[QUOTE=Tawayem;6858613]Guessing someone fucked it up and Facino decided no more UTRs for anyone.[/QUOTE]How can anyone describe this as a "UTR" when this dude was actively pimping back to back slots all day every day? This was the most "on radar" situation I could imagine.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6859779]How can anyone describe this as a "UTR" when this dude was actively pimping back to back slots all day every day? This was the most "on radar" situation I could imagine.[/QUOTE]I believe the thought process is the only letting people know availability was here.
No ads placed on the other public sites and no formal web sites for the girls.
[QUOTE=Peh8554;6859825]I believe the thought process is the only letting people know availability was here.
No ads placed on the other public sites and no formal web sites for the girls.[/QUOTE]Pretty much a technicality though right?
Like pretty clear from the posts that if you partook in this you were just one in a gigantic line of dudes from here.
I bet there are plenty of chicks placing ads on regular sites getting nowhere near the traffic this pimp was generating.
Wise to shut it down.
[QUOTE=Emeralddragon6;6858625]Naw this seems more scorched earth so thinking there was trouble with our favorite uncle.[/QUOTE]Curious if any of you texted him in the past 24.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6859884]Pretty much a technicality though right?
Like pretty clear from the posts that if you partook in this you were just one in a gigantic line of dudes from here.
I bet there are plenty of chicks placing ads on regular sites getting nowhere near the traffic this pimp was generating.[/QUOTE]Y'know I've seriously been wondering that myself. I mean, we've got to be a tiny subset of the intended audience for these, right? What percentage just see the ad and go, without being interested in forums and reviews? I can think of no way to know from our end.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6859884]
I bet there are plenty of chicks placing ads on regular sites getting nowhere near the traffic this pimp was generating.[/QUOTE]If so that might have more to do with the fact that these girls were actually attractive, which is sadly exceptionally rare among providers here. Not old, toothless, obvious meth heads, obese etc.
And I would guess that the number of people that post or even just read on here is a smaller group than the group of men that use the various escort and massage ad websites.
I agree that UTR maybe isn't the best phrasing for it, but generally close enough for all intents and purposes.
What was hilarious was his rant that he was going to go away and to "catch them while they still here" or "only time available for the week" and then 2 days later would be posting again. I have seen Leslie and posted a review and was a very meh experience so I gave up on it at that point. But the way he was fooling people with all this get it while you can shenanigans were hilarious to read.
Honestly I'm glad I never interacted with that guy. Never seen or contacted him but may have found him in the records same day same location as his female companion. So who knows. Similar charges. Maybe someone who met the female companions may know if that's him. Since he supposedly was in the motel suite as other members have said.
[QUOTE=FineTaste;6860508]What was hilarious was his rant that he was going to go away and to "catch them while they still here" or "only time available for the week" and then 2 days later would be posting again. I have seen Leslie and posted a review and was a very meh experience so I gave up on it at that point. But the way he was fooling people with all this get it while you can shenanigans were hilarious to read.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tabor;6860372]Wise to shut it down.[/QUOTE]IMO, he was begging for trouble. The legal standard is incredibly low for Abetting Prostitution. Literally helping a girl craft a draft for an ad is enough to qualify. Pimping has HUUUGE penalties in NC. And this is the guy all the vice detectives really want to get. The current playbook is to bust the provider, who faces a class 1 misdemeanor with a penalty of up to 45 days. They scare her with that 45 days in jail threat to have her flip on her 'pimp'. Literally they don't care how much control or involvement he has with her. He faces a MINIMUM OF 92 MONTHS and a maximum of 182 MONTHS when convicted. They would love to get Facino, and every time he posted I was thinking "Dude, I'm sure LEO monitors this forum and all they have to do is reach out to you via DM, and get a warrant to find out where your textapp number you're providing leads them" They busted her with drugs, so I'd be shocked if she didn't flip to get out of it.
