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[QUOTE=Orl Woodpecker]I think it would appropriate to say Leo cannot use her information in court. I would wager a bet that Berry's gang tries to get information from the ladies to use to harass may-be mongers. Suppose they get a provider to say she was picked up by a guy driving a red Dodge pickup. If they see a red Dodge pickup with only a guy in it making a turn around or cruising, I bet they will follow that vehicle waiting for a scoop...[/QUOTE]
It's right that they might use the information in your scenario to hassle a monger, but that is a long way from using the information in court.

As Orlando J said, using it in court would require a Judge to admit the information into a case, which would be unlikely since it would be hearsay.

Using the information on the street to harass a monger is entirely different, in which case, as Orlando J said, admit to nothing. Without definite proof, the person in your scenario might be stopped and questioned (most probably in violation of his Rights) but unless he admitted to being the gent who picked her up, they would have no cause to arrest him for monger-related activities.

Wallie

[size=-2]I am not a lawyer and this should not be taken as legal advice, just advice. Consult a lawyer if you need one, not an anonymous board on the internet.[/size]

As I understood from the question that it's the case of an escort being arrested.
From experience during many years worse I used my personal cell-phone to do all my calls. I have never had problems. I had calls from providers, pimps and who knows offering me. I met girls that are not advertising. Just be careful what to say on the phone.

Now read these scenarios and the bolded italic portions that I added:

Let's say I pull over and invite someone into my car. We drive away and an officer pulls my vehicle over. I haven't committed a crime

The officer might have just cause to pull me over. What he witnessed was a female who he knows to be a prostitute enter a males vehicle in an area that is "infested" with drug dealers and prostitutes. What he witnessed was "Suspected"; he has "Just Cause" to investigate.
[b][i] you need to cooperate[/i][/b]

So he turns on the Christmas tree lights and you pull over...

LESSON 1: DON'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING - EVER!

The officer probably will leave you in your vehicle and ask your young friend to step to the back. Depending on the SW, and your relationship with her she's going to do one of two things. LIE is one of them. She DOESN'T want to go to jail. And if she get arrested she would appreciate it if the officer charges her with the minimal statute. She likely to cooperate with the officer. So if the two of you talked pay-for-play she'll "implicate" you.
[b][i] you also need to cooperate. Give simple short answers
I just offered her a ride...[/i][/b]

Hopefully you just said hello and didn't get into any $ yet. As far as you're concerned you haven't done anything illegal. The officer isn't stupid. He knows you haven't broken the law - and, he knows exactly why you picked up your new female "friend." HE will start a little speech about prostitutes, drug dealers, STDs...yada yada yada... and inform you that your new friend has been arrested numerous times for prostitution and possession...Don't answer anything but, "I haven't done anything wrong. I just offered her a ride...she looked like she needed a lift." REMEMBER - THE OFFICER IS CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION.

So let's say you just picked her up; she hops in, does a Jimmy check and the two off you start talking half-and-half, ben - jackson and abe...and then the cop take you down. I'd be real worried about then 'cause she's not going to attempt to lie her way out of it to save your ass. You're both probably going for a ride. If she's lucky with minimum charges if she's not holding any dope. If you're lucky it will be your 1st offense - it still will hurt your wallet.

LESSON 2: THE COP ISN'T YOUR FRIEND Don't give him (or her) too much information. If your friend hasn't already admitted to "solicitation" or your "offer to" then all the officers can hope for is for you to ADMIT YOUR GUILT.
[b][i] that's when the officer would start pushing you. The officer will tell you "you are lying to me" "you are challenging my intelligence" "tell me the truth so I can help you"
Here are some more lies they may tell you:

* "You're not a suspect -just help us understand what happened here and then you can go."

* "If you don't answer my questions, I'll have no choice but to arrest you. Do you want to go to jail?"

* "If you don't answer my questions, I'm going to charge you with resisting an officer."

* "All of your friends have cooperated, and we let them go home. You're the only one left."

this and that "now that you did not tell me the truth I am placing you under arrest" [/i][/b]

If your friend has already "implicated" you, the officers are probably trying to get you to implicate yourself. KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING! EVER!!!
Even though she's a known prostitute her accusation alone might get you arrested - it might not get you charged. You might be released without charges at your arraignment. If both of you admit your involvement you are both in trouble and will probably be charged.
[b][i]The officer might charge you with obstruction of justice but the lawyer knows this is a BS charge.[/i][/b]
Here is a must see video:
[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6633354505266752695&ei=Q2lISd-WLYfq-gHYvcH4BQ&q=flex+your+rights+know+your&hl=en[/url]
[i]I am not a lawyer[/i]

[QUOTE=Orlando J]LESSON 1: DON'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING - EVER![/QUOTE]
I agree completely with your entire post. I once was pulled over and the officer tried to be my "friend, " asking me over and over why I was driving up and down the street. "I'm just looking for a 7-11" was my story, and I stuck to it, no matter how much he tried to get me to admit otherwise. It's unnerving to be asked the same question over and over, and le knows this. And so they will ask you the same question over and over, and use the other psychs you mentioned. Take me to jail and I still wouldn't admit to anything. This is the best attitude to have in these situations. Admitting anything means it's game over and you lose.

Another thing: when cruising, I always have a story in my head for why I'm in the area. That is, a good reason that I came from here, where I'm headed to, and for what reason. "Looking for a restaurant" is a good choice and I generally use that. "Just looking at the girls officer, but I'd never pick one up" is NOT ever the thing to say! I once got pulled over in North Vegas and the cop grilled me as to why I was in the area. "I was looking at the Casinos in this area. " That worked, but he said he didn't believe me. Of course le is going to express derision at anyone's story. Let him stand there all night and do so if he wants, but rest assured he'll be moving on soon enough, and so will you if you play your cards right.

