ripped off. I think I lost more money there than at the crap tables at GN.
Never tried the BP or CL ads in vegas. On the other hand I never knew there was this forum on the web. Maybe next time will try BP and use the vegas forum before gambling. LOL!
[QUOTE=Pok Gai; 1137715]I haven't figured out how to really use the SEARCH feature here since they changed to a new board. Then I thought maybe each AMP should have their own thread (like the Ichiban / Nirvana ones). But not enough reports like before to make it worthwhile.
Just wondering how many of us monger in VEGAS? I know there's a board for VEGAS, but have you read it? I go about 2-5x a year, depending on how well I do / work / etc. I figure a bunch of you must go more then me. I[/QUOTE]I just started a new thread 'Las Vegas Action'. It should be up tomorrow, so we can post all the LV action there.
DJP
[url]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14011020[/url]
[url]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14011020[/url]
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[url]http://traffickjamming.org/SABrandonSimpsonRadioInterview.asx[/url]
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It looks like they (the elected officials) are going to starting the next round of "making examples out of mongers and providers". (again.) I'm sure for a little while, they are also going to increase the "attention" on AMPs. I'm sticking with what I know is a sure thing. Be careful out there!
[QUOTE=Pau Hana Party; 1137966]
[url]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14011020[/url]
[url]http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=14011020[/url]
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[url]http://traffickjamming.org/SABrandonSimpsonRadioInterview.asx[/url]
(audio broadcast)
It looks like they (the elected officials) are going to starting the next round of "making examples out of mongers and providers". (again.) I'm sure for a little while, they are also going to increase the "attention" on AMPs. I'm sticking with what I know is a sure thing. Be careful out there![/QUOTE]I saw the news story, but the focus seems to be more on the pimps and human traffickers, not the actual girls and thier customers. It characterized the girls as "victims" and the aim is to protect them and make them feel comfortable in coming forward. That's not to say that mongers should not be a little vigilant, but it seemed like the issue was not on AMPs as they showed a lot of street walkers. Let's hope that's the case.
Be safe
[QUOTE=Makana9; 1113699]
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Lv. Something from a party, awhile back[/QUOTE]So. What with the guy with the rubber thingy in his face.
I guess she's a wild thing
[QUOTE=Mba Hi; 1137725]Since I'm new to leaving posts. Ill try to be objective here. Visited a few mps in vegas. Mostly along spring mtn, paradise, and a couple in henderson. All of them can't compete to the local AMPs here. The last mp time I was in vegas I tried an mp on spring mtn road about 1. 5 miles away from the strip. Talking about getting ripped off. I think I lost more money there than at the crap tables at GN.
Never tried the BP or CL ads in vegas. On the other hand I never knew there was this forum on the web. Maybe next time will try BP and use the vegas forum before gambling. LOL! [/QUOTE]I think most of those places near the strip not going to be all that good. Mostly older Chinese quoting 100 for an HJ. I guess in Vegas, they feel its not that much since people are gambling and blowing money. Heh, there's one called Hawaii Massage on east tropicana avenue. I should go in there and askum: "Get kamaaina discount? I from Hawaii"
When I was driving on Industrial Road I see some strip bars there called Gentlemens Club. How are those like? I only checked out the Glitter Gulch a few years ago in downtown and the 2 girls took advantage of us. My girl asked for $40 a lapdance for one song. No cover charge but 2 drink minimum per person. Good thing I asked how much it was after 1 song. She would done another lap dance and ask for $40 again. What a rip, spent $70 in 15 min in there. I bought the 4 drinks for me and my friend for $30 and the lapdance was $40.
[QUOTE=LeftysWing;1137972]I saw the news story, but the focus seems to be more on the pimps and human traffickers, not the actual girls and thier customers. [/QUOTE]I apologize for this very long post but it's an important topic. Anyway here's a summary:
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I think Hawaii hobbyists should be extra, extra careful for a while because bills in the state legislature that would drastically effect us are the motivation behind this crackdown.
====
Stopping human trafficking is definitely a wonderful goal and the kind of horrible crime the police *should* go after relentlessly. But remember that many anti-trafficking activists are virulently opposed to hobbying in any form. For them "human trafficking" is their new code word for any kind of sex work. Just as the tenuous dangers of second-hand smoke were used to crack down on first-hand smokers (yeah that's my opinion, but it's also a strategy) recasting all prostitution as "slavery" allows them to go after it with renewed public sympathy. It's no longer a victimless crime to the mass of voters.
There's more going on here than just one crackdown. This is a big issue in the current state legislature which is potentially as divisive as civil unions. But this time those with a live-and-let-live attitude are in an even worse position because first they'll accuse you of defending slavery, and if you can get around that you're still a "pervert." It's a no-win.
Here are two lobbying groups on either side of the issue:
[b]Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery[/b]
[url]http://www.traffickjamming.org/[/url]
More like the Pacific Alliance to Stop Sex, IMO. You have to read a ways down the page, but it becomes clear they are out to punish anyone who thinks our hobby can be victimless. From the school of thought that says banning condoms prevents teen sex.
