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If you are going to use SB I would setup a free account with SA. If you see the same girl on both SA and SB, you know they aren't bots.
[QUOTE=LightUUp;4943986]General question for you. I always see you guys reviewing gals on SA, but never see anything about SB. Is that site no good? Inquiring minds.[/QUOTE]
I wonder what kind of replies they get. Since we are the ones paying $90 a month while it's free for women I wish the site would vet them at least a little bit!
I am going to respectfully disagree with the view given below. It has been a few years since I did any real research on SB or SD4 Me but I once tracked profiles on the various sites. I still have the SD4 Me data squirreled away somewhere. Of the new profiles on SD4 Me, a huge percent were duplicates of profiles on SA. Of those profiles, something like 85% signed on once and never signed on again. I only tracked it across an eight week period but it certainly appeared to me that someone was identifying new profiles on SA and copying them over to SD4 Me and other sites. I recall also reading that one of the sites had some boilerplate saying that some profiles were created "for entertainment purposes only. ".
I would not be surprised to learn that sites competing with SA were hiring contractors to create "entertainment profiles. " It would then make sense to me that it would be easier for those contractors to copy new SA profiles than to continually invent new ones from whole cloth. Including finding unsearchable photos to use with them. I could also be completely delusional. All I know is my results on SA are vastly superior to what I found elsewhere.
BAM.
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4944162]If you are going to use SB I would setup a free account with SA. If you see the same girl on both SA and SB, you know they aren't bots.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BamBam;4944824]I am going to respectfully disagree with the view given below. It has been a few years since I did any real research on SB or SD4 Me but I once tracked profiles on the various sites. I still have the SD4 Me data squirreled away somewhere. Of the new profiles on SD4 Me, a huge percent were duplicates of profiles on SA. Of those profiles, something like 85% signed on once and never signed on again. I only tracked it across an eight week period but it certainly appeared to me that someone was identifying new profiles on SA and copying them over to SD4 Me and other sites. I recall also reading that one of the sites had some boilerplate saying that some profiles were created "for entertainment purposes only. ".
I would not be surprised to learn that sites competing with SA were hiring contractors to create "entertainment profiles. " It would then make sense to me that it would be easier for those contractors to copy new SA profiles than to continually invent new ones from whole cloth. Including finding unsearchable photos to use with them. I could also be completely delusional. All I know is my results on SA are vastly superior to what I found elsewhere.
BAM.[/QUOTE]I made an acct on SB for the first time about 2 weeks ago. Totally useless. The profiles are like "worst of" SA. I get these messages 'so-and-so invited you to message them' or such. So I spend 10 credits ($6. 00) to message them. Never a response; not one. And I have great success on SA; these are not off-putting messages. I getting the idea that much of SB is not legit. I wasted $59 on 10 credits.
[QUOTE=CrimsonMan;4944303]I wonder what kind of replies they get. Since we are the ones paying $90 a month while it's free for women I wish the site would vet them at least a little bit![/QUOTE]They probably get their fair share of rude replies from ill-mannered men. If you don't like a profile, just hide it. It's not a big deal.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4945620]I made an acct on SB for the first time about 2 weeks ago. Totally useless. The profiles are like "worst of" SA.[b] I get these messages 'so-and-so invited you to message them' or such.[/b] So I spend 10 credits ($6. 00) to message them. Never a response; not one. And I have great success on SA; these are not off-putting messages. I getting the idea that much of SB is not legit. I wasted $59 on 10 credits.[/QUOTE]Yep! One needs to learn to ignore those emails on SB. After all, all SB has to sell are credits, so they try to get you to spend those credits by creating false interest. If a girl is interested she will message you. Otherwise, ignore the site generated messages that 'so-and-so invited you to message them. ' The site wants you to fall for that as it gets you to spend your credits, then hopefully buy more.
