The Sugar World

I exchanged messages with this one but she insists on a deposit upfront to deter "rapists and sex traffickers". Not sure why she thinks someone hellbent on raping her or trafficking her would shy from a deposit, but I told her a deposit was no go.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f0537ce2-e58b-4053-a393-eebeb7c4582f[/URL]

This one wants 200 for non intimate meets and 400 for intimacy. I have not pulled trigger yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2de2321a-4d63-4710-833a-7bd851c56766[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimRob;5794388]I exchanged messages with this one but she insists on a deposit upfront to deter "rapists and sex traffickers". Not sure why she thinks someone hellbent on raping her or trafficking her would shy from a deposit, but I told her a deposit was no go.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f0537ce2-e58b-4053-a393-eebeb7c4582f[/URL]

This one wants 200 for non intimate meets and 400 for intimacy. I have not pulled trigger yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/2de2321a-4d63-4710-833a-7bd851c56766[/URL][/QUOTE]Second link is a convo, not a profile.

Got a LV trip coming up and doing my preliminary scouting before I fly out. I'm seeing a few new profiles that are stating that they just want platonic mentoring, online exchanges, or just texting. While I personally find that laughable, it doesn't mean that others aren't into it. Much like I've never met an SB who was getting 5 k-10 k a month, despite SB influencers claiming it happens often, I've also never heard of an SB having a 100% platonic arrangement.

Does this actually happen? Are people paying some of these women just to have meals with them and talk?

(I once had an SB tell me that a very old man, like in his 90's, paid her 1 k just for dinner. I didn't believe her. I especially didn't believe her when I offered her 3 $ for an intimate date and she agreed to it. So I told her, 'I don't want to disappoint you' and I blocked her profile. I don't blame anyone for playing the game, but if you're telling me flagrant falsehoods, I'm walking.).

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5794479]Got a LV trip coming up and doing my preliminary scouting before I fly out. I'm seeing a few new profiles that are stating that they just want platonic mentoring, online exchanges, or just texting. While I personally find that laughable, it doesn't mean that others aren't into it. Much like I've never met an SB who was getting 5 k-10 k a month, despite SB influencers claiming it happens often, I've also never heard of an SB having a 100% platonic arrangement.

Does this actually happen? Are people paying some of these women just to have meals with them and talk?

(I once had an SB tell me that a very old man, like in his 90's, paid her 1 k just for dinner. I didn't believe her. I especially didn't believe her when I offered her 3 $ for an intimate date and she agreed to it. So I told her, 'I don't want to disappoint you' and I blocked her profile. I don't blame anyone for playing the game, but if you're telling me flagrant falsehoods, I'm walking.).[/QUOTE]My x GF and current BFF (with occasional benefits) is a dancer. She finds all her marks at the club and does not have sex with any of them. The money these guys spend definitely falls within the price ranges you have alluded to (and more). Sometimes they send her a $ or $$ for no reason at all. Kinda like just saying hi, have a nice day. And as far as the platonic, I have seen a very few deals where this went down and sometimes for some very serious coin. In the first two that come to mind, one was a very famous music industry guy that was gay and covering it up. The other was a guy that was permanently impotent due to an unfortunate accident. The gay guy never touched his girls and he had a bevy of a half dozen blonde bombshells at all times that he paraded all over hollywood/BH just to keep up his image. The accident victim did appreciate the love and cuddles, but no sex as it was not possible. These are first hand accounts from girls I dated.

Another best friend who only dates HNW individuals has told me numerous stories of lavish spending. But she is a C level entertainment industry executive. She requires at least a month of over the top gifts etc before they can even get near her kitty. There are many more stories I could tell but the point is that spending is many time relative to net worth or income. I have also been in the 5k+ a month club in years gone by, because it just didn't matter... but those were girls I lived with.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5794518]My x GF and current BFF is a dancer. She finds all her marks at the club. The money these guys spend definitely falls within the price ranges you have alluded to. Sometimes they send her a $ or $$ just for no reason at all. Kinda like just saying hi. And as far as the platonic, I have seen a very few deals where this went down and sometimes for some very serious coin.[/QUOTE]Wow. That's really something. That'll never be me, but I do applaud your ex for making that happen. I know a few of profiles also say that they're into FinDom and paypigs, and I just CAN'T picture myself being into that. But to each their own.

The fact that dudes are being referred to as 'marks' is all that I need to hear.

