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The ladies seem to be back - yea!
chester , i suggested the "chester-scale" months ago. i think it is a great idea though i'm with hoe and feel the pay scale is a bit high. also, the sw rating system could use a little standardization.
i would like to hear some more about the sex workers march or whatever.
take care
Man, the quality of posters has really dropped since the forum was shut down and reopened. I miss the quality posts from before.
First, use a little punctuation, numbnuts. Nobody wants to spend their time parsing through your random word choice and order.
Second, Bukake, obviously a rapist haunting the same places as SWs is your business if for no other reason than it may invite a police presence you don't want.
Third, HHH, you are venerable and respected poster. Nevertheless, your statement that people irritated that there are used condoms in front of their homes need to reset their priorities strikes me as unfair. Open your garage as a parking venue. We'll all dump our used rubbers in there. After a bbbj, the SW will spit the spooge on to the floor. Pretty unpalatable, don't you think? I am no fan of yuppies, but that is not a yuppie issue. It is an everyone issue.
Finally, Chester, how can a guy driving around in something as conspicuous as a green pick-up with a camper top on it in frigging Wicker Park not be noticed? I don't understand. For God's sake, driving anything not produced in Europe in that area stands out, let alone a pick-up with camper top. I just don't understand. This guy should stick out like a sore thumb.
Samedi,
While you may have some good points about LE being used to go after those who voluntarily participate in sex as a business, you are way off base on how to remedy the situation. Randomly vandalizing the property of others, esp. those who you don't even know have anything to do with wasting the time of LE, accomplishes absolutely nothing except bringing LE in for a valid reason. As I said before, use your anger toward something positive. Get involved with individuals or groups who are trying to protect the rights of those who choose to engage in the hobby while respecting the privacy of others.
When you overgeneralize that all yuppies somehow are guilty of violating your rights, you are doing a great disfavor to the majority of them. Yuppies, just like any other group, have their share of good people as well as those who disrespect others. Yuppies, just like any other group, have those who participate in the hobby, as ci-traveler freely will tell you he does. He is not one of the few who are abusing the time of LE and yet you choose to group him in with those who do. You are no better than those who group us all together with those who violate the rights and privacy of others and call LE everytime a couple is getting their jollies.
Go after those who are truly violating the rights of others and let's try to get others to do the same, and leave these people alone who are minding their own business, and hopefully by us setting the example, they will do the same for us.
I really enjoyed Samedi69's last post regarding my post. What I most enjoy about it is that his statements speak so well for themselves that I don't need to comment on them except to say that he is just plain wrong about his conclusions. That - coupled with his anger management issues seems to present a real problem regarding reliability. I think most people know how to read and understand what is written and conclude what is correct and what is bullshit.
For the record - I don't want to hear from a back channeled message that Samedi69 is really NOT throwing down needles when he says that he is. Based on what I have seen him write - he is probably doing everything he says he is - except perhaps picking up the girls. And regardless of what he says - it is clear to me that he has no regard for other people and their lives - which says that, perhaps, he doesn't really understand civility. But then - I've already posted that.
I won't post on him any longer however - as I know the board would rather read about other things. So - my offer here is to let Samedi69 get in his last word following this post and we will leave it at that.
SunriseZone,
Mona...a guy? Did you see something that made you think that? I was going to check her out in the next couple days. I've read reports about her doing nude sessions as well as fs, so I think it would have come up by now.
I seldom see messages regarding the West Side. Specifically, West Madison Street near Western. There is ample activity here and the 'hood is not much worse than others I've seen posted here.
I used to go to Cicero quite a bit but now there is little activity. Is this due to all of the political stuff that happened there in recent months? Years ago I knew a girl named Chrissy. She was in this area. A BB Latino with short dark hair. Have not seen her in some time. Does anyone know what happened to her?
I fully agree with Hoehoehoe on this issue...
one other thing to consider is that raping a woman, even SW's, is going to affect them mentally. Consider that most SW's already have a low self esteem, this would probably cause most to bottom out mentally. I know one girl that was raped not even as brutally as what was described in this forum and she lost it...she started to rob her visitors, or cheat them, and carried a knife which she used. It was unfortunate because prior to that she was simply wonderful.
Guy's the streets are bad enough without a serial rapist on the loose...report him, pick up your cell phones and call in his location. If the local police won't respond then call the state police, but don't let this guy keep spreading poison.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hoehoehoe
[i]sorry, but I think the rapist is everyone's issue. The bottom line is that:
1. He is scaring "good" girls away, leaving the skanks behind
2. There is sort of an "honor amoung theives" at least as I perceive it amongst the hobbyists and the SW, and Mr Green Truck badly violates that unspoken agreement
3. It will lead to girls carrying knives, guns, lord knows what else
4. Its a nasty crime. If the guy in the restaurant sitting next to you, came in, ate for free, punched out the waiter, smashed the front window and walked out, you'd think it was your issue...ditto (just don't take it to extreme and really eat the SW...you know what I mean....
5. Many girls are SWs because they have no real aternatives and think they can do it for a while and be safe...this changes the game materially.
HHH [/i][/QUOTE]
Chester,
You are right about what should be the focus of this group. What should we do to keep the status quo -- our ability to participate in the hobby.
If that means helping the police do their job, fine.