But low reply rates and ghosting by girls is de rigeuer for these sites. No penalty for bad behavior so it abounds. Dudes need to make sure their approach isn't a factor in no replies.
A couple of years back I made a profile on a site called Established Men. I connected w / a girl, great 30's single mom, sweet and not too smart, really stunning. I have also seen her on SA since we stopped hanging out. It is a similar pool of SBs, I recall it not being as broad or as convenient. No reason to switch.
[QUOTE=BamBam;4944824]I am going to respectfully disagree with the view given below. It has been a few years since I did any real research on SB or SD4 Me but I once tracked profiles on the various sites. I still have the SD4 Me data squirreled away somewhere. Of the new profiles on SD4 Me, a huge percent were duplicates of profiles on SA. Of those profiles, something like 85% signed on once and never signed on again. I only tracked it across an eight week period but it certainly appeared to me that someone was identifying new profiles on SA and copying them over to SD4 Me and other sites. I recall also reading that one of the sites had some boilerplate saying that some profiles were created "for entertainment purposes only. ".
I would not be surprised to learn that sites competing with SA were hiring contractors to create "entertainment profiles. " It would then make sense to me that it would be easier for those contractors to copy new SA profiles than to continually invent new ones from whole cloth. Including finding unsearchable photos to use with them. I could also be completely delusional. All I know is my results on SA are vastly superior to what I found elsewhere.
BAM.[/QUOTE]Sd4 me has been total trash for a very long time, no new interesting meets or even chats since last October.
Hey guys,
I've been in the SD / SB world for almost a decade, if not more, and back in the early days this was the single, premier thread, across the country, for sharing info, support and tactics. I pretty much dropped out from posting several years ago because I felt I had nothing more to say, but if you look WAY back in the thread you'll see my posts, for what that is worth.
All that said, I'd love to reconnect with some of my old pals from back in the day, so if any of you read this, PM me and let's chat. I'm still keeping busy, but on a more subdued level.
Looking forward to hearing from you. You know who you are!
Cheers,
Scott.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33d57ca5-da62-4447-8d82-ac44d6ad4d3d[/URL]
Had plans to meet this one for some car fun today for an hour during her lunch break. Initial texting got sexual quick and she's into being treated like a dirty girl with all holes open. While I was waiting for a text about what time her lunch break would start, she sends me a text saying "I can be free tonight and would love to see you" followed quickly by "oops wrong person LOL". I know what SA is for but if I wanted a girl banging multiple guys in the same day I'd be on STG. I texted back that I'd pass and let her focus on her evening plans and she replied that the text was meant for her boyfriend, obvious BS since when we first started talking about what we wanted from the site she said something casual at first with the potential to go out and do things in public together if a connection was made. Plus who has to text that they can be free tonight to a boyfriend.
She was reviewed here a couple weeks ago by someone who said she gave great BJs but got weird and clingy after he didn't text for a couple days. If you're up for a wild but high volume girl give her a try.
[QUOTE=CrimsonMan;4950602][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33d57ca5-da62-4447-8d82-ac44d6ad4d3d[/URL]
Had plans to meet this one for some car fun today for an hour during her lunch break. Initial texting got sexual quick and she's into being treated like a dirty girl with all holes open. While I was waiting for a text about what time her lunch break would start, she sends me a text saying "I can be free tonight and would love to see you" followed quickly by "oops wrong person LOL". I know what SA is for but if I wanted a girl banging multiple guys in the same day I'd be on STG. I texted back that I'd pass and let her focus on her evening plans and she replied that the text was meant for her boyfriend, obvious BS since when we first started talking about what we wanted from the site she said something casual at first with the potential to go out and do things in public together if a connection was made. Plus who has to text that they can be free tonight to a boyfriend.
