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[QUOTE=BrooklynMatt;6008665]Damn. I reached out to her recently but she didn't respond. I'm glad she didn't as I definitely won't be seeing her or anyone else from this crew. I'm probably moments away from taking a long break from this. It's gotten to the point where the girls I want to see I don't want to pay for ($500 and up) and the ones who are cheaper I'm not really interested in seeing. Plus ad on that AMPs and houses are hotbeds of human trafficking adds on a disturbing level to this whole thing.[/QUOTE]There are problems on both sides of the supply and demand of this hobby. Like that article said less men are paying for this. And on the supply side it seems less and less women are entering into sex work. Just look at the 18-23 age group. Just 5 years ago you could get so many UTR 18-23 aged providers off craigslist. Nowadays it is fucked up to say this but if you see a provider aged 18-23 age on sites like STG and escortalligator they probably being trafficked out of hotels. I'm not saying all women 18-23 are trafficked it just seems young women don't be trying to become escorts on STG as much as they did 10-15 years ago in craigslist prime.

I remember a time when every week you could see at least 100 new providers in each boroughs section now you are lucky if you get 10 new ones. There was a time within 15 mins a provider was off the front page on escort sites. Now they might be on first page for hours. I can see why you are thinking of a long break. I don't really see this being fixed any time soon. Looking back to the golden age of 2007-2010. That period had a massive recession and two major sites of craigslist and backpage where most clients and providers went. Nowadays there are so many places that take potential providers out the market such as Tinder, * etc.

[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6008754]There are problems on both sides of the supply and demand of this hobby. Like that article said less men are paying for this. And on the supply side it seems less and less women are entering into sex work. Just look at the 18-23 age group. Just 5 years ago you could get so many UTR 18-23 aged providers off craigslist. Nowadays it is fucked up to say this but if you see a provider aged 18-23 age on sites like STG and escortalligator they probably being trafficked out of hotels. I'm not saying all women 18-23 are trafficked it just seems young women don't be trying to become escorts on STG as much as they did 10-15 years ago in craigslist prime.

I remember a time when every week you could see at least 100 new providers in each boroughs section now you are lucky if you get 10 new ones. There was a time within 15 mins a provider was off the front page on escort sites. Now they might be on first page for hours. I can see why you are thinking of a long break. I don't really see this being fixed any time soon. Looking back to the golden age of 2007-2010. That period had a massive recession and two major sites of craigslist and backpage where most clients and providers went. Nowadays there are so many places that take potential providers out the market such as Tinder, * etc.[/QUOTE]At this point I guess we all got to save save save up money now cause these new girls are not it.

I'm still deciding on whether I should go see her or nor she charging ss 100 15 minutes smh. The struggles these days with these stupid girls.

Has anyone been here yet how is it?

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/newyork/queens/85859873[/URL]

It's nuts because there are literally girls who do stuff like this and have no issue doing much more than what you need. I once did 250 but spent 8 hours with a knock out who did every single thing I asked and even showered with me at the end.

Giving two sources since the major news site CBS gives very little info.
[URL]https://rajacreator.com/3755674-2/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/charline-santiago-jonathan-ruiz-sex-trafficking-ring-new-york/[/URL]

I remember that crew. The woman I saw from it recorded clients in secret. She went by Lilly caught the camera and threatened to leave. She claimed she would get beaten if she didn't record 3 videos a week. Her hour was 250 but she gave it to me for 150 as long as I didn't say it through text because she said someone else reads her texts. had to say I was there for a half hour and come earlier than my time. She seemed cool.

Here was Lilly ad along with another from group.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lilly-wants-some-fun/36135774[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/ashley-snowbunny/35342585[/URL]

There were others such providers named Angelina and Danielle but when I searched the forum none of them had reviews so I kinda stopped looking for the others since I thought maybe no one saw any of the providers from the group.

[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6015051]Giving two sources since the major news site CBS gives very little info.
[URL]https://rajacreator.com/3755674-2/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/charline-santiago-jonathan-ruiz-sex-trafficking-ring-new-york/[/URL]

I remember that crew. The woman I saw from it recorded clients in secret. She went by Lilly caught the camera and threatened to leave. She claimed she would get beaten if she didn't record 3 videos a week. Her hour was 250 but she gave it to me for 150 as long as I didn't say it through text because she said someone else reads her texts. had to say I was there for a half hour and come earlier than my time. She seemed cool.

