I've been to strip clubs probably three times ever and I'm wondering how to ask for extras to a dancer. How do you not offend some and how do you not sound like a cop.
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I've been to strip clubs probably three times ever and I'm wondering how to ask for extras to a dancer. How do you not offend some and how do you not sound like a cop.
[QUOTE=Mayhem1;2664057]I've been to strip clubs probably three times ever and I'm wondering how to ask for extras to a dancer. How do you not offend some and how do you not sound like a cop.[/QUOTE]Your not going to offend these girls. As one dancer just told me Monday. "we both know our roles here so tell me what you want". Maybe try " dances are boring I'm interested in something more". Anyway be direct and negotioate in stone before you make one step to the back room. The more casual, direct and relaxed the more fun and less games you will have. Act like you get BJs three times a week there. Humor always helps too.
Has anyone had any experience with Wednesday at bogarts?
I was just wondering whether or not the clubs actually do take a chunk from the girls VIP money in addition to the VIP entrance fees. If so, how would they know how much the girls got? Is there typically a flat fee? Just wondering, on the off chance the girl wasn't lying. Stupid question, and I don't recall reading that that is common practice, but it would might be, I suppose. Does it depend on the club, and if so, what incentive would a girl have to work at one which did IG there were others that didn't?
I am a long time patron of downriver clubs. And recently made several early afternoon visits to the renamed chic on Dix. Physically the club is very comfortable and well done but small. The dancers seem to be more interested in talking to each other rather than customers and any. Dancing seems to be an afterthought and a garment seems to be more interested in cooking its own lunch rather than running the club. I would love to have a little private time with the bar tender but she seems to be the only one who actually does her job. Overall I like the club but will only give its few more visits before I go to other clubs to spend my cash, I haven't spent much here because the girls don't seem to want to interact with customers.
[QUOTE=MichMong;2664162]Your not going to offend these girls. As one dancer just told me Monday. "we both know our roles here so tell me what you want". Maybe try " dances are boring I'm interested in something more". Anyway be direct and negotioate in stone before you make one step to the back room. The more casual, direct and relaxed the more fun and less games you will have. Act like you get BJs three times a week there. Humor always helps too.[/QUOTE]+1 on this.
Everyone knows what everyone else is there for. It isn't a secret. After you sit down and talk to them for a while, lean over and quietly make an offer in her ear "want to go fuck for $100?" (make sure you point out that that $100 includes the number of songs too) Most of the time, they will say yes and go back with you. Some of the girls might try to negotiate higher prices and tell you that they normally get $150 or 200 for that but because they "like you", they could do it for $140 or 160 or whatever. In those cases, counter with $120 max (never more) and that should do it. If she still persists, point out that you can go home and call an escort on BP and get a full hour with one of them for $150 or 200.
Rarely, you will find a girl that just won't come down on her pricing, no matter how well you negotiate. If that's the case, sometimes, you just have to stop thinking with your dick with that girl and walk away. There are plenty of girls who will happily take that same deal but it'll just take you a while longer in the place you're in or you might have to go to a different club to complete the job. If you're in Henry's (either one) or Bogart's, you'll almost never run into this scenario, because all of the girls are aware that the guys know that every girl is an option and that others will take your offer in a heartbeat and they'd lose out on the cash.
For those of you that have read my posts, you'll know that I'm a long time veteran of the strip clubs and MPs. I'm looking for advice or opinions, since I'm in a situation that's alien to me.
Background: I started seeing a girl from a club OTC off an on a while back. She seems very smart and I don't see any evidence of drugs or abuse but she's been acting odd lately. The last time I saw her, it was just for 1/2 hour. In that time period, she asked if she could use my phone to make a call and I let her. Within that time frame, there were calls back to my number from three different phones. I don't get the impression that she has a handler though. I do know that she changes cell phone numbers very quickly too.
Well, things have gotten more odd lately. She's texted me from two different numbers this week, wanting to get together and saying that she really needs the money. Yesterday, she sent me a message asking me to get together for a very discounted rate, because she was completely broke and hadn't eaten. Now, from our previous conversations, I know her father lives locally and she's on decent terms with him and I know she has cousins and friends and I'm quite confident that if she were that hungry, she could go to any of them to eat. I guess I feel like the bottom line to all of that is that she's trying to guilt me in to getting together so she can make some cash to do whatever.
At this point, my thoughts are to cut off communication completely. Which of done so far, since I haven't replied to her messages. I'm just uncomfortable with her behavior at this point and she seems to be more anxious and desperate in regard to getting together to make some cash.
What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2665298] I don't see any evidence of drugs [/QUOTE]I don't see how you can't. Your whole post just screams it.
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What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?[/QUOTE]Obviously, you already know the answer to this. Avoid her like the plague.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2665298]For those of you that have read my posts, you'll know that I'm a long time veteran of the strip clubs and MPs. I'm looking for advice or opinions, since I'm in a situation that's alien to me.
Background: I started seeing a girl from a club OTC off an on a while back. She seems very smart and I don't see any evidence of drugs or abuse but she's been acting odd lately. The last time I saw her, it was just for 1/2 hour. In that time period, she asked if she could use my phone to make a call and I let her. Within that time frame, there were calls back to my number from three different phones. I don't get the impression that she has a handler though. I do know that she changes cell phone numbers very quickly too.
