BBQ and fight thread

[QUOTE=LancePkrbttm;2823551]Who? I loved Selena (cross between a spinner and a big booty black girl, one of the sexiest I have ever seen) but can't seem to arrange a repeat (since I brought up the topic others have hinted she is flaky). The board was going crazy for this pin cushion Alexis (the La Quinta / hottest spinner one, think she is staying with uncle on drug stuff or is on the run) who looked almost gross naked and fell asleep during the appointment (and I found out later I know some common people in the civvie world and let's just say there is a healthy amount of reasons to stay away too). I'm in Lex a lot and would love to make some pit stops while I'm down there.[/QUOTE]There is Lisa, Tory, Vivian Grace, and Natane Marie. Good reviews on Lisa and Tory. Vivian is always reliable. Natane is based in Lexington but travels all over.

[QUOTE=DickHead8;2822446]So I made my usual rounds this month on 7th and I am starting to be fed up with this whole drug scene that's going on here. It's disgusting and its a turn off when the females can't even hold their heads up long enough to have a conversation with you. Theres not one damn club on this strip that has sober talent. I'd rather save my money and go to Vegas! Maybe we need to do an intervention on 7th street clubs to not hire drug abusers! Hire good quality talent that likes to party not sleep![/QUOTE]Unfortunately you will find many that think this behavior is acceptable as long as they can get what they want. The hardcore drugs really put everyone at risk with all kinds of dangers. You will see time after time that a plethora of the ladies go to jail for stealing and robbing when they can't get there quick fix fast enough selling sex.

[QUOTE=MillitaryMan69;2823775]Unfortunately you will find many that think this behavior is acceptable as long as they can get what they want. The hardcore drugs really put everyone at risk with all kinds of dangers. You will see time after time that a plethora of the ladies go to jail for stealing and robbing when they can't get there quick fix fast enough selling sex.[/QUOTE]Had the unfortunate experience first hand. Was visiting a club and went to use the lavatory facilities and noticed a commotion. . one of the girls OD'ed on herion. I have a medical background (paramedic) and assisted as she was not breathing blue face the whole nine yards, kept her going til medical help arrived and gave her naloxone to counter the effects. I am from a small town and not used to the amount of drug use at leat on this scale. On the upside I actually have not run into walking into an establishment where everyone is nodding off. Maybe I am just lucky or hit on the right days?

Be safe.

DE.

[QUOTE=DeChamps;2825641]Had the unfortunate experience first hand. Was visiting a club and went to use the lavatory facilities and noticed a commotion. . one of the girls OD'ed on herion. I have a medical background (paramedic) and assisted as she was not breathing blue face the whole nine yards, kept her going til medical help arrived and gave her naloxone to counter the effects. I am from a small town and not used to the amount of drug use at leat on this scale. On the upside I actually have not run into walking into an establishment where everyone is nodding off. Maybe I am just lucky or hit on the right days?

Be safe.

DE.[/QUOTE]I've been getting an education on H use from a recovering addict lately. First and just to be clear all addicts that have or are quitting is considered to be a recovering addict because that demon never completely goes away. Some of the things that I have learned from this person about drug use has totally blown my mind. It's not just sleeping constantly or tracks, instead, there are a lot of small things to look for in identifying a user so everyone that is opposed to seeing girls that use H or ICE or whatever drug it may be I'd recommend studying up on the small signs or better yet if you know someone that is a recovering addict just talk to them. Most of them would be glad to talk with you about their addiction as it helps them deal with the daily struggle themselves but most importantly while you are talking to them please be supportive of their efforts. There is a lot of truth in the adage that says there is no one better at spotting a drug user than another drug user so listen to what they have to say instead of assuming they are just another addict. While I do not support us seeing girls that are known drug users I do think we should be showing a little more sympathy for their situation in life instead of being so quick to condemn them.