Here was Lilly ad along with another from group.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/lilly-wants-some-fun/36135774[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/ashley-snowbunny/35342585[/URL]

There were others such providers named Angelina and Danielle but when I searched the forum none of them had reviews so I kinda stopped looking for the others since I thought maybe no one saw any of the providers from the group.[/QUOTE]Yeah man I'm realizing now it's only these groups & cdps on listcrawler since 2020 I was wondering looking at the ads and why these girls having so much rules well it is what it is at this point we just got to avoid the high price ones we are in sad times right now the hobby is not fun no more can't even get decent service anymore because every girl always just want a grab for your money and rush idk if there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

[QUOTE=FarRockQueens;6015325]Yeah man I'm realizing now it's only these groups & cdps on listcrawler since 2020 I was wondering looking at the ads and why these girls having so much rules well it is what it is at this point we just got to avoid the high price ones we are in sad times right now the hobby is not fun no more can't even get decent service anymore because every girl always just want a grab for your money and rush idk if there's a light at the end of the tunnel.[/QUOTE]Yea. Not that long ago pre-COVID the majority of providers in my screening either offered BBBJ, GFE, or MSOG for no extra charge. BBFS was a YMMV but generally from my experiences at most it took 3 encounters if they gave you BBBJ for you to have BBFS on menu if that was your thing.

Nowadays if any of those 4 are even offered they are all upcharged as the standard. With the opposite of it being included being the exception. I dont think it was even COVID that caused it. Craigslist and Backpage shutting down seemed to have been the catalyst. Since with craigslist you regularly had UTR browsing and making ads who didnt know what was normal or comparing rates. Nowadays it is like you said those groups, CDPs, as well as women that do this for a living and talk to others to compare notes so they are all on the same script. One such script is many providers offer 100/150/200 as their standard rates.

[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6015784]Yea. Not that long ago pre-COVID the majority of providers in my screening either offered BBBJ, GFE, or MSOG for no extra charge. BBFS was a YMMV but generally from my experiences at most it took 3 encounters if they gave you BBBJ for you to have BBFS on menu if that was your thing.i

Nowadays if any of those 4 are even offered they are all upcharged as the standard. With the opposite of it being included being the exception. I dont think it was even COVID that caused it. Craigslist and Backpage shutting down seemed to have been the catalyst. Since with craigslist you regularly had UTR browsing and making ads who didnt know what was normal or comparing rates. Nowadays it is like you said those groups, CDPs, as well as women that do this for a living and talk to others to compare notes so they are all on the same script. One such script is many providers offer 100/150/200 as their standard rates.[/QUOTE]It's almost impossible to find a independent girl that's not in that crew / group you was talking about Lilly which I've seen but left cause of high price but she's cute tho I've tried to talk the prices down with some providers and they refused I'm just tryna think how are they going to last in the business with these crazy outrageous prices I have a feeling they might close down listcrawler.

[QUOTE=FarRockQueens;6016507]It's almost impossible to find a independent girl that's not in that crew / group you was talking about Lilly which I've seen but left cause of high price but she's cute tho I've tried to talk the prices down with some providers and they refused I'm just tryna think how are they going to last in the business with these crazy outrageous prices I have a feeling they might close down listcrawler.[/QUOTE]Talking them down doesn't even seem to be as possible as it once was. If you do it upfront theres a good chance you get blocked and if you ask them in person they get offended. Really don't know what will come of the hobby moving forward.

[QUOTE=FarRockQueens;6016507]It's almost impossible to find a independent girl that's not in that crew / group you was talking about Lilly which I've seen but left cause of high price but she's cute tho I've tried to talk the prices down with some providers and they refused I'm just tryna think how are they going to last in the business with these crazy outrageous prices I have a feeling they might close down listcrawler.[/QUOTE]Lilly was actually independent in the Bronx with lower rates there. She was a 80/120/150 provider in Bronx. I don't remember the number she used there. But she told me there wasnt much traffic so she gave up on Bronx and moved to Brooklyn with that crew which I guess was to try to get a steady amount of clients. That Brooklyn number was likely given to her as you can see other providers used that number as well.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/peaches-wants-wet-fun/38557004[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-wet-fun/38455558[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-some-wet-fun/36190520[/URL]

The independent are out there it is just becoming more and more rare on STG/List crawler. If they feel they are upper quality they tend to go to Tryst or Private Delights. We don't talk about this on this forum but providers have their own forums and subreddits on Reddit and talk down on STG and listcrawler clients. As well as celebrate never having to post on those sites once they become eros verified.

[QUOTE=TrueSilentStar;6017266]Talking them down doesn't even seem to be as possible as it once was. If you do it upfront theres a good chance you get blocked and if you ask them in person they get offended. Really don't know what will come of the hobby moving forward.[/QUOTE]It depends from provider to provider. One issue I heard was lets say they are a 100/150/200 provider. And a part of one of those crews there could be a house fee/cut per client could range from $40-70. Or even worse they arent allowed to keep the donation. Since someone enters the room once you leave. They may not budge on the donation due to that. Also if they get a lot of traffic they can afford to turn you down and block you.

This is another thing we don't talk about the higher their rates the less clients they need to see to make rent/bills or survive. That is one reason some women just stop posting. They have enough regulars that what they do is send a mass text to you on a random day that they are available and might see you for less of a rate to stop them from making an ad. So if you not on that mass text list you missed a provider that you could talk down her rates. Just like I said with the independents. You can still negotiate rates it just is becoming harder to find those that do it on your first meeting. I mentioned this months ago but when there was that massive snow storm so many providers were way willing to negotiate rates that day. Since they didnt get much traffic that day. You should keep that in mind since winter is coming.

