Non Pro's

[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;6419232]She is also on a cuddle site and I saw her years ago as a cuddler. I tried for extras but never had success back then. The big mole / skintag on her chest always bugged me.

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddler/sunshineshan/[/URL][/QUOTE]She has been on and off SA for years.

Her original SA username was also sunshineshan.

I fucked the hell out of her when she first join SA, she was in great shape, could host, had a great attitude and a reasonable arrangement, but then she got into cuddling and met a few guys that shower her with money so she became too demanding, apparently a guy made her an offer she could not resist and demanded monogamy and she cut me off.

When later she came back to SA, I contacted her and she said I did not offer enough. She demanded a bit of a crazy monthly arrangement.

It was great while it lasted

[QUOTE=DelToro;6419866]She has been on and off SA for years.

Her original SA username was also sunshineshan.

I fucked the hell out of her when she first join SA, she was in great shape, could host, had a great attitude and a reasonable arrangement, but then she got into cuddling and met a few guys that shower her with money so she became too demanding, apparently a guy made her an offer she could not resist and demanded monogamy and she cut me off.

When later she came back to SA, I contacted her and she said I did not offer enough. She demanded a bit of a crazy monthly arrangement.

It was great while it lasted[/QUOTE]It's crazy. Once they find one sucker to give them money, instead of realizing they basically won the lottery, they think that its normal. It's like the one morning I left my house in West Seattle and drove to Microsoft and got there in about 25 minutes. After that, I expected to always get from home to Microsoft in about 25 minutes. It never came close to happening again.

There is one potential SB that I've been interested in for about 2 years now. We meet up regularly, but she always wants too much and I get "lousy fuck" vibe from her constantly. Last time I saw her she gained about 40-50 lbs but had a SD that was buying her cars, taking her on trips, etc. ,. We spoke last week and she told me her SD was arrested and convicted for stealing investment funds and was using those funds to buy her stuff. She had to testify in court about her relationship with him. After he was put in prison, the people he stole money from went after her for everything he bought her with the stolen money. She gave it back because she didn't want to spend months / years in court fighting for it. So, what do you think her opening bid to me for being her SD? Well, I need to buy her a car and take her on trips regularly as well as provide a monthly allowance. So, I guess I'll hear from her in about 6 months again and we'll have the same worthless conversation.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;6420149]It's crazy. Once they find one sucker to give them money, instead of realizing they basically won the lottery, they think that its normal. It's like the one morning I left my house in West Seattle and drove to Microsoft and got there in about 25 minutes. After that, I expected to always get from home to Microsoft in about 25 minutes. It never came close to happening again.

There is one potential SB that I've been interested in for about 2 years now. We meet up regularly, but she always wants too much and I get "lousy fuck" vibe from her constantly. Last time I saw her she gained about 40-50 lbs but had a SD that was buying her cars, taking her on trips, etc. ,. We spoke last week and she told me her SD was arrested and convicted for stealing investment funds and was using those funds to buy her stuff. She had to testify in court about her relationship with him. After he was put in prison, the people he stole money from went after her for everything he bought her with the stolen money. She gave it back because she didn't want to spend months / years in court fighting for it. So, what do you think her opening bid to me for being her SD? Well, I need to buy her a car and take her on trips regularly as well as provide a monthly allowance. So, I guess I'll hear from her in about 6 months again and we'll have the same worthless conversation.[/QUOTE]100% this. I had an offer in with a potential sugar baby and she upped the amount by $500 per month over what I offered I said Okay but she never found the time so I ended up getting back on the site and found my unicorn sugar baby situation for less money in a monthly allowance than I initially offered the potential one.

It's crazy how one guy will change their view of reality.

[QUOTE=MaCross19;6420376]100% this. I had an offer in with a potential sugar baby and she upped the amount by $500 per month over what I offered I said Okay but she never found the time so I ended up getting back on the site and found my unicorn sugar baby situation for less money in a monthly allowance than I initially offered the potential one.

