Classic lines in history....
[QUOTE=F Scott;1491975]I ask,"would you like to take the tiller?", to which she replies, in her posh British accent,"no, I'd like to fuck you."[/QUOTE]Brother Scott,
The above dialogue is like a classic line from a movie. It may rival Rhett Butler, in GWTW. I am certainly glad that I didn't have a mouthful of liquid when I read this one because I busted out with an uncontrollable horse laugh which continued on a bit. Definitely some great prose there my friend and sooooo glad that the Brit blew your boating shoes clean off. Yip-fuckin-ee; sounds like one that you will take to the old folks home in your grey matter, and even old-timers won't erase that memory! Sweet. Vroom
What to do. Besides walk away. Open to suggestions
This is most likely a case of GPS.
An email on sa led me to give her my text number, texting back and forth and she started bringing up allowance, even before we met.
I threw out a umber and she agreed to the number, even though no visitation frequency has been set. Then the M&G was being discussed and since I her to prove I am real, she expects $300 for a glass of wine when we meet. I did not comment on that text, but my silence is most likely to her."Ok Ill give you $300 for a glass of wine and a M&G" my instincts. Jusr walk away and say buh bye.
Any flanking maneuvers?
The essence of the approach
[QUOTE=Varoom;1494060]Not much about flanking, way more about straight talk[/QUOTE]I was having this discussion with a new pot baby the other day: how, in a strange way, the Sugar Bowl offers both parties the opportunity to be upfront and straightforward in what we expect in a way that real life dating does not. Before I was married, I would use whatever ruse, game, angle or approach I could think of to get access to the pussy, but now, in the SB world, I curiously find that staight talk is the way to go. These babies can smell a bs'er a mile away, and most will call you on it in no uncertain language.
I wonder why I feel so much more free to be honest in the Bowl, and would love to hear more opinions from the brothers, and Mandy, of course.
So, here is the topic for debate: "Why, in an arena that prizes discretion, and for most, married or not, a certain level of secrecy, does it seem to be so easy to be honest?" The floor is open for input.
Scott
Honesty in the Sugar Bowl
Scott as always you pose an interesting question – why do you feel free to be honest in the sugar bowl?
But, I have to question if you're really all that honest? I think we find our longer-term favorites and we get comfortable and are honest with that person. But, that's only part of the sugar journey.
I mean – how many of your babies know your real name, what you do, or your company name?
What they do know is what you like in bed and that you play with multiple people. Once you form a connection with them, it's easy to be honest with everything else because they already know 'the worst of you. '
But, at the same time once that connection is formed I think we tend to lie a little bit to protect that person just like most of us do with our spouses. Recently, 'Him' revealed that he's been dating someone locally. It's been going on for several months and in an effort to 'not hurt me' he lied to me. I can't fault him – The Doctor has no idea I have another SD.
So, while I agree there is a certain level of honesty in the sugar world. I think we cloud things over here just as much as in our normal worlds.
Mandy
Gps & $300 for m&g
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1494196]Not all aspects of EuroInCincy's situation are clear to me. I assume EuroInCincy and the girl have agreed to $300 behind closed doors; her view is they will meet for a M&G at which M&G she expects $300 and this occasion will not be followed by going behind closed doors. I would tell her the $300 is associated with behind closed doors time; a M&G for coffee is not behind closed doors time and is not compensable unless the two of you decide to adjourn to behind closed doors.
I agree with Scott. Being straight up about everying is the only way.
I don't agree with gift cards or anything not associated with going behind closed doors. If we start something like that we invite more of the same, ending with regrets.[/QUOTE]Well today I was supposed to have the m&g, and I did made it clear I expected more than just a glass of wine for the $300. The reply was."see it as a down payment for the monthly allowance" and it was insulting to her that I even suggested that."as you know time is$ in business". So I replied "buh bye"
I went to the 18 yr old "de-virgined" play mate who can't get enough now.
Flakes are going to be the death of us
Good Lord! The mind of a POT boggles the logical mind some times don't they? Has she had an arrangement before? If this was her first, perhaps the reality of it set in by the time she got home and cold feet ensued?
Most likely it is cold feet and perhaps an email ensuring her that you are only looking to have a mutual good time (mutual is the key word) and that since you like her so much you are willing to go slow (within reason of course, but don't tell her that) and that you will do everything you can to make her comfortable.