[b]Arresting Prostitutes is Legal Exploitation[/b]
[url]http://www.aplehawaii.org/2010HawaiiLeg.html[/url]
A sadly outdated and unfinished site, but the information is only a year old and (if you're willing to dig around in the folders) there are articles that lay out the arguments against criminalization quite well. Basically, the site's creator (Tracy Ryan of the Hawaii Libertarian Party) is afraid for women's safety at the hands of overpowered and unscrupulous cops. She posted on the current issue recently on Civil Beat:
[url]http://www.civilbeat.com/comments/8550/[/url]
Disclaimer, FWIW: I don't know the woman and definitely do not consider myself a Libertarian. But I agree with her on this at least.
Speaking of cops, remember that when a crackdown is publicly announced the point is to put pressure on the police as much as anything else. The moment they started planning the operation they started planning their next press conference when they announce "Mission Accomplished" to whatever degree they can. So now we've got a bunch of cops with a mandate who are going to try to maximize "results." And for good or ill, many of them won't be experienced vice cops.
Now I don't doubt they will go after the real scumballs, and more power to 'them in that regard. But I've had enough bosses to know there's rarely such a thing as "enough results." Some cops will cast their net wider than human traffickers for all the reasons that a salesman will go after every potential client. And it's very hard to catch those people as the culture of silence that surrounds it is so tough to crack.
So I for one am not going to make it easy on the cops or the traffickers. I'm going to watch how the legislation proceeds and hold off until votes are cast. If the police can't pad their quota with two-bit hobbyists like me they'll have to work even harder on the traffickers. It's a win-win-win for the good guys (me, the cops, and most importantly the victims).
I haven't even touched on what's in the bills, but this post is too long already.
Aww. Yeah it's Valentines day man. Anyone going to see their favorite BG or AMP girl tonight? I'm going to show up with candy and roses. Going to blow at least $1k tonight. Yes! I'm excited.
[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1139833]Aww. Yeah it's Valentines day man. Anyone going to see their favorite BG or AMP girl tonight? I'm going to show up with candy and roses. Going to blow at least $1k tonight. Yes! I'm excited.[/QUOTE]LOL, they will love you. You going for a five rounder?
I hate it when you make an appointment with someone you already saw and then she keeps changing the time to a later and later time. It should be if you are late discount! She even asked for more than before. WTF? I know some girls who prescreen will charge you a percentage if no show or duct from the time spent.
[QUOTE=LeftysWing; 1137972]I saw the news story, but the focus seems to be more on the pimps and human traffickers, not the actual girls and thier customers. It characterized the girls as "victims" and the aim is to protect them and make them feel comfortable in coming forward. That's not to say that mongers should not be a little vigilant, but it seemed like the issue was not on AMPs as they showed a lot of street walkers. Let's hope that's the case.
Be safe[/QUOTE]There is also a court ruling making it possible to rape a prostitute! This will definitely make me quit doing' prostitutes!
When a prostitute can yell rape on a monger, it is a sad day. How can you rape a prostitute? By not paying her?
Doesn't make sense! She can also yell rape when there is no rape! That's the really bad part of it! Like I said, I'll quit because of this!
[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1139833]Aww. Yeah it's Valentines day man. Anyone going to see their favorite BG or AMP girl tonight? I'm going to show up with candy and roses. Going to blow at least $1k tonight. Yes! I'm excited.[/QUOTE]I sure hope you were kidding about spending that $1k. You've been around for quite a while and should know better. I had Valentine's lunch with a BG today at her place and we got busy afterwards. Another one came over and cooked me dinner tonight. The steak was good, but dessert was better. She took a shower and went to work as customers were expected in. Thank God for the V sample my doc gave me. It works good, but make me all hot and flushed. BG#2 is coming over after work so I'll get to hear stories of the saps that visited her tonight.
That brings me to another point. Never tell a BG that you love her. Once you do, it's all over and she knows she has you by the balls. I hear some saps telling the girls, I love you so much, but you don't love me. Come on and smell the roses, she loves your money, not you. You grumble about how much you spend on her and she gets pissed so what do you do? You buy her more drinks because you don't want her to be pissed off at you. You cannot be a pushover! You need to put your foot down and take control of the situation. Believe it or not, when you do this, women will respect you.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1140147]I sure hope you were kidding about spending that $1k. You've been around for quite a while and should know better. I had Valentine's lunch with a BG today at her place and we got busy afterwards. Another one came over and cooked me dinner tonight. The steak was good, but dessert was better. She took a shower and went to work as customers were expected in. Thank God for the V sample my doc gave me. It works good, but make me all hot and flushed. Let's see what kind of money BG#2 made tonight when she comes over after work.[/QUOTE]Hehe, yeah I was only acting silly. I was giggling when I submitted that post. I was hoping someone would reply and start bashing negative comments hehe. Shucks. Man, there's no way I would do that. There's one thing that I've learned from mongering here and overseas is that there's a lot of fine ass chicks out there. So. That's why I'm not soo crazy Into 1 particular girl like she's soo special or so hot. I can say that I had one of those already. Women come and go. There will always be another chick who can match her in looks or be prettier and have other traits and qualities over the other.