It's crazy how one guy will change their view of reality.[/QUOTE]And the problem is that many of the guys making crazy promises are new. Eager to get laid, but quickly realize that what they offered is not sustainable, but by then it is too late.

Too bad they do not get to do some research before jumping in. It is a good advice for whenever you join a new group or activity, observe before participating, but well

[QUOTE=Wilier10;6419034]Fetlife is a good place to get ladies desperate for sexual attention, I have been lucky with several hot dates, the only problem with fetlife in my opinion are mainly two.

1- You don't really know if that lady is cheating on her husband and.

2- You won't always find the woman you like willing to fuck with you, so you should fuck what makes it easier for you.

But at least it's free.[/QUOTE]I've been in this situation before. In fact I never understood why men would say the don't pay for sex they pay them to go away, until I found myself in the situation. Just be careful with mixing your two lives. The crazy ones are out there and they definitely don't like letting go when they think they have a good thing going.

[QUOTE=Madmaxon;6421464]I've been in this situation before. In fact I never understood why men would say the don't pay for sex they pay them to go away, until I found myself in the situation. Just be careful with mixing your two lives. The crazy ones are out there and they definitely don't like letting go when they think they have a good thing going.[/QUOTE]This definitely hits home. I hooked up with this girl a few months ago and I was really nice to her. But I wasn't all that into her and I told her this many times. She seemed ok with it, simply texting me every couple weeks to say hi and what not, then all the sudden she got really angry at me for "leading her on" and what not. She messaged every friend, family member, or loose acquaintance she could find to tell them about how I'm a sexual predator or whatever.

What shocked me most is how many women responded to her and actually told her personal information about us. I mean, this woman who they did not know just messaged them out of nowhere and many of them were willing to have discussions with her until they realized she was just obsessed.

Anyway, I'm single and divorced, but all of this just reinforces why paying is such a better deal.

Anyone have intel on this one? Bit of a pro vibe in her messages.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b55901eb-d013-49c9-8eec-f7f3b68d1d52[/URL]

[QUOTE=DelToro;6415581]I reached out and she never replied.

My profile is a bit graphic and I make sure to mention that I expect several hours so, some of the good references from here do not reply to me, or maybe I am not their type.[/QUOTE]Me too, same, no response. My profile says I want feminine women (surprised how many are offended by that request LOL) and I can't STAND " boss babes. " Yuk!! Anyway, I get less action for sure but the ones I get are soft spoken, submissive and a EASY to be around. 90% of women don't get it! Feminism and simps have destroyed even the SB thing.

They want it all and most offer lack luster experiences TBH.

She's cute, but I don't take shit anymore from women (I have but no more). I'm taking my space as a man back!

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Madmaxon;6421464]I've been in this situation before. In fact I never understood why men would say the don't pay for sex they pay them to go away, until I found myself in the situation. Just be careful with mixing your two lives. The crazy ones are out there and they definitely don't like letting go when they think they have a good thing going.[/QUOTE]I go to my hometown often. I had a couple of SBs there. One did not want to have an allowance anymore, she is not super hot but decent, great sex, but likes a lot of PDA and demands interaction outside the bedroom, likes to remind me that she is ready to be serious if I want to and fucking texts all the time, every day, even when I am in Seattle.

Now I go home and I don't tell her and spend time with the other SBs that do want an allowance because I can't take the clinginess of the "free" one.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;6423804]Anyone have intel on this one? Bit of a pro vibe in her messages.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b55901eb-d013-49c9-8eec-f7f3b68d1d52[/URL][/QUOTE]She's asking for $500 I stopped there not my type for that rate, more like $300 to $400 but I didn't bother trying to talk her down. Never met her only messaged me and yeah she did state she has experience in this so semi pro.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;6421607]This definitely hits home. I hooked up with this girl a few months ago and I was really nice to her. But I wasn't all that into her and I told her this many times. She seemed ok with it, simply texting me every couple weeks to say hi and what not, then all the sudden she got really angry at me for "leading her on" and what not. She messaged every friend, family member, or loose acquaintance she could find to tell them about how I'm a sexual predator or whatever.

