Asian Providers

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037294]For those of us that have HX accounts, you can find the thread in the Safety First club. A quick breakdown for those that don't have accounts. SKParadise hosts out of apartments in Santa Ana and La Jolla, so these threats happened to a client in Santa Ana by the SKParadise booker in a phone call to the client after a fubar attempt at an appointment. We all know that SKP may switch girls on us, they did a switch on me and I'm not using them again. The Santa Ana client had a switch on a prior visit but decided to give them a go anyway.[/QUOTE]How do you see the safety club on HX? I will speak based on experience with most of what you described.

Several members here have reported a switch in the past. I have not experienced it though. Bad cell signals are a thing, both from being deep in a parking garage and also standing behind an elevator block. Always confirm your cell signals or exit the garage - I often confirm by refreshing a webpage. Some locations are labyrinths indeed, it helps to re-read instructions and look at building instructions (maps and the number ranges on the wall with arrows). One SAG / Get9 / SKP location is easy, the other is a labyrinth. A new visitor could easily be 15 minutes late. But with future visits you can cut that down to 3 minutes. It of course was stressful, except we are here for the girls. I will go wherever the girl I want is. And since I will repeat with her, it is a one-time cost.

It is very important not to go to an apartment until you get the room number from the booker. Even if you are absolutely sure which apartment it is. I won't go into the reason but it is a safety issue and you could cause problems for the girl, other mongers who have an appointment near your time, and for the booker. Don't. Use common sense not to hang around within sight of your appointment.

Always avoid escalation. Bookers make mistakes, girls are late. Nothing you can do can improve that situation, do not escalate. We are always held responsible for our own mistakes. It is not fair at all, but again there is nothing to gain here. If a booker or agency is giving bad service, you just have to move on. We have alternatives. The only time I would ever complain is if a girl is legitimately not trying or a problem. Never had to. There is no problem giving feedback on a girl to the booker. Keep it simple.

If you are 20 minutes late, you can still have a good appointment. I have known people and myself stress over less time but usually still finished in time without trying. But it sucks for sure, I am just saying there is no way to improve the situation at that point by escalating.

If there is a lockbox, I will make extra key copies and drop them in. You're welcome. The key is just for accessing the elevator block. So hundreds of people have this same key and it is harmless to make a copy (about $4-$5). I notice some people take keys and don't return them. The most important though is if you take the last key, you must return it. Otherwise someone will have to wait and follow another person in. Pay attention to building numbers and again, the number ranges on the walls with arrows. That is really important. Once you know your way through the labyrinth, it is 2-3 minutes only. Especially if you start near the garage (but not inside) so you still have reception.

Although I have answered calls in the past and it was always harmless, I have learned it is better to never pick up. Text only. Keep it simple unless there is no alternative.

Most threats are idle, though a huge red flag of course. Politeness is not a sign of safety either.

Although I would like to review girls asap to reward them for solid service, I wait some time first. Especially if we have to leave a detailed negative review someday. Sometimes it helps to split reviews between USAG and TER. Or wait some time before reviewing.

If you keep it simple and move on when there are problems, you can enjoy this hobby for decades easily. I have ignored a lot of little problems like this. Though problems are rare. And I can barely remember the problems because the pussy was that good. But in any case, your smartest move is what you do afterwards. We have choices.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037294]For those of us that have HX accounts, you can find the thread in the Safety First club. A quick breakdown for those that don't have accounts. SKParadise hosts out of apartments in Santa Ana and La Jolla, so these threats happened to a client in Santa Ana by the SKParadise booker in a phone call to the client after a fubar attempt at an appointment. We all know that SKP may switch girls on us, they did a switch on me and I'm not using them again. The Santa Ana client had a switch on a prior visit but decided to give them a go anyway.

The situation in Santa Ana was destined for a problem because of 1) bad cell signals, 2) confusing booker directions, 3) apt building with a maze to navigate, an 4) an impatient booker. Our monger friend in the OC had already been to the place before so once given the "apt number' after parking headed to the door he used before. Oops, it's a different room number he was given this time. He roams the hallways, sees another guy doing the same, finally finds the apt on the other side of the building and spends a good 20 min lost roaming the maze of hallways. Sound familiar? Many of these new megalithic apartment complexes have hallways and mazes just like this. So I can sympathize with the monger. Apparently, the booker was giving misleading directions during the door hunt which means the monger is standing out to anyone watching. He booked an hour and due to bad directions from the booker is 20 min late. Knowing that SKP is strict about the hour, he decides to cut his loss and move on. The cell signals are shit especially in the bunker garages so the booker gets pissed. Korean booker, calls the monger. At first he has an accent. Then he starts threatening the monger with violence and the accent turns to perfect English. "I'm going to kick your ass," "I'm going to beat you up". At this point the monger realizes the danger present. For all we know, we are always told "park here" and people are watching, most likely they could bum rush a car and give a beating.