But hell, I don't need to be giving you advice. Just don't let it get you down, they flake out on the best of us!
BTW, this is being posted in the FC. Legally Blonde just went home. Report to follow!
Stay positive.
Chi.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1497358]My brothers,
From this day forward, I am imposing an iron-clad 48 hour gag order on myself after meeting with any new, untested baby before posting anything. After our delightful (I thought) lunch yesterday, which ended in some very pleasant, mutual (I thought) kissing, my SNB has gone into hiding. I sent her a charming (I thought) text last night, and another equally charming one this morning via email, and nothing, nada, goose egg, bagel and so on. I just can't be so wrong about these little fish, can I?
We had already talked about the "arrangement" and she knew there would be sex involved, and was down with that, so she said, and I know I'm not a bad kisser, so WTF?
I hope it's nothing bad with her daughter.
Mystified,
Scott[/QUOTE]
Their mindset is they want money
[QUOTE=Magic Rat;1497976]Yet another new experience from a Pot. I had decided I didn't want to pursue this one, not even for a M&G, so she tells me she thinks I owe her something for her time, which consisted of several emails and texts. I am continually amazed at the mindset of some of these women![/QUOTE]It's all business with these chicks and they are willing to exchange pussy for money. That's it. Their aim is to give as little out as possible while getting the maximum in return. If that means making some poor shlub feel like she has feelings for him so he'll come up off of more cash, then that's what she's going to do.
They're working girls, dude. It's what they do.
Date #2 with Legally Blonde
Second date has been completed with my voluptuous blonde paralegal baby. I must say I really really am enjoying this one. She has been completely 'on the ball' as far as reliability, safety, and communication. One truly could not ask for an easier candiate to hook up with. She absolutely knows the game, and is about as accommodating as they come. It had been exactly 2 weeks since our first date, and she has corresponded with me on about 10 out of the 14 days.
In the days leading up to our last meeting, she virtually begged me via texts and emails for me to tell her all my deepest darkest fantasies so she can be the one to fullfil anything I could possibly desire. We built up quite a list (column header 'Semen Extraction Procedures for July 18, 2012' sorted by priority of course) and I must confess we made a valiant attempt to check as many off as possible last night.
I arranged another hotel room downtown near where we both work and left the office about 4:00pm to check in and get everything situated. Since it was 148f in the city yesterday, I took the opportunity to grab a quick shower as well, and get a few beverages from a takeout store.
She left the office at 5:00 and knocked on the door at about 5:15. She arrived in the room looking fabulous and we shared a quick hug and I let her in. I made her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes. We did not have much to say in person honestly since we had talked so much during the week. I tried relaying some humorous story to her about one of my recent travels when she interrupted me in mid sentence and said "I don't mean to change the subject, but why are your pants still on?". She then sat down in a chair that I had strategically placed in the room (and just happend to be standing in front of at the time) , unzipped me and proceeded to check off box #1 of the 'Semen extraction procedure List' appropriately labeled "Big sloppy wet blowjob!".
I am not going to go into all the gory details, but we spent about 3 hours of bliss with each other last night. I will however give a hint at list item #3. It was entitled 'Slip and Slide' and involved stripping the hotel bed, laying down all the bath towels, a bottle of massage oil, and Mr Happy finding a glorious place to hide in between those 38DDD's.
When our time was up, we both needed a shower, and I was getting pretty late for my checkin with the warden. The room was a bit of a disaster, so I just left a nice tip for the cleaning people. There was a very nice looking lounge in the lobby of this particular establishment, and I did feel the need to sit at the bar and have a cold beer by myself and partially reflect on the evenings activities before finally heading home.
All in all, this is really turning out to be something fun. She is very much having a good time as well, and I noticed today that she has deleted her SA account. She is still not my ideal body type if I were to have to pick the perfect woman, but she is so easy to work with, and so unbelievably willing and accommodating, that I am going to have to let this go for a while and see where it takes us.
Till then, I have a M&G date tomorrow after work with yet another voluptuous blonde (I am becoming a bit transparent it seems) who has recently moved to the city to go back to school after doing a stint in Las Vegas as a poker dealer. This one has been completely adorable to me in emails, sending silly electronic greeting cards, etc. The photos I've seen of her so far have been nice, but have not yet seen a full body shot. This of course is why we are doing a M&G, and I'll just hope for the best.