She was reviewed here a couple weeks ago by someone who said she gave great BJs but got weird and clingy after he didn't text for a couple days. If you're up for a wild but high volume girl give her a try.[/QUOTE]I think you're a little delusional (and I'm not trying to be mean-spirited about this) in 2 ways. One, to think that any SA girl isn't seeing others maybe even the same day, is kinda baseless. We know nothing about them (unless reviewed here). We don't know what they did one day, or 2 hours, before they meet us. Second, you've concluded that she's "high volume" because she was planning a date for the evening after she sees you. Does she see 2 men every day? You don't know.
I'd be put off too if I got that text. But it IS all in your (big not little) head. Truth is we don't know anything about them. And 1/2 or more of what they tell is isn't true anywayl.
Everyone is trying to make money. I looked at her private pictures she's hot as hell. Seems fishy to me, but if legit, I'd hang out with her in a heartbeat, just give me a spot in line!
[QUOTE=Bran001;4951094]I think you're a little delusional (and I'm not trying to be mean-spirited about this) in 2 ways. One, to think that any SA girl isn't seeing others maybe even the same day, is kinda baseless. We know nothing about them (unless reviewed here). We don't know what they did one day, or 2 hours, before they meet us. Second, you've concluded that she's "high volume" because she was planning a date for the evening after she sees you. Does she see 2 men every day? You don't know.
I'd be put off too if I got that text. But it IS all in your (big not little) head. Truth is we don't know anything about them. And 1/2 or more of what they tell is isn't true anywayl.[/QUOTE]
Hey F Scott.
Welcome back! You will find that many of the old names have gone and this thread no longer seems to be the defacto National Sugar Dating thread.
[QUOTE=FScott;4947875]Hey guys,
I've been in the SD / SB world for almost a decade, if not more, and back in the early days this was the single, premier thread, across the country, for sharing info, support and tactics. I pretty much dropped out from posting several years ago because I felt I had nothing more to say, but if you look WAY back in the thread you'll see my posts, for what that is worth.
All that said, I'd love to reconnect with some of my old pals from back in the day, so if any of you read this, PM me and let's chat. I'm still keeping busy, but on a more subdued level.
Looking forward to hearing from you. You know who you are!
Cheers,
Scott.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4952265]Hey F Scott.
Welcome back! You will find that many of the old names have gone and this thread no longer seems to be the defacto National Sugar Dating thread.[/QUOTE]A National thread would be nice. I've sugared in RVA, but mostly in Boston. The Boston thread is pretty active but it's 99% about locals and our reviews / tips about them.
I tried the Reddit 'Sugarlifestyle' sub, but it's ridiculously moderated and run by a lot of GPS women.
[QUOTE=CrimsonMan;4950602][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33d57ca5-da62-4447-8d82-ac44d6ad4d3d[/URL]
Had plans to meet this one for some car fun today for an hour during her lunch break. Initial texting got sexual quick and she's into being treated like a dirty girl with all holes open. While I was waiting for a text about what time her lunch break would start, she sends me a text saying "I can be free tonight and would love to see you" followed quickly by "oops wrong person LOL". I know what SA is for but if I wanted a girl banging multiple guys in the same day I'd be on STG. I texted back that I'd pass and let her focus on her evening plans and she replied that the text was meant for her boyfriend, obvious BS since when we first started talking about what we wanted from the site she said something casual at first with the potential to go out and do things in public together if a connection was made. Plus who has to text that they can be free tonight to a boyfriend.
She was reviewed here a couple weeks ago by someone who said she gave great BJs but got weird and clingy after he didn't text for a couple days. If you're up for a wild but high volume girl give her a try.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I'd like to see her if the price is right. What was the agreed upon allowance?
I have no problem if she's scheduling more than one date again. I go to an amazing Korean AMP in Nova. Two gorgeous Korean's in a luxury gated apartment with two master bedrooms. GFE 45 minutes for $220. Talk about high volume. Open 10 am-11 pm. I only go if I get a 10:00 am - 10:30 am appointment. That way I know my flag is the first planted of the day. Same strategy I'd take with this Baby!