What a time to be alive.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5794518]I have also been in the 5k+ a month club in years gone by...[/QUOTE]I think you may have a couple of years on me, so if you don't mind me asking, what keeps you in the game? Is it still fulfilling? I've often thought about walking away because it seems to be getting more frustrating and not nearly as fun as when I started.

[QUOTE=CallMeTater;5794424]Second link is a convo, not a profile.[/QUOTE]Thanks for pointing it out. This is link to her profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a3cc788-1139-49aa-864b-813c31689550[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimRob;5794566]Thanks for pointing it out. This is link to her profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0a3cc788-1139-49aa-864b-813c31689550[/URL][/QUOTE]Be careful if you keep talking to her. 9/10 when they have their location to "las Vegas strip" they are scammers looking to get $ with no meets (since a local girl would know to list "las Vegas" and not "las Vegas strip" The only exceptions I've found are girls visiting Vegas for the week (or weekend) and looking to make some quick cash for their trip. I like those girls.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5794525]Wow. That's really something. That'll never be me, but I do applaud your ex for making that happen. I know a few of profiles also say that they're into FinDom and paypigs, and I just CAN'T picture myself being into that. But to each their own.

The fact that dudes are being referred to as 'marks' is all that I need to hear.

What a time to be alive.[/QUOTE]Actually she usually refers to them as her hoes. And some of the shit I see guys asking her for on her only fans is sometimes hilarious and sad at the same time. But I don't judge what gets any guy off as I have a few quirks of my own. And I wish I could spend like a drunken sailor sometimes. But I get a perverse pleasure in making it as transactional as possible for as little as possible.

To each their own. Maybe I'm just not nearly as in tune with the game as I thought I was. I only ever really fire up SA or Tinder whenever I'm out of town for a convention or assignment and have 6 or so hours to kill. Tinder used to be a lot more fun, but the amount of time it takes to nail down a date is more frustrating than it's worth. I've only ever been to a strip club once while in Vegas and that was many moons ago. So what you're telling me is incredibly fascinating. I can't do the Only Fans stuff at all. I just don't see how it could be worth any amount of money. But then again, to each their own. It's not my cash.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5795496]Actually she usually refers to them as her hoes. And some of the shit I see guys asking her for on her only fans is sometimes hilarious and sad at the same time. But I don't judge what gets any guy off as I have a few quirks of my own. And I wish I could spend like a drunken sailor sometimes. But I get a perverse pleasure in making it as transactional as possible for as little as possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5796988]To each their own. Maybe I'm just not nearly as in tune with the game as I thought I was. I only ever really fire up SA or Tinder whenever I'm out of town for a convention or assignment and have 6 or so hours to kill. Tinder used to be a lot more fun, but the amount of time it takes to nail down a date is more frustrating than it's worth. I've only ever been to a strip club once while in Vegas and that was many moons ago. So what you're telling me is incredibly fascinating. I can't do the Only Fans stuff at all. I just don't see how it could be worth any amount of money. But then again, to each their own. It's not my cash.[/QUOTE]I have found tinder to be for me, a waste of time. And as much as OF girls get paid for just selling videos I can't imagine having any real success there.

Hey guys, I'm visiting your fair city in a couple of weeks. First off, I've read about 20 pages back so, yes, I RTFF, LOL. As I have been blasting messages to potential SBs in LV, I'm trying to get a bead on how much more it's going to cost compared to the Charlotte area. Admittedly, I have been shooting for top tear centerfold looking profiles as this is kind of a special occasion for me. I'll be all alone for 3 days where I can buy anything, literally. So no worry of perfume smells, unexplained texts, staying out late, nothing. Anyway, the first few replies have been a thousand to 15 notes. I will eventually weed through them but after reading a little, sounds like you guys are sticking to 4, 5, and 6 bills. That would get you top notch ass here. I just hope it will get me pretty descent quality on the strip. I know anything is possible, but what is probable? Could I land an Eros quality SB for a 2 or 3 hour date and get out for 5 or 6 bills? BTW, I don't necessarily need 20 something college girls, I'm finding them more and more difficult to tolerate when I spend my money. So a fitness oriented 30 or 40 something would work as well. Otherwise, I will likely go the Eros path with good reviews and bite the bullet. Thanks for any feedback.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5802142]Hey guys, I'm visiting your fair city in a couple of weeks. First off, I've read about 20 pages back so, yes, I RTFF, LOL. As I have been blasting messages to potential SBs in LV, I'm trying to get a bead on how much more it's going to cost compared to the Charlotte area. Admittedly, I have been shooting for top tear centerfold looking profiles as this is kind of a special occasion for me. I'll be all alone for 3 days where I can buy anything, literally. So no worry of perfume smells, unexplained texts, staying out late, nothing. Anyway, the first few replies have been a thousand to 15 notes. I will eventually weed through them but after reading a little, sounds like you guys are sticking to 4, 5, and 6 bills. That would get you top notch ass here. I just hope it will get me pretty descent quality on the strip. I know anything is possible, but what is probable? Could I land an Eros quality SB for a 2 or 3 hour date and get out for 5 or 6 bills? BTW, I don't necessarily need 20 something college girls, I'm finding them more and more difficult to tolerate when I spend my money. So a fitness oriented 30 or 40 something would work as well. Otherwise, I will likely go the Eros path with good reviews and bite the bullet. Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]If you go for 30-40 insanely hot and fit girls you should find a lot of takers around 5. I would just blast out a carefully worded letter saying you are looking for a 3 hour date for 5 and see how many answer. Be careful not to say sex or ppm.