[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2826373]I've been getting an education on H use from a recovering addict lately. First and just to be clear all addicts that have or are quitting is considered to be a recovering addict because that demon never completely goes away. Some of the things that I have learned from this person about drug use has totally blown my mind. It's not just sleeping constantly or tracks, instead, there are a lot of small things to look for in identifying a user so everyone that is opposed to seeing girls that use H or ICE or whatever drug it may be I'd recommend studying up on the small signs or better yet if you know someone that is a recovering addict just talk to them. Most of them would be glad to talk with you about their addiction as it helps them deal with the daily struggle themselves but most importantly while you are talking to them please be supportive of their efforts. There is a lot of truth in the adage that says there is no one better at spotting a drug user than another drug user so listen to what they have to say instead of assuming they are just another addict. While I do not support us seeing girls that are known drug users I do think we should be showing a little more sympathy for their situation in life instead of being so quick to condemn them.[/QUOTE]I in no way condemn or judge any one for their flaws or addictions. Believe it or not I feel for any person who is taken over by addiction. All drugs, but opioids in particular literally change your brain chemistry to reduce you to a state that you would do all kinds of things to get your fix that you would never do for any other reason. And frequently in a twisted way many of these girls, especially the ones with pimps, are doing it only for the fix. In other words they could see 6 customers a day for 7 days a week and all they get out of it is a dirty flop house, McD's once a day and their regular heroin boost while thug daddy drives a caddy and lives in a luxury apartment. That being said, and I don't think I'm contradicting anybody, just reinforcing, all we can do is try to stay clear of the addicts and pimps. Unless we want to quit the game 100% you can never be sure your money isn't being channeled into H, pills or meth or anything else. We have a responsibility, if you want to phrase it that way, to not willfully or blindly see addicts or girls with pimps. What many mongers don't get, including those who lament the drug use or morality, is that one of the biggest hallmarks of independence and sobriety in providers is price and some restrictions on service and availability. One well respected monger recently "retired" based on his description that all providers where on drugs and he felt like an enabler. Yet his reviews were always about young girls willing to take it up the ass while eating another girl out for chump change on short notice to schedule. Well it doesn't work that way. You got to pay a little more and expect that sometimes they want a day off too. Anyway, I doubt most of you made it this far in my rant but I say stay safe, stay away from addicts and pimps but your'e not their father, husband or savior.

[QUOTE=Norsem;2826484]I in no way condemn or judge any one for their flaws or addictions. Believe it or not I feel for any person who is taken over by addiction. All drugs, but opioids in particular literally change your brain chemistry to reduce you to a state that you would do all kinds of things to get your fix that you would never do for any other reason. And frequently in a twisted way many of these girls, especially the ones with pimps, are doing it only for the fix. In other words they could see 6 customers a day for 7 days a week and all they get out of it is a dirty flop house, McD's once a day and their regular heroin boost while thug daddy drives a caddy and lives in a luxury apartment. That being said, and I don't think I'm contradicting anybody, just reinforcing, all we can do is try to stay clear of the addicts and pimps. Unless we want to quit the game 100% you can never be sure your money isn't being channeled into H, pills or meth or anything else. We have a responsibility, if you want to phrase it that way, to not willfully or blindly see addicts or girls with pimps. What many mongers don't get, including those who lament the drug use or morality, is that one of the biggest hallmarks of independence and sobriety in providers is price and some restrictions on service and availability. One well respected monger recently "retired" based on his description that all providers where on drugs and he felt like an enabler. Yet his reviews were always about young girls willing to take it up the ass while eating another girl out for chump change on short notice to schedule. Well it doesn't work that way. You got to pay a little more and expect that sometimes they want a day off too. Anyway, I doubt most of you made it this far in my rant but I say stay safe, stay away from addicts and pimps but your'e not their father, husband or savior.[/QUOTE]You are right, we cannot be their saviors or whatever. What we can be is a supportive friend to the ones that truly want to quit. Until they truly want to quit there is nothing we can do that will help them. Even not seeing them will not help them quit as they will find other ways to get their fix. IMO we should avoid seeing addicts for the sole reason of protecting ourselves and not in a vain effort to do them some sort of a favor. If anyone wants an idea of how bad it is out there just go sit in the parking lot of a drug rehab clinic on any morning of the week and watch the addicts go in and out with their kids in tow. So sad.