This may have happened up north, but it's the same booker as SD. SKP has been sketchy with us and I've encountered rudeness in txt. I've had a bait and switch on girls but didn't report it because at first glance it could have been an honest mixup. Same thing has happened with other agencies so I chalked it up to a mis-communication. I have NEVER had a booker threaten me! This throws up a huge red light for me with this agency, SKParadise.[/QUOTE]I know for sure the SKP booker is not a Korean with accent.

[QUOTE=JWalker350;7037534]I know for sure the SKP booker is not a Korean with accent.[/QUOTE]Hence the word from the OC Monger "Then he starts threatening the monger with violence and the accent turns to perfect English. ".

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7037492]How do you see the safety club on HX? I will speak based on experience with most of what you described.

Several members here have reported a switch in the past. I have not experienced it though. Bad cell signals are a thing, both from being deep in a parking garage and also standing behind an elevator block. Always confirm your cell signals or exit the garage - I often confirm by refreshing a webpage. Some locations are labyrinths indeed, it helps to re-read instructions and look at building instructions (maps and the number ranges on the wall with arrows). One SAG / Get9 / SKP location is easy, the other is a labyrinth. A new visitor could easily be 15 minutes late. But with future visits you can cut that down to 3 minutes. It of course was stressful, except we are here for the girls. I will go wherever the girl I want is. And since I will repeat with her, it is a one-time cost.
[/QUOTE]The point of my warning was that the booker is NOT Korean and that threats of violence were made to the monger verbally. Do you remember that screening you did? Let's hope you didn't give out any real personal info to the booker.

What a shitshow. Below is from the OC monger verbatim.

"I had used this agency before, but never spoke with the booker. All by text. The guy who threatened me said he is not the regular booker and he would not give me his name. ".

This monger has a good rep on hx and fwiw, I believe him.

The good news is there are many other bookers also booking the same girls. I try to hedge my bets and did try to get in with the SKP booker but at the time he would not accept hx so it went nowhere. In hindsight probably for the best.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037645]Hence the word from the OC Monger "Then he starts threatening the monger with violence and the accent turns to perfect English. ".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037294]For those of us that have HX accounts, you can find the thread in the Safety First club. A quick breakdown for those that don't have accounts. SKParadise hosts out of apartments in Santa Ana and La Jolla, so these threats happened to a client in Santa Ana by the SKParadise booker in a phone call to the client after a fubar attempt at an appointment. We all know that SKP may switch girls on us, they did a switch on me and I'm not using them again. The Santa Ana client had a switch on a prior visit but decided to give them a go anyway.

The situation in Santa Ana was destined for a problem because of 1) bad cell signals, 2) confusing booker directions, 3) apt building with a maze to navigate, an 4) an impatient booker. Our monger friend in the OC had already been to the place before so once given the "apt number' after parking headed to the door he used before. Oops, it's a different room number he was given this time. He roams the hallways, sees another guy doing the same, finally finds the apt on the other side of the building and spends a good 20 min lost roaming the maze of hallways. Sound familiar? Many of these new megalithic apartment complexes have hallways and mazes just like this. So I can sympathize with the monger. Apparently, the booker was giving misleading directions during the door hunt which means the monger is standing out to anyone watching. He booked an hour and due to bad directions from the booker is 20 min late. Knowing that SKP is strict about the hour, he decides to cut his loss and move on. The cell signals are shit especially in the bunker garages so the booker gets pissed. Korean booker, calls the monger. At first he has an accent. Then he starts threatening the monger with violence and the accent turns to perfect English. "I'm going to kick your ass," "I'm going to beat you up". At this point the monger realizes the danger present. For all we know, we are always told "park here" and people are watching, most likely they could bum rush a car and give a beating.