[QUOTE=Bran001;4952274]A National thread would be nice. I've sugared in RVA, but mostly in Boston. The Boston thread is pretty active but it's 99% about locals and our reviews / tips about them.
I tried the Reddit 'Sugarlifestyle' sub, but it's ridiculously moderated and run by a lot of GPS women.[/QUOTE]The archive of this thread is still a hidden gem. I am in southern California, and there are a few veteran posters in my territory. I definitely have little interest in posting 'reviews' of ex-SBs, especially if there was any sort of decent connection or ongoing interaction.
300 for BBFS / cip, but when I ask for a selfie with a thumbs up this is what I got. The person sent me the same pic twice I was rolling on the floor laughing.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5acd54cb-b7b8-49ba-acd7-2d4f0a3d2555[/URL]
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4953287]300 for BBFS / cip, but when I ask for a selfie with a thumbs up this is what I got. The person sent me the same pic twice I was rolling on the floor laughing.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5acd54cb-b7b8-49ba-acd7-2d4f0a3d2555[/URL][/QUOTE]By far, the funniest post I've seen ever on the board, right when I needed it.
I'm having a really shitty run on SA. Just this morning a gorgeous 20 why o SB that I did a M&G with in Raleigh on Monday, agreed to go to the FC tomorrow. Ghosted me for two & a half days then texted me she was disappointed I wanted to bring her to a hotel & get her drunk & take advantage of her? WTF.
Than a local one wanted $450 for an open menu. As I was negotiating she tells me she has rules: she supplies the covers & lube for Greek. Oh, the poor thing has been burned before so send $150 up front! Bye, blocked.
Then a stripper tells me I can buy her lunch for $500? Not even private dancing. GPS? No DPS. Next level shit, Diamond!
I guess I might need to go see a sure thing? Escort or Korean AMP up in Nova.
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4953287]300 for BBFS / cip, but when I ask for a selfie with a thumbs up this is what I got. The person sent me the same pic twice I was rolling on the floor laughing.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5acd54cb-b7b8-49ba-acd7-2d4f0a3d2555[/URL][/QUOTE]That's some mad photoshop skills! LOL.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4953642]That's some mad photoshop skills! LOL.[/QUOTE]Lmao I just talked to her today and she sent me the same pic from her profile with a hand holding up 3 fingers photoshopped in!!
I would hate to be the grandmother of a woman here on SA. Life expectancy is nil! LOL.
Another sick grandmother. That's like 6 in a few days!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6870e21d-431e-42a9-b52f-218c721dc462[/URL]
Definitely legit. Likes to fuck for sure!
[QUOTE=Dakota1212;4952227]Everyone is trying to make money. I looked at her private pictures she's hot as hell. Seems fishy to me, but if legit, I'd hang out with her in a heartbeat, just give me a spot in line![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FScott;4947875]Hey guys,
I've been in the SD / SB world for almost a decade, if not more, and back in the early days this was the single, premier thread, across the country, for sharing info, support and tactics. I pretty much dropped out from posting several years ago because I felt I had nothing more to say, but if you look WAY back in the thread you'll see my posts, for what that is worth.
All that said, I'd love to reconnect with some of my old pals from back in the day, so if any of you read this, PM me and let's chat. I'm still keeping busy, but on a more subdued level.
Looking forward to hearing from you. You know who you are!
Cheers,
Scott.[/QUOTE]Welcome back F Scott my old friend! 2 old timers still fishing, although more subdued as you say. My how things seem to have changed!
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4953812]Lmao I just talked to her today and she sent me the same pic from her profile with a hand holding up 3 fingers photoshopped in!![/QUOTE]Well if it it the same pic with different hand gestures photo-shopped in, then at least you know she is legit?
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4954758]Well if it it the same pic with different hand gestures photo-shopped in, then at least you know she is legit?[/QUOTE]The pics are not her. I called her out and she ended up sending me what said we're her pics. Brunette, little thick, ok looking. Said was sitting in a hotel lobby with no place to go and would I send her $20😂.