On the following Tuesday, I have one more potential cocktail meeting planned with a STUNNING 22 year old who seems to know what she's doing. She is a college senior finishing up her last semester at a school about 2 hours away, and is getting ready to move back home. My worry here is that babies of this caliber have traditionally fallen out of what my normal comfortable budget usually is, but I just may have to splurge for a while if this goes well.
Glad to see more traffic on this thread, and keep it up brothers!
Hits and misses (more misses)
Thank you for the welcome gentlemen and Mandy ("and lady" is too awkward). I thought I'd provide an update on the status of my practice.
Patient 4 (37 year old Cauc, moved back from Canada, lives 2 hours away) was all set to come for our M&G last Wednesday (planned for 6:00) , but as the day wore on I kept getting texts saying work had taken unexpected turns and she would be a little later. I tell her if she comes all the way to me I could meet as late as 7:30. Finally, around 6, she texts to say she can meet around 8, if I'm still free, halfway between her town and mine. I tell her that won't work, and halfheartedly express hope it will work out some other time. She apologizes profusely. We do the same dance. We're now tentatively set to meet next Friday afternoon, but I'm going in knowing that I have Patient 2 (36 year old Cauc, probably semi-pro or former pro trying to exit) whom I can call on short notice if Pt 4 falls through again.
Patient 1 (23 year old AA) texts me first thing Monday morning, sending me a picture of a dildo between her tits with the caption that she'd rather it be me. I agree that I'd be a much better choice, and we make plans to meet Thursday evening to correct the situation. Lots of hot and heavy texting and I'm'ing (with one smoking Skype session) in the intervening days, and I'm getting all hot and bothered imagining our electronic fantasies coming to life. She seems a lot dirtier than even our first trip to the FC gave a hint at. It is not to be, however. She texts me Thursday at noon to say she has to pick her cousin up from the airport that night. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm being jerked around, or if she's just another flaky early-20-something. The text of her fingers buried in her pussy that she sends me that night partly makes up for it.
Fortunately, all was not lost for Thursday night! About 3 hours after Pt 1 cancels her appointment, Patient 10 makes initial contact through SA. She is a 22 year old recent college graduate who "likes my profile," and wants to know if I would "like to get to know [her] so we can help each other out." I respond that I had plans fall through that evening, and we could get to know each other over dinner in a few hours if she's so inclined. Probably not the best move ever, but I'm still imagining what I must have missed with Pt 1, so I have a moment of weakness. Pt 10 is up for meeting that night, so I give her a time and a restaurant. She asks for pics, but I tell her to send me one through my email and I'll find her. She agrees.
Dinner goes well (though I learn that I should find out if my patient is a Vegan before I set up a date at a steakhouse) but ends quickly (her salad didn't take long to eat, and I don't order large meals because I'll still have to eat with the Head Nurse when I get home). I lament the fact that time has passed so quickly, and suggest we could continue our conversation somewhere more private. She is agreeable, but my happiness is tempered by the suspicion that I could have saved the money that I just spent on the meal and taken her straight to the FC. My mood picks up again when I remind myself that we're going to the FC.
We get to the closest hotel (another lesson learned, always have a reservation ready) and all that is available is 2 double bed room. It doesn't matter. We get up to the room and I go to relieve myself. When I get out she is stark naked (save for a necklace she claims not to have taken off since she "became a woman. Whether that was her first cycle or her first sexual encounter is never clarified, though I suspect they may not have been too far apart). She tells me to come over to her, and she gets on her knees, releases my stethoscope, and gives a sloppy, enthusiastic BJ that ends with her swallowing everything except for one little dribble down her chin that I see when she looks up at me and smiles. I point out the error, and she corrects it. We play with each others' bodies for a while as we have some more "get to know you" time, and I discover that she is almost flawless (other than ink and piercings, which aren't really my thing but may be growing on me after this). She is also a foot-and-a-half shorter than me and almost a third of my weight, with natural C's (I inspected them thoroughly). We play a few rounds of "Olympics" where she stars as the gymnast and I am the uneven bars.
