Does anyone have exp with these girls? Amber, Brooklyn and Coco? They are mostly at FC LS and sometimes at BTs.
Do they rip off or are they worth it? FS BBBJ or CBJ? TIA.
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Does anyone have exp with these girls? Amber, Brooklyn and Coco? They are mostly at FC LS and sometimes at BTs.
Do they rip off or are they worth it? FS BBBJ or CBJ? TIA.
[QUOTE=Hybrid7223;7047380]Over 18 trips mostly to BT's, (SC twice) in 2024, I've averaged $262 for full service + BJ, both almost exclusively covered, excluding tips, paying a max of $300 and a minimum of $200. My median is $250. And the
mode is $300. This is all day shift.
The max I've had requested was $500 once, $400 is a more common opener. I haven't been to the clubs in years so this was some either. So this was good info, as I don't want to contribute to inflation when I do go back. Thanks
All of that, as learned from here, is negotiated at the table, with pay at the end terms. I've never been outright refused on price, but I've agreed to as much as $50 more on counter offers. I have been refused once for pay at the end, I politely declined. I also tip pretty generously if all goes well. It might be worth noting I'm rather vanilla, not asking for anything special, and I make every effort to treat the performers with courtesy and respect. I very much appreciate their efforts.
Sorry if I've contributed too much to inflation. Still trying to improve my negotiation skills. I'd prefer to get my mode down to $250, which I think is a reasonable amount for BT's day shift, and $150-200 for SC.
Also, as this is my first post. Thanks to all the posters here. I've learned a great deal from you all, and it's helping me navigate some complicated times.[/QUOTE]Good information as I have not been to the clubs in years and don't want to contribute to the inflation.
So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.
I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.
From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.
I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).
Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?
This is obviously not par for the course, so I'd say enjoy it as much as you can for as long as you can.
Two things: 1, don't get emotionally attached to her. Like at all. Even if she seems to be getting emotionally attached to you, keep in mind she's literally a prostitute in a club and this is her job.
2, always wear a rubber, or at least do NOT bust inside her. Last thing you need is to be knocking up a prostitute.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7050189]So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.
I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.
From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.
I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).
Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamPerkins420;7050213]This is obviously not par for the course, so I'd say enjoy it as much as you can for as long as you can.
Two things: 1, don't get emotionally attached to her. Like at all. Even if she seems to be getting emotionally attached to you, keep in mind she's literally a prostitute in a club and this is her job.
2, always wear a rubber, or at least do NOT bust inside her. Last thing you need is to be knocking up a prostitute.[/QUOTE]Yep neither of these are a problem. I've only done BB a couple times and they were both early on in this hobby when I let booze get the better of me. Now I cut back so I've made some questionable decisions about my VIP pick for the night, but I keep the soda pop bottle lid on the pepsi at all times.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7050189]So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.
I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.
From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.[/QUOTE]If you're not married or without any commitments. Go for it. If she's not a US citizen you're in luck. She probably gets more benefits than you.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7050189] Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?[/QUOTE]Two scenarios come to mind. One, this is just how she keeps guys on the hook, so yeah, enjoy it. If you want to test this, PM me her name and I'll see if it works for me too LOL. Second, maybe you're seriously packin' and that's what she's into, but you're too modest / ignorant to mention it. :-D Either way, sounds like fun. GL!
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7050189]So I've got a bit of an unusual situation going here. I'm going to refrain from giving specific names due to the personal nature of this one.
I met this girl at one of the clubs and had an early VIP experience with her. She's super hot but not my normal type, but I've visited her a few times. A month or so ago I visited her and went to the VIP for extras. Something happened about halfway through and she went from the quiet girl I'd known to a bit more aggressive, starting to get loud even. I'm going to be honest, it most definitely wasn't anything I was doing. I enjoy the girls doing all the work when it's a paid engagement.
From that point on her texts went from "Hey are you going to come visit?" to pretty frequent "I need you" and "I will come in any day you can make it in, I need to see you" and even more graphic stuff. I figured it was just typical sales tactics, finally decided to go in last week and see her again. It was nuts, the second she saw me she was on me with her hand exploring. I told her I only had $. 5 so couldn't really afford a VIP trip, and she didn't even wince. Just grabbed my hand and took me to the room. And it was an experience. I don't think I've ever had anyone as aggressive, even had her tongue so far down my throat I think she could taste my lungs.