[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2826373]I've been getting an education on H use from a recovering addict lately. First and just to be clear all addicts that have or are quitting is considered to be a recovering addict because that demon never completely goes away. Some of the things that I have learned from this person about drug use has totally blown my mind. It's not just sleeping constantly or tracks, instead, there are a lot of small things to look for in identifying a user so everyone that is opposed to seeing girls that use H or ICE or whatever drug it may be I'd recommend studying up on the small signs or better yet if you know someone that is a recovering addict just talk to them. Most of them would be glad to talk with you about their addiction as it helps them deal with the daily struggle themselves but most importantly while you are talking to them please be supportive of their efforts. There is a lot of truth in the adage that says there is no one better at spotting a drug user than another drug user so listen to what they have to say instead of assuming they are just another addict. While I do not support us seeing girls that are known drug users I do think we should be showing a little more sympathy for their situation in life instead of being so quick to condemn them.[/QUOTE]Everything MojoGuy has said is absolutely true. Addicts will always be an addict, the ones that don't use anymore are recovering addicts or addicts in recovery. Recovering addicts hate the TV commercials for all the addiction counseling and rehab facilities that advertise people saying they were once an addict and no longer are, which is not true. Addiction is a disease and the infected person will never be cured, a recovering addict is always in remission. You never will hear an alcoholic that is in recovery say they are no longer an alcoholic they say that they are a recovering alcoholic. If you want an education then google Narcotics Anonymous and read up on Addict Behavior. Recovering addicts know that they only keep what they have accomplished by giving it away by helping others so recovering addicts are very willing to discuss their addiction. Step Eight is a list of all that the addict has harmed and the willingness to make amends to them all. Addict behavior extends far beyond using times and can take years of support / counseling to finally correct the "addict behavior" of a recovering addict. Support should be shown to recovering addicts who are truly in recovery. The one behavior that an addict is extremely proficient at is their ability to manipulate, lie, scheme, put up defenses, justify, rationalize and do anything to cover up their addiction. This is why it's so difficult to distinguish between an recovering addict, a social user, a real addict or an addict who is lying about being in recovery.

Mojo good luck to your recovering addict. Tell them they can do it with the support from you and others that care and to just take it, [B]One Day at a Time![/B].

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2828128]Everything MojoGuy has said is absolutely true. Addicts will always be an addict, the ones that don't use anymore are recovering addicts or addicts in recovery. Recovering addicts hate the TV commercials for all the addiction counseling and rehab facilities that advertise people saying they were once an addict and no longer are, which is not true. Addiction is a disease and the infected person will never be cured, a recovering addict is always in remission. You never will hear an alcoholic that is in recovery say they are no longer an alcoholic they say that they are a recovering alcoholic. If you want an education then google Narcotics Anonymous and read up on Addict Behavior. Recovering addicts know that they only keep what they have accomplished by giving it away by helping others so recovering addicts are very willing to discuss their addiction. Step Eight is a list of all that the addict has harmed and the willingness to make amends to them all. Addict behavior extends far beyond using times and can take years of support / counseling to finally correct the "addict behavior" of a recovering addict. Support should be shown to recovering addicts who are truly in recovery. The one behavior that an addict is extremely proficient at is their ability to manipulate, lie, scheme, put up defenses, justify, rationalize and do anything to cover up their addiction. This is why it's so difficult to distinguish between an recovering addict, a social user, a real addict or an addict who is lying about being in recovery.