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4955489]The pics are not her. I called her out and she ended up sending me what said we're her pics. Brunette, little thick, ok looking. Said was sitting in a hotel lobby with no place to go and would I send her $20😂.[/QUOTE]Oh I read things wrong then! My bad. Wonder what good $20 would do to help her out, while sitting in a hotel? I would have raced to Western Union to send her enough money to pay for the room! Er, NOT! Funny story, appreciate the chuckle and chance to learn about yet another scam!
[QUOTE=BStreet;4954376]Definitely legit. Likes to fuck for sure![/QUOTE]Agreed, I can confirm that she is legit. I can also confirm that she is a bit of high volume. We had pretty extensive conversations about her exploits on SA, Hinge, Tinder, and several other sites. She's also selling feet pics, wearing and then selling panties and lingerie, and then doing private video shows. She's hard up for cash and is just doing what she can do earn a buck. I'm not one to hold that against her and none of it matters to me. Go get yours in my view. But if it matters to you, then so be it. She's a decent person, doesn't have a monkey on her back or anything like that, but like I said in a previous post, she's clingy as all get out and can fly off the handle real quick, which I don't need that volatility out of a SB. To each their own though, there's plenty of SBs out there.
I really think that there is some sort of cycle that applies to the girls interested in sugaring. A week ago, I had several that were messaging eagerly, looking to set up meets. Since Sunday, I have texted all of them, no one has even replied. I have tried to correlate their activity with a full moon before, but the full moon is tomorrow. It's not that. Some of you think the first of the month and bills due motivates girls to get in touch w / SDs, but I am obviously not seeing that.
It's the rent and bills. Had one redhead allow me to cip and record on our 1st date. Msg her 2 weeks later she said she only meetup with me because of her financial hard ship, and that she was not sugaring anymore. I have checked her account, and she hasn't log on in a month. I also get more girls hitting me up around the end of the month. Girls that also ghost me online after msging each other for a few days will hit me up again.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4956616]I really think that there is some sort of cycle that applies to the girls interested in sugaring. A week ago, I had several that were messaging eagerly, looking to set up meets. Since Sunday, I have texted all of them, no one has even replied. I have tried to correlate their activity with a full moon before, but the full moon is tomorrow. It's not that. Some of you think the first of the month and bills due motivates girls to get in touch w / SDs, but I am obviously not seeing that.[/QUOTE]
I would agree that the reddit sugarlifestyle forum has a lot of older escorts pretending to be Sugar Babys and that the moderation limits discussion of value, but that discussion always gets ugly when there are men and women that contribute to the forum.
[QUOTE=Bran001;4952274]A National thread would be nice. I've sugared in RVA, but mostly in Boston. The Boston thread is pretty active but it's 99% about locals and our reviews / tips about them.
I tried the Reddit 'Sugarlifestyle' sub, but it's ridiculously moderated and run by a lot of GPS women.[/QUOTE]
Her profile appears to be down from SA but I've been texting with her. Looking for any info before meeting as she is asking for a steep PPM.
She says she had SDs in college and seems to know the score, but also getting a sense of GPS.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d363fd7-e0e2-45f1-bc81-63f3a8609bc6[/URL]
Offered to cover her real estate license exam costs if she would meet me for lunch and "an afternoon's indulgence" and she got all "That's prostitution" on me.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4956616]I really think that there is some sort of cycle that applies to the girls interested in sugaring. A week ago, I had several that were messaging eagerly, looking to set up meets. Since Sunday, I have texted all of them, no one has even replied. I have tried to correlate their activity with a full moon before, but the full moon is tomorrow. It's not that. Some of you think the first of the month and bills due motivates girls to get in touch w / SDs, but I am obviously not seeing that.[/QUOTE]I agree with Lobsid, end of month sees a marked uptick in Babies needing rent $ & much more likely to go to the FC.