Reminder: Please never ever be this guy. I was scrolling and found an ad with a text exchange between a monger and provider. I haven't felt secondhand embarrassment like this in a while. I understand we have all had a provider or two that we really liked their personality and was a hot piece of ass. But please don't start being needy and texting them like they are your girlfriend. They never like it and makes them feel weird 99% of the time. I know she smiled at you, said you had the best D she's ever had, and you're definitely the first person she has let hit it raw. However, please, just please don't be this guy. Thanks.
[QUOTE=ScottiePimp;6917018]Reminder: Please never ever be this guy. I was scrolling and found an ad with a text exchange between a monger and provider. I haven't felt secondhand embarrassment like this in a while. I understand we have all had a provider or two that we really liked their personality and was a hot piece of ass. But please don't start being needy and texting them like they are your girlfriend. They never like it and makes them feel weird 99% of the time. I know she smiled at you, said you had the best D she's ever had, and you're definitely the first person she has let hit it raw. However, please, just please don't be this guy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The GFE usually begins and ends at the door. .
[QUOTE=ScottiePimp;6917018]Reminder: Please never ever be this guy. I was scrolling and found an ad with a text exchange between a monger and provider. I haven't felt secondhand embarrassment like this in a while. I understand we have all had a provider or two that we really liked their personality and was a hot piece of ass. But please don't start being needy and texting them like they are your girlfriend. They never like it and makes them feel weird 99% of the time. I know she smiled at you, said you had the best D she's ever had, and you're definitely the first person she has let hit it raw. However, please, just please don't be this guy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If the date was nice, I will only say, "Thanks again" with a smile and that's it.
Wow! That is a classic example of someone who is p**sy whipped, don't be a simp.
[QUOTE=ScottiePimp;6917018]Reminder: Please never ever be this guy. I was scrolling and found an ad with a text exchange between a monger and provider. I haven't felt secondhand embarrassment like this in a while. I understand we have all had a provider or two that we really liked their personality and was a hot piece of ass. But please don't start being needy and texting them like they are your girlfriend. They never like it and makes them feel weird 99% of the time. I know she smiled at you, said you had the best D she's ever had, and you're definitely the first person she has let hit it raw. However, please, just please don't be this guy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I GUARANTEE the price went up for him next time.
[QUOTE=ScottiePimp;6917018]Reminder: Please never ever be this guy. I was scrolling and found an ad with a text exchange between a monger and provider. I haven't felt secondhand embarrassment like this in a while. I understand we have all had a provider or two that we really liked their personality and was a hot piece of ass. But please don't start being needy and texting them like they are your girlfriend. They never like it and makes them feel weird 99% of the time. I know she smiled at you, said you had the best D she's ever had, and you're definitely the first person she has let hit it raw. However, please, just please don't be this guy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Those are the guys who show up in Pattaya and within a week are supporting an entire village outside Buriram. Along with two other suckers. From their home countries. I loove yooo hansum man
[QUOTE=FrankDallas;6918338]Those are the guys who show up in Pattaya and within a week are supporting an entire village outside Buriram. Along with two other suckers. From their home countries. I loove yooo hansum man[/QUOTE]"No, I not make boom boom with other farang. Just you baaaaby".
[QUOTE=MmceStep;6918675]"No, I not make boom boom with other farang. Just you baaaaby".[/QUOTE]Yep. Then add. "Can not see you, buffalo sick, please help, I looooooooove you".
Two days later she's back at Lolitas BJ Bar in Bangkok.
Can someone please give me the website to look up arrests in the entire state of NC. I know dws live scan but that is just for wake co. I'm looking for the whole state. Thanks in advance guys.
[QUOTE=DisturbedOne;6937433]Can someone please give me the website to look up arrests in the entire state of NC. I know dws live scan but that is just for wake co. I'm looking for the whole state. Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]Try this site: [URL]https://northcarolina.arrests.org[/URL].
[QUOTE=MDBellamy;6937463]Try this site: [URL]https://northcarolina.arrests.org[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank you that was what I was looking for.
