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[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;5755550]My family in France actually took to the streets in protest at the threat of loosing socialism.
No one has to be pinned into a determined label.
Actually, I'm nothing, no labels. Fuck everything, LOL.[/QUOTE]Many would take to the streets here before seeing socialism let loose!
I agree with you on the labels, though. Spa? Massage? CAMP? KAMP? Can't we just enjoy all that they have to offer? Must we choose one or the other?
I say no. Vive la difference.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;5754739]First you called him a Communist the a Socialist. Please calm down and keep it civil.
I am a Socialist, I'm from Ireland, a Socialist country inside a mostly Socialist continent (Europe).
So please don't pin us together with Communists, it is not the same thing.
Communism and Socialism are not the same. In communism like Cuba, you cannot have private property and the means of production are controlled by the state.
In Socialism, you can be a billionaire. Socialism its just a type of governing geared to benefit society (Hence Socialism) They don't take away your money to give it to the poor. They just use taxes mainly for social well being, like medicine, roads, bridges, education, police, firefighters etc.
I hate to break this to ya, and I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying this but the USA is already 95% socialist. All its missing is healthcare and college.[/QUOTE]Sorry Pete, but your take on Socialism is naive at best. Check out Venezuela when they went Socialist and see how that country spiraled into chaos. You are welcome to your opinion. This is America, after all. But, if you want to be a Socialist then I suggest you go back to Ireland. Socialists don't take away your money to give it to the poor? How long have you been here anyway? The Democrats have been doing exactly that since the mid-60's and it has accomplished nothing except creating a welfare state and a permanently dependent underclass. Socialism is a Utopian fantasy that can never be achieved primarily because, human nature being what it is, it will always morph into totalitarianism. It is what is happening in this country today. If you truly desire Socialism in this country then prepare for civil war because millions and millions of us are ready to make sure that this country never becomes a Socialist nation irrespective of your assertion that we are already 95% there. Ireland may indeed be Socialist in your terms. We will never be.
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;5756763]You just can't leave somebody to die. I had a situation many years ago where a girl basically passed out on me. I didn't know what was going on. I made sure she didn't choke on vomit and stuff like that. She claimed she didn't do drugs. I finally said to myself f* it, no one is dying on my watch. I was literally in the process of picking up the phone. She came to about then and told me not to call. I was really afraid she would die on me. I hadn't done anything, I hadn't touched her, I definitely hadn't given her any drugs. Iirc, we had both had a drink and that was it. Maybe the alcohol had reacted with some otc meds she had taken, I just don't know. She eventually got herself back to her place. No matter the situation, you just can't allow somebody to die right in front of you.[/QUOTE]But you're a liar, Joe. You even continue to lie after it's shown to you that you lied. What's up with that? You lying now? 'No one is dying on my watch' LOL. Motherfucking Capt America. I'm disappointed with all this. Here I was looking forward to getting old and fat so I could be just like my buddy Joe. An old fat man picking up the hottest strippers, shot girls and waitresses and taking them home w / o spending one thin dime. But now I don't know if that's true or also some made up bullshit.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5756747]Sorry Pete, but your take on Socialism is naive at best. Check out Venezuela when they went Socialist and see how that country spiraled into chaos. You are welcome to your opinion. This is America, after all. But, if you want to be a Socialist then I suggest you go back to Ireland. Socialists don't take away your money to give it to the poor? How long have you been here anyway? The Democrats have been doing exactly that since the mid-60's and it has accomplished nothing except creating a welfare state and a permanently dependent underclass. Socialism is a Utopian fantasy that can never be achieved primarily because, human nature being what it is, it will always morph into totalitarianism. It is what is happening in this country today. If you truly desire Socialism in this country then prepare for civil war because millions and millions of us are ready to make sure that this country never becomes a Socialist nation irrespective of your assertion that we are already 95% there. Ireland may indeed be Socialist in your terms. We will never be.[/QUOTE]Is Medicare socialism? Is Social Security socialism? Is the VA socialism? Education? I sure hope you reject any checks from the US government that's not a tax refund.
The problem with dipshits like you, is identity politics is everything you crave. You can't tell the difference between "democratic socialism" or "revolutionary socialism. " You're only happy if you get to be white and exploit everyone that's not like you. Since you aren't sharp enough to pick up a dictionary or history book, you get frightened by a bogeyman with nothing more than someone saying "socialism. " In other words, you're fucking stupid and I am not worried one bit about you and your LARPers screaming "civil war. " It will be a short one before you all go back and sit in the fucking corner. Well..the ones that are still able to. lol
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5757417]Is Medicare socialism? Is Social Security socialism? Is the VA socialism? Education? I sure hope you reject any checks from the US government that's not a tax refund.