Well, things have gotten more odd lately. She's texted me from two different numbers this week, wanting to get together and saying that she really needs the money. Yesterday, she sent me a message asking me to get together for a very discounted rate, because she was completely broke and hadn't eaten. Now, from our previous conversations, I know her father lives locally and she's on decent terms with him and I know she has cousins and friends and I'm quite confident that if she were that hungry, she could go to any of them to eat. I guess I feel like the bottom line to all of that is that she's trying to guilt me in to getting together so she can make some cash to do whatever.
At this point, my thoughts are to cut off communication completely. Which of done so far, since I haven't replied to her messages. I'm just uncomfortable with her behavior at this point and she seems to be more anxious and desperate in regard to getting together to make some cash.
What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?[/QUOTE]If this is a serious question, the answer is very simple. Yes she is on drugs. Just from reading the board you should know that. Most of the girls in the strip clubs do some sort of drugs. I know a lot pop pills, but your girl is probably on H. It is very much alive in all the clubs. You don't have to see the signs of drug abuse right away. But all the different numbers are most likely dealers, and H is very cheap for a quick fix. She is probably trying to get "straight" since now she is hooked. That's why the discounted prices.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2665298]For those of you that have read my posts, you'll know that I'm a long time veteran of the strip clubs and MPs. I'm looking for advice or opinions, since I'm in a situation that's alien to me.
Background: I started seeing a girl from a club OTC off an on a while back. She seems very smart and I don't see any evidence of drugs or abuse but she's been acting odd lately. The last time I saw her, it was just for 1/2 hour. In that time period, she asked if she could use my phone to make a call and I let her. Within that time frame, there were calls back to my number from three different phones. I don't get the impression that she has a handler though. I do know that she changes cell phone numbers very quickly too.
Well, things have gotten more odd lately. She's texted me from two different numbers this week, wanting to get together and saying that she really needs the money. Yesterday, she sent me a message asking me to get together for a very discounted rate, because she was completely broke and hadn't eaten. Now, from our previous conversations, I know her father lives locally and she's on decent terms with him and I know she has cousins and friends and I'm quite confident that if she were that hungry, she could go to any of them to eat. I guess I feel like the bottom line to all of that is that she's trying to guilt me in to getting together so she can make some cash to do whatever.
At this point, my thoughts are to cut off communication completely. Which of done so far, since I haven't replied to her messages. I'm just uncomfortable with her behavior at this point and she seems to be more anxious and desperate in regard to getting together to make some cash.
What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?[/QUOTE]I would have to say yes. This is the first thing that popped in my mind the chick is on drugs. I have ran into the same situation where the one I was seeing call me a weird hours of the night begging for me to come over had say she would change half the rate. I had to ties. Turn out I was right she was on drugs and ended up getting arrested. So take my advice run now before she gets you into some weird situation with the cops because you were with her at the time.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2665298]For those of you that have read my posts, you'll know that I'm a long time veteran of the strip clubs and MPs. I'm looking for advice or opinions, since I'm in a situation that's alien to me.
Background: I started seeing a girl from a club OTC off an on a while back. She seems very smart and I don't see any evidence of drugs or abuse but she's been acting odd lately. The last time I saw her, it was just for 1/2 hour. In that time period, she asked if she could use my phone to make a call and I let her. Within that time frame, there were calls back to my number from three different phones. I don't get the impression that she has a handler though. I do know that she changes cell phone numbers very quickly too.
Well, things have gotten more odd lately. She's texted me from two different numbers this week, wanting to get together and saying that she really needs the money. Yesterday, she sent me a message asking me to get together for a very discounted rate, because she was completely broke and hadn't eaten. Now, from our previous conversations, I know her father lives locally and she's on decent terms with him and I know she has cousins and friends and I'm quite confident that if she were that hungry, she could go to any of them to eat. I guess I feel like the bottom line to all of that is that she's trying to guilt me in to getting together so she can make some cash to do whatever.
At this point, my thoughts are to cut off communication completely. Which of done so far, since I haven't replied to her messages. I'm just uncomfortable with her behavior at this point and she seems to be more anxious and desperate in regard to getting together to make some cash.
What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?[/QUOTE]Dude take the action at the discounts pricing, I would keep seeing her, just keep a good gap between you two.
Thanks for all of the responses.
Typically, my radar is pretty spot on with the girls I see and have continued to see in the past. I've had some that would contact me on occasion that would ask if I wanted to get together but there was no desperation in the calls and no repeated texting if I couldn't get together at that particular time. This is simply the first situation that I've encountered where I've seen someone who seems to be going off the rails all of a sudden. I'm not good at picking up signs of odd behavior combined with drugs, unless the signs are blatantly obvious. Like track marks or just where they're zoned out. Your remarks have confirmed my suspicions and I'm definitely going to avoid her.
I agree drugs sound like the issue. In terms of signs of drug usage a chick can be on pills and you'd never know, as long as she doesn't see you while high. They're addictive and dangerous, cheap enough for her to pick up for $50 or so hence the reduced rates.
My ATF isn't a stripper but I know she has a pill problem. She hasn't gotten desperate yet but I know it's going to happen one day. It sucks but that's the life, I guess.
[QUOTE=CyberMan76;2665905]I would have to say yes. This is the first thing that popped in my mind the chick is on drugs. I have ran into the same situation where the one I was seeing call me a weird hours of the night begging for me to come over had say she would change half the rate. I had to ties. Turn out I was right she was on drugs and ended up getting arrested. So take my advice run now before she gets you into some weird situation with the cops because you were with her at the time.[/QUOTE]Inbox me pics I'll take her off your hands LOL I been looking for a stripper for Otc I'm not scared.