Here's a tip that may help you:

A lot of these women are using their social media as advertising to fake a lavish lifestyle. But who isn't faking it these days? No harm, no foul in my opinion as long as both parties fulfill their obligations. Anyway, if you can expense meals, I'd get a reservation at a nicer place to blow your per diem. Lower your gift amount, but play up your reservation to a nice restaurant, stating that you'd like company to a nice dinner. Judging by what sort of person she is, she likely won't turn down the chance to take pictures of herself and her food at a restaurant she can't typically afford. Especially if you've already done all the work. For instance, instead of offering 5. Offer 4 but open it with the dinner plans. If it works, that's less that comes out of your own pocket.

A lot of these women just like the image and feeling of someone better off than they are splurging on them. She doesn't have to know that you didn't pay for all of it. Shoot, she might even be impressed by it. You could use it as status leverage. Which is bullsh*t, but it works.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5802142]Hey guys, I'm visiting your fair city in a couple of weeks. First off, I've read about 20 pages back so, yes, I RTFF, LOL. As I have been blasting messages to potential SBs in LV, I'm trying to get a bead on how much more it's going to cost compared to the Charlotte area. Admittedly, I have been shooting for top tear centerfold looking profiles as this is kind of a special occasion for me. I'll be all alone for 3 days where I can buy anything, literally. So no worry of perfume smells, unexplained texts, staying out late, nothing. Anyway, the first few replies have been a thousand to 15 notes. I will eventually weed through them but after reading a little, sounds like you guys are sticking to 4, 5, and 6 bills. That would get you top notch ass here. I just hope it will get me pretty descent quality on the strip. I know anything is possible, but what is probable? Could I land an Eros quality SB for a 2 or 3 hour date and get out for 5 or 6 bills? BTW, I don't necessarily need 20 something college girls, I'm finding them more and more difficult to tolerate when I spend my money. So a fitness oriented 30 or 40 something would work as well. Otherwise, I will likely go the Eros path with good reviews and bite the bullet. Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5802142]Hey guys, I'm visiting your fair city in a couple of weeks. First off, I've read about 20 pages back so, yes, I RTFF, LOL. As I have been blasting messages to potential SBs in LV, I'm trying to get a bead on how much more it's going to cost compared to the Charlotte area. Admittedly, I have been shooting for top tear centerfold looking profiles as this is kind of a special occasion for me. I'll be all alone for 3 days where I can buy anything, literally. So no worry of perfume smells, unexplained texts, staying out late, nothing. Anyway, the first few replies have been a thousand to 15 notes. I will eventually weed through them but after reading a little, sounds like you guys are sticking to 4, 5, and 6 bills. That would get you top notch ass here. I just hope it will get me pretty descent quality on the strip. I know anything is possible, but what is probable? Could I land an Eros quality SB for a 2 or 3 hour date and get out for 5 or 6 bills? BTW, I don't necessarily need 20 something college girls, I'm finding them more and more difficult to tolerate when I spend my money. So a fitness oriented 30 or 40 something would work as well. Otherwise, I will likely go the Eros path with good reviews and bite the bullet. Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]I have found great company for far less with great looking ladies imo, I tried to reply to your message but your inbox is full.

Sorry guys, I cleaned out the inbox if you want to try again.