The problem with dipshits like you, is identity politics is everything you crave. You can't tell the difference between "democratic socialism" or "revolutionary socialism. " You're only happy if you get to be white and exploit everyone that's not like you. Since you aren't sharp enough to pick up a dictionary or history book, you get frightened by a bogeyman with nothing more than someone saying "socialism. " In other words, you're fucking stupid and I am not worried one bit about you and your LARPers screaming "civil war. " It will be a short one before you all go back and sit in the fucking corner. Well..the ones that are still able to. lol[/QUOTE]Shhhhh, RogieBoy. This is an adult exchange between me and Pete so no soiled diaper brats like you are allowed to participate. Run along now like a good little putz, dipshit.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5757492]Shhhhh, RogieBoy. This is an adult exchange between me and Pete so no soiled diaper brats like you are allowed to participate. Run along now like a good little putz, dipshit.[/QUOTE]LOL. Fucking pussy. Can't even address any of the shit I asked. You are a cowardly little twat.
[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5756747]Sorry Pete, but your take on Socialism is naive at best. Check out Venezuela when they went Socialist and see how that country spiraled into chaos. You are welcome to your opinion. This is America, after all. But, if you want to be a Socialist then I suggest you go back to Ireland. Socialists don't take away your money to give it to the poor? How long have you been here anyway? The Democrats have been doing exactly that since the mid-60's and it has accomplished nothing except creating a welfare state and a permanently dependent underclass. Socialism is a Utopian fantasy that can never be achieved primarily because, human nature being what it is, it will always morph into totalitarianism. It is what is happening in this country today. If you truly desire Socialism in this country then prepare for civil war because millions and millions of us are ready to make sure that this country never becomes a Socialist nation irrespective of your assertion that we are already 95% there. Ireland may indeed be Socialist in your terms. We will never be.[/QUOTE]How can my view be naïve if I live there half of my life, almost 20 years, and my direct family continues to live there. Your based on what you read or watch on the news and I'm based on my life experience.
The media tells you to compare socialism to what happens in Venezuela or Cuba which are two very different things, those are communist and totalitarian countries. Europe has been a socialist for decades and decades and it's not spiraling towards nothing it's getting better and better. I'm actually among many other things, you're right maybe I should go back to Ireland since I have free education and free healthcare.
Corporations have brainwashed people into thinking that Socialism is an utopia mean while millions upon millions of people are living in it across Europe and Australia.
And yes, Most of the systems in this country are in fact socialist, when's the last time you sent the check to a fireman.
But anyway, you're a cool dude and bright as well and I don't want to argue with you, because at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, eventually I will be moving back home or somewhere a little bit warmer like Spain or Italy.
And we will all be happy.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;5757659]How can my view be nave if I live there half of my life, almost 20 years, and my direct family continues to live there. Your based on what you read or watch on the news and I'm based on my life experience.
The media tells you to compare socialism to what happens in Venezuela or Cuba which are two very different things, those are communist and totalitarian countries. Europe has been a socialist for decades and decades and it's not spiraling towards nothing it's getting better and better. I'm actually among many other things, you're right maybe I should go back to Ireland since I have free education and free healthcare.
Corporations have brainwashed people into thinking that Socialism is an utopia mean while millions upon millions of people are living in it across Europe and Australia.
And yes, Most of the systems in this country are in fact socialist, when's the last time you sent the check to a fireman.
But anyway, you're a cool dude and bright as well and I don't want to argue with you, because at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, eventually I will be moving back home or somewhere a little bit warmer like Spain or Italy.
And we will all be happy.[/QUOTE]Pete, I have thirty years more life experience than you. I was there in the sixties in Birmingham, AL. When the civil rights battles were all around, on the streets and in the schools, heard the concussion of the bomb when the 16th. ST. Baptist Church was blown up by the Klan and later learned that the thugs who blew up the church were men in my neighbourhood. In other words, I have lived it and not just read about it, in a different place than you but the point is that I have lived it and seen it and know the origins of the American version of socialism. However, I do appreciate your insights and where you are coming from. Thank you. By the way, I'd go with Spain if I were you. Been to both places and the food is better there and the women better looking too, especially those flamenco dancers. Good luck out there wherever you end up.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5757417]Is Medicare socialism? Is Social Security socialism? Is the VA socialism? Education? I sure hope you reject any checks from the US government that's not a tax refund.
The problem with dipshits like you, is identity politics is everything you crave. You can't tell the difference between "democratic socialism" or "revolutionary socialism. " You're only happy if you get to be white and exploit everyone that's not like you. Since you aren't sharp enough to pick up a dictionary or history book, you get frightened by a bogeyman with nothing more than someone saying "socialism. " In other words, you're fucking stupid and I am not worried one bit about you and your LARPers screaming "civil war. " It will be a short one before you all go back and sit in the fucking corner. Well..the ones that are still able to. lol[/QUOTE]You're really asking me if Social security is Sicialism?
Okey ill answer each one of your questions. Yes, yes, yes, yes and no, I cash the checks.
And yes, of course were talking about democratic socialism.
The rest I won't respond because I don't condone aggression and insults.