I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).
Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?[/QUOTE]D99,
Enjoy it, this doesn't sound that unusual to me.
She sounds like a real gem.
The important information. Is early VIP experience.
There is an evolutionary cycle most girls go through. I wrote a whole essay on this topic.
But the short version is many girls start at Stage 1 thinking they can dance on stage, grind in the VIP and maybe allow a couple guys to suck their tits. She is shocked and thoroughly offended about how many of us would like to enjoy her. Typically in this stage she has to be coaxed into the VIP.
Then she begins to understand how the other girls operate and maybe it is not so bad and she moves to stage 2. She is still shocked but no longer offended and has a small group of guys she decides she likes and are decent guys who she might be friends with outside the club instead of all the assholes she is meeting in the club offering her lowball prices for maximum service. This is the stage she often tries to build regulars with guys where were nice to her or decent with her during stage 1.
By the time she reaches stage 3 she is happy to go to the VIP with virtually any guy for almost any activity, unless there is something she dislikes or finds objectionable about you. She is neither shocked or offended but expects guys to behave this way towards her. She often is disconnected and see guys as ATMs.
You my friend seem to have caught a girl transitioning from stage 1 to stage 2. This is a great time to be with her, and often this stage doesn't last long. I would tell you her feelings toward you are genuine for whatever the reason she likes you and she likes giving you pleasure, and taking you to the VIP is how she makes her money. She does not want to see you outside the club because she is still a clean girl in her thinking, she has rationalized that if you were not seeing her in the club she might see you for free outside the club. That allows her to have great sex with you and at the same time not want to see you outside the club.
My advice to you is try to find a second or third girl this into you. They are rare but when you find them spend as much time as you can afford with her. She will harden up soon enough.
MM.
Anyone know if Nicole is still at H8?. Last few times I called over the past couple of weeks they kept saying she's not in. Figured she may be elsewhere now?
Very reasonable analysis MM.
And the monger's role is to help her move from Stage 1 to Stage 3. It can be both challenging and fun to "educate" a neophyte dancer.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7051729]D99,
Enjoy it, this doesn't sound that unusual to me.
She sounds like a real gem.
The important information. Is early VIP experience.
There is an evolutionary cycle most girls go through. I wrote a whole essay on this topic.
But the short version is many girls start at Stage 1 thinking they can dance on stage, grind in the VIP and maybe allow a couple guys to suck their tits. She is shocked and thoroughly offended about how many of us would like to enjoy her. Typically in this stage she has to be coaxed into the VIP.
Then she begins to understand how the other girls operate and maybe it is not so bad and she moves to stage 2. She is still shocked but no longer offended and has a small group of guys she decides she likes and are decent guys who she might be friends with outside the club instead of all the assholes she is meeting in the club offering her lowball prices for maximum service. This is the stage she often tries to build regulars with guys where were nice to her or decent with her during stage 1.
By the time she reaches stage 3 she is happy to go to the VIP with virtually any guy for almost any activity, unless there is something she dislikes or finds objectionable about you. She is neither shocked or offended but expects guys to behave this way towards her. She often is disconnected and see guys as ATMs.
You my friend seem to have caught a girl transitioning from stage 1 to stage 2. This is a great time to be with her, and often this stage doesn't last long. I would tell you her feelings toward you are genuine for whatever the reason she likes you and she likes giving you pleasure, and taking you to the VIP is how she makes her money. She does not want to see you outside the club because she is still a clean girl in her thinking, she has rationalized that if you were not seeing her in the club she might see you for free outside the club.[/QUOTE]
Thanks guys for the feedback. The dancer is not a new one, so I'm guessing she just got more comfortable with me. Either way, I'll enjoy as I can but I'll be winding down a bit since I went a bit overboard during the summer.
