"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Gyxser70;4810966]You summed it up well; pretty much everything I had already thought. I will pm- thanks.[/QUOTE]I was texting this chick from 2 am to 4:30 am just for her to say she wanted 500 for a meet up only. I told her only experience I had was with chick looking for sex and some spending cash. She say she new to everything so I cut her some bail. I see a lot new chick shooting for the fence for some type of movie sugar daddy experience that doesn't exist. They offering to spoil you just by their existence.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b2131038-1c7c-4bd2-b0c4-43f4b558d721[/URL]

I recently moved from SoCal, and I'd say that the SB market here is pretty weak. Richmond and Charlottesville look slightly better for college coeds, but it's nothing like SoCal is. There are still a few gems here, but there are way more middle aged escorts, druggies, picture sellers / scams to filter through. Pretty easy to spot, but still annoying.

I like searching for girls I'm talking to on this forum to make sure they haven't been passed around.

If you're single and have a nice place you'll have an advantage with the coeds who are here. I have the most success with the girls who live with roommates or in the dorms. They have the freedom to come and go as they please and like having a place to escape to. Lots of these guys are married and need girls who host, or who are fine meeting at a cheap motel. Which I'd think only the most desperate of women would be will to do.

When I do start talking to a SB I'm interested in I talk to them exactly as I do with girls I match with on bumble. We know we are matching on SA, there is no reason to talk about it. The more talking and meeting you can do with out talking about money the better. Sometimes they won't even ask for money. Just being with a "successful older man" who treats them well is enough for them. Many of the other college coeds actually have parents who are fully supporting them, and they are happy just getting some party money their parents can't track.

You're probably on the young side for the girls who get off on older men. I'm 40 and I've been told I'm on the young side by 18 year olds. But if you've you got a nice apt / car or seem like a bit of a baller you'll do well. As long as you have a bit of style and aren't grossly unhealthy girls won't really care about looks. Some girls are looking for status as much as anything else.

[QUOTE=Gyxser70;4809795]I've been reading some of the forums here and there about SB's when I have free time. I've never given it serious thought until recent about actually joining SA and making a go of it.

The Richmond forum here seems to be the meca of the SB / SA talk on this site. I figured many of you guys reading this have lots of experience dabbling in the SB world.

Ideally, I'd like to find a SB who's College aged, well spoken and just a regular person with a life, goals, etc.

There's no concrete answer to this I know but when you have an ongoing arrangement with a SB do you find it's usually strictly business or does your SB like you in general and you talk to them from time to time without it being about setting up a time and place to meet?

The main reason I've considered joining is because with some sugar involved it speeds things up and is better than seeing a provider with all of the unknowns that come with it.

Some and I assume most are in their 40's, 50's & 60's but seem to have had some really great experiences. I'm not married; late 20's.

Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=S2568;4804616]Found real hot one looks better than pics really gets into it even though she is older and pricey than what I prefer but I think she is worth it perfect size petite with huge awesome tits on a MILF and all doors open enjoyed every minute of it can't wait to see her again.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/91d1e1c1-1f8e-420c-a4bc-c43fcb71ff79[/URL][/QUOTE]Could not reach her profile from that link. User name?

The key with some girls is your appearance of prosperity.

I have heard this often from girls who have been poor and dated poor guys, they are tired of the guys buying them dinner at mcdonalds.

You however must save your money and invest it, but have the illusion of money available to spend.

Live with your parents or in a dump? "I'm saving money for the down payment on a place. ".

Fake wealth as she fakes affection and loyalty to you.

Minority girls seem to be more interested in you maybe, I noticed this in South Florida.

At your age use game as a substitute for cash.

Have fun, and when a girl brags about her looks to you "from behind you all look similar. ".

Nana1677. Her profile is active. You must have been blocked.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4811439]Could not reach her profile from that link. User name?[/QUOTE]

Anyone got a scouting report on this one? Did a search but couldn't find anything. Please pm if you have any info. Thanks!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/00d573c7-a29f-4228-956e-816134d311d5[/URL]

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4811439]Could not reach her profile from that link. User name?[/QUOTE]Her profile name is Nana1677.