Like I said before, its just labels, do what makes you happy, who cares anyway.
Are you that crazy? I will also answer.
Is Medicare socialism? In a sense, yes. An I paid into it for many years and still do.
Is Social Security socialism? It is because it is government forced retirement supplement. It is also a shitty return on my investment since I was forced to pay into it and would have done far better. Damn right I cash the check, I paid into that system so it is my money anyway.
Is the VA socialism? Not sure what you are asking so I will break it down.
Military Pension is NOT Socialism any more than a pension from any other corporation in America
VA Medical Benefits, It is and I only use to the bare minimum because I got hearing aids from them due to my hearing loss in the Army. Otherwise, I use my personal Doctor and military retired medical insurance
Education? Grade School? Absolutely and again, they take the $$ from us every year. When I could afford it, my kids went to a private school because they are government indoctrination centers.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;5758252]You're really asking me if Social security is Sicialism?
Okey ill answer each one of your questions. Yes, yes, yes, yes and no, I cash the checks.
And yes, of course were talking about democratic socialism.
The rest I won't respond because I don't condone aggression and insults.
Like I said before, its just labels, do what makes you happy, who cares anyway.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5757417]Is Medicare socialism? Is Social Security socialism? Is the VA socialism? Education? I sure hope you reject any checks from the US government that's not a tax refund.
The problem with dipshits like you, is identity politics is everything you crave. You can't tell the difference between "democratic socialism" or "revolutionary socialism. " You're only happy if you get to be white and exploit everyone that's not like you. Since you aren't sharp enough to pick up a dictionary or history book, you get frightened by a bogeyman with nothing more than someone saying "socialism. " In other words, you're fucking stupid and I am not worried one bit about you and your LARPers screaming "civil war. " It will be a short one before you all go back and sit in the fucking corner. Well..the ones that are still able to. lol[/QUOTE]
Detailed information from federal lawsuit filed under oath by three named military doctors. Data is from every doctor / hospital visit by each and every active duty military, reserve and guard. All who have been mandated to get clotshot. Percentage increases are an one year increase, 2021 vs. the average of the previous five years.
Hypertension 2,181% increase.
Diseases of the nervous system 1,048% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of esophagus 894% increase.
Multiple sclerosis 680% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs 624% increase.
Guillain-Barre syndrome 551% increase.
Breast cancer 487% increase.
Demyelinating 487% increase.
Neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands 474% increase.
Female infertility 472% increase.
Pulmonary embolism 468% increase.
Migraines 452% increase.
Ovarian dysfunction 437% increase.
Testicular cancer 369% increase.
Tachycardia 302% increase.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5759164]Detailed information from federal lawsuit filed under oath by three named military doctors. Data is from every doctor / hospital visit by each and every active duty military, reserve and guard. All who have been mandated to get clotshot. Percentage increases are an one year increase, 2021 vs. the average of the previous five years.
Hypertension 2,181% increase.
Diseases of the nervous system 1,048% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of esophagus 894% increase.
Multiple sclerosis 680% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs 624% increase.
Guillain-Barre syndrome 551% increase.
Breast cancer 487% increase.
Demyelinating 487% increase.
Neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands 474% increase.
Female infertility 472% increase.
Pulmonary embolism 468% increase.
Migraines 452% increase.
Ovarian dysfunction 437% increase.
Testicular cancer 369% increase.
Tachycardia 302% increase.[/QUOTE]I've made the decision to finally get the jab. My appointment is for 10 am February 30th. May the odds be ever in my favor.
Cite your sources or its disinformation, dickhead.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5759164]Detailed information from federal lawsuit filed under oath by three named military doctors. Data is from every doctor / hospital visit by each and every active duty military, reserve and guard. All who have been mandated to get clotshot. Percentage increases are an one year increase, 2021 vs. the average of the previous five years.
Hypertension 2,181% increase.
Diseases of the nervous system 1,048% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of esophagus 894% increase.
Multiple sclerosis 680% increase.
Malignant neoplasms of digestive organs 624% increase.
Guillain-Barre syndrome 551% increase.
Breast cancer 487% increase.
Demyelinating 487% increase.
Neoplasms of thyroid and other endocrine glands 474% increase.
Female infertility 472% increase.
Pulmonary embolism 468% increase.
Migraines 452% increase.
Tachycardia 302% increase.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gatsby32;5759546]Prologue: Me no like these numbers. Thought process: Me had two clot shots and one clot boost. Me fat boy. Me now scared. Me now mad and attack and call names who show me numbers that mad me. The comment: Cite your sources or its disinformation, dickhead.[/QUOTE]
'federal lawsuit filed under oath by three named military doctors'
There's your starting point for an internet search
[QUOTE=Gatsby32;5759546]Cite your sources or its disinformation, dickhead.[/QUOTE]There aren't any. You Google for all of this stuff and it never comes up. I found some stuff behind a paywall, but it was just more claims and nothing actually done under oath with evidence.