Started at BTs I'd guess 16 dancers - 7 of which were Cubans. English is getting better. Peaches blond that Jules reported on. Thought about taking her back but she exited stage to a booth. Demonic was there plus a good mix of ethnicities just nothing appealed to me. Traffic was heavy so stopped into LS for a break. Saw Violet was back. So immediately went to VIP. What a ride. Excellent head, sexy teasing and an energetic GFE. She can ride, bend moan. Tight for having a kid last year not stretch mark in site and flat abs. Tits are full. She's always a great time was good to reconnect.
Deano.
[QUOTE=AnonMan6;7051835]Anyone know if Nicole is still at H8?. Last few times I called over the past couple of weeks they kept saying she's not in. Figured she may be elsewhere now?[/QUOTE]She is still at H8. I saw her on Wednesday during day shift.
I reconnected with a monger friend at BT's recently for an enjoyable but unfortunately brief visit. He was already enjoying the company of a new in a booth when I arrived. I myself had no plans to take a girl to the VIP, just catch up with him and watch the ballgame.
However, while he was in the VIP, one of the dancers on stage at the other side of the room caught my eye because she was so flexible. She made eye contact while bending over double and looking back between her legs, and smiled; after her set, she came directly to me at my table. It was Demonic.
That lady is smart. Not only did she not wait for me to invite her, and not only did she convince me how horny she was, but she established common ground at the outset. We share interest in certain erotica, and we each formerly contracted through the same corporation. Some of her former coworkers follow her OF. This news renewed my faith that there must be a hot girl somewhere in my company that is doing the same, LOL.
She wore down my resolve to stay at the table by scrolling through photos a young gf sends me, and describing what she would like me to do to her in the VIP. I could not resist. We agreed on terms and went.
And OMG, did she deliver! My face and shirt were soaked. She did not lie or exaggerate about herself. When I returned to the booth, my monger friend looked at me and said "Look at that smile!" He also said "you were gone a long time! She's not a clockwatcher. ".
Demonic said she's been there four years. Strange how I have never met her until now. I had read her reviews here with some skepticism, but I am a believer now. She is all that and more.
[QUOTE=Sethnauman;7054983]She is still at H8. I saw her on Wednesday during day shift.[/QUOTE]
She's amenable to raw everything from what I hear (I got a BBBJ from her), so it's possible she WAS out for a test or something.
[QUOTE=Jules Jordan;7049601]Attached are labeled pictures of some H8 dancers that I enjoyed sampling over the years. All sessions included DFK, BBBJ, FIV, and CFS for 150 ish. Unfortunately, I lost interest and stopped visiting H8 last year. During the last few months, I've enjoyed day shift stops at BT's, Landing Strip, and Subi's Place.[/QUOTE]
I'm curious: what do you mean by lost interest? H8 is my preferred club when I go down to that area, but I only visit once or twice every 4 months. Do the other clubs have a wider selection of ladies? I know the ladies are definitely finer on average at Landing Strip/BT's (never hit Subis), but that's countered by the extra fees and higher prices overall.
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;7055009]It was Demonic.... She is all that and more.[/QUOTE]What was the damage? I have to admit that your story is very persuasive. I generally stick to SC because there are way more ripoff reports at BT's, but Demonic might make BT's worth a try!
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7050189]I'm hoping this is just "he's a regular so I feel more comfortable with him", because I know she's not actually into me (I tried to convince her to do OTC and no dice), but it's odd how she went from 0 to 60 on it. My slight paranoia is that she is not a US citizen so she's looking for a way to stay in (Not a Cuban, just not a US citizen).
Any red flags I should look out for? Or just enjoy the ride?[/QUOTE]She thinks you're her ticket to US citizenship. Like Darth Vader said to Luke Skywalker: "Search your feelings, you know it to be true."
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;7049705]Opted for a change from my usual so I decided to stop in at BT's last night.
Seemed a lot busier than previous times I've been there, especially prior to 10 pm. About 22-ish dancers around 9 PM. Good mix of ethnicities (as well as the Cuban inquisition) out of which True and Jessie caught my eye.
True is an ultimate spinner imo, and I had an excellent session with her. She's sweet and not very talkative but impressed me in the back and that's what matters, right?