It also means maintaining a low profile in residential neighborhoods, poor/middle/high income doesn't matter. If people are living their lives right where these girls are being picked up, we need to be respectful of people who are not working on the street.
Some of these other posters that seem to be rabble-rousing the girls against the neighborhood residents do not seem to be interested in keeping our hobby as a going concern, they have their own agenda and I don't think it is the same as this group's.
They sound a lot like the spoiled kids from the Autonomous Zone from back when I lived in Wicker Park. They hated the yuppies and posted all sorts of helpful information about how to cause as much property damage as possible. Needless to say, they were mighty surprised when their lease was not renewed. Now they are in Logan Square, but I would not be surprised if some of these posters are just baiting this group and want to cause as much mischief in Wicker Park as possible.
I just want to see helpful messages about REAL people working in various areas of the city. I do think that the most important information that should be provided is a NAME. Along with a general physical description, anyone of us can drive up and talk to a girl on the street and address her by name. Talking to a girl is not against the law, and if you make a mistake and talk to some resident -- all that will happen is they will say "I'm not who you think I am." No hard feelings, no calls to 911.
If you want to talk about girls from Wicker Park, refer to them by Name, be it Tina, Jenny, Sally or whoever. Asking people to pull up to a hot blonde that is dressed as a preppy and ask her "how much for a blow-job?" is not the way to keep LE out of the way.
Normally, I just lurk, and I haven't been active in the hobby for about 2 years until two weeks ago. Looking on this site, there has been no good information given in the last 4-6 weeks aside from Chester's suggestion about pricing.
I saw Sally in Wicker Park, gave her $60 for a BBBJ, and found her to be very pleasant. She is young (19/20) brunette and just hanging out at a bus stop on North Avenue. She doesn't have the I'm so good that I should demand whatever I want today attitude that others are demonstrating. When I asked her about girlfriends, she admitted not knowing many girls around, but didn't get insulted that I would want anyone except her.
So, if you're driving down by North and Claremont, and see a nice looking brunette waiting for the bus -- stop and ask if her name is Sally. If she says yes, continue on and have a good time. If she says she isn't Sally, apologize and move on!
Good luck with the hobby.
NEWNEWS1-I have been very successful over the years with some of the best and cheapest head all along Madison.Never had a bad situation either.As for Cicero and surrounding area-It is a hotbed of LE activity by Chicago PD and Cook County Sheriff Vice.If the girl Chrissy is the one I think it is(a blond)she is in the penetentiary doing for felony prostitution.
60!!! for a BBBJ only no less...sheesh no wonder these chicks think they are gold...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by lundiluvr
[i]I saw Sally in Wicker Park, gave her $60 for a BBBJ, and found her to be very pleasant. She is young (19/20) brunette and just hanging out at a bus stop on North Avenue. She doesn't have the I'm so good that I should demand whatever I want today attitude that others are demonstrating. When I asked her about girlfriends, she admitted not knowing many girls around, but didn't get insulted that I would want anyone except her.
So, if you're driving down by North and Claremont, and see a nice looking brunette waiting for the bus -- stop and ask if her name is Sally. If she says yes, continue on and have a good time. If she says she isn't Sally, apologize and move on!
Good luck with the hobby. [/i][/QUOTE]
bukake: I'm just having a little fun, no offense intended...and yes I have had to pick the hairs out from between the teeth on occaision.
Big D - I don't think I was the one that said that about the condoms. I sure as shit wouldn't like to open the garage door and see 'em there. Must say I do start to get a boner when I see them, though, knowing that some sweet little thing got fucked right there.
So I would, in fact respect a homeowners priorities vis. condoms thrown around, etc. If I did say it, I'd be surprised, but would eat the words (along with an occaisional cutie SW).
HHH
I had great session this morning. I gave it to a black sw real good and hard. Chester, I can see your point but you gotta stop being so polite with these ******. Treat them like the trash that they are. Thats what I say at least. Play hard but play safe. And give it to them good boys.
Hey,
I heard someone mention Cicero, rumor has it that Cook County Sherrif Michael Sheahan used to have family that lived in Cicero, and one day his neice and her daughter were walking down Cicero Ave. and she was propositioned. Well, she told her dad, and the rest is history!! Unfortunate too because that used to be nothing but a hoe strip!! As I was riding down north Ave. last night I saw a black SW with blond hair right by the home depot where the SW's used to hang out by that dead end street!! I also saw one by the Walgreens down by North and Clark the other day too!! That's all for now!!
Bukake,
Chester's a good man. He's logged more info, more good stories and more material than any other person on this board. All you've done is brag about fucking some SW.
Girls getting raped=bad. I'm not going to waster space on here explaining that to you, you moral midget.
Fuck off and die in pieces shiteyes.
Good information:
The girls are back on Lincoln Ave. Up by New Jersey and Lincoln. 2 white girls working the corners, dated one named Josie. About a 5 on the SW scale, but could suck start a twin-engine get. She was very friendly, not rushed or rude. Give her about a 7 for performance. Said she'll be working that corner after 10:30 for the next week or so.
Samedi
I'm not that familiar with New Jersey. Whereabouts (relative a major thoroughfare) does it intersect Lincoln? Expedia's driving directions didn't recognize the New Jersey & Lincoln intersection (and I can't find my fockin map.)
tanks