This may have happened up north, but it's the same booker as SD. SKP has been sketchy with us and I've encountered rudeness in txt. I've had a bait and switch on girls but didn't report it because at first glance it could have been an honest mixup. Same thing has happened with other agencies so I chalked it up to a mis-communication. I have NEVER had a booker threaten me! This throws up a huge red light for me with this agency, SKParadise.[/QUOTE]The primary SKP booker is a woman. She is a sweetheart and would never do something like any of this.

I just asked her about this via text and she said they are aware of who this guy is and that he flipped out when he couldn't find the apartment, even with help, and threatened he was going to "ruin them. " So it seems this is his way of trying to do that. Lame.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037651]The point of my warning was that the booker is NOT Korean and that threats of violence were made to the monger verbally. Do you remember that screening you did? Let's hope you didn't give out any real personal info to the booker.[/QUOTE]I can confirm skp booker is very impatient. It was his fault for misreading my text and he scolds me over text about it. They are off my list.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037651]The point of my warning was that the booker is NOT Korean and that threats of violence were made to the monger verbally. Do you remember that screening you did? Let's hope you didn't give out any real personal info to the booker.[/QUOTE]Oh I get that. I have enough references nobody asks for info anymore, I wouldn't use them otherwise. Haven't had to with the last 6 bookers I screened with. That's the beauty of HX and girls knowing your number.

My point was just different tips from my experiences and how to deal with them. I am saying there is a better way.

I'll share something I have long observed. Multiple times I have had more than one person on the same phone number when speaking to a booker. I won't go into details but they are not just one person. This is a matter of fact, I have seen that many times. It's not important other than it could explain the discrepancies people are saying with SKP being a woman etc.. More than one person can operate the SKP line.

The only thing that makes sense to me is if both stories are true. I would not be surprised that the monger flipped out and made threats first but left that out. See it all the time with people I deal with. The story just doesn't add up at all otherwise. Not even a little bit.

I mean just to be clear, I had every single thing you described happen to me, except the ending.

Not that it's okay for either side to make threats. My point is do not escalate.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7037294]For those of us that have HX accounts, you can find the thread in the Safety First club. A quick breakdown for those that don't have accounts. SKParadise hosts out of apartments in Santa Ana and La Jolla, so these threats happened to a client in Santa Ana by the SKParadise booker in a phone call to the client after a fubar attempt at an appointment. We all know that SKP may switch girls on us, they did a switch on me and I'm not using them again. The Santa Ana client had a switch on a prior visit but decided to give them a go anyway.

The situation in Santa Ana was destined for a problem because of 1) bad cell signals, 2) confusing booker directions, 3) apt building with a maze to navigate, an 4) an impatient booker. Our monger friend in the OC had already been to the place before so once given the "apt number' after parking headed to the door he used before. Oops, it's a different room number he was given this time. He roams the hallways, sees another guy doing the same, finally finds the apt on the other side of the building and spends a good 20 min lost roaming the maze of hallways. Sound familiar? Many of these new megalithic apartment complexes have hallways and mazes just like this. So I can sympathize with the monger. Apparently, the booker was giving misleading directions during the door hunt which means the monger is standing out to anyone watching. He booked an hour and due to bad directions from the booker is 20 min late. Knowing that SKP is strict about the hour, he decides to cut his loss and move on. The cell signals are shit especially in the bunker garages so the booker gets pissed. Korean booker, calls the monger. At first he has an accent. Then he starts threatening the monger with violence and the accent turns to perfect English. "I'm going to kick your ass," "I'm going to beat you up". At this point the monger realizes the danger present. For all we know, we are always told "park here" and people are watching, most likely they could bum rush a car and give a beating.

This may have happened up north, but it's the same booker as SD. SKP has been sketchy with us and I've encountered rudeness in txt. I've had a bait and switch on girls but didn't report it because at first glance it could have been an honest mixup. Same thing has happened with other agencies so I chalked it up to a mis-communication. I have NEVER had a booker threaten me! This throws up a huge red light for me with this agency, SKParadise.[/QUOTE]I have also seen the safety boards on HX and cannot say I trust everything on there all the time. I would love to meet some of those cock blockers sometime.

SKP booker has always been a pleasure to book with. Always clutch for me and always values my feedback.

I did notice that the cellular data signals in the garage can be very bad so it is possible to have text delays or sometimes the text message does not go through.