[QUOTE=Ricrun;4811118]I was texting this chick from 2 am to 4:30 am just for her to say she wanted 500 for a meet up only. I told her only experience I had was with chick looking for sex and some spending cash. She say she new to everything so I cut her some bail. I see a lot new chick shooting for the fence for some type of movie sugar daddy experience that doesn't exist. They offering to spoil you just by their existence.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b2131038-1c7c-4bd2-b0c4-43f4b558d721[/URL][/QUOTE]There are YT and other places where girls brag about the excessive amounts they get as a SB. ( There are only a VERY few guys paying HUGE amounts.)

Shoot even a Real Life episode shows the SB / SD lifestyle with one girl getting thousands for nothing more than hanging out- No physical activity. Then there is SA's sister site What's Your Price that feeds girls over to SA. WYP is explicit that it is a platonic date only and encourages girls to be GPS. I guess many dudes are duped by that site and it works? So WYP graduates might think they can get a fee for a free dinner and then decide if they want to play OR negotiate an extra fee at that point?

Old saying around here: no sugar until the panties hit the floor. So when one is unrealistic about wanting 500 for a M&G it is time to walk away. Let her get an education from someone else, I'd never spend 2 hours trying to convince a girl. If she is hesitant and you "convince" her, there is more than a fair chance she will change her mind and ghost the date or get cold feet before things get serious. Nothing worse than Coitus interruptus.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4811552]Nana1677. Her profile is active. You must have been blocked.[/QUOTE]Turns out its a bug with my browser. Every single profile link I clicked on told me profile could not be found.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4804910]Yes she is LOL. The lamest attempt at a scam I have ever encountered. She just wanted me to pay her $9 Netflix bill and I could have my way with her. Even went so far as to set a date and time and gave me an address. I said great just send me a short vid of you saying my name and I'll send it over. Crickets.[/QUOTE]Now is listed in D. C.

With covid seeming to be "going away" or forgot about altogether, I feel that now is the time to go heavy on reporting the scammers which are the girls who "claim" they are not willing to meet in person and expect online only.

I think Seeking was being lenient during the pandemic but now that things are opening up, they will not take that approach. Just my opinion and observation.

SA just published a blog post on their site a couple weeks ago talking all about the realities of the aftermath of the COVID issue, and throughout it talked specifically about video dating and such. I wouldn't hold your breath on expecting them to spring right back to weeding out the online only crowd anytime soon. Ultimately, what do they care if it's still generating them revenue.

[QUOTE=Just757;4815482]With covid seeming to be "going away" or forgot about altogether, I feel that now is the time to go heavy on reporting the scammers which are the girls who "claim" they are not willing to meet in person and expect online only.

I think Seeking was being lenient during the pandemic but now that things are opening up, they will not take that approach. Just my opinion and observation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Just757;4815482]With covid seeming to be "going away" or forgot about altogether, I feel that now is the time to go heavy on reporting the scammers which are the girls who "claim" they are not willing to meet in person and expect online only.

I think Seeking was being lenient during the pandemic but now that things are opening up, they will not take that approach. Just my opinion and observation.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I believe that online only is here to stay.

Anyone else getting this on their phone app? Did I miss an update or what is going on with this? Why would SA limit this to only being able to see it through the computer?

She wants 450 ppm and will not budge on her price. No kissing, no oral, no anal and everything covered. No thank you.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/00d573c7-a29f-4228-956e-816134d311d5[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4817097]She wants 450 ppm and will not budge on her price. No kissing, no oral, no anal and everything covered. No thank you.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/00d573c7-a29f-4228-956e-816134d311d5[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning! She's attractive and has a nice, tight body, but her expectations are ridiculous to the point of being obscene.

As long as she doesn't find a sucker out there, she'll change her tune soon enough. Otherwise (in my best Soup Nazi voice): No sugar for you!

I think that's a new area in the app. I don't remember seeing anything regarding the text area of their profiles in previous versions. Now, you can't read the text, but they tell you to go to the computer if you want to read it.

[QUOTE=JaJunk;4816237]Anyone else getting this on their phone app? Did I miss an update or what is going on with this? Why would SA limit this to only being able to see it through the computer?[/QUOTE]

I was wondering about privacy concerns if a untrustworthy person records the video on their end for blackmail purposes.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4819412]I was wondering about privacy concerns if a untrustworthy person records the video on their end for blackmail purposes.[/QUOTE]It'll happen. Don't use it, it's that simple.

I see a number of profiles that appear in my search results. Including name and profile picture. But when I click on them, I get the "Profile Not Available" message. I can find profiles like this that are still on the site going back for years. Does anyone have any idea what causes this?