[QUOTE=Onecurious;5804125]I have found great company for far less with great looking ladies imo, I tried to reply to your message but your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]

After the first 12 responses (with gift requirements) ranged from 1 k to 2 k, I just had my first 600. I don't know whether to be relieved or suspicious, LOL. As mentioned, I targeted, what now seems to be, IG models out of the gate so I expected some GPS. But even the 30 and 40 year old girls are holding tough. I have a couple more weeks to wear them down or find my niche but looks like it's going to be an expensive trip either way. Thanks for any info and I'll share what I have so far.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5804577]Sorry guys, I cleaned out the inbox if you want to try again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5805984]After the first 12 responses (with gift requirements) ranged from 1 k to 2 k, I just had my first 600. I don't know whether to be relieved or suspicious, LOL. As mentioned, I targeted, what now seems to be, IG models out of the gate so I expected some GPS. But even the 30 and 40 year old girls are holding tough. I have a couple more weeks to wear them down or find my niche but looks like it's going to be an expensive trip either way. Thanks for any info and I'll share what I have so far.[/QUOTE]Try hitting up the younger ones, if you like those ages, usually a better deal, imo.

[QUOTE=GutterMind4;5805984]After the first 12 responses (with gift requirements) ranged from 1 k to 2 k, I just had my first 600. I don't know whether to be relieved or suspicious, LOL. As mentioned, I targeted, what now seems to be, IG models out of the gate so I expected some GPS. But even the 30 and 40 year old girls are holding tough. I have a couple more weeks to wear them down or find my niche but looks like it's going to be an expensive trip either way. Thanks for any info and I'll share what I have so far.[/QUOTE]Just because they say 1 k means very little. Hit them back with best I can do is 300 and dinner or whatever and many will bite. They just start high but are shocked if you accept.

Hey all, I've been lurking around here for a while and never really posted because I didn't feel like I had much to add. But I wanted to say thank you to everyone who's put time and effort into the thread. I recently signed up for a paid SA subscription for the first time and while this isn't my home market, I visit Las Vegas regularly so this thread is still relevant to me. If there is any way I can help or add to what's already here, I'll try to do so. I've been putting a lot of time on SA chatting and might have some promising leads, we'll see. I've struggled being efficient with some of my opening messages in trying to get to the point, but also not be explicit and afoul of the rules on SA.

But a couple Las Vegas specific questions. What in general is most common for the initial meet? Is it meeting for a coffee, drinks, meal, or do things just end up going straight to your place (or in my case hotel room)? Do most women want to be taken out somewhere and enjoy that? And lastly do most women have some sort of transportation or need an uber, pick up, etc.? My guess would be the answer is 'it depends', but I just didn't know if anyone had something else to add. Also, I'm not looking for the high end model types. I'm more geared towards decent looking regular women with day jobs or younger college types (max $$$ but preferably less budget range if that helps). I don't always have a rental car, which is the reason for the question.

Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5806063]Just because they say 1 k means very little. Hit them back with best I can do is 300 and dinner or whatever and many will bite. They just start high but are shocked if you accept.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5806063]Just because they say 1 k means very little. Hit them back with best I can do is 300 and dinner or whatever and many will bite. They just start high but are shocked if you accept.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806506]Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.[/QUOTE]Negotiating from 1000 down to 300 has never worked for me. Also I never let the lady name her price, I always tell them I usually do 400 for dinner and fun. Some girls are down because that's within their range, but the ones that want 1000 either never respond to me, or they tell me that "400 is too low, good luck. " When I ask how much they're looking for, they usually say a much higher figure, like 800-1000. I tell them I can go up to 500, and usually get ghosted or an "LOL" and then blocked. Never once has a girl named 1000, then settled for 300 or 400. And I'm not taking these girls to shit places, it's always Carbone or STK or something because I like nice restaurants and I tell them that. The fine dining doesn't sway them, if they're hot they have a hundred dudes on Tinder waiting to take them to Gordon Ramsey.

So very true! A fool and his money are soon parted is a common saying for a reason! You know how Rich people stay rich? By negotiating EVERYTHING and paying as little as possible. Just because I CAN afford it doesn't mean I should pay it.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806506]Exactly! I did this very thing my last trip to Vegas. 'I've got $3 to spend today and I was looking for a little bit of company. Let me know if you'd like to join me for drinks and some fun. Let's discuss. Have a good one. ' I landed a date within a few hours and had more takers, but I was already busy.

As someone who had friends who sugared in a past life, they think you're an idiot if you immediately agree to their initial sky high ask. They expect you to negotiate. And when you don't, they think you're scared, a newbie, a weirdo who has ulterior motives, or an idiot.