What shocked me most is how many women responded to her and actually told her personal information about us. I mean, this woman who they did not know just messaged them out of nowhere and many of them were willing to have discussions with her until they realized she was just obsessed.

Anyway, I'm single and divorced, but all of this just reinforces why paying is such a better deal.[/QUOTE]Yup looks like you hooked a psycho. You must have felt pretty close to her to have given her a lot about yourself if she contacted friends, family etc. Sorry to hear that. I make it a point to keep this life completely separate from my personal life and am at the stage where I can confidently block a lady on my hobby phone and be almost guaranteed that she will not be able to connect with me or my life anymore. Most do not even know what car (make / model) I own, let alone names of people in my personal life. Sorry this happened to you bro. Really sucks that many women actually responded to this idiot. Sad.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;6424554]Yup looks like you hooked a psycho. You must have felt pretty close to her to have given her a lot about yourself if she contacted friends, family etc. Sorry to hear that. I make it a point to keep this life completely separate from my personal life and am at the stage where I can confidently block a lady on my hobby phone and be almost guaranteed that she will not be able to connect with me or my life anymore. Most do not even know what car (make / model) I own, let alone names of people in my personal life. Sorry this happened to you bro. Really sucks that many women actually responded to this idiot. Sad.[/QUOTE]Yeah she had my address which was enough to track down my parents and siblings. Then she found my Facebook and despite not having a profile picture or anything shared, she was able to search Facebook for any public posts that I liked or commented on. If the person who made the original post was female, she wrote to them. She made a little JPG collage of all the people she contacted and sent it to me telling me that I shouldn't have toyed with a "smart girl".

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/77826831-790f-4821-856a-bd1522ab33b1[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd82b005-f39d-4917-b084-52869b94e4a3[/URL]

Twins 👀LOL damn, these girls must be related or something haha.

[QUOTE=KnoxNenters;6413372]WYP (WhatsYourPrice) is a scammer's haven. It's easy. You find some pics of a hot girl, create a bare profile, wait for the suckers to pay for offers to communicate with you (100 credits cost $50, and a $100 offer costs 20 credits to unlock, so it's expensive if you're playing a numbers game)...The refund process takes a few days. You have 90 days to report them. Of the 10 I submitted, the refunds are starting to trickle back in. I expect I'll have about 200 credits returned to me once they're all processed. If you've had bad experiences there, stick it right back to them.[/QUOTE]UPDATE: I've had 230 credits refunded since I posted this. For those of you convinced WYP is a waste of time, I can't necessarily disagree, but I have had several successes there in the past two months. All of them are essentially looking for arrangements, and many will do PPMs. It's not that different from Seeking. If your main objection is spending money on credits only to have them wasted by scammers, be encouraged that the process I outlined for getting them refunded works. And it's really easy to spot the scammers. Same bullshit. Empty profiles, but the obvious one is their income. They like to claim they make $300,000 to $1 m. Oh, wow. Please enlighten me as to how that crypto can make me rich, pig butcher!

It would be nice to hear about other platforms y'all are having success with. I know SA / Seeking is the first mover, and that Secret Benefits is a complete scam ripoff (you can only buy credits with bitcoin? and the staff actively create fake profiles?) Where else are we finding the non-pros around here?

[QUOTE=Bronco62;6390068][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5d830e2-8c36-42e6-be2d-8756effb3d98[/URL]

Been chatting with this one and she seems legit, been on the site for awhile. Anyone have any experience with her?[/QUOTE]She didn't ghost me, rather she blocked me for asking for verification before a meet up (video chat, picture of her holding a paper with my name). As much as I wanted to see her, something just wasn't right. Most girls wouldn't oppose a video chat verification, right?