Thanks!

BAM.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4815708]SA just published a blog post on their site a couple weeks ago talking all about the realities of the aftermath of the COVID issue, and throughout it talked specifically about video dating and such. I wouldn't hold your breath on expecting them to spring right back to weeding out the online only crowd anytime soon. Ultimately, what do they care if it's still generating them revenue.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be too hurried to report girls. Believe it or not, I think that this could lead to your profile eventually getting booted. I have heard some complain about that here. You're just making more work for them, after all. They're balancing the $ they can make vs. Their risk. Now, if a girl were a flat-out hooker, or underage, that's another thing. Those are the sorts of girls who can draw the attention of LE, and they really want to avoid that. At times I have taken a 'live and let live' attitude to these non-SBs on the site. I'd definitely lean toward more reporting of bad actors than not, but still, there's no reason to screw yourself over just b / c you're trying to police someone else's site. It is such a pain to get banned, you really have to redo your whole sugar life. I posted about this recently in the Los Angeles sugar thread.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4817574]I think that's a new area in the app. I don't remember seeing anything regarding the text area of their profiles in previous versions. Now, you can't read the text, but they tell you to go to the computer if you want to read it.[/QUOTE]I used to be able to see the text for what they were looking for and their interests. I looked at the comments in Google Play and W8 Tech Limited is saying it's because "due to their updated privacy policy, Google removed certain content from being populated in our app. " That sounds like bullshit to me, as I don't think that's how it works. Anyway, then they should offer the APK for direct download.

[QUOTE=ErkTheOne;4815708]SA just published a blog post on their site a couple weeks ago talking all about the realities of the aftermath of the COVID issue, and throughout it talked specifically about video dating and such. I wouldn't hold your breath on expecting them to spring right back to weeding out the online only crowd anytime soon. Ultimately, what do they care if it's still generating them revenue.[/QUOTE]So I'm trying to ease back into meeting girls off Seeking, it's been awhile. Almost every girl I message replies she's online only. The worst thing is they often lead you along for a while without telling you they are online only. I have even told several I would be open to platonic meetings but I insist on meeting to see what they would say. They almost all say they are open to meet eventually but I have to send them money and have an online arrangement for some time to begin with. There are so many girls on there doing this, and not giving up and logging on daily for weeks, that some guys must really be sending them money without meeting. This is amazing to me. Another question is why don't they put in their ad that they are online only so I don't waste my time messaging back and forth with them until I learn the truth. My membership actually expires this week and I have went the entire month without finding anyone to meet. That site is becoming a waste of time and money.

So I was wondering about getting back on SA. However, are any babies going out to meet and greets because of covid? I would love to hear what you guys are experiencing. Should I wait until covid is over.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4822257]So I was wondering about getting back on SA. However, are any babies going out to meet and greets because of covid? I would love to hear what you guys are experiencing. Should I wait until covid is over.[/QUOTE]I rejoined a few days ago since being out since January. I saw an old friend back on Seeking so I figured I could get back with her. But no as she was in the pic selling mode like everyone else I contacted.

Every day new young cuties pop up but same thing or they ignore me because my bio says ready to meet in person. I should have waited longer. Especially as a lot those college gals were out protesting and catching Covid probably.

This one has posted her location as West Va, Colorado and Va since Saturday. Talks a good talk and says she wants to meet someone a long way off to be discreet. Of course wants gas money first and went dark when I said I could come to her instead. I reported her to Seeking but still on there.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6fff23e1-5192-4b7f-a019-57b689b07dc0[/URL]

Chatted with her and feels that she's a Pro who is trying out SA. Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL]

A pretty good fuck, nurse is day job

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4824652]Chatted with her and feels that she's a Pro who is trying out SA. Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL][/QUOTE].

So I have this burner phone I've only used for the bowl and I've had it for a few years. You chat a girl up on SA, ask for number, then start texting her. The usual. Only been used to chat girls up. I installed Snapchat and of course it goes through all your convos and contacts and maps them to known snapchat users. The interesting part is I get a whole bunch of dudes showing up on the list. Basically anytime a 'girl' asked for gas money, or babysitter money, or anything upfront and I would instantly delete the convo, it would still be inside my phone for snap to find much later. So basically, every single one of these dudes was someone on SA posing as a girl trying to scam SD's with up front payment. To be clear, it's not one or two guys, it's a few dozens.