[URL]https://nypost.com/2022/07/14/nyc-sex-worker-lily-lady-looking-for-clients-to-invest-in-film-project/[/URL]

Anyone see her? If so how was she?

I didn't attempt to search for her ad but based off article you can eliminate stuff. Like she sees client for at least four figures so that automatically eliminated the Bronx lol. So she is either escorting in Brooklyn, Manhattan, or Queens. But I posted it in BK section since this section could use a light hearted post or a review. With sites it likely eliminates STG/Listcrawler. Im leaning toward her being a Tryst/Eros girl with a rates like that. If anyone saw her they could probably post her ad.

[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6017555]Lilly was actually independent in the Bronx with lower rates there. She was a 80/120/150 provider in Bronx. I don't remember the number she used there. But she told me there wasnt much traffic so she gave up on Bronx and moved to Brooklyn with that crew which I guess was to try to get a steady amount of clients. That Brooklyn number was likely given to her as you can see other providers used that number as well.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/peaches-wants-wet-fun/38557004[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-wet-fun/38455558[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-some-wet-fun/36190520[/URL]

The independent are out there it is just becoming more and more rare on STG/List crawler. If they feel they are upper quality they tend to go to Tryst or Private Delights. We don't talk about this on this forum but providers have their own forums and subreddits on Reddit and talk down on STG and listcrawler clients. As well as celebrate never having to post on those sites once they become eros verified.

It depends from provider to provider. One issue I heard was lets say they are a 100/150/200 provider. And a part of one of those crews there could be a house fee/cut per client could range from $40-70. Or even worse they arent allowed to keep the donation. Since someone enters the room once you leave. They may not budge on the donation due to that. Also if they get a lot of traffic they can afford to turn you down and block you.

This is another thing we don't talk about the higher their rates the less clients they need to see to make rent/bills or survive. That is one reason some women just stop posting. They have enough regulars that what they do is send a mass text to you on a random day that they are available and might see you for less of a rate to stop them from making an ad. So if you not on that mass text list you missed a provider that you could talk down her rates. Just like I said with the independents. You can still negotiate rates it just is becoming harder to find those that do it on your first meeting. I mentioned this months ago but when there was that massive snow storm so many providers were way willing to negotiate rates that day. Since they didnt get much traffic that day. You should keep that in mind since winter is coming.[/QUOTE]Bad weather conditions are good for mongers you can get low rates and have a great session I want to hook up with tryst chicks but they want a deposit and a resume like I'm applying for a job picture I'd references and info about where I work at Lmao chicks will get more clients if they stop the resume nonsense.

Funniest shit I've seen is a girl saying "my bbj is out of this world" then a few sentences later "BTW bbj isn't available" lmfao then why tf are you even advertising it. Mind blowing.

One thing I've noticed lately is providers give rates of 80/120/150 and then will get mad and stop responding when you pick 80. If you're not going to see anyone for that rate why even give it?

[QUOTE=AbuSaho;6017555]Lilly was actually independent in the Bronx with lower rates there. She was a 80/120/150 provider in Bronx. I don't remember the number she used there. But she told me there wasnt much traffic so she gave up on Bronx and moved to Brooklyn with that crew which I guess was to try to get a steady amount of clients. That Brooklyn number was likely given to her as you can see other providers used that number as well.

[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/peaches-wants-wet-fun/38557004[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-wet-fun/38455558[/URL]
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/bella-wants-some-wet-fun/36190520[/URL]

The independent are out there it is just becoming more and more rare on STG/List crawler. If they feel they are upper quality they tend to go to Tryst or Private Delights. We don't talk about this on this forum but providers have their own forums and subreddits on Reddit and talk down on STG and listcrawler clients. As well as celebrate never having to post on those sites once they become eros verified.

It depends from provider to provider. One issue I heard was lets say they are a 100/150/200 provider. And a part of one of those crews there could be a house fee/cut per client could range from $40-70. Or even worse they arent allowed to keep the donation. Since someone enters the room once you leave. They may not budge on the donation due to that. Also if they get a lot of traffic they can afford to turn you down and block you.

This is another thing we don't talk about the higher their rates the less clients they need to see to make rent/bills or survive. That is one reason some women just stop posting. They have enough regulars that what they do is send a mass text to you on a random day that they are available and might see you for less of a rate to stop them from making an ad. So if you not on that mass text list you missed a provider that you could talk down her rates. Just like I said with the independents. You can still negotiate rates it just is becoming harder to find those that do it on your first meeting. I mentioned this months ago but when there was that massive snow storm so many providers were way willing to negotiate rates that day. Since they didnt get much traffic that day. You should keep that in mind since winter is coming.[/QUOTE]