Also, I don't know who told so many people that people with means don't negotiate. That is absolutely false. And it amazes me the number of profiles that I see it on and women who actually believe it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5806536]Negotiating from 1000 down to 300 has never worked for me. Also I never let the lady name her price, I always tell them I usually do 400 for dinner and fun. Some girls are down because that's within their range, but the ones that want 1000 either never respond to me, or they tell me that "400 is too low, good luck. " When I ask how much they're looking for, they usually say a much higher figure, like 800-1000. I tell them I can go up to 500, and usually get ghosted or an "LOL" and then blocked. Never once has a girl named 1000, then settled for 300 or 400. And I'm not taking these girls to shit places, it's always Carbone or STK or something because I like nice restaurants and I tell them that. The fine dining doesn't sway them, if they're hot they have a hundred dudes on Tinder waiting to take them to Gordon Ramsey.[/QUOTE]I once had a woman who initially quoted me 1 k say that she could do $6, but that was the absolute lowest because she had to get a babysitter. She was indeed super hot, but definitely had a kid to worry about. So maybe she's an outlier. She also continued to be friendly after I passed. Told me to hit her up next time I was in Vegas.

I should also provide a bit of context, I don't typically angle for those sort of women because everyone and their mom can tell that you've paid for a date. I once scheduled a M&G, and because I knew she couldn't help but be conspicuous and by her own admission, 'Always wears pumps and designer dresses', and would stick out like a sore thumb at a Starbucks. Upon hearing this, I told her to 'dress as if she was going on a Target run on Saturday afternoon' and she reacted like I tried to shoot her dog.

The arm candy, 'I always attract all the attention when I walk in the room' stuff isn't for me. I've been to far too many business functions and people can spot it out immediately. There's nothing wrong with that, I just don't like the attention. Some of the best dates I've ever had was when I and a SB went out, got drunk, people watched, and then headed back to my room. Again, I'm not knocking anyone's preferences, but a woman near or around 30, who has a real job, actually appreciates the gift, and doesn't immediately forget that stack you've just handed her like she has the memory of a goldfish, has always been my bread and butter.

I also scoff at profiles that say they're 'accustomed to luxury'. Sure, honey, your handbag was made in a sweatshop right alongside the bootlegs. Calm down.

As far as the women who are quoting 1 k and won't budge, try them again, just for giggles, a few months after tax refunds have rolled out or a few days before their rent is due. I bet they'd agree to 7, if not 6. Just a hunch.

Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5814310]Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you try telling her you have 300 to spend and for her to let you know if she's looking for dinner and a fun time LOL.

Looking to trade UTR info from SA for another of similar value (BBFS + CIP).

Last trip I got lucky with SA and ended up with knockout blonde from SA that works at Sapphires. She is mid / late 20's, blonde hair now (was black when I saw her), absolutely huge bombs (and extra large areolas! Met for drinks in casino and went to hotel for 3+ hours of BBFSCIP. Was very simple process via SA. She has never been mentioned on here on any other forums. She is very chill, and was fun to hang out with as well.

I am only looking to trade info for BBFSCIP and ideally over 25 years old.

1200 for a hood rat? I'll bet she's booked every night!

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5814310]Asked for 1200 ppm for up to 3 hours of together time. Come to you. Prefers to meet later in evening after 9 pm. Dinner, show, private time. Passed on meeting.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/78b710be-d997-41a5-84de-d55e0dadd923[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5814677]Did you try telling her you have 300 to spend and for her to let you know if she's looking for dinner and a fun time LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm actually curious about your approach and how you converse with women. Do you chat them up a bit before getting into logistics? Are you open to M&G's where they can walk if you two aren't into one another? Because I don't think your experiences aren't real, but I just haven't experienced that. I've never gotten a 'LOL, good luck' and I can't remember the last time I got blocked immediately when our figures didn't match up.

I'm not knocking your game, just interested in your approach.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;5806604]I once had a woman who initially quoted me 1 k say that she could do $6, but that was the absolute lowest because she had to get a babysitter. She was indeed super hot, but definitely had a kid to worry about. So maybe she's an outlier. She also continued to be friendly after I passed. Told me to hit her up next time I was in Vegas.

I should also provide a bit of context, I don't typically angle for those sort of women because everyone and their mom can tell that you've paid for a date. I once scheduled a M&G, and because I knew she couldn't help but be conspicuous and by her own admission, 'Always wears pumps and designer dresses', and would stick out like a sore thumb at a Starbucks. Upon hearing this, I told her to 'dress as if she was going on a Target run on Saturday afternoon' and she reacted like I tried to shoot her dog.