No matter what the pics are, you never know who you're talking to until you meet them.

Scheduling my first M&G with a SB in RVA. What is typical range of allowance in this region? I have gone through the FAQ but it was a few years old and wondering what is the current market situation.

[QUOTE=AST233;4825192]Scheduling my first M&G with a SB in RVA. What is typical range of allowance in this region? I have gone through the FAQ but it was a few years old and wondering what is the current market situation.[/QUOTE]100 - 500.

[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4824652]Chatted with her and feels that she's a Pro who is trying out SA. Anyone seen her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/258717c6-04ea-4827-8603-690db2fecb9d[/URL][/QUOTE]She definitely acts like a pro. She's been well reviewed before when she used a different name on SA. Good price and she's DTF but will constant text you trying to get you to help her out with another $20 here, $30 there for some immediate need she has. She's got no problem inviting you over to fuck while her little girl is watching TV in the next room.

I have a SB lined up to go straight to the FC tomorrow and she is suggesting her house. I initially thought that was great but now the big head is kicking in and thinking about opsec. I haven't pushed too hard, but she's already indicated she's a little leery of meeting at a neutral site. She hasn't been reviewed on here from what I can tell and is exactly what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=BStreet;4824978]A pretty good fuck, nurse is day job

.[/QUOTE]For the info.

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4825484]She definitely acts like a pro. She's been well reviewed before when she used a different name on SA. Good price and she's DTF but will constant text you trying to get you to help her out with another $20 here, $30 there for some immediate need she has. She's got no problem inviting you over to fuck while her little girl is watching TV in the next room.[/QUOTE]For the feedback.

Do a tour of the house as soon as you get there, check the bathroom, closets and under the beds for nasty surprises. If she asks why, it's the first time you've met and you need to ensure your own safety. Never give money hand to hand. Put it in an envelope and leave it on the dresser. Don't be afraid to walk if it doesn't feel right or she starts saying things and asking you to agree, like "you said 200 for straight sex, right. " Be smart.

[QUOTE=Usg1234;4825540]I have a SB lined up to go straight to the FC tomorrow and she is suggesting her house. I initially thought that was great but now the big head is kicking in and thinking about opsec. I haven't pushed too hard, but she's already indicated she's a little leery of meeting at a neutral site. She hasn't been reviewed on here from what I can tell and is exactly what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Maybe somebody has seen her before and can give you a better idea about her

[QUOTE=Usg1234;4825540]I have a SB lined up to go straight to the FC tomorrow and she is suggesting her house. I initially thought that was great but now the big head is kicking in and thinking about opsec. I haven't pushed too hard, but she's already indicated she's a little leery of meeting at a neutral site. She hasn't been reviewed on here from what I can tell and is exactly what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Usg1234;4825540]I have a SB lined up to go straight to the FC tomorrow and she is suggesting her house. I initially thought that was great but now the big head is kicking in and thinking about opsec. I haven't pushed too hard, but she's already indicated she's a little leery of meeting at a neutral site. She hasn't been reviewed on here from what I can tell and is exactly what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]I refer to her background and occupation.

1. Hood rat with McJob, proceed with caution.

2. University student from overseas, maybe safer.

You get the idea. Whoever is more likely to have a dangerous friend or other problems might require caution.

EBob1111 - to clean your inbox. :-)

[QUOTE=EBob1111;4825484]She definitely acts like a pro. She's been well reviewed before when she used a different name on SA. Good price and she's DTF but will constant text you trying to get you to help her out with another $20 here, $30 there for some immediate need she has. She's got no problem inviting you over to fuck while her little girl is watching TV in the next room.[/QUOTE]She is definitely a good fuck will take a pounding in all holes for a reasonable price the couple times I fucked her I had a good time but be careful she will nickel and dime you to death and then catch a attitude when you won't help her when she is texting for money. It's worth it if you can handle that BS. Has a safe incall but it's up the road a little she started ghosting me because I got tired of the 20 here 30 there shit for food and phone bills and then wouldn't see me and when I fronted her money the last time she still wanted her usual rate I offered less because I deducted what I already gave her and she blew hot said she won't fucking for that she tends to forget what you give her. If you want one and done way worth it but if you don't want a leech stay away. I got plenty pics you need some LOL. Her SA makes her look better than she is but still not ugly by any means hope that helps.