When it's time to say our goodbyes, I slip the modest gift (lower than my usual) into her purse. We kiss goodbye at her car, and before I get back to mine I get a "thank you thank you thank you!" text. I see her as a reliable standby, since her job ends at the same time I close my (other) practice each day and she says she can be ready to go "whenever" as long as she has time to go by her house and change into "funner" clothes. I'll never respect her, but we can certainly have some fun.
After my serendipitous night with Pt 10, I go into my Friday afternoon M&G with Patient 8 (early 40's newly licensed massage therapist) with high hopes. She's also a 2 hour drive away, so we meet in the middle. I meet, and she's almost an hour late. We have our meal and chat for the next 3 hours, but she is doing about 90% of the talking. Fortunately, I don't mind as I'm looking at her discrete but revealing dress, and her sexy green eyes framed by her red hair. I nod and say uh-huh alot. In the end, however, her life has too much drama, she lives too far away, and wants too much sugar. The hour has gotten way to late to proceed to the FC without raising suspicion in the Head Nurse, so I don't even suggest it. I give her $ for gas (probably 3x what it cost her to get there) , thinking that as our visit grows more distant and she is unable to find someone to meet her expectations for sugar, she'll remember my generosity. If she'll make the whole drive, and we spend our time doing things other than talking, there are possibilities. The likelihood of that is about a 3 out of 10, however.
Today was a breakfast M&G with Patient 9 (27 year old early career blueblood whose current income and lifestyle she'd used to don't match) , who lives in the same general area as Patient 8, so we met in the same general area. I know there will be no FC, as she has already said she has to meet her parents, driving in from 300 miles away, in 3 hours back at her home. The chemistry doesn't seem there, initially, but as our conversation continues the blueblood starts to thaw and we start to talk more comfortably. After a couple hours she says she has to go, and I pay the bill ($40 for a $17 tab, but we had camped out and occupied the table through at least 3 rotations of diners, so I felt badly for the waitress). I escort her to her car and we make tentative plans to meet again in a couple weeks. I'm about to kiss her goodbye when the waitress bursts through the back door and calls out,"did you mean to leave two 20's?" I assure her I did, because she had provided good service and was very nice even though we had been KOA at her table. She departs the scene, and the goodbye kiss I receive is much longer and more passionate than the one I had been anticipating 30 seconds before (wasn't even sure it would be lip-to-lip, in fact). Thank god for that appreciative and conscientious waitress! I'm fairly confident there will be a trip to the FC when I see her 2 weeks hence, especially after I gave her. 5 for gas. I was planning to give it to her anyhow, but if she wants to assume the hot kiss goodbye played a roll in my generosity who am I to stop her?
I make the drive back home, where I have a lunch M&G with Patient 7 (23 year old student and single mother, cancelled on me earlier in the week). She is even hotter in person than she is in her pictures, and has the red hair and green eyes I am so fond of. Unfortunately, I discover during lunch that she is a complete dead fish personality wise, and is almost immediately all business. She's stunningly beautiful, her expectations are just above my limits but she is able to host, and she's willing to go to the FC "eventually." I tell her we should both think it over, but I've already done my thinking. There's just no chemistry, and I don't see any developing. If she inquires further, I'll tell her that. If I don't hear from her again. That's OK.
Even though the week was very hit and miss, I discovered Pt 10, who is sexy and great in bed, with fairly low expectations; am still in contact with Pt 1, with hot and heavy sexting giving hints of good things to come; have Pt 2 as a reliable backup (texted her to say "this week's no good," got a reply "hopefully next week, then?") ; laid some groundwork with patients 8 and 9, with fairly good prospects for Pt 9; examined but will likely to discharge Pt 7 from my practice; and still have tentative plans for a M&G with Pt 4, though I'll believe it when I see her at the restaurant. I'm developing a few more prospects in the wings, but I'll spare you the details. I've gone on long enough as it is.
Oh, lest I forget, I learned a couple good lessons. First, before making dinner reservations make sure you know what the patient likes to eat. Second, always have a room reserved close by, lest you wind up in a FC with two double beds!
Always on call,
Dr. Feelgood.
PS: I'm taking the approach that sprinkling a little sugar at the M&G can reap larger rewards in the future. I welcome any thoughts or feedback the rest of you can offer. Don't worry if you disagree with my approach. I appreciate constructive criticism and you can't offend me. Unless you call my dog ugly, that is.