Jessie is a short slim brunette with a southern accent who just moved to Michigan (her words). She is very attractive, but in the 5-ish minutes that she sat and talked she was pretty aggressive in the booth to go back and get dances. Almost an excessive amount of touching and crotch-grabbing without even being offered a drink. I'm sure you've all come across that type and I don't know about others, but it was kind of off-putting for me. But I'm not sure if that was just because she was new to the business, needed to make money fast, or a quantity-over-quality type, so I'm willing to give it another shot.
Does anyone have experience with Jessie?[/QUOTE]She quoted 3. Her head game was teethy and she wasn't into her hips being grabbed or certain positions, etc.
She's definitely hot and always aggressive in the crotch-grabbing, but I recommend discussing everything at the table before heading back.
[QUOTE=PinheadLarry;7056619]She quoted 3. Her head game was teethy and she wasn't into her hips being grabbed or certain positions, etc.
She's definitely hot and always aggressive in the crotch-grabbing, but I recommend discussing everything at the table before heading back.[/QUOTE]The other day she asked me for 400. After some back and forth she agreed to 250. After a long BJ. Pretty sure she was trying to get me off that way but like Larry said it was pretty teethy. She hesitated before the main event, insisting that I should give her 300 and not what we'd agreed to. (I hadn't paid her anything yet.) To her credit she didn't pull a ROB when I insisted and did proceed to FS. But she was pretty uninspired after that.
I went with her that afternoon because for my taste she was the hottest girl in the club among a pretty mediocre lineup. But I wouldn't repeat after that experience.
[QUOTE=PinheadLarry;7056619]She quoted 3. Her head game was teethy and she wasn't into her hips being grabbed or certain positions, etc.
She's definitely hot and always aggressive in the crotch-grabbing, but I recommend discussing everything at the table before heading back.[/QUOTE]My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.
[QUOTE=SteveSpy56;7043888]First off Hello, long time reader and fan of this page! Thanks to everyone who shares and apologizes for not sharing as often! But anywho I love seeing random videos on the web of places I have visited and girls I have seen before! This is not my video nor is it me in the video! But man oh man that girl is hot!
[URL]https://thotslife.com/emily-primrose-nude-stripper-titfuck-onlyfans-video-leaked/[/URL][/QUOTE]OMG, if she is available and working in Dt area clubs, please share.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7061288]My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.[/QUOTE]This is why young girls lie and say they are 22.
MM.
I don't ask their age but I usually hint around during our normal conversation and they will often end up on their own telling me their age, it doesn't matter to me though because either way I can't tell the difference between 19 and 25.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7061288]My only thought on that is that I know she's young, so just not a lot of experience. I was talking to her a while back and when I found out she was 19 that kinda killed it for me. I don't feel like a creep all that often when I'm at the club but I definitely did then.[/QUOTE]I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;7063601]I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.[/QUOTE]For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.
Went to SC, Bogie's and HVIII didn't find anything I wanted to bone or the few I did, did not do bare anything.
[QUOTE=HornKnee;7063841]For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.[/QUOTE]I'm with you. If she's legal and willing, I'm a buyer as well. Experience definitely lacked with the 1 18 yo I've fucked at these clubs. But not a deal breaker for me considering her body count from her second day on the job compared to a girl who's been dancing for 5+ years and the plethora of dicks she's taken. Great thing about this hobby, I keep getting older, and they stay the same age! My best experiences are with the 22-25 yo. But I do enjoy seeking out the newbies when I visit these places. Under 21 is hard to find. Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;7063601]I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. For me, if she's legal, I'm in. But yes, it does increase the odds that her skills are subpar.[/QUOTE]Amen to that! Funny how we hear the term 'creeper' but a term like 'creepette' is never brought out for the elderly, 20 years past their prime women.
I arrived about 5 pm, was pretty disappointed with the girls I seen but hoped there were some smaller ladies that were not out on the floor. Hazel was called on stage she is mid 20's slim gal. I tipped her on stage and after her set she came and sat with me, we had a very nice conversation for probably half hour. We went to the back and she provided a fantastic session, I paid 200 I hope to repeat soon.