Cooper signed HB 971 which changes the penalty for soliciting a prostitute from a misdemeanor to a felony starting in Dec 2024. I switched from pros, to a utr, and then to AMPs some years ago to avoid most of the possible problems but this worries me. Soliciting is defined as offering money or compensation for sexual acts- so it could include a handy at the local massage parlor if you're not careful. Now the police will be able to charge you with a felony to scare you into talking about your last visit. The AMP scene is pretty bad now but I am afraid it will disappear completely when this goes into effect in December.
According to google;.
1st offense Class I = 4-10 months imprisonment, max 2 years.
2nd or more offense Class H= 5-20 months, max 3 years.
If she's a minor Class G = 10-24 months, max 4 years.
These penalties do not apply to the prostitute, just the person soliciting.
Also in the bill-are human trafficking sections and new requirements for motel / hotel housekeepers and "vacation rental" property managers to be trained in how to recognize trafficking signs and the new mandatory reporting to law enforcement.
There is an article about it on [URL]Wral.com[/URL].
[QUOTE=ReflexPoint;6953491]Stay away from this one! She is a scammer.
There are several reviews about her about the knock on the door boyfriend scam. In my case, she grabbed the donation and said she had to pay for her room and left. You can guess what happened next. She never came back. This was about 3 weeks ago, and like you said she stays off Hillsborough Road. When I was leaving, I saw her in a car with another dude (I think is her husband / boyfriend per the previous reviews).[/QUOTE]Imagine if she returned to the room to find:
(Not suggesting that you do anything listed here. Also, all of us have our burner phone and license plate cover on when are visiting our friends at hotels, right? Plus always keep your head down so cameras in hallways don't catch your face.).
In order of interestingly.
The TV screen busted out.
All the electronics, phone chargers, hair styling tools, clocks, radios, anything that has an electrical cord now has no plug attached to it.
And it is all in the tub under 6 inches of water.
Along with any other personal belongings she left.
All makeup, beauty and skin products, shampoo and any food and drink are in the toilet along with someone's excrement.
Any left footed shoes somehow wind up in the dumpster.
Plug the drains on the sink and tub then tun the water on full. Lock the bathroom doors from outside and or beat the handle / knob off door.
The coil ruptured on the fridge so the refrigerant escapes.
And last but not least. Any and all of the items above, plus the bed sheets, blankets, pillows, towels, TV set, in the bathtub, Soaked down with the shower head and then lit on fire with any accelerant (perfume, hairspray, alcohol, whatever) , should smolder for quite a while before becoming a real fire, with the bathroom door tightly shut as to prevent the smoke detector from going off for a while. Bonus points if you can lock door from outside and then bash the door handle / knob off the door preventing them from getting in.
Yeah, I know, a bit excessive, but It's the only language these people understand. Most of these will involve the hotel / motel management and the thieves will be on the hook for any expenses. And heaven forbid the Fire Department is called. And if you think that they will implicate you, well remember the burner phone and plate cover?? Plus, what are they going to say to authorities?? A john that came here to have sex with me for money, that I subsequently robbed and left unattended in my room did this? How funny!
[QUOTE=Dasalt;6955049]Imagine if she returned to the room to find:
Sounds fun - buuuuuuuut[/QUOTE]They will absolutely tell the police they are tricking and that you did it. And burner or no, the police will find you easily. Worst case scenario. They catch a misdemeanor and you catch a felony. Best case scenario. They are not charged, and you catch a felony.
Please don't do this.
[QUOTE=Dasalt;6955049]Imagine if she returned to the room to find:
(Not suggesting that you do anything listed here. Also, all of us have our burner phone and license plate cover on when are visiting our friends at hotels, right? Plus always keep your head down so cameras in hallways don't catch your face.).
In order of interestingly.
The TV screen busted out.
All the electronics, phone chargers, hair styling tools, clocks, radios, anything that has an electrical cord now has no plug attached to it.