[QUOTE=Msog1;7037813]I have also seen the safety boards on HX and cannot say I trust everything on there all the time. I would love to meet some of those cock blockers sometime.

SKP booker has always been a pleasure to book with. Always clutch for me and always values my feedback.

I did notice that the cellular data signals in the garage can be very bad so it is possible to have text delays or sometimes the text message does not go through.[/QUOTE]As we all know, SKP has multiple bookers. We really don't know if the person replying to our text is male, female, Korean or Russian. No way to tell that. In this event, the OP reported a phone call with the booker and that booker was a male. No doubt this was a series of FUBAR events caused by bad communication, poor cell quality, possible bait and switch, and a verbal exchange of words to which we have no record. One side will show screen shots. AI and Photoshop can easily bend those to say whatever you want. The thread on HX from SKP totally deflects the fact that verbal threats were made by the booker as reported. SKP's attempt at deflection, probably by another booker, convinces me that at some point the verbal conversation did escalate to the point of shouting and threats. Threats from both sides? Possibly because we tend to respond to yelling by posturing and returning those verbal threats. Overall, the SKP booker should never give the threats that he did. Arguing is acceptable. Threats are not.

SKP will throw at us several screen shots of a text convo. As stated, those images can be manipulated by AI and Photoshop. What SKP can not do is play back a recording of the verbal phone conversation. There are no winners here.

The age old dilemma, if I gatekeep a girl I can book her more easily and she is a little bit fresher when I see her. Or, I can reward the girl by shouting from the rooftops that she is wonderful. I tend to do the latter. No girl is for everyone so I will just try to describe her accurately. But a lot of guys will like Allie, and many already do.

Allie is maybe 5'4", nice body, face nice to look at, good attitude, full tits maybe C cup natural, dark skin, maybe late 20's, enjoys sex. Dfk, balls licking without asking which I consider good manners. Not skinny or fat, she is completely normal size and proportions with a great body shape. Tits are wonderful to grab especially while standing or with her bra on - great naturals. Straight black hair to below the shoulder, soft skin that makes her wonderful to touch and hold. Very limited English but will use a translator. In my opinion she is very good looking but that is personal taste. She is special.

To respect girls' privacy I will leave out details but say she aims to please. My own suggestion is to start slow, she is very sensitive down there so gentle indirect action is best. Her English is limited so read a girl's body language and she will worship you. She loves to touch herself during sex. She is 320 all-in so very budget friendly like Bona was. Can take more than Bona could both size-wise and duration. DTB.

[B]THE VERDICT[/B]
Gentlemen, we now have a jury of 6 peers including myself so allow me to pronounce the verdict. On the count of hot, Allie is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. On every count, head to toe. On the count of good service, also very guilty. Her sentence will be: multiple repeat visits. Be considerate and reasonable so we don't wear her out too soon, she is popular after all. Allie is TER 390723.

Others who have reviewed her:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=7033105&highlight=allie#post7033105[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=7032982&highlight=allie#post7032982[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6984230&highlight=allie#post6984230[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6970459&highlight=allie#post6970459[/URL]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6968034&highlight=allie#post6968034[/URL]

Some accolades from those fine critics:
"..sexual appetite. See for yourself".
"Attractive and, nice surprise, real breasts. She's sweet and wants to please".
"She is total GFE, and just oozes sensuality. One of the best I've had in a long time".
"Maybe 5'4 115. She was cheerful. Very sweet attitude. Gave her all for the full hour in all positions and lots of Dfk. She wanted it very slow and gentle. Eventually took her to pound town. She Wanted to suck a lot as her pussy probably sore from a long day. Highly recommend".
"I'd say she's a 9 in looks and 9 performance. Allie is top-tier".

Lastly, about the location there is a lockbox you get a key from. Return the key after. It may be hard to see the combo depending on your eyes and lighting, in the worst case use a phone to take a picture and zoom in. There is limited guest parking outside at both ends, or you can park where booker directs. There are three garages so make sure you are at the central garage matching the address the booker gives. There are two elevators inside the garage, either straight ahead to the middle of the garage (turn left to face the door) or go left to the end. The straight ahead elevator is a little closer. The key unlocks the door to the elevator. Go to the floor the booker says (the room number has no relation to the floor). I always had phone reception, so it's not an issue here. Follow the numbers to the room. The 2nd elevator (not closest) has a floor map in case you prefer to see. 2nd visit will be much faster. Girl was always ready on time but ymmv. If you will repeat in the future, you might make an extra key copy or two and return them soon after. Just don't hold onto the last key so she can make her appointments. Be patient, you can have a lot of fun and still have plenty extra time. Don't rush or stress over it.