Other trends, beginning of the college semester to pay for books.
Pre Christmas to buy friends & family presents. Dad wouldn't be a happy camper if he knew what his little Princess did for the cash to buy his slippers!
Finally they'll spike up before Spring Break, it amazes me where college kids go. The girls that can't get the cash from good ole' Dad, can always find a helpful Daddy!
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4961479]She says she had SDs in college and seems to know the score, but also getting a sense of GPS.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d363fd7-e0e2-45f1-bc81-63f3a8609bc6[/URL]
Offered to cover her real estate license exam costs if she would meet me for lunch and "an afternoon's indulgence" and she got all "That's prostitution" on me.[/QUOTE]That's because she wants cash. We chatted off and on for a few months and never got together. She give me her snap and seeing her stories made me uninterested in sealing the deal. Kinda trashy, seemed high mileage which wasn't my target when I was on SA.
Occurs to me that perhaps I could upgrade my technique when it comes to searching a girl's phone number.
As of now I use Google to search a number as why! And DuckDuckGo kinda suck.
What other places or ways are "best practice" for searching a phone number?
[URL]USphonebook.com[/URL], cross reference contacts with SnapChat, Kik and Instageam.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4963375]Occurs to me that perhaps I could upgrade my technique when it comes to searching a girl's phone number.
As of now I use Google to search a number as why! And DuckDuckGo kinda suck.
What other places or ways are "best practice" for searching a phone number?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4963843][URL]USphonebook.com[/URL], cross reference contacts with SnapChat, Kik and Instageam.[/QUOTE]I put both my mobile and my wife's mobile in and both brought up names that were not ours. We have had these numbers ever since the iPhone 3 g came out in 2008, so the data is not accurate.
[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4953573]By far, the funniest post I've seen ever on the board, right when I needed it.
I'm having a really shitty run on SA. Just this morning a gorgeous 20 why o SB that I did a M&G with in Raleigh on Monday, agreed to go to the FC tomorrow. Ghosted me for two & a half days then texted me she was disappointed I wanted to bring her to a hotel & get her drunk & take advantage of her? WTF.
Than a local one wanted $450 for an open menu. As I was negotiating she tells me she has rules: she supplies the covers & lube for Greek. Oh, the poor thing has been burned before so send $150 up front! Bye, blocked.
Then a stripper tells me I can buy her lunch for $500? Not even private dancing. GPS? No DPS. Next level shit, Diamond!
I guess I might need to go see a sure thing? Escort or Korean AMP up in Nova.[/QUOTE]Ok, I know this belongs under the escort thread, but for $220 GFE for 45 minutes. BBBJDT, DATY, any position CFE you desire, kisses like a long lost GF, hard to beat it fir a sure thing. Add $40 for CIM, not my jam. They are in a very upscale gated apartment complex in Nova.
Only down side is it's tough to get verified, but once you do they are super responsive to setting up appointments. 10 am-10 pm, M-F. Due to high volumn I only do first appointment of the day. Caught this one on Monday, first appointment of her two week stay.
Toto is probably the best looking, best performance in my decade plus of going here!
[URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com/nikki-lv[/URL]
Thought I'd share with like minded Daddies.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4963375]Occurs to me that perhaps I could upgrade my technique when it comes to searching a girl's phone number.
As of now I use Google to search a number as why! And DuckDuckGo kinda suck.
What other places or ways are "best practice" for searching a phone number?[/QUOTE]Whitepages or TruthFinder, both charge. Seems perhaps 1 in 5 numbers ever come up accurately. Lots of anonymous or voip numbers are in use.
Any info on this one would be appreciated. I contacted her weeks ago and had forgotten about her. She texted me out of the blue tonight. Definitely dtf.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3f9c4640-f678-4ab5-a38d-3bfa79ea588c[/URL]