[QUOTE=HornKnee;7063841]For some guys, if you're old enough, an 18 year old can seem like a kid. That can make some men feel like a creep. I don't have a problem engaging with an 18 year old in these clubs; if she's hot and selling, I'm buying. But I can totally understand guys who feel weirded out.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I admit it, sometimes I feel a bit like a Creepy Old Man, but after I think about it, I get over it.
Here's a funny story about guys getting older, and how we view women. Many years ago, Howard Stern had a TV show on the E Channel, and was talking with Norm McDonald, who was telling a story about when he was a kid.
Norm: "Hey Grandpa, do you and Grandma still. . . . You know. . . . (Norm pointing his index finger of one hand, into the circle of the thumb / index finger of the other hand, indicating do you still screw)".
Grandpa: "WHAT? ARE YOU KIDDING ME, LOOK AT HER!" (indicating disgust of Grandma's appearance).
Howard and Norm went on to talk about no matter how old and decrepit a man gets, in his mind he's always a 20-something Stud, always attracted to the 20-something hottie (or 18-19).
Well, it was a lot funnier than I can describe here, but it's spot on for this old, decrepit guy (but in my mind I'm only 20-something LOL).
[QUOTE=EFromMI;7064135]I arrived about 5 pm, was pretty disappointed with the girls I seen but hoped there were some smaller ladies that were not out on the floor. Hazel was called on stage she is mid 20's slim gal. I tipped her on stage and after her set she came and sat with me, we had a very nice conversation for probably half hour. We went to the back and she provided a fantastic session, I paid 200 I hope to repeat soon.[/QUOTE]I agree even I was disappointed with quality of girls but Hazel was smoking hot. I think even I was there when she was performing on stage and tipped her to get ig I'd as I was leaving and not interested in doing anything at back since HVIII private areas very cramped and not enjoyable. I think she is open to OTC sessions. Will can setup something.
[QUOTE=Sanctimonious6;7063601]I can understand the inexperience issue, but not the creepiness issue. [/QUOTE]I suggest all of you older experienced guys, impart some of your wisdom and teach a new inexperienced girl what a guy likes. She can't read your mind. Teaching a new girl can be very enjoyable.
And the other girls in the club are most likely to point her in the directions that hurts her earnings and bumps up their earning.
I happened to meet a girl one time in the club it was her second day working and was 18 years old. She told me all the girls where super nice and friendly. This is not usually my expectation of peelers. She said some of the girls were even coaching her and helping her. For example they told her the price for everything was $600. If she went for lower that would be unfair to the other girls. They all have to keep the price at $600. I told her the going rate is less than half that number. I said lets just sit here and watch the VIP, and we watch girls take guys in I say do you really think all those guys are spending $600. She said maybe they are just doing dances or BJ. I told her that my advice to her was to keep asking for $600 and see how many times she gets taken up on it.
I told her that she is a beautiful young girl and many guys will want to go to the VIP with her, but most will say no at such a high price. That is really the price s a girl says when she doesn't want to go to the VIP. Many guys only want to go if the girl wants to go. But consider that other girls who are your new friends and can also see you are beautiful young girl that many guys want to go with you, but if those guys don't go with you then they may go with the other girls as a second or third choice when they offer a much lower rate than you do.
She was highly skeptical of my advice and said I was trying to trick her or manipulate her. I said no think about there are only so many guys in the club on a given day, each additional or new girl is competition for the existing girls.
I didn't see her again for about six weeks. When I did she recognized me instantly and came walking over and said everything I warned her about was true, and she wants to go to the VIP and make it up to me. She asked what I thought is a fair price? I said $200 for everything, and she said she is giving me a discount for telling her the truth. We did many VIPs at $180 for the next year.
MM.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7064972]She was highly skeptical of my advice and said I was trying to trick her or manipulate her. I said no think about there are only so many guys in the club on a given day, each additional or new girl is competition for the existing girls.
I didn't see her again for about six weeks. When I did she recognized me instantly and came walking over and said everything I warned her about was true, and she wants to go to the VIP and make it up to me. She asked what I thought is a fair price? I said $200 for everything, and she said she is giving me a discount for telling her the truth. We did many VIPs at $180 for the next year.
MM.[/QUOTE]Awesome story, MM. Your wisdom once again abounds.
