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Big thanks for getting the forum back online!
[QUOTE=Hunt638;3801523]Somebody on here kept a list of all the phone numbers of all the independent massage girls at century center I don't have them anymore can someone please repost all the Massage girls that are still left at Century Center, I only remember a few rooms most of them are Chinese I forgot there are a couple of Japanese and Only 1 Korean, Thank you for all your help.[/QUOTE]That is confidential information; how do we know that you're not with ICE?
[QUOTE=HonoluluYobo;3802123]That is confidential information; how do we know that you're not with ICE?[/QUOTE]Regarding the Century Center, Yes someone in advance posted all the room numbers of all the girls that still work but I don't have it anymore so no problem I can just go back to the ones that I know are good.
Thank you A2.
Wow, we're back up, and the site loads really fast!
[QUOTE=Hunt638;3802348]Regarding the Century Center, Yes someone in advance posted all the room numbers of all the girls that still work but I don't have it anymore so no problem I can just go back to the ones that I know are good.[/QUOTE]Without being able to post pictures, I don't think business in Century Center will be around a lot longer, or Indies for that matter.
[QUOTE=PVenkman;3803475]Without being able to post pictures, I don't think business in Century Center will be around a lot longer, or Indies for that matter.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't get it. What makes you think the advertisers can't post pictures. Look around at the links referenced in a dozen places in all of the new posts on this board. They ALL include pictures.
[URL]https://youtu.be/sgAYZbnhL3U[/URL]
These chicks definitely give K-Pop girls a run for the $$.
I just saw something that I thought was kind of funny.
I just saw a young teenage boy walking down the sidewalk away from Walgreens, with a big bottle of Nivea hand cream with a big smile on his face.
I just had to laugh out loud!
TLDR- How do we know if AMP providers in Hawaii are victims of sex trafficking?
Don't mean to be a buzz kill, but the recent shutdowns got me thinking once again. How many of these Hawaii providers are victims of sex trafficking? I thought of this before, but turned a blind eye and chose ignorance. One place I used to wonder about was Empire. That place had young asian girls revolving through those doors that it made a guy wonder. Not only were they all young and hot, but most of them gave good service. I haven't mongered in a while due to the finances, but this question is also a factor at the moment. I'm not against paying for sex as long as its ethically sourced (I. E. By at least a 18 year old adult that is choosing to work in the business), but how are we supposed to figure that out?
It seems easy to tell which providers are there on their own based on my conversations with them, but maybe they just can't say anything while in the confines of the parlor. Maybe just one of those girls are forced into that situation. There are so many possible circumstances that its hard to know 100% whether a girl is a provider because she chooses to do so.
Please don't think I'm trying to preach from a high horse, because I'm not. I just want to start a conversation and see what my fellow mongers think. I'm a lurker, but I've been in the game for a few years now. Plus I read The Girl Who Played With Fire, and its all about sex trafficking so that planted the idea in my head. I haven't busted a nut in nearly five months, so in all honesty I might pay a visit somewhere. But, as time passes I may ween off the hobby and find cheaper hobbies like golf. Just kidding.
More than you think. Pimps galore still use AMPs. Empire got busted trafficking, so did mayflower. Happens in the business so hawaii no different. But get mucho more Indy's who like your money and will gladly sell pussy.
Popo should shoot the pimps.
[QUOTE=StickyWeed;3805948]TLDR- How do we know if AMP providers in Hawaii are victims of sex trafficking?
Don't mean to be a buzz kill, but the recent shutdowns got me thinking once again. How many of these Hawaii providers are victims of sex trafficking? I thought of this before, but turned a blind eye and chose ignorance. One place I used to wonder about was Empire. That place had young asian girls revolving through those doors that it made a guy wonder. Not only were they all young and hot, but most of them gave good service. I haven't mongered in a while due to the finances, but this question is also a factor at the moment. I'm not against paying for sex as long as its ethically sourced (I. E. By at least a 18 year old adult that is choosing to work in the business), but how are we supposed to figure that out?
It seems easy to tell which providers are there on their own based on my conversations with them, but maybe they just can't say anything while in the confines of the parlor. Maybe just one of those girls are forced into that situation. There are so many possible circumstances that its hard to know 100% whether a girl is a provider because she chooses to do so.
Please don't think I'm trying to preach from a high horse, because I'm not. I just want to start a conversation and see what my fellow mongers think. I'm a lurker, but I've been in the game for a few years now. Plus I read The Girl Who Played With Fire, and its all about sex trafficking so that planted the idea in my head. I haven't busted a nut in nearly five months, so in all honesty I might pay a visit somewhere. But, as time passes I may ween off the hobby and find cheaper hobbies like golf. Just kidding.[/QUOTE]
I've often wondered that about Empire as well. The girls there did provide superb service. And from what I've gathered from discussions with providers, Ivy did pressure her girls into doing the things that they did. My theory, perhaps one of the disgruntled employees ratted her out to the feds, and hence Empire's demise.
[QUOTE=StickyWeed;3805948]TLDR- How do we know if AMP providers in Hawaii are victims of sex trafficking?
Don't mean to be a buzz kill, but the recent shutdowns got me thinking once again. How many of these Hawaii providers are victims of sex trafficking? I thought of this before, but turned a blind eye and chose ignorance. One place I used to wonder about was Empire. That place had young asian girls revolving through those doors that it made a guy wonder. Not only were they all young and hot, but most of them gave good service. I haven't mongered in a while due to the finances, but this question is also a factor at the moment. I'm not against paying for sex as long as its ethically sourced (I. E. By at least a 18 year old adult that is choosing to work in the business), but how are we supposed to figure that out?
It seems easy to tell which providers are there on their own based on my conversations with them, but maybe they just can't say anything while in the confines of the parlor. Maybe just one of those girls are forced into that situation. There are so many possible circumstances that its hard to know 100% whether a girl is a provider because she chooses to do so.
Please don't think I'm trying to preach from a high horse, because I'm not. I just want to start a conversation and see what my fellow mongers think. I'm a lurker, but I've been in the game for a few years now. Plus I read The Girl Who Played With Fire, and its all about sex trafficking so that planted the idea in my head. I haven't busted a nut in nearly five months, so in all honesty I might pay a visit somewhere. But, as time passes I may ween off the hobby and find cheaper hobbies like golf. Just kidding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpoodrikBrad1;3806303]I've often wondered that about Empire as well. The girls there did provide superb service. And from what I've gathered from discussions with providers, Ivy did pressure her girls into doing the things that they did. My theory, perhaps one of the disgruntled employees ratted her out to the feds, and hence Empire's demise.[/QUOTE]Be friend of ******. The worst scenario is your being charged of misdemeanor prostitution.
Keep certain distance with powerful owner or mamasan who can ask or force ****** to do something special for you.
Cause the worst scenario is your being sentenced not guilty after you spent 100 K for court fighting and lose your decent job and family and honor to make criminal defense, immigration, divorce lawyers happy when you are thought of being involved with human trafficking case. You finally win but you will find you lost all.
Plenty info on what happened in the press. No need theory. Key words trafficking, forced, contracts, deception, INS.
Dark place, very dark.
[QUOTE=SpoodrikBrad1;3806303]I've often wondered that about Empire as well. The girls there did provide superb service. And from what I've gathered from discussions with providers, Ivy did pressure her girls into doing the things that they did. My theory, perhaps one of the disgruntled employees ratted her out to the feds, and hence Empire's demise.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP03aWpZwW0[/URL]