The arm candy, 'I always attract all the attention when I walk in the room' stuff isn't for me. I've been to far too many business functions and people can spot it out immediately. There's nothing wrong with that, I just don't like the attention. Some of the best dates I've ever had was when I and a SB went out, got drunk, people watched, and then headed back to my room. Again, I'm not knocking anyone's preferences, but a woman near or around 30, who has a real job, actually appreciates the gift, and doesn't immediately forget that stack you've just handed her like she has the memory of a goldfish, has always been my bread and butter.

I also scoff at profiles that say they're 'accustomed to luxury'. Sure, honey, your handbag was made in a sweatshop right alongside the bootlegs. Calm down.

As far as the women who are quoting 1 k and won't budge, try them again, just for giggles, a few months after tax refunds have rolled out or a few days before their rent is due. I bet they'd agree to 7, if not 6. Just a hunch.[/QUOTE]I try to pick out a SB with a down to earth profile. Late 20-or 30's. Single with kids. Appreciate a date and should know how to please a man. Any SB with -the (I want to be treated like a princess) or (I'm accustomed to luxury) in the profile is a pass. The young (really pretty ones) have poor comms and entitled attitudes and think that letting you be seen with them out in town and a quick bang (while they lay there) is all the reward for your donation deserves.

Anyone have any knowledge of this SB?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f0743ea-152e-4817-9179-f9fd3f349257[/URL]

She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL]

[QUOTE=KSpacey;5817914]She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL][/QUOTE]I met her last summer, my experience was amazing. Sorry yours wasn't.

[QUOTE=KSpacey;5817914]She has a new profile but when I tried to see her on her old profile, she and her pimp boyfriend grabbed my money and took off.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bb36d803-3717-4061-8876-48ffa78c069b[/URL][/QUOTE]I've never met her, but her is another one of her profiles. I'm guessing she creates new ones as her old ones get blocked / reported: [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ce7f8a5-db46-4fe9-92ee-1d1f612110a2[/URL].

[QUOTE=Coliny;5817814]Anyone have any knowledge of this SB?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f0743ea-152e-4817-9179-f9fd3f349257[/URL][/QUOTE]I had a meet and greet with her 3 years ago, but never had an intimate date. IMO, she's a "pro" SB in that she's been in this game a long time, regularly comes back with new profiles on SA or WYP. She's been using "27" as her age for a while now, I'm guessing she's early 30's. She does have at least one kid.

She was very annoying during brunch and ordered extra food to take home to her kid and was adamant we get dessert too. Gave off food rinser vibes, LOL. I didn't like her and didn't pursue another meet. I think she was asking for 400 PPM, but again this was 3 years ago and since she gave off pro vibes I'm guessing she asks for more now.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8a5209d4-b643-421b-8ec7-868a999eba41[/URL]

She SAYS she is very picky, sees very few people and NEVER does BBFSCIP. Of course she agreed to my $300 offer instantly, showed up on time, and barely asked for a condom. So as usual YMMV.

DFK, CIP, Sensual Blasian with increadible skin. Absolute knockout if you like the small tits, thin waist, bubble butt look.

I know there are a lot of scammers and flakes on there, so I thought I would share one who actually showed up and look like her pics.

Don't be surprised if she doesn't answer however, took her 2 days to answer me and she SAYS she rarely answers anyone on the site. If you can get her to your place though well worth it!

Been experimenting with offering $$ to the nicer looking girls. She said it was $$$ and up. I declined.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f13dea3f-1e5d-4ded-8fe4-93e9fb01a949[/URL]

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5827585][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8a5209d4-b643-421b-8ec7-868a999eba41[/URL]

She SAYS she is very picky, sees very few people and NEVER does BBFSCIP. Of course she agreed to my $300 offer instantly, [/QUOTE]She has also ignored my $$ offer.

What is everyone's experience with Secret Benefits? I joined recently and my experience is that I buy a bunch of credits just to see the girl's secret album and even to send first message. A significant number of them grant access to secret album, about 15-20% actually the respond to first message, and less than 5% even exchange more than two messages.

There is far more engagement on SA, and even though WYP has similar issues to secret benefits, even WYP is far better in my experience.

Anyone have positive experiences to share re: secret benefits?

Messaged with this one for a bit. Not really my type but I thought if she would go for $$ or less I might be willing to take a chance. Before I offered she stated she gets 1500 for ppm "plus tip". If someone has ever given her anywhere close to that even for an entire night, they must have been drunk.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/49e61278-e498-49be-b3a6-3e14f54b07e5[/URL]