I think this is one of those "to each their own" things.
I have always been more into the MILF-ish types, mid 20's to late 30's with curves, even when I was younger. There's something about a mature, smart woman who understands sensuality and flirtiness that turns me on, plus the added option of using whatever she has beneath her shoulders to help make things happen. There's stuff you can do with D-cup women you can't do with A-cup ladies.
There are a lot of hot, young airheads. Not my type. In my experience, most women gain a certain confidence and sexiness with maturity. I'm not going to take a young, innocent 19-year-old and turn her into Mrs. Robinson in one night.
That's not to say there aren't some young women who have mastered sexiness, or older ladies who aren't either past their prime or just old and tired. But deal with enough dancers and, while you keep an eye open for exceptions, you identify certain traits that go together most of the time.
As for the creepiness factor, I'm not all the way there yet, but I'm to the point now where if I see a "wristband girl"* I know I'm going to have to talk to her and feel things out. If she seems a little too innocent for her own good, I'll probably pass. I pay to take classes, not be the teacher. Even the best rookies don't have the game experience the veterans do to know how to perform at the highest level.
It's also part of the reason I think these idiot guys out there looking for women who have remained a virgin or have been saving themselves for one man are off their rocker. Forget that. Give me a woman who knows what she's doing and has had practice. I wonder how many of those guys are surprised when they find out their lady has no clue what to do in bed and the only way out is through a divorce lawyer. At least if you get an experienced woman, you know what you're getting into and, if you're open-minded enough, you allow each other to get experience with whoever, however and are fine with it.
* - maybe or maybe not in Detroit, but many clubs will make girls under 21 wear a wristband to show they're not legal drinking age.
Re: my midweek midafternoon visit to BT's: a little busier than usual with only one booth available on the lower level, nearest the restrooms. At least a dozen girls about the floor, with two on stage. I was there between sessions with my regulars, to meet a monger buddy before he left town. I settled in to wait for his arrival while I nursed a club soda and watched the Tigers.
I would have gladly taken Demonic to the VIP, but I never saw her. Instead, I was approached individually by four of the five Cuban dancers who sat together at a table between my booth and the stage. My experience was similar to those reported by other members: they were forward, direct, obvious, and although pretty, their demeanor was just not that appealing.
Unlike the other mongers, although rusty, I do know enough Spanish to get by; however, the girls were impatient and insisted on using their phone 's translator app. This slowed communication even more, as the club noise interfered with the microphone. And it especially had trouble translating "Demonic" when I said I was waiting for her.
My regular messaged me that I could arrive early, so I drained my glass and left without waiting for my friend to arrive.
Went down to MI Ave yesterday mid-afternoon, I figured it could be a good mongering day as a ton of dudes would stay home for the Lions game. Started at Bogie's, got there right before kickoff at 4:25. Very few other dudes there, maybe 5 tops, but the women were your typical very overweight land whales. Two different ones sat with me but I basically ignored them and told them I was waiting on friends, and would be there a while. They were both just so fat (easily over 200 lbs) that I had no interest.
I basically stayed the first quarter, hoping to see some better talent. Only one thin woman, I saw her emerge from the bathrooms and she was immediately taken in back, couldn't get a good look at her. When she came back down the stairs 10 minutes later I looked over, and she walked straight to me. She looked at least 50 why / o in the face so I was not interested. She asked to sit down, I said I had to get something from my car, and left. Didn't even bother getting the free pass to Henry's. Cost me $15 total - $5 to get in, one $8 beer with $2 tip. I didn't even touch the beer LOL.
Went around the corner to Henry's, parking lot like 1/3 filled. Walked in and it was pretty empty. I did my usual move of going to bathroom first so I could check out the club and noticed a thin, pretty blonde that stood out among the other fatties. They were just starting a roundup so I tipped her a $5 and asked her to come over. She had to do a stage set right after roundup, but joined me when it was done.
She came to sit with me after and it was the famous Nicole. She's pretty, but also up close a little hit. Especially her body. No tits to speak of and her midsection was weird looking. Whatever, she was down to have fun as she spent the entire 3 minutes we were at the bar together rubbing my cock. She offered FS for $200, I countered with $140 and she said OK.