I have had no problems with any booker, use what works for you. All 3 kgirl agencies we can discuss here have OC branches, so being in with the SD branch opens things up for OC if you need it there. Lots of great choices between both cities.

One of the reasons for gatekeeping is we hate to hear of a girl getting worn out. Happened to Bona at times. OTOH everyone deserves a fair shot at these girls, and reviews are a way to support and thank them. It's necessary. She is special, treat her right.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;7038414]As we all know, SKP has multiple bookers. We really don't know if the person replying to our text is male, female, Korean or Russian. No way to tell that. In this event, the OP reported a phone call with the booker and that booker was a male. No doubt this was a series of FUBAR events caused by bad communication, poor cell quality, possible bait and switch, and a verbal exchange of words to which we have no record. One side will show screen shots. AI and Photoshop can easily bend those to say whatever you want. The thread on HX from SKP totally deflects the fact that verbal threats were made by the booker as reported. SKP's attempt at deflection, probably by another booker, convinces me that at some point the verbal conversation did escalate to the point of shouting and threats. Threats from both sides? Possibly because we tend to respond to yelling by posturing and returning those verbal threats. Overall, the SKP booker should never give the threats that he did. Arguing is acceptable. Threats are not.

SKP will throw at us several screen shots of a text convo. As stated, those images can be manipulated by AI and Photoshop. What SKP can not do is play back a recording of the verbal phone conversation. There are no winners here.[/QUOTE]What is an OP?

Why do we need to know the race and gender of a booker?

Bad customer service happens all the time. Even Disneyland has people that complain.

These issues might be best for the Stupid Shit forum. Something does not seem right.

I also enjoy reading chat about "Asian Providers", which is the title of this forum. As far as SKParadise goes, I'm impressed they brought Dana here and everyone complained about how hard she was to book. Her pussy was real good. I doubt I would have been able to book her as efficiently. More girls like that are what we need.

But don't get me wrong I respect everyone's opinion.

Couldn't agree more with your philosophy. Girls like Allie are a treasure, meant to be shared and cherished. Hard to believe she has been here this long. I am dreading the day she moves on, which may be near I fear.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;7038781]The age old dilemma, if I gatekeep a girl I can book her more easily and she is a little bit fresher when I see her. Or, I can reward the girl by shouting from the rooftops that she is wonderful. I tend to do the latter.

One of the reasons for gatekeeping is we hate to hear of a girl getting worn out. Happened to Bona at times. OTOH everyone deserves a fair shot at these girls, and reviews are a way to support and thank them. It's necessary. She is special, treat her right.[/QUOTE]

The OC monger has given a VERY poor account of himself over on HX today. I no longer believe his narrative. He and his minions appear to be trying to smear SKP. Lame indeed.

[QUOTE=BrainLara;7037660]
This monger has a good rep on hx and fwiw, I believe him.
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I decided to take the plunge on Suki at SDAG today after all of the rave reviews. Really wanted to add to my personal video collection especially since it's become more rare, but of course I didn't have my hobby phone on me today LOL.

Suki is tiny! Spinner with some of the smallest tits I've seen, but I was digging it. BBBJCIM for the first round. Nice suction and just kept going at rhythm without stopping other than to smack her tongue and lips a few times with it. A++ Cuddled a bit before round 2. Some nipple play followed by another outstanding BBBJ. Could've probably had her do that for the rest of the session, but I wanted to pound her out. Had her climb on top after she put the tightest condom I've ever worn on (not bad, just surprising LOL) and she rode me for a few min after I started jackhammering her from underneath. Flipped her on her back and she pulled her hair out of her clip which gave me an extra boost of energy. Pounded her out deep to complete round 2. Sex game was an A. Took a nice shower and some small talk before leaving.

Jasmin / Elsa is still my ATF at SDAG (followed by Cherry) for BBBJCIM, but I'd gladly see Suki again especially if I remember to bring my hobby phone for the video.

Stella is my other SDAG ATF if I don't need the CIM that day. Hope the Latinas come back soon.