I've also experienced le lying, as one time in Berkeley I happened to just look at a SW, was pulled over seconds later, and the officers said the SW admitted that I had propped her. Totally untrue, and in fact impossible. A real sucker gambit. Le will lie and in the same breath call you dishonest.

Always courteously play the victim if there's no strong evidence against you.

Sometimes I've thrown a cop a bone to let him understand that understand him, and respect his authority, but in a way that doesn't implicate me even one bit. I say something like this: "Look officer, I don't want any trouble. If you want me to leave this area, I will. " This is a good way to play the victim. By all means, let the officer know in an unaggressive way that you are not flouting his authority. At the same time, let him know that if he doesn't have evidence and you don't admit wrongdoing (including any kind of intent) then he's flirting with charges of harrassment. "Look, I don't want any trouble. If you want me to leave this area, I will" is an artful way to do both.

Once I was pulled over in a very Hispanic neighborhood by a Hispanic cop. I am not Hispanic. As he came up to the window and before he said a word, I said to him, it is obvious that you pulled me over because I am white and not Hispanic. He was so taken aback by my allegation, that he just mumbled something and let me go. Driving While White!

If you are stopped, take a deep breath and just remember one fact. You really are a lot smarter than even the smartest LE, because they is really dumb.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Once I was pulled over in a very Hispanic neighborhood by a Hispanic cop. I am not Hispanic. As he came up to the window and before he said a word, I said to him, it is obvious that you pulled me over because I am white and not Hispanic. He was so taken aback by my allegation, that he just mumbled something and let me go. Driving While White!

If you are stopped, take a deep breath and just remember one fact. You really are a lot smarter than even the smartest LE, because they is really dumb.[/QUOTE]Take a look at a real attorney's advice when dealing with the police.

[url]http://www.regent.edu/admin/media/schlaw/LawPreview/[/url]

[QUOTE=Cassberry]Take a look at a real attorney's advice when dealing with the police.

[url]http://www.regent.edu/admin/media/schlaw/LawPreview/[/url][/QUOTE]
It's rather long, but very good advice. I think that video and the one recommended by Orlando J should be required watching before mongering.

Thank you. If only he talks slowly :) none the less and joking aside a very good video. A very well-done presentation. I learned a lot.
Thanks Cassberry
[QUOTE=Cassberry]Take a look at a real attorney's advice when dealing with the police.

[url]http://www.regent.edu/admin/media/schlaw/LawPreview/[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orl Woodpecker]It's rather long, but very good advice. I think that video and the one recommended by Orlando J should be required watching before mongering.[/QUOTE]
I just saw your post. Thanks Orl Woodpecker

[QUOTE=Cassberry]Take a look at a real attorney's advice when dealing with the police.

[url]http://www.regent.edu/admin/media/schlaw/LawPreview/[/url][/QUOTE]

I was not offering advice. To pull something like what I did off you have to be smarter than LE. Obviously, some members of this forum do not qualify.

The story you are about to read is recent and true. Names were not changed. Do not look for this girl on the internet. You will not find her. Do not look for her in Orlando. She is not there. However, she is one of the reasons I get legitimate massages at the AMPs in Orlando, I have to rest sometime.

I walked into the bar and immediately set my sights on the petite girl with the perfect ass. Redheads normally were not my style, but tonight I thought I would mix it up a bit. I liked the way she was wearing her hair – up and held in place by a faux diamond studded barrette. It took thought and planning. I just hoped she was as meticulous about everything else.

I pulled her close, looked into her big brown eyes and asked her her name. Melissa. What a great name, I said. She laughed. How about we get away from this crowd and go to the VIP lounge? A short walk later we were sitting at our table with a couple of drinks and my hand between her legs. I kissed her neck and teasingly nibbled on her ear. She pulled her panties aside and put my fingers inside her to let me know my efforts were having the desired effect. We kissed. Slowly at first, then I took her head in my other hand and brought our lips and tongues together. She took my fingers from between her legs and sucked on each one. I liked this girl. I liked her a lot.

After about forty-five minutes, I could take no more and hobbled, with my erection evident to anyone nearby, to our room. Melissa immediately threw her arms around my neck and forced her tongue down my throat. This was a woman on a mission and it didn’t take long to find out what it was as she dropped to her knees and took me in her warm mouth. After fifteen minutes of this it took all my strength not to lose it right there, but I had a mission too. I pulled her up and gently laid her down on the bed as I brought my head between her legs. I circled her clit with my tongue and took in her nectar like a humming bird. So sweet. When I sensed her coming I slowed down and softly sucked on her lips. She begged and finally I gave in to her desire. She shuddered, moaned and then fell quiet. But not for long. She put a condom on me, laid back and pulled me into her. No lube necessary. That is for guys who think great sex is getting whacked off at an Asian massage parlor.

Melissa had told me she loved anal sex. Now was the time to find out just how much. I lifted her up and turned her around so I could take a closer look at that perfect ass. She reached around and guided me to it. I entered her slowly and my knees buckled a bit as the pleasure ran through me. She was tight and I knew I wouldn’t be able to take much of this. Melissa knew too and maneuvered me onto the bed as she removed the condom. She took me in her mouth again, but this time she wasn’t going to stop. Not until she had sucked me dry. And, suck me dry she did. She took all I had and was looking for more. She swallowed and smiled as she looked down at me. She pulled me close and thanked me. Yeah, I liked this girl. I liked her a lot.

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Thank You,

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[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]