In back we started with making out while standing, very sexy. I was grabbing her ass a lot and eventually started playing with her butthole which she really liked. She was stroking me over the pants, then undid my belt to drop my jeans and play with my cock as we made out. Told her I was ready for the blowie, she went to get a condom but I said I wanted it bare, no objection. Great standing BJ, I asked her to play with my balls & asshole, she immediately complied. After a couple of minutes of this I sat down so she could blow me on her knees, so hot. I put my legs up on the metal arm holder things on the side and asked her to toss my salad, she didn't want to do that but licked her fingers and massaged my asshole while deep throating me. Very hot.
Told her I was ready to fuck, she put the condom on then hopped on top of me. I spit on my hand and fingered her asshole while she rode me and we made out. After a few minutes I had her bend over so I could pound away from behind. Great ass that was awesome to look at, and I got my index finger entirely in her butthole. A couple of times she reacted like it was too much, but overall she was wet AF and kept telling me to fuck her harder. She started rubbing her clit as I fucked her & fingered her ass, and was bucking her hips wildly like she was cumming.
I was going to bust soon and told her I wanted to cum in her mouth, she got back in front of me, knelt down, took off the condom and started a great BJ. A minute later I started to bust in her mouth, she took the whole load at once like a champ. In fact she even kept sucking and rubbing my cock when I was done to "get it all out. " She disappeared for a moment to grab napkins for me (and probably spit out my cum IDK) and helped me clean up.
Gave her the $140 and she told me to come back anytime during days, she normally is M-F dayshift. All in all a great time with a pretty woman that was an enthusiastic fuck and great dick sucker. Will definitely visit her again.
CD,
Isn't it a great experience where we each can enjoy different things and different types at the club. It would be terrible if we all wanted the same girls.
I am happy to enjoy the young newbies and teach them what Marelobo likes. About the time there is nothing more that they can learn from me, they are indeed likely ready to move on to you.
My friend it appears we have a symbiotic relationship, and both us and the girls benefit from it.
MM.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;7065008]Awesome story, MM. Your wisdom once again abounds.
I think this is one of those "to each their own" things.
I have always been more into the MILF-ish types, mid 20's to late 30's with curves, even when I was younger. There's something about a mature, smart woman who understands sensuality and flirtiness that turns me on, plus the added option of using whatever she has beneath her shoulders to help make things happen. There's stuff you can do with D-cup women you can't do with A-cup ladies.
There are a lot of hot, young airheads. Not my type. In my experience, most women gain a certain confidence and sexiness with maturity. I'm not going to take a young, innocent 19-year-old and turn her into Mrs. Robinson in one night.
That's not to say there aren't some young women who have mastered sexiness, or older ladies who aren't either past their prime or just old and tired. But deal with enough dancers and, while you keep an eye open for exceptions, you identify certain traits that go together most of the time.
As for the creepiness factor, I'm not all the way there yet, but I'm to the point now where if I see a "wristband girl"* I know I'm going to have to talk to her and feel things out. If she seems a little too innocent for her own good, I'll probably pass. I pay to take classes, not be the teacher. Even the best rookies don't have the game experience the veterans do to know how to perform at the highest level.
It's also part of the reason I think these idiot guys out there looking for women who have remained a virgin or have been saving themselves for one man are off their rocker. Forget that. Give me a woman who knows what she's doing and has had practice. I wonder how many of those guys are surprised when they find out their lady has no clue what to do in bed and the only way out is through a divorce lawyer. At least if you get an experienced woman, you know what you're getting into and, if you're open-minded enough, you allow each other to get experience with whoever, however and are fine with it.
* - maybe or maybe not in Detroit, but many clubs will make girls under 21 wear a wristband to show they're not legal drinking age.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;7066231]CD,
Isn't it a great experience where we each can enjoy different things and different types at the club. It would be terrible if we all wanted the same girls.
I am happy to enjoy the young newbies and teach them what Marelobo likes. About the time there is nothing more that they can learn from me, they are indeed likely ready to move on to you.
My friend it appears we have a symbiotic relationship, and both us and the girls benefit from it.