Mojo good luck to your recovering addict. Tell them they can do it with the support from you and others that care and to just take it, [B]One Day at a Time![/B].[/QUOTE]You never hear of a major bust of opium in this country. My conclusion is the economy would go bust immediately.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2828128] The one behavior that an addict is extremely proficient at is their ability to manipulate, lie, scheme, put up defenses, justify, rationalize and do anything to cover up their addiction. This is why it's so difficult to distinguish between an recovering addict, a social user, a real addict or an addict who is lying about being in recovery.[/QUOTE]In your words that I quoted lies the struggle that faces the people (me) that knew the addict while they were an addict and also while they go through the recovery process. In my case the person I refer to did something that hurt me when that person was an addict and at that time I said goodbye to that person for what I fully intended to be forever. (not in those words though LOL) Six months passed then via email I received a heartfelt apology from that person. (I had the number blocked in my phone) After ignoring the apology for a few weeks I gave in and responded back. It was awkward at first but we started talking a lot and the next thing I knew we had made up and became friends. Even though I have forgiven that person for what happened it is still difficult for me to maintain my trust and faith in that person and every little thing that looks suspicious still causes me to go on high alert. While so far that person has been completely transparent and open with me about everything and even voluntarily offers physical evidence to prove they are not lying about anything it is still an internal struggle for me to not hold the past against that person but to date everything that has came up has in the end made our friendship stronger. You used the term "willingness to make amends" and that is exactly what that person does everyday. With each day that passes I can see more of the real person that's in there coming out and less of the old one that was there. I pray that continues.

This guy is quite a character. Reminds me of old time threads started by whoever talking big talk. Rarely have I read anything good from this monger but the PM's that I exchanged with him were spot on to my initial reply to him on certain providers on here.

Deacon Blue, again, now you know why I said seniors only. Now I see that you are on provider bashing threads. Hopefully you can one day calm down a bit and not be so angry.

Can't we all just get along? LOL.

MB.

[QUOTE=MagnumBrunneis;2835449]This guy is quite a character. Reminds me of old time threads started by whoever talking big talk. Rarely have I read anything good from this monger but the PM's that I exchanged with him were spot on to my initial reply to him on certain providers on here.

Deacon Blue, again, now you know why I said seniors only. Now I see that you are on provider bashing threads. Hopefully you can one day calm down a bit and not be so angry.

Can't we all just get along? LOL.

MB.[/QUOTE]+1.

Hmm. I got a lovely PM from this douche, too.

That's all we get day to day, we all need to prove ourselves every day. This H shit is fucked up, it's all over.

BG.

[QUOTE=MojoGuy;2830230]In your words that I quoted lies the struggle that faces the people (me) that knew the addict while they were an addict and also while they go through the recovery process. In my case the person I refer to did something that hurt me when that person was an addict and at that time I said goodbye to that person for what I fully intended to be forever. (not in those words though LOL) Six months passed then via email I received a heartfelt apology from that person. (I had the number blocked in my phone) After ignoring the apology for a few weeks I gave in and responded back. It was awkward at first but we started talking a lot and the next thing I knew we had made up and became friends. Even though I have forgiven that person for what happened it is still difficult for me to maintain my trust and faith in that person and every little thing that looks suspicious still causes me to go on high alert. While so far that person has been completely transparent and open with me about everything and even voluntarily offers physical evidence to prove they are not lying about anything it is still an internal struggle for me to not hold the past against that person but to date everything that has came up has in the end made our friendship stronger. You used the term "willingness to make amends" and that is exactly what that person does everyday. With each day that passes I can see more of the real person that's in there coming out and less of the old one that was there. I pray that continues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2840548]That's all we get day to day, we all need to prove ourselves every day. This H shit is fucked up, it's all over.

BG.[/QUOTE]You would think more mongers on here would criticize the drug use? It makes me very suspicious. Say no to drugs and no to those selling.

[QUOTE=MagnumBrunneis;2835449]This guy is quite a character. Reminds me of old time threads started by whoever talking big talk. Rarely have I read anything good from this monger but the PM's that I exchanged with him were spot on to my initial reply to him on certain providers on here.

Deacon Blue, again, now you know why I said seniors only. Now I see that you are on provider bashing threads. Hopefully you can one day calm down a bit and not be so angry.

Can't we all just get along? LOL.

MB.[/QUOTE]If I called you out its because you did or said something stupid, like trying to be cool and sneaky about not disclosing an issue with a provider that could be useful to us all just because I don't have enough posts do be a senior. You're such a loser.

[QUOTE=AUniqueName;2839052]+1.

Hmm. I got a lovely PM from this douche, too.[/QUOTE]You're the idiot running around admitting you're posts are 'worthless'. You bring nothing to the table except being the nerdiest dork on this entire site.