[QUOTE=Caffiend; 1138539]I apologize for this very long post but it's an important topic. Anyway here's a summary:
====
I think Hawaii hobbyists should be extra, extra careful for a while because bills in the state legislature that would drastically effect us are the motivation behind this crackdown.
====
Stopping human trafficking is definitely a wonderful goal and the kind of horrible crime the police *should* go after relentlessly. But remember that many anti-trafficking activists are virulently opposed to hobbying in any form. For them "human trafficking" is their new code word for any kind of sex work. Just as the tenuous dangers of second-hand smoke were used to crack down on first-hand smokers (yeah that's my opinion, but it's also a strategy) recasting all prostitution as "slavery" allows them to go after it with renewed public sympathy. It's no longer a victimless crime to the mass of voters.
There's more going on here than just one crackdown. This is a big issue in the current state legislature which is potentially as divisive as civil unions. But this time those with a live-and-let-live attitude are in an even worse position because first they'll accuse you of defending slavery, and if you can get around that you're still a "pervert." It's a no-win.
Here are two lobbying groups on either side of the issue:
[b]Pacific Alliance to Stop Slavery[/b]
[url]http://www.traffickjamming.org/[/url]
More like the Pacific Alliance to Stop Sex, IMO. You have to read a ways down the page, but it becomes clear they are out to punish anyone who thinks our hobby can be victimless. From the school of thought that says banning condoms prevents teen sex.
[b]Arresting Prostitutes is Legal Exploitation[/b]
[url]http://www.aplehawaii.org/2010HawaiiLeg.html[/url]
A sadly outdated and unfinished site, but the information is only a year old and (if you're willing to dig around in the folders) there are articles that lay out the arguments against criminalization quite well. Basically, the site's creator (Tracy Ryan of the Hawaii Libertarian Party) is afraid for women's safety at the hands of overpowered and unscrupulous cops. She posted on the current issue recently on Civil Beat:
[url]http://www.civilbeat.com/comments/8550/[/url]
Disclaimer, FWIW: I don't know the woman and definitely do not consider myself a Libertarian. But I agree with her on this at least.
Speaking of cops, remember that when a crackdown is publicly announced the point is to put pressure on the police as much as anything else. The moment they started planning the operation they started planning their next press conference when they announce "Mission Accomplished" to whatever degree they can. So now we've got a bunch of cops with a mandate who are going to try to maximize "results." And for good or ill, many of them won't be experienced vice cops.
Now I don't doubt they will go after the real scumballs, and more power to 'them in that regard. But I've had enough bosses to know there's rarely such a thing as "enough results." Some cops will cast their net wider than human traffickers for all the reasons that a salesman will go after every potential client. And it's very hard to catch those people as the culture of silence that surrounds it is so tough to crack.
So I for one am not going to make it easy on the cops or the traffickers. I'm going to watch how the legislation proceeds and hold off until votes are cast. If the police can't pad their quota with two-bit hobbyists like me they'll have to work even harder on the traffickers. It's a win-win-win for the good guys (me, the cops, and most importantly the victims).
I haven't even touched on what's in the bills, but this post is too long already. [/QUOTE]It is not win-win-win for the good guys. Not even close. Why are you so naive at the end of your post when you have shown so much sense earlier? All the AMPs and customers that have nothing to do with human trafficking will be badly affected.
It is good that you see through PASS for what it is, a radical, militant, extremist, ideological and fanatical feminist group. It is much worse than the school of thought that says banning condoms prevent safe sex. It is the same kind of militant feminism that supports partial birth abortion and abortion on demand while pretending to be "pro-family."
[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1140152]Hehe, yeah I was only acting silly. I was giggling when I submitted that post. I was hoping someone would reply and start bashing negative comments hehe. Shucks. Man, there's no way I would do that. There's one thing that I've learned from mongering here and overseas is that there's a lot of fine ass chicks out there. So. That's why I'm not soo crazy Into 1 particular girl like she's soo special or so hot. I can say that I had one of those already. Women come and go. There will always be another chick who can match her in looks or be prettier and have other traits and qualities over the other.[/QUOTE]Good. I guessed correctly.
It was a nice Valentine's for me and only cost me $60 for a nice Silver Oak for dinner. BG #2 on the other hand had a spectacular day as customers popped several bottles of bubbly including Dom.
[QUOTE=John Ross; 1140396]Good. I guessed correctly.
It was a nice Valentine's for me and only cost me $60 for a nice Silver Oak for dinner. BG #2 on the other hand had a spectacular day as customers popped several bottles of bubbly including Dom. [/QUOTE]I got to come out of hiding to ask. These girls see you because they love to bone with you or because you buy them handbags every other week? I read your post and the stories werent very smooth to me. Lots of holes.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1140396]$60 for a nice Silver Oak...[/QUOTE]I have a 1985 Silver Oak Cabernet. Think it's still good? I've had it since '87!