And it is all in the tub under 6 inches of water.
Along with any other personal belongings she left.
All makeup, beauty and skin products, shampoo and any food and drink are in the toilet along with someone's excrement.
Any left footed shoes somehow wind up in the dumpster.
Plug the drains on the sink and tub then tun the water on full. Lock the bathroom doors from outside and or beat the handle / knob off door..[/QUOTE]Apparently you understand the language as well because you just thought it up. As for them reporting you, they will. I am sure that they would rather take the prostitution charge vs. Felony destruction of property and possibly homicide. There are videos of people calling the police because someone stole their drugs so what do you think would happen.
Here's an idea, start believing what's posted here and stop chasing providers that make you jump through hoops. Stop chasing providers that don't show their face. Stop chasing providers that either list every service or lust none at all.
Stay safe.
BLK.
[QUOTE=Dasalt;6955049]Imagine if she returned to the room to find:
(Not suggesting that you do anything listed here. Also, all of us have our burner phone and license plate cover on when are visiting our friends at hotels, right? Plus always keep your head down so cameras in hallways don't catch your face.).
In order of interestingly..................[/QUOTE]
As funny as it would be to leave an upper decker. The best way to do it is hit them where it hurts most. Politely leave no trace that you were there and post a review so others know to avoid them. The last thing we need is increased police attention because hotels are getting wrecked over this shit.
Soliciting a prostitute will be a felony.
[URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article289914144.html[/URL]
Supposedly to reduce demand to there's less human trafficking.
Seen this ad and I have the contact number. Let me know if anyone want to try.
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Finally found some open time and have messaged / left vms for 5 different providers. Only one responded with a big increase in rate, not worth it. The others no response. I don't pester but I do follow up, with a decent amount of time in between messages. I guess flaky? Anyway missed my opportunity for today which sucks.
/ RANT.
[QUOTE=GerryManderer;7072746]Finally found some open time and have messaged / left vms for 5 different providers. Only one responded with a big increase in rate, not worth it. The others no response. I don't pester but I do follow up, with a decent amount of time in between messages. I guess flaky? Anyway missed my opportunity for today which sucks.
/ RANT.[/QUOTE]Big same today. I seriously reached out to about a dozen different providers and maybe heard back from 2?
I just assumed Sunday is their respective day off, LOL.
[QUOTE=ProfessorVan;7074520]Before she began posting on escort sites she was a regular on Seeking Arrangement. I never messaged her because there were plenty of much more attractive options at the time, and with reasonable allowance expectations.
Look at this photo. 500 Benjamin's. A snapshot of the drastic decline in the escort scene over the last 5-6 years.
[URL]https://media-v2.tryst.a4cdn.org/profiles/9b2d33d1-31be-4143-9b61-350c3bcb34ef/photos/8516fa50-3398-4526-b30e-03fe5c4d8d69/large.jpeg[/URL][/QUOTE]While I do agree that seeing her isn't worth 500, I wouldn't say that there's been a drastic decline. Just browsing through Tryst, there are women who are charging 500 who are much better looking. From a cursory glance I can see 2 providers, Michelle Carniel: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/michellecarniel[/URL], and Sophia Imola: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sophia-imola[/URL] who are charging 500 and their pictures look much nicer. Hell BKS providers are still in the 300-400 range.
And Allie was charging 450 until very recently, so the fact that she was getting enough business to feel comfortable and increase her rate to 500 shows that either there are enough people seeing her that the lack of business from this forum (if indeed no one from here is seeing her) doesn't affect her, or people who have seen her think the services she provides is worth it. IMO this is a very subjective business and it's hard to quantify if someone's rates are universally worth it or not. What I do is set my budget and try to find good providers in my budget and not worry about other providers.
I've never seen her, and don't plan to, but just trying to provide an alternate perspective worth less than two cents.