MM.[/QUOTE]Fantastically valid and insightful. Yet another tip of the cap, as well as a commendation for passing on wisdom I can then benefit from second-hand (and other body parts).
I don't think I'd like a club that had only "my type. " First off, it'd be weird. But secondly, I think a variety of types provides contrast and makes you more satisfied when you find your type.
There was one time I went to a club in Chicago and, for whatever reason, the fake boobs were on parade that night. Don't get me wrong; I like fake boobs. But it was almost too much. Even some of the smaller-chested girls looked a little too squared off to be stock parts. Like I said, I like big'uns and generally don't care if they're real or fake. But I thought it was weird to see so much similarity that one night.
On the flip side, the best part of this hobby is variety and occasionally finding exceptions. Yes, my main type is busty MILFs. That said, I have side preferences. Flexibility is one. A girl that can do the splits on stage, forward or sideways, automatically gets my attention. You can't fake that skill. Another night, same Chicago club, a young, petite blonde dancer was doing some stupid crazy flexibility tricks on the pole & stage. I couldn't help myself. Turns out she was an active college gymnast up for the weekend from Florida to make some money. In the lapper room, she was more than able to get into a good spot for a great grind (best you can get in most of Chicago). My type? No. But a worthy exception.
To each their own.
I will say since I decided this year was going to be a mongering year (my mid life crisis) I've experimented with a bunch of different types that I normally wouldn't be attracted to. I generally like petite, natural smaller girls or atheltic, toned girls but I've had fun with girls with fake everything. When I first started I basically would sit for an hour or so and if I didn't see someone that was my type I'd just take the first person that came up to me to VIP. Definitely been interesting! I found the older girls were definitely more enthusiastic and treated it like it was their mission to make sure you had fun, meanwhile there's been a couple of your traditional knockout hot girls that pretty much just mailed it in.
Now I've pretty much settled on two regular girls, the one I mentioned earlier who's strangely into me and another girl who's more my traditional type but she's been a lot of fun to talk to as well. Though I think I pissed her off the last two trips, I was leaving LS right as she was coming in so it kinda looked like I ditched her.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7066484]I will say since I decided this year was going to be a mongering year (my mid life crisis) I've experimented with a bunch of different types that I normally wouldn't be attracted to. I generally like petite, natural smaller girls or atheltic, toned girls but I've had fun with girls with fake everything. When I first started I basically would sit for an hour or so and if I didn't see someone that was my type I'd just take the first person that came up to me to VIP. Definitely been interesting! I found the older girls were definitely more enthusiastic and treated it like it was their mission to make sure you had fun, meanwhile there's been a couple of your traditional knockout hot girls that pretty much just mailed it in.
Now I've pretty much settled on two regular girls, the one I mentioned earlier who's strangely into me and another girl who's more my traditional type but she's been a lot of fun to talk to as well. Though I think I pissed her off the last two trips, I was leaving LS right as she was coming in so it kinda looked like I ditched her.[/QUOTE]D99,
I like fit athletic girls, but I don't need her to be short or small. Thin, yes, but she can be a big tall girl and I am just as happy.
As for your regular I doubt she pissed off, it is really hard to get regulars and girls try to keep them. I bet she will be happy to see you next time you are in club and even happier to lighten your wallet.
MM.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;7066484]I will say since I decided this year was going to be a mongering year (my mid life crisis) I've experimented with a bunch of different types that I normally wouldn't be attracted to. I generally like petite, natural smaller girls or atheltic, toned girls but I've had fun with girls with fake everything. When I first started I basically would sit for an hour or so and if I didn't see someone that was my type I'd just take the first person that came up to me to VIP. Definitely been interesting! I found the older girls were definitely more enthusiastic and treated it like it was their mission to make sure you had fun, meanwhile there's been a couple of your traditional knockout hot girls that pretty much just mailed it in.
Now I've pretty much settled on two regular girls, the one I mentioned earlier who's strangely into me and another girl who's more my traditional type but she's been a lot of fun to talk to as well. Though I think I pissed her off the last two trips, I was leaving LS right as she was coming in so it kinda looked like I ditched her.[/QUOTE]Older dayshift strippers are the hardest workin' ladies in the business.