[QUOTE=ScotRapp;7095328]My question then becomes does this law apply to sites like SA or CC? What about girls trying to be picked up via IG or SC? The ramifications of this seem far reaching.[/QUOTE]A possible glimmer of favorable news on the federal side at least: probably the most famous SA user ever was just nominated to be the next attorney general.
These new NC laws are puritanical christian-conservative garbage though, and I don't see them being changed anytime soon. Hard to imagine a legislator willing to take the heat and sponsor a bill to undo it, regardless if they disagree with it in principle.
[QUOTE=ElectricHug;7098489]A possible glimmer of favorable news on the federal side at least: probably the most famous SA user ever was just nominated to be the next attorney general.
These new NC laws are puritanical christian-conservative garbage though, and I don't see them being changed anytime soon. Hard to imagine a legislator willing to take the heat and sponsor a bill to undo it, regardless if they disagree with it in principle.[/QUOTE]Perhaps, although the Right is being pushed to do this by the right-wing 'Christian' PACs. Don't forget it was Trump's Justice Dept that went after BackPage. Eight years of the previous administration didn't touch it and 4 years of the one after didn't go after any of the ones we currently use. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they renew that fight.
[QUOTE=MmceStep;7098496]Perhaps, although the Right is being pushed to do this by the right-wing 'Christian' PACs. Don't forget it was Trump's Justice Dept that went after BackPage. Eight years of the previous administration didn't touch it and 4 years of the one after didn't go after any of the ones we currently use. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they renew that fight.[/QUOTE]I'm not getting into left vs right stuff, but the first term AG, Sessions, is a christian conservative prosecutor from Alabama, world's apart from Florida's Gaetz.
[QUOTE=ElectricHug;7098736]I'm not getting into left vs right stuff, but the first term AG, Sessions, is a christian conservative prosecutor from Alabama, world's apart from Florida's Gaetz.[/QUOTE]Haha, yeah, you would think Gaetz would be the most pro-mongering AG in history.
[QUOTE=ElectricHug;7098736]I'm not getting into left vs right stuff, but the first term AG, Sessions, is a christian conservative prosecutor from Alabama, world's apart from Florida's Gaetz.[/QUOTE]You certainly have a point regarding the starting point of those two men. I recognize that this is nuance that the lay person might not realize is a thing, but once you've been involved for some time with political lobbying, you recognize what compliance looks like. When you appoint a law enforcement insider to AG you're saying 'we're about process and following the law'. When you appoint a politician to AG, you're saying to your donors that they can shape the enforcement of laws. Gaetz's proclivities aside, he's a well known ***** on the Hill. That guy hasn't paid for a meal in years. Look up who Gaetz's largest donors have been, and you'll see what he's going to be doing as AG.
[QUOTE=MmceStep;7098496]Perhaps, although the Right is being pushed to do this by the right-wing 'Christian' PACs. Don't forget it was Trump's Justice Dept that went after BackPage. Eight years of the previous administration didn't touch it and 4 years of the one after didn't go after any of the ones we currently use. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they renew that fight.[/QUOTE]Trump doesn't need the Christians anymore. And honestly they don't seem to care about his morals as long as he bans abortion. However you look at it, he has no incentive to pander to their interests anymore, but well.
[blue]I moved all this to the fight thread. Don't talk about politics on review threads.
To the Trump guys, I do the same shit for the lefties, pussy is pink, it's not red or blue, keep that shit off of review threads.
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[QUOTE=GerryManderer;6961021]Soliciting a prostitute will be a felony.
[URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article289914144.html[/URL]
Supposedly to reduce demand to there's less human trafficking.[/QUOTE]It goes into effect on Dec 01, not Dec. 31.
So what's the plan? Outcall only? Dinner / lunch date first?
[QUOTE=ThickCock99;7109776]It goes into effect on Dec 01, not Dec. 31.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sobe69;7111159]So what's the plan? Outcall only? Dinner / lunch date first?[/QUOTE]I'm thinking the hill. That or just go for a long drive where it's safer to play.